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A
COVNTER-POYSON
,
written
for
the
time
,
to
make
reproches
,
wherewith
the
aunswerer
to
the
would
disgrace
the
holy
¶ I tell you , if those should holde their peace , the stones woulde crye .
Walde-graue
.
that
much
reading
is
wearinesse
vnto
the
flesh
;
The
Lord
rebuke
thee
Sathan
.
The
prince
of
Angels
Abstract
,
I
doe
therefore
say
and
offer
in
the
name
of
the
learned
,
to
him
or
other
to
consider
of
,
that
it
is
taken
by
vs
for
an
vndoubted
trueth
,
the
contrary
whereof
,
by
no
proofe
we
doe
assure
our selues
can
bee
shewed
,
that
there
are
not
set
downe
in
perticuler
by
Scripture
,
or
by
necessarie
collection
to
be
gathered
,
all
circumstaunces
of
pollicie
,
gouernement
,
Discipline
,
and
ceremonies
necessary
and
vniformally
to
bee
vsed
in
euery
seuerall
Church
:
and
that
the
Christian
Magistrates
and
gouernours
,
are
not
in
the
sayd
former
points
(
wherof
somthing
is
touched
in
Scripture
)
of
necessitie
tyed
to
that
precise
forme
that
is
there
set
downe
,
but
to
the
generall
Doctrine
concerning
them
,
to
wit
,
that
al
be
done
to
edifying
,
orderlye
,
comely
,
and
such
like
,
page
.
33.
Nay
;
they
neyther
are
,
can
be
,
nor
yet
neede
so
to
be
:
seeing
it
cannot
be
prooued
,
that
any
set
&
exact
perticuler
forme
thereof
,
is
recommended
to
vs
by
the
Worde
of
God
,
pag.
58.
pag.
60.
For
else
how
could
the
Primitiue
Church
without
any
prescript
word
,
(
I
doe
not
onely
say
,
haue
brought
in
a
newe
ceremonie
)
but
haue
altered
the
Sabboth
day
by
God
appoynted
at
the
first
,
and
being
our
Satterday
to
the
first
day
of
the
week
,
in
the
Scripture
twise
or
thrise
called
the
Lordes
day
,
and
with
vs
Sunday
:
or
yet
the
time
of
receiuing
the
Sacrament
of
the
Eucharist
,
being
according
to
the
institution
vsually
receiued
after
Supper
,
to
haue
it
receiued
as
it
is
in
the
morning
,
fasting
.
Test
.
Rem
.
CYPRIAN
.
IN
SERMONE
DE
BAPTIS
.
CHRIST
.
The
Christian
religion
shall
finde
that
out
of
this
Scripture
,
rules
of
all
doctrine
haue
spronge
,
and
that
from
hence
doth
spring
and
hither
doth
retourne
,
whatsoeuer
the
Ecclesiasticall
discipline
doth
contayne
.
DE
PRESCRIPT
.
ADVERS
.
HERET
.
We
may
not
giue
our selfe
the
liberty
to
bring
in
any
thing
that
other
men
bring
of
their
will
,
we
haue
the
Apostles
for
Authours
,
which
themselues
brought
nothing
of
their
owne
will
,
but
the
Discipline
which
they
receiued
of
Christ
,
they
deliuered
faythfully
to
the
people
.
EPISTOLA
LIB.
1.
EPIST.
8.
It
is
adulterouse
,
it
is
wicked
,
it
is
sacriligious
,
whatsoeuer
is
ordayned
by
humaine
fury
,
that
the
diuine
disposition
shoulde
be
violated
.
To
leaue
the
trueth
as
it
is
in
this
behalfe
,
or
else
to
make
all
newe
.
THEODORET
Ecclesiasticall
Discipline
,
I
doe
thinke
verily
that
in
no
Church
the
whole
number
of
the
people
are
permitted
to
haue
a
free
Election
of
their
Pastor
,
&c.
Also
her
Maiestie
,
being
the
head
member
of
this
church
,
whether
she
shall
be
alowed
a
voice
by
her
highnes
proctor
,
among
the
people
of
one
parish
alone
,
or
in
al
parishes
in
the
realm
,
in
chosing
their
minister
,
&
what
voice
?
whether
a
negatiue
,
countermanding
al
others
or
no
?
or
whether
her
highnes
shal
haue
no
suffrage
therein
at
all
?
Both
which
,
if
they
be
not
to
the
derogation
of
her
highnesse
prerogatiue
royall
,
let
indifferent
and
wise
men
iudge
.
I
will
only
put
this
great
canonist
in
minde
,
of
the
13.
chap.
of
the
counsell
of
Laodicea
,
which
doth
forbid
these
elections
by
the
multitude
or
people
,
which
,
as
Origin
sayth
,
is
pricked
forwarde
or
caried
away
,
with
clamors
,
fauour
or
rewarde
.
So
that
by
this
reckoning
,
men
women
and
children
(
for
all
the
faithfull
bee
interested
:
)
shall
haue
voyces
in
election
of
their
Ministers
;
If
any
dissent
,
all
must
be
dashed
if
we
followe
that
rule
.
For
his
flocke
is
but
an
handfull
in
comparison
of
hypocrites
,
and
many
are
called
but
few
are
chosen
:
neither
are
al
true
beleeuers
always
indowed
,
with
such
measure
of
wisedome
and
discretion
,
as
that
they
are
able
to
sounde
the
aptnesse
of
a
man
in
learning
for
the
ministery
:
nor
yet
haue
all
so
profited
in
true
mortification
,
as
that
they
can
weane
them-selues
from
those
disordered
affections
,
which
cleaue
fast
to
euery
one
of
vs
,
either
more
or
lesse
,
so
long
as
we
remaine
in
this
world
,
and
therefore
in
such
cases
the
mo
that
do
deal
in
any
action
,
the
more
disorderly
&
troublesome
for
the
most
part
it
falleth
out
to
be
.
To
the
seconde
I
say
,
it
contayneth
a
promise
of
such
quietnesse
and
peaceable
issues
of
this
populer
election
,
as
if
you
turne
ouer
ecclesiasticall
hystories
,
neuer
or
seldome
hath
happened
but
the
clean
contrary
.
Now
it
had
beene
very
requisite
that
our
Authour
,
for
the
appointing
of
these
democratical
elections
the
better
vnto
vs
,
should
with
proofe
out
of
scripture
for
euery
particuler
,
haue
shewed
whether
Women
or
children
of
some
reasonable
discretion
,
shoulde
haue
voyces
in
the
election
of
their
Minister
?
whether
he
should
be
chosen
by
all
,
by
the
greater
part
,
or
by
the
better
part
?
Whether
the
wiues
voyce
shoulde
bee
accounted
seuerall
,
or
but
one
with
her
husbande
,
or
whether
shee
mght
discent
from
her
husband
,
or
the
father
from
the
sonne
?
Whether
the
Patron
not
dwelling
in
the
Parish
shall
haue
a
voyce
,
or
dwelling
there
but
a
single
voyce
?
Whether
the
greater
number
of
voyces
shall
bee
accounted
in
respect
of
all
the
Electors
,
or
onely
in
respect
of
him
which
is
to
bee
chosen
,
hauing
more
voyces
then
anye
other
hathe
?
Whether
all
absent
,
shall
bee
accounted
to
discent
,
or
to
assent
?
Whether
sicke
men
or
other
necessarily
imployde
that
would
come
and
cannot
,
maye
sende
the
Proctor
beeing
no
Paryshioner
,
or
compromit
their
voyce
to
a
Parishioner
?
largely
about
the
places
of
Scripture
alleadged
to
this
purpose
.
He
sayth
:
that
course
of
election
mentioned
in
the
Actes
,
was
not
vndertaken
for
satisfying
anye
expresse
commaundement
by
Christ
,
but
vpon
an
especiall
occasion
of
the
mutiny
of
the
Greeks
against
the
Hebrewes
.
Againe
in
that
page
94.
that
of
the
Actes
,
speaketh
of
Deacons
onely
,
and
is
not
read
elsewhere
in
all
poynts
to
haue
been
obserued
,
either
in
chosing
of
an
Apostle
Act.
