To
the
Reader
.
BECAVSE
the
ensuing
discours
is
dialogue
wyse
,
&
that
some
note
of
distinction
must
of
necessitie
be
vsed
;
seeing
I
know
not
these
gentlemennes
names
:
I
haue
th●gh●
good
to
note
them
by
their
scarfs
,
as
by
calling
him
that
was
to
go
to
serue
the
King
of
Spayn
by
the
name
of
Red-scarf
,
according
to
the
colour
of
the
scarf
hee
wore
,
&
to
call
the
other
by
the
name
of
Tawney-scarf
,
because
he
wore
a
scarf
of
the
colour
of
Orange-tawney
.
The
compagnie
,
after
the
conditions
of
quietnes
at
parting
were
agreed
vpon
,
became
all
silent
,
to
heare
them
begin
,
The
first
then
(
beeing
Tawney-scarf
)
began
in
this
manner
.
IT
seemeth
strange
vnto
mee
,
that
anie
of
our
Countrimen
should
rather
resolue
to
serue
the
King
of
Spayn
,
then
thee
States
of
Holland
,
considering
how
long
their
cause
&
quarrel
had
bin
by
Englishmen
supported
,
and
the
number
of
our
Countrimen
that
continew
to
serue
on
that
syde
.
Red-scarf
.
It
semeth
as
strange
vnto
mee
that
men
of
sence
and
vnderstanding
,
should
not
rather
regard
the
iustnes
of
the
cause
&
quarrel
which
they
are
to
def●d
(
especially
when
they
are
not
constrayned
,
but
that
their
resolution
lyeth
in
their
owne
choyse
)
then
to
let
themselues
bee
blyndfolded
&
led
forward
by
sinister
suggestion
,
to
follow
the
vn
vnderstanding
vulgar
multitude
for
companie
or
custome
sake
,
because
they
haue
continued
so
long
a
tyme
to
serue
on
that
syde
,
without
knowing
or
caring
wherein
right
or
wrong
consisteth
.
Tawney-scarf
.
You
must
not
think
that
the
first
resolution
taken
for
the
assistance
of
the
Hollanders
was
without
good
consideration
of
the
iustnes
of
their
cause
,
and
the
same
beeing
once
begun
and
continued
,
what
needed
further
doubt
or
scruple
bee
made
thereof
by
the
after-followers
of
it
?
Red-scarf
.
Because
it
is
no
article
of
faith
,
to
belieue
that
the
first
resolution
taken
in
England
for
the
assisting
of
the
Hollanders
;
was
not
without
good
consideration
of
the
iustnes
of
their
cause
,
diuers
haue
since
penetrated
further
in
to
it
,
to
see
whether
it
so
were
or
not
,
but
could
not
so
fynd
it
,
&
therefore
those
you
speak
of
,
that
haue
followed
it
without
scruple
,
haue
bin
people
that
were
not
scrupulus
at
all
,
for
there
is
no
cause
bee
it
neuer
so
bad
,
but
some
will
bee
found
without
anie
scruple
willing
to
follow
it
.
Tawney
scarf
.
I
know
their
are
some
that
are
redie
enough
to
embrace
the
folowing
of
bad
courses
,
but
what
concernes
that
this
?
Red-scarf
.
If
the
cause
of
the
Hollanders
by
anie
vndisprooueable
reasons
of
yours
shall
appeer
vnto
mee
to
bee
iust
,
I
shal
not
onlie
bee
sorrie
for
myn
error
in
not
apprehending
it
so
to
bee
,
but
resolue
to
go
along
with
your self
vnto
their
seruice
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
am
glad
to
heare
you
speak
so
,
&
therefore
I
wil
endeuour
to
giue
you
satisfaction
in
hope
of
the
having
of
your
good
compagnie
.
Three
causes
I
conceaue
to
haue
bin
the
motyues
why
Queen
Elizabeth
did
first
vndergo
her
assisting
the
Hollanders
.
The
first
was
,
their
beeing
opressed
and
wronged
by
the
King
of
Spayn
,
and
in
danger
to
bee
broght
vnder
the
seueritie
,
of
the
Spanish
inquisition
.
The
second
was
in
regard
they
were
our
so
neer
aioyning
freindes
&
neyghbours
.
And
the
third
and
that
not
the
least
,
was
for
the
maintenance
of
the
Ghospel
.
Red-scarf
.
You
haue
heer
alleadged
sundrie
reasons
to
haue
caused
Queen
Elizabeth
to
take
the
Hollanders
partes
,
it
is
reason
then
that
If
so
bee
I
cannot
allow
them
for
sufficient
reasons
,
I
prooue
them
not
so
to
bee
,
which
by
your
patience
&
permission
,
I
think
I
shal
be
able
to
do
.
The
first
point
is
about
their
beeing
oppressed
and
wronged
by
the
King
of
Spayn
,
and
in
danger
to
bee
broght
vnder
the
seueritie
of
a
Spanish
inquisition
.
That
these
people
lyued
in
obedience
of
King
Phillip
the
second
of
Spayn
▪
as
did
all
the
other
inhabitants
of
the
seuenteen
Netherland
Prouinces
,
acknowledging
him
as
their
true
&
lawfull
Soueraigne
Lord
,
as
they
had
acknowledged
his
anceters
before
him
from
whome
hee
successyuely
inherited
those
countries
,
no
man
can
make
anie
doubt
or
question
,
The
question
then
is
whether
this
King
when
he
came
to
the
possession
of
these
countries
,
did
impose
vpon
the
people
anie
pressures
more
then
his
former
ancesters
had
donne
,
but
who
is
able
to
shew
that
he
did
?
The
sayd
King
beeing
then
in
as
full
and
quiet
possession
of
all
those
countries
as
euer
anie
of
his
ancesters
had
bin
,
&
departing
from
thence
towards
Spayn
in
the
yeare
1559.
hee
left
none
of
his
Netherland
subiects
for
anie
cause
of
innouation
,
in
anie
thing
,
anie
whit
disgusted
,
but
in
as
great
tranquilitie
as
euer
they
had
bin
,
Hee
left
behind
him
in
those
countries
no
Spanish
Gouernours
nor
Soldiers
,
but
gaue
the
particular
gouernments
to
the
nobilitie
of
the
countrie
it self
,
and
the
generall
Gouernment
of
them
all
,
vnto
his
naturall
sister
the
Duchesse
of
Parma
,
beeing
of
the
same
countrie
borne
,
what
wrong
in
anie
respect
was
heer
donne
them
?
who
complayned
of
anie
wrong
?
why
was
not
the
good
peace
and
reciprocall
loue
between
this
King
and
his
Netherland
subiects
continued
?
who
began
the
breach
?
what
actions
of
innouation
caused
it
?
proceeded
it
from
this
Prince
or
from
the
Netherland
people
?