1.
of
Ministers
,
Acts.
2.
or
of
Bish.
Titus
.
1.
There
also
the
whole
multitude
made
choise
without
the
Apostles
,
who
ment
therby
to
auoid
al
suspicion
of
corrupt
dealing
.
Which
two
circumstaunces
,
no
man
will
I
hope
require
,
in
the
chosing
eyther
of
a
Bishop
or
a
Minister
:
especially
that
the
Bishop
and
other
of
the
Cleargie
shall
bee
debarred
from
any
stroke
in
that
action
,
seeing
therein
there
cannot
be
the
lyke
cause
of
suspicion
.
Also
the
Apostle
calleth
them
togeather
,
and
prescribed
vnto
them
what
they
shoulde
doe
in
that
poynt
of
externall
policie
,
and
that
according
to
the
present
occasion
offered
,
without
any
prescript
worde
,
but
onely
by
the
instinct
of
Gods
spirite
.
Further
,
that
the
Apostles
set
out
the
qualitie
of
the
men
to
be
chosen
,
but
tied
them
to
no
certayne
forme
of
election
to
be
obserued
,
neither
doe
we
reade
what
forme
of
election
they
then
vsed
.
Againe
,
that
the
Disciples
were
to
looke
out
and
chose
such
,
as
they
thought
fitte
to
be
trusted
with
the
Church-stocke
,
but
the
Apostles
reserued
to
them-selues
the
appoynting
of
them
to
their
office
,
if
they
should
be
founde
to
be
such
as
were
described
.
Moreouer
,
that
the
Deacons
were
appoynted
for
the
further
ease
of
the
Apostles
in
some
part
of
their
function
.
Lastly
,
that
the
disciples
presented
them
to
the
Apostles
censures
:
who
by
imposition
of
handes
did
as
it
were
consecrate
and
authorize
them
to
the
function
of
Deaconship
.
Now
if
by
this
act
our
authour
mind
so
hard
to
curbe
vp
al
churches
,
as
that
he
will
accuse
them
to
giue
a
counterbuff
to
the
holy
ghost
,
which
in
their
ordinations
doe
not
agree
herewith
in
all
circumstaunces
:
or
that
he
will
tell
vs
that
something
extraordinary
was
here
in
this
action
not
to
bee
followed
,
then
must
hee
shewe
by
direct
Scripture
what
was
ordinary
and
what
was
extraordinary
,
and
must
reconcile
other
places
of
Scripture
concerning
like
action
,
which
doe
not
agree
in
all
poyntes
with
this
.
In
the
first
of
the
Actes
,
two
were
presented
,
one
is
chosen
by
lot
and
no
imposition
of
handes
:
heere
seuen
are
chosen
,
the
manner
not
set
downe
by
the
multitude
,
and
being
presented
to
the
Apostles
,
they
all
appoynt
them
and
lay
their
handes
on
them
.
In
the
14.
of
Actes
,
Paule
and
Barnabas
are
sayde
Chirotonesasthai
autois
presbuterois
,
and
to
haue
fasted
,
but
no
mention
is
made
of
imposion
of
handes
:
heere
all
the
Apostles
did
appoynt
them
Hous
katastesomen
.
In
the
first
to
Titus
,
he
onely
is
willed
to
appoint
priestes
,
Hina
catasteses
presbuterous
,
according
as
Paule
prescribed
vnto
him
.
Nay
,
let
him
shewe
vnto
me
any
two
refourmed
Churches
of
diuers
nations
,
iumpe
in
all
circumstaunces
heereaboutes
,
or
anye
one
of
them
which
permitteth
this
action
,
(
without
intermedling
of
the
cheefe
Pastours
)
vnto
all
the
Disciples
or
multitude
of
beleeuers
in
the
sayde
Church
,
which
yet
haue
an
interest
in
hauing
a
good
Minister
,
but
as
I
take
it
,
the
cheefe
swaye
and
moderating
of
such
actions
,
are
in
all
other
refourmed
Churches
in
suche
men
,
to
whome
this
trust
is
especially
recommended
.
And
hath
not
likewise
(
for
auoyding
of
sundry
inconueniences
)
the
whole
Churche
and
Realme
of
Englande
by
Parliament
(
whereunto
euery
man
in
the
eye
of
the
law
is
saide
to
haue
consented
)
reposed
this
trust
in
a
fewe
chosen
men
of
ecclesiastical
function
?
Euen
M.
Beza
him selfe
,
concerning
the
place
of
the
Lib.
confes
.
cap.
5.
Actes
,
doth
say
,
There
is
no
cause
why
hereof
anye
man
shoulde
prescribe
anye
speciall
rule
,
but
if
the
conscience
be
vpright
,
it
will
be
easie
to
set
downe
what
is
expedient
,
according
to
the
circumstaunces
of
tyme
and
places
.
First
,
that
the
people
did
chose
without
the
Apostles
.
Secondly
,
they
were
to
choose
,
but
the
Apostles
reserued
to
themselues
the
appointing
of
them
to
their
office
,
if
they
shold
be
found
to
be
such
as
were
described
.
Thirdly
,
that
the
people
presented
them
to
the
Apostles
censures
.
And
here
it
seemeth
that
he
did
not
only
consecrate
them
whom
the
people
had
elected
before
,
but
him selfe
also
made
choyse
of
the
persons
,
no
mention
being
heere
made
of
any
other
election
populer
,
which
though
it
were
long
vsed
in
the
primitiue
Church
,
yet
for
diuers
causes
,
and
specially
for
continuall
tumults
,
partialities
,
and
disorders
which
Saint
Augustine
much
complaineth
of
in
his
time
,
was
iustly
taken
away
,
and
other
better
meanes
of
their
designement
appointed
.
See
concil
.
Laodic
.
cap.
12.
13.
That
the
Apostles
shewed
the
people
what
to
do
,
without
any
prescript
worde
,
but
onely
by
the
instinct
of
Gods
spirite
:
Which
Peter
did
,
not
vpon
commaundement
of
Christe
written
,
but
by
suggestion
of
God
his
spirit
,
and
by
vnderstanding
of
the
Scriptures
of
the
old
Testament
to
that
purpose
.
Origin
,
Non
populo
concedendum
electionem
facere
,
&c.
We
ought
not
to
giue
leaue
to
the
people
to
make
election
,
Carthage
,
Trullum
,
Laodicia
,
When
he
shal
be
examined
in
al
these
and
founde
fully
instructed
,
then
let
him
bee
ordayned
with
the
consent
(
Clericorum
&
laicorum
)
of
the
Clearks
&
lay
men
.
Origin
,
He
neuer
sawe
good
issue
,
but
that
thorough
merueilous
ambition
&
desire
of
contention
,
thinges
out
of
order
were
not
remedied
but
made
worse
.
Epist.
42.
ad
procopt
.
Least
the
matter
should
be
turned
into
a
brawle
,
and
haue
fallen
to
a
contention
.
Arrian
,
Theodoret
lib.
1.
Cap.
19.
Arrians
,
Zozo
.
lib.
7.
cap
,
7.
Theodo
.
lib.
2.
cap.
7.
Hierusalem
,
Presbyterous
;
Then
therefore
,
not
in
Churches
buylded
vp
,
must
all
thinges
be
committed
vnto
the
suffrages
of
the
multitude
,
neither
yet
are
the
Pastours
to
be
chosen
without
the
consent
of
the
whole
Church
:
But
all
thinges
are
so
to
be
moderated
of
the
Elders
and
Christian
Magistrates
,
that
neither
they
bring
in
tyrannie
into
the
Church
,
(
which
surely
should
be
done
,
if
they
shoulde
call
any
vnto
publike
function
of
their
owne
wil
,
neglecting
the
consent
of
the
multitude
,
neither
that
the
popular
state
of
the
Church
degenerate
into
popular
rule
.
Beza
,
Which
shall
put
you
in
remembrance
of
my
wayes
in
Christ
,
as
I
teach
euery
where
in
euery
Church
.
I
praise
you
brethren
,
that
you
remember
me
in
all
thinges
,
&
hold
fast
the
ordinances
as
I
deliuered
them
vnto
you
.
Which
you
haue
learned
&
receiued
,
&
heard
&
seene
in
me
,
those
things
do
,
&
the
God
of
peace
be
with
you
.
But
thou
hast
step
by
step
attained
vnto
(
or
fully
known
)
my
doctrine
,
&
course
,
purpose
,
faith
,
long-suffering
,
loue
,
patience
,
&c.
Appoint
Elders
as
I
haue
set
thee
an
order
.
These
thinges
haue
I
written
,
that
thou
maist
know
how
to
behaue
thy selfe
in
the
howse
of
God
.
Katapolin
,
Antiochia
,
Antiochia
,
Hierusalem
,
Hierusalem
,
Barnabas
:
The
Apostles
,
Elders
and
the
brethren
.
Archippus
:
Take
heede
to
thy
ministery
which
thou
hast
receiued
in
the
Lorde
,
that
thou
fulfill
it
.
Aaron
:
2.
Tom
,
concil
.
can
.
8.
Paris
.
Orleans
.
Canon
.
10.
11.
besides
this
according
as
the
old
Canons
haue
decreed
,
no
Bishop
maye
bee
giuen
vnto
the
people
againste
their
will
.
Ignatius
ad
Philadelp
.
It
is
meet
that
you
as
those
which
be
the
Church
of
God
,
should
choose
by
voyces
your
Bishops
.
it
is
to
bee
noted
,
that
the
Disciples
with
fasting
and
prayers
,
did
make
election
by
voyces
.
Cyprian
,
God
commaundeth
the
Priest
to
be
set
before
the
whole
Synagogue
,
that
is
,
doth
ordayne
and
shew
that
briestly
ordinations
ought
not
to
be
made
,
but
with
the
conscience
of
the
people
assisting
,
that
the
people
beeinge
present
,
eyther
the
crimes
of
the
euill
shoulde
be
detected
,
or
the
good
shoulde
be
published
,
and
that
shoulde
be
a
iust
and
lawefull
ordination
,
which
hath
beene
examined
by
the
suffrage
and
iudgement
of
all
men
,
which
afterwarde
according
to
diuine
institutions
,
is
obserued
in
the
Actes
of
the
Apostles
,
&c.
Epist.
Lib.
Cap.
4.
Gregor.
Naz.
in
apologet
.
Chrisost.
lib
,
And
as
it
seemeth
such
as
Paule
propoundeth
to
euery
Minister
,
as
a
perfect
idaea
which
is
requisite
in
him
:
which
is
,
that
he
bee
able
to
teache
sounde
doctrine
,
to
comfort
,
to
correct
,
to
instruct
,
to
conuince
any
errour
.
For
the
issue
ought
to
haue
beene
to
this
effect
,
whether
it
be
simplie
vnlawfull
,
that
one
shold
be
admitted
to
minister
the
Sacramentes
,
which
is
not
sufficiently
inabled
Orthotomein
,
that
is
,
to
deuide
the
Worde
of
God
aright
,
and
is
also
Rom.
15.
4.
1.
Tim.
3.
16.
1.
Tim.
3.
26.
Tit.
1.
9.
Didacticos
Kai
elegticos
,
able
to
teach
the
truth
and
conuince
errours
,
and
to
correct
sinne
,
&
to
instruct
to
vertue
and
good
life
,
and
to
comfort
the
weake
,
or
else
,
whether
it
be
expedient
that
all
the
parishes
in
Englande
,
either
not
able
to
susteine
such
a
learned
Minister
,
or
for
the
scarsitye
of
such
so
wel
qualified
,
not
able
to
procure
one
,
shoulde
be
destitute
of
publique
prayer
,
and
administration
of
Sacramentes
,
tyll
such
a
Preacher
be
procured
vnto
them
or
no
?
If
he
reply
that
the
Bishop
should
not
then
haue
made
him
Minister
,
I
reioyne
,
that
peraduenture
he
was
none
of
his
making
:
it
maye
be
also
,
that
he
was
fitte
for
the
cure
he
was
appoynted
vnto
,
though
not
so
fitte
for
some
other
populous
Congregation
,
or
troublesome
people
:
Lastly
,
that
if
none
should
be
assumed
to
the
ministry
,
but
with
those
especiall
indowmentes
,
surely
all
the
learned
of
all
professions
in
England
,
if
they
were
in
the
ministery
,
woulde
scarce
be
able
thus
to
supply
one
tenth
part
of
the
parishes
.
Neither
are
such
of
them
thogh
they
be
no
Preachers
,
to
bee
accounted
dumbe
and
silent
,
who
in
their
Churches
Orthotomia
,
Page
70.
It
hath
been
the
hope
of
al
the
godlye
minded
,
that
after
the
cleare
light
had
shined
so
gloriously
,
both
by
zealous
preaching
and
learned
writings
of
many
worthy
men
,
to
the
manifest
discouery
of
the
vnlawfulnesse
of
an
vnpreaching
Ministery
:
so
that
not
onely
most
of
sound
religion
,
but
also
euen
the
very
impugners
of
this
,
haue
after
a
sort
been
driuen
to
an
open
confession
of
the
same
:
that
no
man
indued
with
any
true
care
of
religion
,
or
minding
to
defend
a
cause
worthy
of
anye
account
,
would
once
haue
aduentured
,
eyther
colourably
or
plainly
,
directly
or
indirely
,
with
protestation
or
without
to
defend
,
or
any
way
vphold
such
a
base
ministery
.
But
seeing
it
is
the
righteous
iudgement
of
God
vpon
all
our
vnrigteousnesse
,
but
especially
vppon
their
sinne
,
who
haue
admitted
,
tollerated
,
and
defended
such
vnsauory
salt
,
that
instead
of
putting
them
to
their
right
vse
,
which
Math.
5.
our
sauiour
sayth
,
is
to
bee
cast
on
the
dung-hill
,
and
to
bee
troden
vnder
the
feet
of
men
,
they
do
not
only
not
remoue
the
stincking
snuffe
out
of
the
candlesticke
,
Idaea
,
It
is
not
in
vain
,
but
to
instruct
vs
that
mere
lay-men
,
are
not
inhabled
to
this
office
,
whether
declaring
of
the
Worde
in
the
mother
tongue
,
be
not
a
kinde
of
declaration
.
What
if
hee
made
him
not
?
or
that
the
Parish
were
little
or
poore
,
they
are
as
profitable
,
as
they
who
through
more
audacity
take
vpon
than
to
preach
,
&
come
iust
as
nere
the
text
as
Iarmans
lips
are
said
to
come
together
;
Wee
may
note
that
all
good
Byshops
and
Priestes
of
those
dayes
,
were
not
so
well
able
to
teach
as
some
others
,
and
yet
for
the
ministery
of
Sacramentes
,
and
for
Wisdome
and
Gouernment
,
were
not
vnmeete
to
be
Byshops
and
Pastours
.
Although
it
be
due
high
commendation
in
a
prelate
to
be
able
to
teach
,
as
the
Apostle
before
noteth
,
yet
al
can
not
haue
the
like
grace
therein
,
&
it
is
often
recompensed
by
other
singuler
giftes
no
lesse
necessary
.
some
times
and
countries
,
require
more
preaching
then
others
.
Idaea
,
Idaea
:
Idaea
,
Idaea
,
Cosmios
,
he
must
hold
fast
the
faithfull
word
,
which
is
according
to
doctrine
,
that
he
may
be
able
to
exhort
with
sound
doctrine
&
conuince
the
gainsayers
,
Idaea
,
Idaea
.
Abra
ham
Moses
,
That
they
might
teach
the
children
of
Israell
all
the
statutes
,
which
the
Lorde
had
commaunded
them
by
the
hande
of
Moses
.
which
heard
him
were
baptized
.
Do
this
:
Rom.
12.
6.
7.