When
no
thoght
nor
cogitation
was
in
this
Kinges
mynd
of
anie
breach
between
him
and
his
subiects
,
in
the
yeare
of
our
Lord
1566.
certayn
of
the
rascalitie
beeing
suggested
by
seditious
preachers
,
&
those
preachers
set
on
by
some
of
nobillitie
litle
better
then
bankrupt
,
they
began
in
moste
rebellious
rage
to
fall
to
the
robbing
and
spoyling
of
Churches
,
The
Duchesse
of
Parma
beeing
at
Bruxelles
when
the
newes
of
his
outragious
and
generall
sacrilegious
theft
,
was
broght
vnto
her
,
was
much
amased
there
at
,
and
demaunded
of
the
Earle
of
Barlamont
,
(
who
then
was
present
)
what
they
were
that
had
donne
this
,
where
vnto
he
answered
her
in
French
,
Ce
ne
sont
que
de
Geus
,
which
is
asmuch
to
say
in
English
They
are
but
rogues
,
or
rascalles
.
The
Churche
robbers
and
those
that
set
them
on
woork
,
whereof
some
were
gentlemen
(
thogh
much
vnwoorthie
of
that
title
)
having
gotten
knowlege
how
the
name
of
Geus
was
giuen
them
,
did
foorth-with
accept
of
the
name
,
and
wore
in
stede
of
brooches
on
their
hattes
litle
wodden
dishes
,
to
betoken
beggers
dishes
,
&
some
of
that
sorte
did
afterward
weare
fox-tayles
in
their
hattes
in
steed
of
fethers
,
so
as
it
seemeth
they
took
a
glorie
in
this
woorthie
name
,
for
they
also
caused
a
print
or
stamp
of
a
cock
to
bee
made
,
at
whose
mouth
the
wordes
,
Viue
les
Geus
par
tout
le
monde
,
were
set
down
,
which
is
asmuch
to
say
,
as
Liue
or
florish
may
the
rogues
ouer
all
the
world
,
&
the
paper
printes
or
pictures
taken
from
this
stamp
,
were
set
vp
in
all
howses
,
taphowses
and
tauernes
,
where
they
frequented
,
heer
hence
it
cometh
that
in
all
the
low
countries
this
kynd
of
people
do
vnto
this
day
beare
the
name
of
Geuses
,
howbeit
they
haue
since
bin
taught
to
call
themselues
The
Reformed
,
but
protestants
they
neither
do
,
or
euer
did
call
themselues
.
Heer
haue
you
the
originall
and
begining
of
the
breach
between
the
King
of
Spayn
,
&
these
his
Netherland
subiects
.
And
as
touching
their
beeing
oppressed
and
wronged
by
the
King
of
Spayn
,
and
in
danger
to
bee
brought
vnder
the
seueritie
of
the
Spanish
inquisition
.
The
blame
that
the
King
of
Spayn
heerin
deserueth
,
is
,
that
hee
was
so
much
ouer
shot
that
when
hee
heard
of
their
breaking
down
of
Alters
,
&
Images
in
Churches
,
of
their
robbing
and
carying
thence
of
siluer
Chalices
,
patrens
,
cruets
,
candlesticks
,
lamps
,
&
reliquaries
,
with
the
tapistrie
,
and
whatsoeuer
they
might
make
monie
of
,
euen
to
the
verie
belles
in
the
steeples
,
he
had
not
comended
it
to
be
wel
donne
,
and
sent
them
rewardes
for
so
dooing
,
&
so
haue
let
them
runne
on
euen
to
the
taking
of
the
crucifix
out
of
the
Churche
,
and
hanging
it
on
the
gallowes
as
they
did
at
Gorcum
in
Holland
,
an
acte
that
albeit
the
diuel
,
Iewes
,
and
Geuses
,
could
take
pleasure
in
,
yet
would
verie
Turcks
and
Mahometanes
be
scandalized
to
behold
it
.
Now
because
the
King
of
Spayn
had
sworne
at
his
beeing
in
the
Netherlandes
;
to
defend
the
Churche
and
Ecclesiastical
persons
in
their
ancient
&
Christian
priuileges
,
and
that
hee
apprehended
Churche-robberie
to
be
theft
,
he
so
much
wronged
these
people
as
to
send
the
Duke
of
Alua
to
punish
this
theft
,
which
as
I
take
it
,
was
as
litle
wrong
as
to
hang
a
minister
for
stealing
of
a
book
of
Martirs
out
of
a
Parish
Churche
in
London
.
Tawney-scarf
.
You
haue
heer
sayd
somthing
,
but
the
Duke
of
Alua
was
not
satisfyed
with
the
hanging
and
punishing
of
a
number
of
these
,
but
hee
soght
to
haue
broght
in
and
intruded
vpon
them
the
Tirannons
inquisition
of
Spayn
,
which
was
a
meer
innouation
,
&
such
as
the
priuileges
of
the
countrie
could
not
beare
.
Red-scarf
.
The
Duke
of
Alua
had
neuer
charge
from
Spayn
nor
neuer
intention
of
his
own
,
to
bring
an
inquisition
into
the
Netherlandes
,
this
is
but
a
meer
calumnie
,
which
hath
bin
giuen
out
&
spred
abrode
by
the
seditious
,
to
foster
the
obstinatie
of
the
people
,
But
had
the
inquisition
bin
broght
into
the
Netherlandes
,
it
had
but
returned
from
whence
in
long
fore
going
yeares
it
came
,
for
you
must
note
that
the
inquisition
was
neuer
invented
or
broght
vp
in
Spayn
,
or
there
euer
intended
for
Protestants
,
seeing
it
was
in
the
world
manie
ages
before
euer
the
world
was
acquainted
with
the
name
of
Protestants
,
or
with
anie
such
kynde
of
people
as
Protestants
are
,
for
the
Emperor
Charles
the
great
who
liued
about
800.
yeares
past
,
did
first
promulgate
and
put
it
in
practise
,
and
the
cause
was
,
that
after
the
Saxons
in
their
countrie
of
Saxonie
,
(
Holland
,
and
those
annexed
prouinces
,
beeing
at
that
tyme
partes
of
the
Nether
Saxonie
)
had
bin
brought
from
Paganisme
to
Christianitie
,
this
pious
Emperor
having
greatly
furthered
it
,
hee
had
no
soouer
turned
his
back
by
reason
of
his
beeing
empeached
with
warres
in
other
partes
,
but
these
Saxons
turned
from
Christianitie
back
agayn
to
paganisme
,
and
for
such
Apostataes
and
forsakers
of
the
faith
hee
ordayned
an
inquisition
,
the
memorie
whereof
gaue
example
that
some
ages
after
it
was
renewed
and
put
in
practise
in
Spayn
,
for
such
moores
&
Iewes
,
as
having
receaued
the
character
of
Christe
fel
back
agayn
to
Mathometisme
,
and
Indaisme
,
and
albeit
this
inquisition
was
neuer
intended
(
as
before
is
sayd
)
to
haue
bin
renewed
in
the
Netherlandes
,
yet
paraduenture
it
might
haue
prooued
as
necessarie
when
signes
appeered
of
the
good
disposition
of
some
there
,
aswel
to
Mahometisme
,
as
to
Iudaisme
,
for
diuers
that
are
yet
lyving
haue
seene
written
vpon
the
targets
or
rondasses
which
some
of
these
Geus
gallants
did
beare
,
their
resolution
there
vnto
,
in
these
woordes
,
Rather
Turkish
,
then
Popish
,
which
is
in
effect
,
rather
Mahomet
than
Christe
,
and
Hollanders
reporte
themselues
that
some
of
their
countrimen
haue
bin
so
edified
in
the
present
Synagogue
of
Amsterdam
,
that
they
haue
relinquished
their
Christianitie
&
are
become
lewes
,
&
for
defect
of
an
inquisition
had
not
anie
thing
sayd
vnto
them
for
it
,
nor
must
they
where
profession
is
made
of
such
conscience
libertie
,
that
euerie
man
may
chuse
what
hee
wil
belieue
,
or
whether
hee
will
belieue
anie
thing
or
nothing
.
But
this
may
seeme
the
lesse
wonder
,
whenthere
haue
bin
found
among
these
geuses
,
a
companie
that
marched
vnder
the
ensigne
of
the
deuil
,
for
so
was
the
ensigne
called
,
because
there
were
depicted
therein
the
Diuelles
clawes
,
which
ma●…ie
that
are
yet
lyving
haue
seene
displayed
in
the
town
of
Liere
in
Brabant
,
at
such
tyme
as
it
stood
out
in
rebellion
against
the
King
,
&
so
may
you
now
see
how
rebellion
against
the
king
,
&
rebellion
against
God
,
do
concurre
together
,
for
where
as
ancient
good
Christians
having
bin
taught
by
the
example
of
the
moste
glorious
Christian
Emperor
Constantinus
Magnus
,
to
fight
vnder
the
signe
of
the
Crosse
,
these
new
contrarie
Christians
,
abhorring
that
signe
,
haue
more
deuotion
to
the
clawes
of
the
deuill
,
a
well
deuysed
and
befitting
ensigne
for
such
as
foght
vnder
it
.
Tawncy-scarf
.
I
wote
well
there
is
in
Holland
free
libertie
of
conscience
allowed
to
all
,
and
free
exercise
of
Religion
allowed
to
some
,
but
of
anie
their
enclyning
to
Mahometisme
or
to
Iudaisme
,
or
of
their
marching
vnder
the
deuilles
clawes
,
haue
I
not
heard
.
Red-scarf
.
Where
free
libertie
of
conscience
is
allowed
,
why
may
not
euerie
one
belieue
as
him
list
?
what
shal
restrayn
him
?
If
you
doubt
of
the
Hollanders
making
difficultie
of
turning
Turckes
,
do
but
enquire
what
they
haue
don
at
Tunis
where
they
haue
fal●…e
to
Mahometisme
by
whole
shipfulls
at
once
,
and
afterward
to
mend
the
matter
haue
taught
the
Mahometanes
of
those
partes
,
the
laudable
science
of
Piracie
,
for
the
more
affliction
of
Christians
,
and
as
for
Iudaisme
,
such
as
lyke
there
of
and
lyke
no
swynes
flesh
▪
or
can
bee
content
to
forbeare
the
eating
thereof
may
bee
circumcised
when
they
wil
,
and
then
speak
as
much
blasphemie
against
Christ
as
the
devil
wil
direct
them
to
do
.
Thus
haue
I
heer
shewed
you
,
what
great
wrong
the
King
of
Spayn
hath
donne
this
people
,
and
what
great
cause
they
haue
to
complayn
of
his
breach
of
their
priuileges
,
which
is
alwaycs
in
their
mouthes
,
albeit
they
would
neuer
vouchsafe
to
produce
anie
one
old
priuilege
for
the
robbing
of
Churches
.
I
haue
also
shewed
you
where
the
inquisition
began
,
and
the
cause
why
it
was
first
put
in
practise
in
Saxonie
,
&
afterward
in
Spayn
,
the
name
whereof
is
now
asmuch
put
in
practise
in
Holland
,
in
continuall
pamphlets
&
preachings
,
as
is
the
name
of
a
Bulbegger
to
make
litle
children
afrayd
.
Tawney-scarf
.
These
bee
thinges
I
haue
not
to
do
withal
.
Red-scarf
.
But
these
bee
thinges
that
belong
to
the
purpose
,
heer
to
bee
alleaged
.
Tawney-scarf
.
The
Hollanders
were
and
are
,
our
neer
neyghbours
&
freindes
,
and
therefore
Queen
Elizabeth
saw
great
reason
to
vphold
them
,
against
her
potent
enemie
the
King
of
Spayn
.
Red-scarf
.