Whether
so
many
Churches
as
cannot
obtaine
learned
Ministers
,
should
be
destitute
of
publique
Prayers
and
administration
of
Sacramentes
,
That
so
they
would
become
in
short
time
as
heathen
and
Painims
,
or
as
sauadge
as
the
wilde
Irish
.
Tolerate
certain
congregations
,
wher
they
haue
no
publike
sermons
but
prayers
with
certaine
exhortations
.
They
are
not
to
bee
counted
dumb
and
silent
,
who
in
their
Churches
doe
exhort
,
dehort
,
comfort
,
and
in
some
degree
instruct
their
Parishioners
.
Open
her
mouth
with
wisdome
,
and
haue
the
doctrine
of
grace
in
her
lippes
,
Scribe
,
who
shoulde
bee
prepared
for
the
Kingdome
of
God
,
and
bring
out
of
his
storehouse
thinges
bothe
newe
and
olde
,
that
hee
may
bee
a
Pastor
according
to
God
his
heart
to
feede
them
with
knowledge
and
vnderstanding
.
The
Byshoppes
haue
ordered
some
of
meane
ability
.
Their
aboundaunce
mighte
supply
others
lacke
,
that
also
others
aboundance
might
be
for
their
lacke
,
that
as
it
is
written
,
hee
that
gathered
much
hath
nothing
ouer
,
and
hee
that
gathered
little
had
not
the
lesse
:
Corinthes
,
S.
Iames
,
How
beautifull
are
the
feete
of
those
which
preach
peace
,
of
those
which
preach
good
thinges
.
Of
many
thousandes
in
the
tyme
of
persecution
by
bare
reading
conuerted
:
and
that
we
are
not
to
saye
that
the
people
where
they
haue
no
preaching
Minister
,
be
saued
by
myracle
:
Angust
.
O
what
if
you
had
heard
him selfe
speake
it
,
Concil.
Carthag
.
If
he
be
learned
,
if
he
be
instructed
in
the
law
of
God
:
If
he
be
Cautus
sensibus
scripturae
,
warie
in
the
sence
of
the
scriptures
:
si
in
dogmatibus
exercitatus
,
it
he
be
exercised
in
doctrines
,
opinions
or
sentences
,
meaning
of
all
sortes
,
that
he
may
be
able
to
put
difference
.
We
haue
learned
that
some
Priestes
or
Ministers
of
God
,
do
serue
or
giue
them-selues
to
a
superstitious
kinde
of
seruice
,
rather
then
to
the
puritye
of
the
minde
and
faith
,
who
beeing
cloked
,
hauing
their
loynes
girt
,
beleeue
that
they
shall
embrace
the
faith
of
holy
Scripture
,
not
by
the
spirit
but
by
the
letter
.
We
are
to
be
discerned
from
the
people
or
others
by
doctrin
,
not
by
garments
.
Concil.
Toletan
.
4.
Ignorance
the
mother
of
all
errours
is
especially
to
be
auoyded
in
Priestes
or
Ministers
,
who
haue
taken
on
them
the
dutey
of
teaching
among
the
people
of
God
.
For
Paul
doth
commaund
Priestes
or
Ministers
to
read
the
Scriptures
often
,
saying
to
Timothy
attend
to
reading
&
exhortation
:
let
Priests
or
Ministers
therefore
know
the
holy
scriptures
,
and
let
them
meditate
the
Canons
:
Polu
sunteles
.
let
all
their
worke
consist
in
diuine
preaching
and
doctrine
,
and
let
them
edifie
all
as
well
with
the
knowledge
of
faith
as
with
the
discipline
of
works
.
Chriso
.
1.
Tim
5.
17
,
For
this
is
much
for
the
edification
of
the
Church
,
and
very
requisite
that
the
Elders
be
apt
to
teach
,
for
this
cause
with
the
rest
,
with
this
,
that
they
should
be
giuen
to
hospitality
,
they
shoulde
be
moderate
that
they
should
be
vnblameable
,
he
also
numbreth
this
saying
,
he
must
be
didacticos
,
apt
to
teach
,
for
this
he
is
sayde
to
be
a
Teacher
.
August
.
Homilia
de
pastor
.
For
here
the
Apostle
sayeth
,
preach
the
Worde
,
be
instant
,
in
season
and
out
of
season
.
The
contrary
of
this
Doctrine
of
his
,
may
bee
prooued
by
the
example
of
Aaron
,
who
was
an
Idolater
or
an
abbettor
of
idolatry
in
the
golden
Calfe
,
and
yet
was
not
from
his
repentance
put
from
his
priesthood
.
Likewise
by
Peter
,
whose
reuolt
and
temporary
Apostasy
in
denying
his
Master
Christe
was
no
lesse
heinouse
,
then
the
sinne
of
our
idolatrouse
priests
,
who
for
the
moste
part
sinned
but
of
ignorance
in
that
generall
blindenesse
.
Likewise
Augustine
,
afterward
a
famous
Byshoppe
,
was
by
the
space
of
many
yeares
,
a
detestable
Manachy
.
the
Concil.
Meldens
,
&
the
glo
.
out
of
the
Nicen
,
and
out
of
Leo.
And
Augustin
,
that
Heretickes
as
namely
Nouatians
and
Donatistis
,
returning
from
their
Heresies
may
be
receiued
.
Viret
,
Popery
,
men
maye
be
receiued
to
the
Gospell
.
Peter
Viret
in
dialog.
la
discipline
eccles.
des
eglises
reformes
du
royaulme
de
Fraunce
.
pag.
128.
129.
For
this
,
if
need
be
,
we
can
name
the
persons
and
prooue
it
.
Cyprian
,
It
so
vnlawfull
to
take
Mark
such
a
one
as
went
from
them
from
Pamphilia
,
and
accompanied
them
not
vnto
the
worke
,
at
sharp
strife
with
Barnabas
the
sonne
of
consolation
,
Mark
:
Carthage
,
Cyprian
,
Cyprian
,
lib.
1.
epist.
4.
And
there
be
other
both
many
and
grienous
faultes
,
wherewith
Basilides
and
Marshall
are
inwrapped
:
such
do
in
vaine
go
about
to
occupy
the
place
of
a
Byshop
,
seeing
it
is
manifest
that
such
men
may
not
gouern
the
Churche
of
Christ
,
nor
offer
vp
Sacrifices
vnto
God
;
Especially
when
of
late
both
with
vs
,
and
with
all
the
byshops
in
the
worlde
,
euen
Cornelius
also
our
fellow
in
ministry
peaceable
and
iust
,
and
whom
the
Lord
vouchsafed
the
honour
of
a
Martyr
,
decreed
that
such
men
might
be
admitted
to
repentance
,
but
should
notwithstanding
be
kept
from
the
cleargy
or
ministery
.
lib.
1.
How
dare
he
challenge
vnto
him
the
ministery
which
he
hath
betrayed
:
as
though
it
were
lawfull
after
hauing
beene
at
the
Alter
of
the
diuell
,
to
come
vnto
the
Alter
of
God
.
Seeing
therefore
the
Lorde
threatneth
such
tormentes
and
punishmentes
in
the
daye
of
his
wrath
,
to
such
as
obey
the
Deuill
,
and
sacrifice
to
Idolles
:
howe
can
hee
thinke
,
that
he
may
doe
the
office
of
the
minister
of
God
,
which
hathe
obeied
,
and
serued
the
priests
of
the
deuils
?
or
howe
doth
hee
thinke
that
his
hand
can
be
translated
to
the
sacrifice
&
praier
of
the
Lord
,
which
was
captiue
to
sacriledge
&
such
a
crime
.
And
heereuppon
I
woulde
bee
resolued
by
the
Authour
or
some
other
,
whether
hee
thinke
this
indowment
of
euerye
Minister
with
the
execution
of
all
dicsipline
,
admitting
but
not
graunting
it
to
be
so
by
law
,
to
be
a
conuenient
pollicy
,
for
the
vnity
&
quiet
of
the
Churche
?