Before
I
come
to
discours
about
Queen
Elizabeths
reason
for
taking
the
Hollanders
partes
giue
mee
leaue
I
pray
you
to
speak
a
litle
of
the
blynd
ignorance
of
our
vulgar
multitude
heer
in
England
,
to
the
end
you
may
consider
of
the
reasons
why
they
hate
the
Spagniard
,
&
loue
the
Hollander
,
to
see
how
well
&
wisely
this
loue
&
hatred
is
founded
.
That
England
and
Spayn
haue
anciently
remayned
in
great
amitie
together
Histories
&
Chronicles
wil
witnes
,
and
the
diuers
alliances
and
mariages
often
made
between
those
two
countries
,
can
also
giue
testimonie
thereof
.
True
then
it
is
,
that
the
great
breach
and
hostillitie
between
England
and
Spayn
began
but
in
these
our
dayes
,
let
vs
now
see
&
consider
why
&
how
it
began
,
to
wit
,
whether
by
Spayn
or
by
England
.
King
Phillip
the
second
of
Spayn
as
all
the
world
knoweth
,
did
vpon
the
death
of
Queen
Marie
his
wyf
,
giue
place
and
quiet
entrance
vnto
Queen
Elizabeth
,
&
for
further
proof
of
his
desyre
of
continuance
of
peace
and
amitie
with
her
hee
freely
gaue
vnto
her
all
Queen
Maries
Iewelles
,
they
iustly
belonging
vnto
himself
,
hee
also
kept
his
Ambassador
lidger
in
England
;
as
the
sayd
Queen
kept
hers
also
in
Spayn
,
profeising
out
wardly
vnto
him
all
loue
and
amitie
,
and
yet
this
not-withstanding
,
shee
permitted
secretly
and
vnderhand
,
the
transporte
of
Artillerie
and
Munition
of
warre
to
the
Moores
of
Granado
to
enable
them
to
rebel
,
iust
about
the
verie
same
tyme
that
the
Netherland
rebellion
was
determined
to
bee
begun
,
that
thereby
thee
King
of
Spayn
might
haue
his
handes
full
,
by
beeing
thrust
in-to
two
warres
at
once
,
both
which
shee
vnderhand
furthered
,
but
more
the
warre
of
the
Netherlandes
then
that
of
Granado
,
because
of
the
redier
comoditie
.
Soon
vpon
the
contryving
of
this
plot
,
when
the
King
of
Spayn
to
appease
the
Netherland
broyles
in
the
beginning
,
had
sent
the
Duke
of
Alua
with
forces
into
those
partes
,
and
after
his
arryuall
there
,
sent
him
a
supply
of
600000
crownes
,
some
affirme
it
to
haue
bin
800000.
shee
ceazed
vpon
this
monie
in
the
west
parte
of
England
,
and
having
gotten
it
into
her
handes
,
did
therewith
assist
his
Netherland
Rebelles
,
whereby
his
monie
ordayned
to
haue
serued
himself
against
his
rebelles
,
came
to
serue
his
rebelles
against
him
,
and
bred
besydes
this
a
farre
greater
inconvenience
,
for
it
was
the
cause
why
the
Duke
of
Alua
demaunded
the
tenth
pennie
of
the
countrie
peoples
goodes
,
whereby
they
became
the
more
alienated
and
apt
to
rebellion
.
Some
yeares
after
this
;
Captayn
Drake
was
employed
from
England
to
the
west-Indies
,
where
hee
robbed
the
King
of
Spayn
of
about
a
million
and
a
half
,
of
his
treasure
,
These
and
sundrie
other
wronges
and
detriments
were
donne
by
the
sayd
Queen
vnto
the
King
of
Spayn
at
such
tyme
as
either
had
their
Ambassadors
(
the
Ministers
of
peace
)
in
each
others
countrie
,
they
professing
to
each
other
,
loue
and
amitie
.
The
King
of
Spayn
dooing
against
the
Queen
of
England
,
no
acte
whatsoeuer
to
the
contrarie
,
whereas
she
contrariwise
continued
to
do
against
him
vnderhand
as
manie
wronges
as
she
could
,
besydes
those
great
notorious
wronges
heere
mentioned
,
But
when
these
grew
so
frequent
that
the
smart
vnto
the
King
of
Spayn
became
intollerable
,
and
so
manifested
vnto
the
world
that
all
other
Princes
and
people
took
notice
thereof
,
how
was
it
possible
that
it
could
stand
with
the
honor
of
a
King
,
and
of
such
a
potent
King
▪
as
is
a
King
of
Spayn
,
stil
to
continew
to
put
vp
wronges
as
fast
as
shee
continued
to
do
them
?
hee
was
therefore
at
the
last
moued
to
the
preparation
of
his
great
Armada
naual
▪
of
the
yeare
of
our
Lord
1588.
the
memorie
whereof
by
the
incessant
clamours
of
Puritanical
enemyes
of
peace
▪
hath
possessed
more
place
in
the
heades
of
the
inconsiderate
vulgar
multitude
,
then
the
manie
great
wronges
that
enforced
it
But
thankes
bee
vnto
God
,
our
peacefull
King
Iames
coming
to
the
crown
,
and
wel
knowing
how
matters
had
passed
,
did
to
the
great
happynes
of
the
Realme
salue
vp
this
sore
▪
from
further
festering
,
wherevnto
hee
found
Spayn
most
redie
and
willing
,
and
wel
content
to
let
pas
and
forget
all
English
iniuries
,
for
to
giue
the
Spagniaerds
their
due
,
certayn
it
is
,
they
are
men
▪
that
are
not
of
vnreconciliable
&
revengefull
natures
,
nor
such
long
entertayners
of
desyre
of
reuenge
,
as
some
other
nations
are
sayd
to
bee
,
And
this
appeereth
manifestly
in
this
nation
more
than
in
others
,
for
notwith
▪
standing
all
fore
going
hostillitie
between
Englishmen
and
Spagniards
,
both
by
sea
and
land
,
and
enuasions
euen
in
Portugall
and
Spayn
it self
,
whereof
people
may
remayn
more
sensible
then
of
an
vnefectuall
Armada
,
yet
hath
not
anie
English
Ambassador
or
anie
other
of
the
English
nation
bin
by
Spagniards
in
Spayn
barbarously
abused
,
but
I
am
ashamed
euen
for
the
honor
of
our
nation
to
repeat
how
Spanish
Ambassadors
,
and
other
Spagniardes
,
haue
bin
vsed
in
England
.