And
whether
he
him selfe
had
not
rather
be
vnder
the
forme
now
in
practize
,
in
regard
of
his
owne
contentment
,
then
vnder
the
infinite
dictatorship
of
his
owne
minister
?
or
else
whether
shoulde
appellations
from
the
iudgement
of
the
minister
in
this
respect
be
allowed
of
?
and
whether
to
the
byshoppe
or
to
whome
?
and
whether
the
Byshop
by
this
interpretation
of
lawe
,
shall
not
retain
his
authority
of
executing
the
Discipline
of
the
Church
vpon
euery
particuler
minister
,
and
in
euery
seuerall
parish
as
afore
time
,
seeing
the
authour
sayth
,
as
well
as
the
Byshop
in
his
diocesse
?
And
if
he
shall
,
what
if
the
Byshop
vppon
good
cause
,
and
for
abusing
of
the
authority
,
shall
suspende
the
Minister
from
his
iurisdiction
of
executing
Discipline
,
is
hee
not
at
the
same
point
he
was
before
?
what
if
the
Byshop
him-selfe
dwell
in
the
parish
,
who
shall
then
haue
the
preheminence
?
and
what
if
the
ministers
discretion
serue
him
,
vpon
some
small
or
surmised
cause
to
excommunicate
some
great
pear
or
noble
counseller
of
his
parish
,
whose
indignation
may
turne
the
whole
Church
to
greate
mischeefe
?
or
to
proceede
against
his
Patrone
,
who
peraduenture
hath
a
bond
of
him
to
resign
.
The
author
seemeth
to
me
to
deuide
the
discipline
of
the
Church
,
which
he
would
intitle
euery
Minister
vnto
,
into
admonition
,
denuntiation
,
and
excommunication
.
If
by
denuntiation
,
he
meane
the
publishing
of
Excommunication
done
by
him selfe
,
then
is
it
a
part
thereof
.
If
(
as
I
rather
think
)
he
mean
the
second
degree
of
proceeding
vpon
faults
not
publike
,
specified
in
the
18.
of
S.
Mathew
,
then
is
this
common
with
the
minister
vnto
all
other
Christians
,
euen
as
admonition
is
,
being
,
the
first
degree
:
And
where
the
minister
is
the
party
offended
,
and
hath
not
preuayled
,
neither
by
his
admonition
in
priuate
,
nor
his
denuntiation
before
two
or
three
,
to
whome
shall
hee
tell
it
in
the
third
place
,
where
he
himself
hath
the
authority
to
excommunicate
?
and
a
little
after
in
this
respect
hee
calleth
the
Ministers
priuate
and
inferiour
.
Yes
truely
,
as
was
touched
afore
,
they
doe
and
may
execute
the
discipline
of
declaring
by
doctrine
,
according
to
the
Worde
of
God
,
mens
sins
to
be
bound
or
losed
,
and
the
censure
of
rebuking
and
prouing
openly
,
those
that
doe
freeze
in
the
dregges
of
theire
sinnes
,
which
are
not
the
leaste
partes
of
discipline
:
which
is
as
much
(
as
for
auoiding
intollerable
inconueniences
,
which
otherwise
would
insue
)
as
is
expedient
to
bee
attributed
to
euery
one
&c.
And
if
no
especiall
preeminence
might
be
attributed
in
matter
of
execution
of
discipline
to
one
minister
aboue
another
:
why
is
it
sayde
by
S.
Paul
,
excommunicating
the
incestuous
Corinthian
,
Absens
decreui
,
being
absent
I
decreed
,
seeing
they
had
Ministers
of
their
own
,
and
willed
the
denuntiation
afterward
to
be
done
openly
in
the
Church
?
And
at
the
time
of
his
absolution
Paul
being
absente
saith
,
to
whom
you
forgiue
any
thing
I
forgiue
also
:
likewise
speaking
of
the
Anathematisme
of
Hymenaeus
and
Alexander
:
I
haue
giuen
them
vp
vnto
Sathan
,
not
naming
their
owne
Minister
,
or
any
segniory
.
But
if
hee
meane
the
discipline
passiuely
,
I
thinke
hee
and
his
fellowes
haue
had
some
wrong
at
the
cheefe
prelates
hands
a
great
while
.
If
actiuely
,
that
euery
minister
without
check
might
haue
the
execution
of
all
discipline
in
his
owne
Parish
,
I
do
verily
beleeue
that
this
man
,
and
others
,
who
so
earnestly
call
for
they
knowe
not
what
,
If
they
might
not
be
them selues
also
Elders
,
auncientes
,
or
what
you
will
sauing
Priests
of
the
Seigniory
,
would
be
the
the
first
weary
of
it
;
For
if
I
knowe
their
disposition
,
they
are
as
vnpatient
as
any
men
,
to
bee
at
controlment
,
and
moste
of
all
by
a
poore
Minister
.
Priuat
Ministers
,
The
Prophets
prophesie
for
reward
,
and
the
Priestes
exercise
dominion
*
by
their
meanes
:
and
my
people
loue
it
so
,
and
what
will
they
doe
in
the
ende
?
Though
he
commanded
the
Acte
shoulde
be
done
in
the
face
of
the
Church
,
as
such
sentences
and
censures
bee
at
this
day
executed
also
:
yet
the
iudgement
and
authority
of
giuing
sentence
was
in
himselfe
,
and
not
in
the
whol
multitude
,
as
the
Protestants
and
populer
sects
affirm
.
What
if
hee
vpon
want
of
discretion
,
doe
excommunicate
some
greate
peere
of
his
Parish
vppon
some
surmized
cause
,
whose
indignation
may
turne
the
whole
church
to
great
mischeefe
?
Presidents
,
Seperate
from
amongst
them
such
,
Should
iudge
those
within
forgiue
,
they
forgaue
,
forgiue
:
rebuke
or
censure
of
many
,
freely
to
forgiue
,
ratifie
,
and
by
authority
confirme
I
determine
or
iudge
Crino
.
this
was
the
decree
of
the
Apostles
&
Elders
,
with
the
consent
of
the
Churches
.
Why
iudge
you
not
those
who
are
within
?
Seperate
him
therefore
from
amongst
you
:
Zephan
3.
3.
They
haue
polluted
Quodesh
.
the
holye
thinges
.
Arles
.
2.
Elders
and
Clearkes
decree
against
the
Bishop
.
by
the
authority
of
auncient
decrees
.
Elders
:
Concil.
Carthag
.
That
the
Bishops
heare
no
cause
,
without
the
presence
of
his
Clearkes
,
otherwise
the
sentence
shall
be
voyde
,
vnlesse
it
be
confirmed
by
the
presence
of
the
Clearkes
.
That
the
Bishop
ordayne
not
Clearks
without
the
counsell
of
his
clearks
,
so
that
he
seeke
the
assent
and
leaue
,
or
conniuence
&
testimonie
of
the
citizens
.
Canon
.
An
Elder
when
he
is
ordayned
,
the
Bishop
blessing
him
,
holding
his
hand
vppon
his
heade
,
let
also
all
the
Elders
which
are
present
,
holde
their
handes
by
the
handes
of
the
Bishop
.
That
the
Clearkes
or
those
who
containe
,
come
not
to
the
Widowes
or
Virgins
,
but
by
the
commaundement
or
permission
of
the
Bishops
and
Elders
.
That
the
Elder
reconcile
not
the
penitent
,
not
hauing
asked
councell
of
the
Bishop
.
The
Elders
in
other
censures
of
the
Church
,
and
the
Church
hath
interest
in
excommunication
.
Speaking
of
excommunication
,
of
which
vntill
we
shall
haue
vnderstanding
,
what
he
haue
done
after
,
which
thing
when
it
regardeth
the
Counsell
and
sentence
of
vs
all
,
I
dare
not
preiudicate
the
matter
and
draw
it
only
to
my selfe
,
And
lib.
speaking
of
the
elders
saith
,
because
all
thinges
in
tradition
of
the
Lord
,
are
done
by
the
holie
Ghost
,
therefore
when
a
rule
and
forme
of
this
Discipline
is
deliuered
vnto
them
,
it
is
sayde
vnto
them
,
receiue
the
holy
ghost
:
&
because
it
doth
truly
appertaine
to
ecclesiasticall
righte
,
whose
sinnes
you
forgiue
.