As
for
the
sundrie
benefits
which
the
commerce
and
traficque
between
England
and
Spayn
hath
broght
vnto
our
countrie
,
and
nation
,
I
doubt
not
but
manie
of
our
marchants
,
seafaring
men
,
and
others
,
wil
confesse
,
and
farre
more
profit
and
benefit
wil
no
doubt
ensue
the
moste
honorable
and
great
alliance
now
expected
.
But
let
vs
come
to
our
good
neyghbours
and
friendes
the
Hollanders
,
and
consider
of
the
gratefull
goodnes
and
benefits
which
wee
reap
by
them
,
that
thereby
wee
may
know
how
wel
and
wysely
wee
are
aduysed
to
esteem
them
for
our
good
Neyghbours
and
friendes
,
and
so
friendly
sticking
vnto
them
.
That
wee
haue
for
aboue
these
fiftie
yeares
taken
their
partes
,
is
sufficiently
known
,
that
the
people
of
England
haue
often
tymes
generally
smarted
by
the
great
pressures
and
parlamental
payments
imposed
vpon
them
by
Queen
Elizabeth
,
to
vphold
these
friendes
and
neyghbours
withall
,
is
lykewise
wel
enough
known
,
as
also
that
great
boundance
of
English
blood
hath
bin
shed
in
their
quarrel
;
&
an
infinite
number
of
Englishmennes
lyues
lost
,
whose
courage
and
valour
,
was
woorthie
of
more
honor
then
in
their
base
and
dishonorable
seruice
could
bee
deserued
,
and
now
when
all
comes
to
all
,
they
are
so
farre
from
honest
ciuillitie
,
that
they
will
not
acknowledge
anie
friendship
donne
them
,
and
therefore
can
they
not
entertayn
anie
thoghts
of
obligation
,
or
gratitude
,
nay
they
dare
playnly
tel
vs
;
that
wee
are
beholding
vnto
them
,
which
is
asmuch
to
say
as
that
they
expect
gratitude
at
our
handes
.
Tawney
scarf
.
In
deed
I
must
confesse
I
haue
heard
them
affirme
that
our
assisting
them
was
to
free
our selues
from
warre
in
our
own
countrie
,
by
meanes
of
Spanish
enuasion
,
which
may
carrie
some
reason
.
Red-scarf
.
But
what
reason
was
there
,
why
wee
should
haue
anie
feare
of
Spanish
enuasion
,
then
onlie
for
our
taking
their
partes
,
against
their
true
and
lawfull
Soueraigne
the
King
of
Spayn
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
must
remayn
your
debter
for
the
giuing
you
a
reason
heerof
,
vntil
I
am
able
to
do
it
.
Red-scarf
.
But
I
must
tel
you
further
,
that
they
do
not
onlie
deny
all
gratitude
where
it
is
due
,
and
vniustly
claym
it
,
where
they
ow
it
,
but
passing
further
beyond
the
limits
of
reason
and
humanitie
;
they
discouer
themselues
to
bee
such
monsters
,
as
to
beare
a
verie
diuellish
hatred
both
vnto
our
nation
and
to
our
moste
gratious
Soueraigne
himself
.
Against
our
nation
their
actious
declare
it
,
against
our
Soueraigne
their
vilanous
tounges
.
Of
their
moste
vile
and
contemptible
vsage
of
our
nation
in
the
East-Indies
I
shal
not
heer
need
to
speak
,
the
letters
written
by
our
marchants
and
others
from
thence
do
declare
it
;
Their
vsage
of
vs
in
Groon-land
,
and
the
vndooing
of
our
long
continued
trade
in
Muscouie
I
wil
also
omitt
,
but
wee
fynd
that
they
are
the
verie
caterpillers
and
desroyers
of
our
comon
welth
,
by
all
the
wayes
and
meanes
they
can
deuise
,
for
they
haue
not
onlie
,
by
meanes
of
their
corespondent
countriemen
,
conueyed
and
drawn
by
stelth
our
gold
and
siluer
out
of
the
Realme
,
but
they
haue
broght
the
whole
Realme
in
a
generall
decay
of
traficque
,
to
the
empouerishing
and
vndooing
of
thow
sandes
of
the
inhabitants
,
as
all
that
deal
in
clothing
in
all
partes
of
the
Realme
wil
confesse
.
As
for
their
vilanous
speeches
against
our
Soueraigne
,
I
could
name
vnto
you
that
Englishman
who
passing
not
long
since
between
Rotterdam
and
the
Hage
,
and
hearing
some
of
those
varlets
speake
il
of
his
Maiestie
,
which
hee
beeing
an
Englishman
could
not
endure
,
hee
as
it
became
him
,
did
in
good
manner
reprehend
them
for
it
,
but
straight-wayes
a
couple
of
them
drew
their
knyues
vpon
him
to
haue
stabbed
him
,
and
so
had
they
donne
,
had
they
not
bin
hild
&
kept
back
by
others
there
present
,
wee
haue
a
proverb
,
that
it
is
better
for
some
to
steal
a
hors
then
some
to
look
on
.
What
detriments
endure
wee
by
Spagniards
?
where
do
they
bynd
vs
hand
and
foot
,
and
cast
vs
ouer
Indian
rockes
lyke
dogges
?
Where
vndo
they
our
trade
?
how
empouerish
they
our
countrie
?
where
raile
they
vpon
our
Soueraigne
?
Are
wee
in
our
right
wittes
I
wonder
?
when
wee
resolue
to
go
to
shed
our
blood
for
those
that
suck
our
blood
?
when
wee
fight
for
those
at
home
,
that
kil
vs
abroad
,
mee
thinks
purging
with
Heleborus
were
fitter
now
a
dayes
to
bee
taken
in
vse
of
our
countrimen
,
then
the
smoak-drinck
of
driueling
Tobacco
.
Tawney-scarf
.
For
Godes
loue
le
ts
haue
no
more
of
this
,
least
you
driue
mee
in
a
desperate
mood
to
turne
Spanish
with
you
,
and
so
discredit
my self
with
my
friendes
that
expect
mee
in
Holland
.
Red-scarf
.
Nay
Sir
,
you
should
by
your
so
dooing
,
giue
a
good
ensample
for
those
friends
to
follow
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
haue
serued
some
yeares
alredie
in
Holland
,
and
haue
past
my
woord
and
promis
to
some
friends
of
myn
there
to
return
back
vnto
them
agayn
,
to
the
seruice
of
the
States
.
Red-scarf
.
I
could
then
wish
that
both
you
and
they
would
resolue
to
serue
them
as
they
oght
to
bee
serued
,
such
tricks
I
meane
as
might
revenge
some
of
the
vilanies
and
wronges
they
haue
offred
vs
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
gesse
at
your
meaning
,
but
it
concurres
not
with
my
resolution
,
&
you
know
theare
is
a
precept
that
willeth
to
do
good
for
evil
.
Red-scarf
.
That
is
wel
donne
where
evil
is
thereby
amended
,
but
your
dooing
good
where
you
do
it
,
makes
evil
become
woors
.
But
let
mee
now
returne
to
speak
somthing
of
Queen
Elizabethes
reason
to
take
the
Hollanders
partes
,
And
first
I
must
tel
you
that
Queen
Elizabeth
did
neuer
take
their
partes
vpon
compassion
of
their
cause
,
in
regard
of
anie
wrong
which
shee
knew
the
King
of
Spayn
to
do
them
,
for
shee
could
not
but
know
them
to
be
as
verie
notorious
rebelles
,
as
euer
were
anie
in
the
world
,
&
therefore
was
her
assistence
not
giuen
because
shee
loued
them
,
but
because
shee
hated
the
King
of
Spayn
,
and
so
made
vse
of
them
as
the
instruments
of
her
hate
.
Tawney-scarf
.
Then
must
there
bee
cause
why
shee
hated
the
King
of
Spayn
,
and
hating
him
,
shee
had
reason
to
favor
and
foster
those
that
hated
him
as
wel
as
her self
.
Red-scarf
.
I
pray
Sir
,
for
the
instruction
of
my
ignorance
,
tel
mee
the
cause
why
shee
hated
him
.
Tawney-scarf
.
The
cause
I
cannot
tel
you
,
but
cause
I
must
imagine
there
was
.
Red-scarf
.
You
can
know
no
iust
cause
,
nor
anie
man
els
,
but
you
say
you
must
imagine
there
was
a
cause
,
but
this
must
is
not
forcecible
,
vnlesse
it
were
a
cleere
case
that
neuer
anie
man
were
causelesly
hated
,
But
to
tel
you
the
true
cause
why
in
deed
shee
ha●ed
him
,
it
was
no
other
then
for
dooing
her
good
.
Tawney
scarf
.
That
mee
thinkes
is
impossible
.
Red
scarf
.
Impossible
onlie
to
good
and
gratefull
myndes
.
The
King
of
Spayn
in
her
sister
Queen
Maries
tyme
,
did
her
no
lesse
good
then
the
saving
of
her
lyf
,
and
experience
hath
often
shewed
that
there
are
some
kynd
of
people
that
can
neuer
abyde
those
that
they
are
verie
deeply
beholding
vnto
,
because
they
think
the
obligation
of
gratitude
to
bee
a
bondage
,
whereas
want
of
gratitude
when
it
consisteth
in
the
wil
and
not
in
the
power
,
is
monstrous
and
not
humayn
.
Tawney
scarf
.
That
the
king
of
Spayn
saued
her
lyf
can
hardly
bee
prooueed
,
for
albeit
shee
was
imprisoned
in
her
sisters
tyme
,
yet
shee
was
neuer
broght
to
anie
publyke
triall
,
and
so
there
was
no
saving
of
her
lyf
needfull
,
shee
not
beeing
by
law
found
giltie
.
Red-scarf
.
If
it
had
come
to
that
,
it
had
gon
hard
with
her
,
but
the
King
of
Spayn
preuented
it
,
and
thereby
not
onlie
saued
her
lyf
,
but
also
her
honor
.
Tawney-scarf
.
But
how
is
this
prooued
?
Red-scarf
.
That
there
were
diuers
conspiracies
of
treason
in
her
sisters
tyme
is
evident
,
that
shee
was
apprehended
and
put
in
prison
vpon
them
,
is
evident
,
that
shee
was
the
onlie
hope
&
obiect
of
the
conspira●ors
is
evident
,
and
that
some
of
them
accused
her
is
also
evident
,
for
religion
her
troobles
were
not
,
because
shee
made
profession
of
the
religion
of
her
sister
,
and
daylie
heard
Masse
,
Some
cause
there
must
bee
of
her
apprehension
,
which
must
also
bee
some
great
cause
,
for
no
small
cause
can
vrge
the
calling
in
question
,
and
apprehension
of
the
sister
of
a
Queen
regnant
,
and
her
next
and
apparent
heyre
,
But
I
wil
leaue
the
belief
of
this
to
your
own
leasure
&
pleasure
,
when
you
shal
haue
better
thoght
vpon
it
,
or
better
enformed
your self
about
the
matter
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
accept
of
that
libertie
,
but
in
the
meane
tyme
I
must
tel
you
that
I
must
yet
put
you
to
your
trumpes
,
about
the
greatest
and
moste
important
cause
of
Queen
Elizabethes
&
our
nations
fauouring
&
assisting
the
Hollanders
,
which
was
the
cause
of
religion
,
they
professing
with
vs
,
one
same
Ghospel
.
Red-scarf
.
I
doubt
whether
they
professe
with
vs
one
same
Epistle
,
but
one
same
Ghospel
I
am
sure
they
professe
not
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
pray
what
differs
their
Ghospel
from
ours
?
Red-scarf
.
Is
there
no
difference
between
Protestants
and
Puritanes
?
Tawney-scarf
.
Not
much
.
Red-scarf
.
Why
haue
wee
then
so
much
contended
about
so
litle
a
difference
?
why
haue
so
manie
bookes
bin
written
by
those
of
the
one
and
the
other
syde
,
one
against
another
?
why
restraints
of
preaching
?
why
imprisonment
of
somanie
of
the
bretheren
?
why
punishments
with
death
and
exile
?