&c.
And
I
hope
that
the
authour
will
not
heereby
gather
,
that
by
law
nowe
in
force
,
a
man
is
vtterly
&
simplie
forbidden
,
to
haue
an
other
preach
in
his
cure
,
for
then
all
our
new
doctours
De
robe
curté
,
who
iutrude
themselues
vppon
,
must
bee
faine
to
giue
ouer
their
cloakes
,
and
put
vp
their
Pipes
.
Vtteraunce
of
knowledge
,
Sound
is
vncertaine
,
Siluer
trumpets
Salt
,
Pastors
and
Teachers
,
and
,
and
,
There
is
neither
Iewe
nor
Grecian
,
ther
is
neither
bond
nor
free
,
there
is
neither
male
and
female
.
God
hath
set
in
the
Church
Doctors
,
Worde
,
or
vtteraunce
of
knowledge
,
Word
or
vtteraunce
of
Wisdome
And
these
God
hath
set
in
his
Church
,
first
Apostles
,
secondly
Prophetes
,
thirdly
teachers
,
after
powers
,
then
the
gifts
of
healing
,
helpers
,
gouernors
,
sorts
of
tongs
:
are
all
Apostles
?
are
al
propehts
?
Are
all
teachers
.
To
this
is
giuen
by
the
spirit
,
the
word
of
wisdom
,
to
an
other
the
word
of
knowledge
according
to
the
same
spirite
.
A
teacher
of
the
Gentiles
.
Ciprian
.
lib
ad
furitanos
.
Ambros
.
lib.
off
.
c.
Aug.
quest
ex
vtroq
:
test
.
mixt
.
q
Seuerus
,
Origin
,
●he
exercise
of
teaching
,
or
the
schole
exercising
,
as
some
where
euen
himself
maketh
relation
in
writing
,
&
none
serued
or
was
set
to
catechise
at
Alexandria
,
but
all
were
driuen
Scholazon
ti
de
tei
diatribe
.
Toi
Katechein
anakeimenou
.
Toutes
katecheseos
proeste
didaskaleiou
.
away
by
the
threatning
of
persecution
:
some
of
the
Gentils
came
vnto
him
to
heare
the
word
of
God
.
Origin
was
then
yeare
old
,
when
he
was
ouer
the
schoole
of
catechising
or
instructing
.
Orat.
Pros
tous
politeuomenous
.
The
seruants
must
be
subiect
to
their
masters
,
the
wiues
to
their
husbands
,
the
Church
to
the
Lorde
,
the
Disciples
to
their
Pastors
and
Teachers
.
But
why
are
Presbyteri
,
such
as
expound
in
the
Church
,
translated
Elders
?
I
trust
he
mindeth
not
hereby
to
shut
out
all
lay-men
from
the
Eldership
or
seigniory
which
is
dreamed
of
,
least
peraduenture
he
him self
be
Exclusissimus
.
And
doth
our
Author
thinke
that
this
man
heere
doth
meane
their
laye
Presbiteries
,
neuer
heard
nor
reade
of
from
the
beginning
of
the
worlde
,
till
within
these
fortye
yeares
or
little
more
,
because
he
nameth
them
Ecclesiasticall
Magistrates
.
That
such
Iesuites
Testament
Rheimes
.
Priests
specially
and
Prelates
,
are
worthy
of
duble
,
that
is
more
ample
honour
,
that
are
able
to
teach
and
preach
,
and
do
take
paines
therein
.
They
which
do
it
well
:
or
(
as
he
might
saye
)
with
worthinesse
of
praise
,
Especially
.
Copiontes
,
which
labor
,
to
all
that
are
ouer
them
in
the
Lord
,
and
admonish
them
,
which
they
must
reuerence
and
acknowledge
.
but
to
admonish
them
Gouernours
,
Beza
on
this
place
.
cheefe
attendance
must
be
on
reading
,
exhortation
and
doctrine
:
admonish
the
vnruly
,
comfort
the
weak
minded
,
&
patient
towards
all
.
IGNATIVS
AD
TRVLL
.
There
is
no
Churche
which
can
stande
without
her
Eldershippe
or
Councell
.
If
there
bee
anye
that
hath
committed
such
a
fault
,
that
hee
bee
put
away
from
the
partaking
of
the
Praiers
of
the
Church
,
and
from
all
holy
affayres
or
matters
:
there
bee
presidents
,
certain
of
the
most
approued
auncientes
and
Elders
.
on
the
place
of
interpreteth
tell
the
Church
,
tell
the
Gouernours
thereof
.
Complayneth
that
the
Teachers
and
Ministers
of
the
Word
,
suffered
this
to
weare
out
of
the
Church
,
or
rather
of
pride
,
whilste
they
onely
would
seeme
to
doe
somwhat
.
Sacerdotes
,
Lib.
4.
Epi.
22
▪
when
either
examining
whether
al
things
agreed
to
them
which
should
be
in
those
,
who
were
prepared
for
the
Ecclesiasticall
function
.
We
gaue
we
with
the
Elders
,
Doctors
,
and
readers
,
ordain
him
Teacher
of
those
which
heare
.
The
Christian
Church
also
hath
her
Eldership
.
Ier.
2.
lib.
in
Isa.
Ad
Galas
.
quest.
decim
.
They
chose
of
the
wisest
of
their
company
for
gouernors
:
which
shoulde
aswell
admonish
those
that
had
any
corporall
pollution
to
abstaine
from
the
assemblies
,
as
to
reprooue
the
breakers
of
the
Sabboth
.
At
any
accorde
or
resolution
amongst
themselues
,
nor
yet
with
other
learned
men
:
nice
and
a
dangerous
scrupulosity
,
rather
then
to
vse
that
aright
,
which
hath
beene
once
abused
,
that
a
man
shoulde
goe
aboute
to
deuise
,
and
to
laye
oute
new
plat-formes
in
Church-matters
,
Page
.
191
in
which
of
necessitie
such
difficulties
will
daylye
arise
,
that
cannot
by
anye
192
reache
of
mans
wit
bee
forecast
,
and
will
breede
not
only
a
continuall
toil
,
but
also
infinite
daungerous
innonations
,
both
in
the
Church
and
common-wealth
.
as
of
those
of
the
Circumcision
with
the
rest
,
woulde
haue
one
that
had
forsaken
the
worke
go
with
them
Sacrament
,
not
to
derogate
from
any
tollerable
order
established
in
these
externall
matters
,
they
make
Princes
raunge
with
the
rest
of
204.
their
Seniours
and
Church-gouernours
,
and
that
they
debar
princes
of
that
right
of
gouernment
in
matters
and
ouer
persons
Eeclesiastical
,
which
the
word
of
God
,
&
al
the
examples
of
godly
kings
of
Iudae
doe
aford
vnto
vs
.
He
do
as
Sanballet
,
send
vs
in
wryting
,
worde
,
that
we
woulde
builde
vp
the
wall
of
Ierusalem
,
and
make
our selues
kinges
,
when
these
thinges
come
to
passe
:
and
that
we
set
vp
Prophetes
which
may
preach
of
vs
at
Ierusalem
,
there
is
a
King
at
Iuda
,
euery
Pastor
will
be
Pope
:
yea
,
and
aboue
the
Prince
in
his
Presbytery
:
There
is
none
of
these
thinges
done
,
but
thou
dost
inuent
them
in
thine
hart
,
and
that
all
this
is
but
to
cast
a
feare
vnto
vs
:
for
they
say
their
handes
shall
be
weake
from
this
worke
that
they
perfect
it
not
.
Neh.
Confirme
(
O
God
)
our
hands
.
The
first
contradiction
(
interlased
with
a
lie
,
that
they
make
him
Antichrist
,
Page
.
193
which
refuseth
the
Presbytery
.