Tawney-scarf
.
I
graunt
you
,
some
seditious
and
vurulie
tounged
fellowes
haue
smarted
.
Red-scarf
.
Had
it
bin
wel
donne
to
defend
such
?
Tawney-scarf
.
No.
Red-scarf
.
More
then
such
our
countrimen
defend
in
Holland
,
for
your
Gomarists
in
Holland
those
I
meane
that
are
of
the
States
peculiar
religion
,
are
more
seditious
and
vurulie
tounged
followes
then
are
our
English
Gomarists
,
I
meane
our
Puritanes
,
who
are
iust
of
the
same
inward
illumination
of
spirit
,
as
are
their
deerest
bretheren
the
Gomarists
of
Holland
,
differing
onlie
in
name
,
but
not
in
mynde
or
nature
.
Heer
at
home
you
seeme
not
willing
to
defend
such
vurulie
tounged
fellowes
,
&
yet
you
go
from
hence
into
Holland
to
fight
for
them
,
But
these
fellowes
are
yet
more
vurulie
tounged
then
our
Puritanes
,
for
they
go
farther
then
to
the
making
of
Pettie
Popes
,
and
Pettie
Antichristes
of
our
Bishops
,
Seeing
they
wil
make
whosoeuer
it
bee
beeing
a
mortal
creature
,
&
taking
vpon
him
the
name
or
title
of
Supreame
head
,
or
gouernor
of
the
Churche
,
to
bee
no
lesse
then
an
Idol
,
and
those
that
giue
vnto
him
such
title
,
to
bee
no
lesse
than
Idolaters
,
Behold
what
one
same
Ghospel
this
is
with
the
Ghospel
of
Queen
Elizabeth
,
seeing
the
Hollanders
thereby
,
do
make
herself
an
Idol
,
and
all
her
clergie
and
magistrates
Idolaters
,
and
I
pray
consider
whether
pietie
or
conscience
could
moue
her
to
defend
that
Ghospel
and
religion
abroad
,
which
shee
persecuted
at
home
,
as
holding
it
to
bee
vngodly
&
seditious
,
marck
but
the
absurditie
heerof
.
But
how
had
Queen
Elizabeth
seen
her self
rewarded
if
these
,
good
Ghospellers
had
in
her
tyme
so
wyde
opened
their
budget
as
to
let
her
see
their
making
making
of
herself
an
Idol
,
&
her
prelates
who
Puritanes
did
but
make
Pettie
Popes
&
pettie
Antichristes
,
to
bee
no
better
then
Idolaters
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
pray
let
vs
alter
our
discours
,
and
talck
no
more
of
these
matters
.
Red-scarf
.
That
in
deed
is
the
best
remedie
to
auoyd
reply
vnto
a
matter
,
wherevnto
no
reply
can
bee
found
,
But
I
pray
giue
mee
leaue
to
end
the
matter
I
am
about
,
and
then
wee
will
fall
to
what
other
discours
you
wil.
Fawney-scarf
.
Me
thinkes
their
hath
enough
alredie
bin
sayd
to
turne
a
mannes
appetyt
from
Holland
cheese
.
Red-scarf
.
But
I
am
verie
desyrous
to
let
you
vnderstand
the
effects
of
your
endeuours
,
to
the
end
you
may
the
more
esteeme
the
value
of
your
deserts
.
And
perhaps
I
may
say
somthing
that
the
companie
heer
present
,
hath
not
as
yet
heard
of
,
&
therefore
may
out
of
curisositie
receaue
contentment
therein
.
Tawney-scarf
.
Mee
thinkes
you
cannot
say
woors
of
the
Hollanders
then
you
haue
alredie
donne
&
therefore
,
the
best
may
follow
,
seeing
the
woorst
is
gon
before
.
Red-scarf
.
Bee
it
better
or
bee
it
woors
you
may
please
to
accept
of
it
as
it
is
,
seeing
it
is
the
residue
remayning
behynd
&
belonging
to
the
former
matter
.
You
must
vnderstand
that
I
am
not
ignorant
,
that
manie
of
our
nation
who
deuote
themselues
,
to
the
seruice
of
the
Hollanders
,
think
their
endeuours
directly
employed
for
the
maintenance
of
one
same
religion
with
that
of
England
,
wherein
I
haue
heer
cleerly
prooued
them
to
bee
deceaued
,
But
now
will
I
go
further
,
and
as
cleerly
prooue
vnto
you
that
you
do
aswell
defend
Lutheranisme
,
Anabaptisme
,
and
Iudaisme
,
as
the
Holland
Religion
,
that
you
supposed
to
haue
bin
all
one
with
yours
.
You
must
consider
that
the
Holland
rebelles
at
the
beginning
of
their
rebellion
to
the
end
they
might
fortefy
themselues
with
all
sortes
and
sectes
,
made
open
profession
that
according
to
the
Ghospel
,
all
men
oght
to
haue
their
consciences
free
,
and
that
no
man
for
his
religion
oght
to
bee
called
in
question
or
troobled
,
by
meanes
whereof
the
religions
and
beliefs
in
Holland
▪
are
grown
to
bee
infinit
,
euerie
man
making
choyce
to
bee
of
what
religion
hee
list
,
and
if
hee
list
not
chuse
anie
of
the
rel●giōs
that
are
alredie
made
to
his
had
,
hee
may
make
one
of
his
own
deuysing
,
and
draw
as
manie
vnto
it
as
hee
can
,
&
hee
may
leaue
it
of
and
make
or
chuse
another
in
steed
thereof
,
or
leaue
all
religious
and
bee
of
none
if
he
please
,
and
boldly
make
his
profession
so
to
bee
:
But
the
high
Powerfull
Lordes
the
States
,
notwithstanding
they
allow
all
this
freedome
to
the
generalitie
,
yet
they
allow
free
exercise
of
religion
,
but
to
the
fowre
sortes
afore-named
,
to
wit
,
to
the
profession
of
their
own
,
Geus
or
Caluinian
religion
,
To
that
of
the
Lutherans
to
that
of
the
Anabaptists
,
&
to
that
of
the
Synagogue
of
the
Iewes
,
none
of
all
which
relig●ons
beeing
allowed
in
England
▪
but
beeing
by
authoritie
of
the
States
allowed
in
Holland
whosoever
employeth
himself
in
defence
of
that
vsurped
State
&
Gournment
doth
consequently
defend
these
fowre
different
religious
,
&
aswel
all
fowre
as
anie
one
.