)
is
that
we
vrge
this
as
perpetual
out
of
the
place
of
Timothy
,
which
Caluin
doth
referre
to
his
ministery
.
which
is
no
contradiction
,
seeing
if
it
be
referred
to
his
office
,
yet
it
being
a
peece
of
Timothies
office
,
to
procure
that
the
thinges
which
he
had
learned
of
Paule
,
shoulde
be
kept
according
to
their
nature
and
difference
perpetually
in
the
Church
,
it
sufficiently
prooueth
the
matter
in
hande
,
otherwise
how
Could
he
keepe
it
vntill
the
comming
2.
Tim.
2.
of
Christ
?
Like
to
that
is
,
the
allegation
out
of
the
French
discipline
,
that
those
articles
which
were
there
contayned
touching
discipline
,
are
not
so
setled
amongst
vs
,
but
that
the
vnity
(
he
should
say
)
vtility
of
the
church
so
requiring
,
they
may
be
chaunged
.
which
I
saye
,
is
a
meere
cauill
,
for
they
speak
not
,
nor
meane
not
it
of
the
substance
of
discipline
contained
in
the
word
,
but
their
maner
of
setting
it
downe
according
to
the
circumstaunces
of
their
time
,
as
is
plaine
by
Their
title
which
calleth
it
Primier
proiect
.
but
the
firste
cast
,
brought
of
the
substance
of
it
,
as
it
is
contayned
in
the
Scriptures
of
the
Apostles
:
Which
substaunce
,
they
were
not
so
mad
to
change
,
though
they
iudged
they
might
alter
them
in
many
points
of
circumstances
.
For
these
sily
contradictions
,
let
him
take
these
monstrous
ones
proceding
from
this
,
that
they
wil
not
acknowledge
the
perfection
of
the
scriptures
concerning
discipline
.
One
numbring
vp
as
a
circumstance
to
come
clothed
or
naked
to
the
supper
of
the
Lord
,
saith
of
those
circumstances
,
None
of
these
D.
Whit.
booke
.
Page
.
24.
page
.
25.
circumstances
are
commauded
in
the
Scriptures
,
nor
can
by
necessary
collection
be
granted
,
yet
he
knoweth
it
doth
necessarily
appertaine
to
comelines
.
The
next
is
that
the
Abstractor
saith
,
the
Ministers
ought
not
to
Page-194
wrest
any
thing
into
the
gouernment
of
the
church
,
without
due
authoritie
from
the
magistrate
,
which
he
would
haue
contrary
to
that
of
the
admonition
&
M.
Cartwright
,
that
our
life
must
not
be
deare
,
as
thogh
we
can
not
by
suffering
(
if
need
were
,
for
so
the
condition
is
put
)
aforde
,
that
,
without
doing
any
thing
which
hath
not
due
authority
from
the
Magistrate
.
His
mingling
of
our
sentence
with
Brownes
,
Page
.
214.
is
but
a
malitious
proceeding
:
Seeing
him-selfe
testifieth
after
,
that
wee
doe
more
then
mislyke
his
doinges
and
writinges
in
respect
of
such
proceedinges
.
Like
to
this
,
is
that
he
alleadgeth
out
of
Iunius
,
that
if
the
Prince
doe
hinder
the
building
of
the
Church
,
the
people
may
by
force
of
armes
resist
him
.
Which
as
it
is
not
in
the
Page
which
he
noteth
,
nor
in
all
his
booke
of
Discipline
:
so
how
malitious
a
slander
it
is
brought
vp
,
vpon
so
worthy
a
seruaunt
of
God
,
maye
appeare
by
his
whole
treatise
of
the
ciuill
.
Magistrat
,
Lib.
3.
cap.
5.
What
shall
the
Church
doe
if
it
be
(
by
the
Magistrates
authoritye
,
commaundement
,
threatning
,
and
violence
)
compelled
.
If
the
Magistrate
ordayne
any
thing
contrarie
to
God
his
worde
,
that
the
Ministers
shoulde
plainly
and
modestly
declare
with
Paule
,
that
they
can
do
nothing
against
,
but
for
the
truth
.
But
if
the
thinges
be
not
contrarye
to
the
truth
and
necessitie
,
that
the
Churches
are
bound
rather
patiently
to
beare
it
,
then
to
bring
the
holy
ordinaunce
of
God
,
their
body
,
and
the
common
peace
into
daunger
.
deiure
Magistratum
,
Which
none
but
Papistes
and
Annabaptistes
Page
.
196.
will
deny
,
that
it
is
traiterous
to
teach
the
people
that
they
shoulde
owe
no
seruice
to
euil
kinges
,
could
not
chuse
but
oppose
to
the
fanaticall
Page
.
197.
spirites
and
traiterous
allegations
,
both
of
these
dangerous
innouators
,
&
of
the
rebellious
Papistes
.
because
we
would
haue
our
soueraignes
kingdome
to
be
holden
at
the
chiefe
inferior
magistrates
,
the
people
or
Presbyteries
deuotion
.
D.
Whitgift
That
such
Seniors
were
,
but
long
ago
worne
out
of
vse
.
Iehoshaphat
,
Dauid
,
the
cheefe
of
Families
for
the
iudgementes
of
the
Lord
,
and
for
the
matters
of
God
besides
others
appoynted
for
ciuill
matters
,
called
the
kings
matters
.
Ecclesiasticall
Presbytery
to
threaten
excommunication
and
seperation
from
Gods
people
,
First
they
say
the
forme
and
maner
of
Church
gouernment
may
be
altered
Page
.
by
the
Magistrate
▪
then
they
say
the
externall
gouernment
of
the
Church
vnder
a
Christian
Magistrate
must
be
according
to
the
forme
of
gouernment
used
in
the
common-wealth
.
may
alter
at
their
good
pleasure
.
is
contayned
vnder
S.
Paules
Bishop
,
place
of
the
Corinthes
of
him
,
Now
as
concerning
the
inward
gouernment
of
the
Church
of
Christ
by
his
spirite
,
God
working
in
his
children
,
by
the
Ministers
of
his
written
reuealed
word
:
&
also
touching
the
essential
poynts
of
the
outwarde
policy
&
gouernment
of
the
church
,
consisting
in
the
true
teaching
of
the
word
of
God
,
in
the
due
administration
of
sacraments
according
to
christs
holy
institution
,
in
the
aduancement
&
furthering
of
vertue
,
with
the
beating
downe
of
sinne
and
impiety
,
and
in
keeking
the
Church
in
a
quiet
vnity
and
good
order
,
there
is
no
difference
of
opinion
amongst
vs
.
we
affirm
that
no
such
precise
&
exact
forme
of
external
gouerment
of
the
Church
by
discipline
,
as
they
depaint
it
out
,
is
so
much
as
by
any
example
recommended
vnto
vs
in
scripture
:
but
much
lesse
commanded
,
as
a
continuall
platforme
for
euer
to
be
followed
.
aduancement
of
vertue
,
the
beating
downe
and
suppressing
of
sinne
and
impietie
,
the
keeping
of
the
Church
in
a
vnity
and
quiet
order
:
Betweene
the
kingdome
of
God
,
and
Gods
righteousnesse
established
by
it
,
his
kingdomr
may
come
,
That
his
will
may
be
done
in
earth
as
in
heauen
.
and
outwarde
policie
of
the
Church
,
The
onelye
Lorde
should
appoynt
the
diuers
Shoulde
minister
fully
sufficient
diuersitie
of
giftes
:
that
one
God
shoulde
worke
the
sufficient
diuers
faculties
alwayes
,
Baptize
,
doe
this
:
I
haue
set
Teachers
,
Gouernours
,
Doctor
abide
in
Teaching
,
exhortation
,
the
Elder
in
ruling
,
the
Deacon
in
distributing
,
the
Church
euen
the
Eldership
to
be
tolde
and
to
excommunicate
.
Tertulian
,
rentes
and
reuenewes
deliuered
to
the
Deacons
,
so
the
minister
receiue
his
stipend
,
T.
C.
and
the
Admonition
speaketh
earnestly
againste
those
who
gape
after
Church-liuings
and
turne
it
to
their
purses
and
pleasure
the
Gospell
liue
of
the
Gospell
,
and
that
the
Lord
be
thus
honoured
with
our
substance
,
we
acknowledge
he
doth
his
duety
towardes
the
Church
:
T.
C.
Doth
teach
it
from
the
Iewish
Synedrion
and
out
of
the
Talmud
T.
C.
Boneuen
.
cap.
fine
.
Danaeus
.
c.
lib
,
Isag
.
part
.
some
being
for
the
matters
of
God
,
some
for
ciuill
causes
,
the
matters
of
the
king
.
the
cheefe
or
rulers
of
Israel
,
the
Elders
of
Israel
.
Caluine
,
was
from
men
,
not
from
heauen
it
was
chosen
for
the
censure
of
manners
,
that
that
regiment
was
lawfull
and
allowed
of
God
,
worthily
prayse
the
order
deliuered
of
the
fathers
,
and
that
which
was
kept
vnder
the
law
Christ
sent
vnto
vs
.
by
his
Prophets
:
whole
Congregation
.
It
was
by
Seniors
in
Ecclesiasticall
assemblie
.
Neyther
in
Christes
time
,
nor
yeares
after
,
this
Christian
Eldership
was
established
:
Where
Christe
a
little
after
erected
his
Church
,
the
corruption
beeing
taken
away
,
he
did
restore
the
pure
vse
of
Excommunication
:
And
that
there
is
no
doubt
but
this
order
of
discipline
,
which
flourished
vnder
the
kingdome
of
Christ
,
succeeded
into
the
place
of
that
old
,
Apostles
wold
not
haue
executed
the
deacons
office
al
Christs
time
,
only
to
preach
and
baptize
in
Iudaea
,
and
to
be
witnesses
of
Christs
life
,
doctrine
,
death
,
resurrection
and
ascention
:
Hierusalem
,
because
they
were
withdrawn
that
neither
father
,
Councel
,
nor
Scripture
hath
left
in
memory
where
,
when
or
by
whom
it
was
first
erected
&
put
in
practize
,
Ambrose
,
to
proue
that
Seniors
haue
beene
,
and
that
they
were
extinguished
before
his
time
,
Is
not
expressed
in
the
Scripture
as
the
booke
of
Discipline
sayth
,
and
yet
all
may
be
prooued
by
direct
Scripture
,
one
sort
should
attend
on
gouernment
,
the
other
on
the
Word
&
prayer
.
Cartwight
,
rep.
S.
part
.
The
Eldership
out
of
the.
and
out
of
the
other
places
both
,
the
aunswere
is
,
it
is
not
perfect
,
for
Deacons
are
left
out
:
of
the
ministers
of
the
word
in
the
place
of
the
Ephesians
.
out
of
doubt
the
diuision
of
the
Apostle
there
is
perfect
,
It
is
perfect
.
It
is
not
perfect
,
it
is
perfect
,
it
is
not
perfect
,
Fraunce
,
If
one
shall
not
hinder
the
exercise
of
the
other
,
Souldier
of
Barwicke
,
without
Gods
warrant
in
Church-matters
,
beyonde
this
,
wee
condemn
as
vndiscreete
.
B.
lewell
M.
Nowell
.
Seeing
they
say
,
as
long
as
the
Ministers
bee
Godly
and
learned
,
it
is
necessary
they
shoulde
deside
these
matters
:
that
the
Prince
is
commaunded
to
haue
recourse
vnto
them
in
doubtfull
matters
,
that
it
belongeth
to
the
Byshops
office
,
to
decide
of
such
causes
:
but
Christian
Princes
haue
rather
to
doe
with
these
matters
,
then
ignoraunt
and
wicked
Priestes
and
that
in
case
of
necessitye
the
Prince
ought
to
prouide
for
conuenient
remedye
.
to
giue
Christian
Princes
power
of
fact
,
but
not
of
Lawe
and
authoritye
to
promote
and
set
forwarde
,
not
to
intermeddle
in
causes
Ecclesiasticall
.
T.
C.
then
power
of
fact
?
then
to
promote
matters
?
Iewell
:
in
that
the
Priest
doth
his
office
,
when
hee
excommunicateth
and
cutteth
off
a
deade
member
from
the
body
:
so
farre
foorth
the
Prince
,
bee
hee
neuer
so
mighty
is
inferiour
to
him
:
yea
,
not
onely
to
a
Byshoppe
,
but
to
a
simple
Priest
?
The
Prince
ought
patiently
to
abyde
Excommunication
at
the
Byshoppes
handes
?
professours
of
Diuinity
.
as
much
as
wee
,
wante
of
Baptisme
is
a
probable
sign
of
reprobation
:
Bertram
,
Deacons
,
T.
C.
which
are
set
downe
Daneus
:
That
the
church
must
he
gouerned
with
the
policie
,
which
Christ
hath
ordayned
:
&
that
the
offices
of
elders
,
and
Deacons
are
part
of
that
policie
.
part
of
his
Gospel
,
Daneus
,
T.
C.
watch-men
,
Euery
habitation
of
mount
Syon
,
vppon
her
meetinges
and
Congregations
,
there
must
be
this
presence
of
God
,
as
a
cloude
by
day
,
and
a
fire
by
night
:
Church
can
stande
without
her
Eldership
.
he
sayth
they
must
looke
to
the
Church
,
house
by
house
,
and
publikely
also
,
to
the
whole
and
to
the
sicke
.
For
they
say
they
may
definitiuely
define
causes
in
a
prouintiall
Synode
,
except
there
be
a
generall
counsell
,
and
they
will
haue
it
there
.
there
is
no
certayne
forme
of
electing
Ecclesiasticall
officers
vsed
by
the
Apostles
,
To
keepe
him-selfe
pure
,
and
not
to
communicate
with
other
mens
sinnes
Abstract
,
people
giue
their
consent
,
De
la
dis.
Eccles.
that
the
people
giue
their
consent
and
approbation
,
according
to
the
of
the
Actes
.
they
be
chosen
to
be
Ministers
their
whole
life
,
vnlesse
they
be
discharged
lawfully
,
the
Minister
may
do
it
,
and
that
by
Lawe
in
his
charge
,
aswell
as
the
Byshop
in
his
Diocesse
:
that
some
bee
,
Brown
,
Fraunce
,
to
baptize
without
an
assembly
:
T.
C.
T.
C.
That
anye
are
suffered
to
preach
nor
hauing
a
Pastorall
charge
.
vnleauened
bread
,
The
matters
of
mariage
or
such
like
heere
named
,
alow
that
that
place
for
instruction
be
repeated
and
intreased
of
?
M.
Iewell
M.
Nowel
No
man
for
any
crime
is
to
be
secluded
from
any
law
fall
vocation
,
if
he
repent
him
and
become
a
new
man
,
and
there
be
no
generall
commaundements
contrary
herevnto
:
In
the
beginning
it
was
permitted
to
euery
one
to
preach
the
Gospel
,
baptize
and
expound
the
Scriptures
;
but
when
the
Churche
was
enlarged
,
certain
Parishioners
were
appoynted
,
and
goucrnors
,
and
other
officers
ordayned
in
the
Church
.
The
worde
of
God
is
as
effectuall
when
it
is
read
,
as
when
it
is
preached
,
and
reading
is
preaching
,
Preaching
is
the
most
excellent
meanes
to
ingender
fayth
.
A
Catechistes
office
was
necessarie
in
the
Church
,
and
distinct
from
the
Pastour
.
Nothing
ought
to
be
reade
vnder
the
name
of
Scripture
but
the
Canonicall
,
that
for
one
bishop
to
haue
authority
ouer
an
other
,
is
neyther
by
Christ
,
Peter
,
nor
Paule
,
nor
by
any
right
of
God
his
word
.
Peter
Martyr
,
it
is
sayde
that
in
our
Church
D.
whit
.
in
the
end
.
religion
is
onely
reformed
to
the
quicke
.
they
see
weightyer
things
in
the
Church
,
wherat
they
may
be
greeued
as
other
good
men
are
.