He
defendeth
that
Caluinisme
,
that
maketh
either
Prelate
or
Prince
that
hath
the
title
of
Supreame
headship
or
Gouernment
of
the
Churche
,
to
bee
an
Idol
.
Hee
defendeth
Lutheranisme
that
holdeth
the
real
presence
of
Christe
to
bee
in
the
Sacrament
,
euen
the
verie
same
bodie
that
was
borne
of
the
blessed
Virgin
Marie
,
Hee
defendeth
Anabaptisme
that
holdeth
it
vnlawfull
to
Baptise
children
,
and
among
other
heresies
teacheth
that
Christe
took
no
flesh
of
the
Virgin
Marie
.
And
hee
defendeth
Iudaisme
that
denyeth
our
Sauiour
Christe
to
bee
the
true
Messias
and
Sauiour
of
the
world
,
for
if
by
force
of
armes
the
state
of
these
States
were
not
defended
,
these
different
sectes
could
haue
in
Holland
no
allowance
of
free
exercise
of
religion
.
Now
besydes
these
allowed
exercising
sectes
,
there
is
the
late
risen
sect
of
the
Pe
fectists
,
which
as
it
seemeth
needeth
no
leaue
or
allowance
of
exercise
,
because
it
is
come
to
such
perfection
that
it
is
past
exercise
.
These
bee
such
as
haue
bin
great
travailers
in
the
woord
,
and
continual
goers
to
sermons
,
and
fynding
that
S.
Paule
speaketh
,
of
some
that
are
alwayes
learning
,
and
neuer
attayning
vnto
the
knowledge
of
the
truthe
,
they
wil
not
bee
accompted
such
truants
or
non
proficientes
,
as
stil
to
haue
need
of
teaching
and
instruction
,
they
perceaue
by
their
inward
illumination
of
spirit
,
that
they
are
come
to
the
rypenes
of
perfection
,
they
haue
made
trial
thereof
by
their
examining
one
another
,
aswell
about
the
exposition
of
textes
,
as
of
their
text-fastnes
in
citing
chapter
and
verse
without
mistaking
it
,
as
redelie
,
yea
and
some
tymes
more
redelie
then
the
Preacher
himself
,
whereby
they
see
themselues
somuch
to
haue
profited
,
that
they
haue
no
need
to
run
vp
and
down
after
sermon-makers
,
but
leaue
them
to
the
instructing
&
teaching
of
the
ignorant
.
These
now
and
then
meet
together
among
themselues
,
and
consolate
one
another
in
the
Lord
,
with
singing
of
Psalmes
,
&
discoursing
out
of
the
woord
,
according
to
the
perfection
&
greatnes
of
their
knowledge
.
Where
are
our
poor
Puritanes
in
respect
of
these
,
that
all
the
dayes
of
their
lyues
run
vnsatisfied
with
sermon-hearing
,
behold
how
these
Holland
bretheren
haue
gotten
the
start
of
them
,
and
leaue
them
to
remayn
the
perpetual
prentises
of
their
sermon-makers
.
Tawney-scarf
.
Mee
thinkes
you
haue
drawn
out
the
reconiug
of
my
seruice
,
which
is
greater
then
my self
vnderstood
it
to
bee
.
Red-scarf
.
Greater
but
not
better
,
for
I
suppose
you
vnderstood
it
not
to
bee
so
il
,
but
beeing
so
good
as
you
supposed
it
,
to
wit
to
bee
employed
in
defence
of
the
Ghospel
,
it
could
bee
but
bad
,
because
no
good
Ghospel
can
allow
stealing
.
Tawney
scarf
.
No
more
doth
that
,
for
they
hang
thieues
as
wel
in
Holland
as
they
do
in
England
.
Red-scarf
.
Thieues
that
steal
try
fles
are
there
hanged
by
thieues
that
steal
whole
prouinces
&
citties
,
so
as
they
are
not
hanged
because
they
steal
,
but
because
they
steal
not
fion
the
King
of
Spayn
,
as
thogh
it
were
honester
theft
,
for
a
man
to
robbe
his
master
,
then
to
robbe
another
man
.
Tawney-scarf
.
You
haue
exceedingly
disgraced
my
seruice
.
Red-scarf
.
Not
with
intention
to
disgrace
your self
,
but
to
let
you
see
how
vniust
and
wrong
a
cours
both
you
and
others
take
,
to
the
end
that
knowing
it
,
you
&
they
may
relinquish
it
,
and
make
choyce
of
a
cours
more
agreable
to
your
woorthinesses
and
valour
.
Tawney-scarf
.
But
now
Sir
I
must
tel
you
concerning
your
choyce
of
seruice
,
that
if
wee
had
one
of
our
preachers
heer
,
hee
would
tel
you
that
it
were
in
desence
of
Idolatrie
.
Red
scarf
.
If
hee
did
so
,
and
could
prooue
it
so
,
I
would
aske
God
forgiuenes
&
leaue
it
,
but
that
is
hee
not
able
to
prooue
.
Tawney-scarf
.
Hee
would
tel
you
that
you
woorshiped
bread
in
the
Masse
,
for
the
bodie
of
Christe
.
Red-scarf
.
If
wee
so
did
,
that
were
Idolatrie
in
deed
.
Wee
do
not
in
anie
sorte
intend
anie
woorship
vnto
bread
,
all
the
deuotion
woorship
and
honor
which
there
wee
doe
,
is
meerly
&
sincerly
intended
vnto
the
true
bodie
of
Christ
,
the
which
if
it
should
not
bee
there
,
then
is
there
no
woorship
or
honor
at
all
by
vs
intended
,
But
our
warrant
for
the
beeing
thereof
there
,
is
so
great
that
it
is
not
deryued
from
the
mouth
of
anie
mortall
man
,
but
euen
from
the
verie
mouth
of
him
that
is
Christe
and
God
,
who
cannot
possiblie
deceaue
vs
,
neither
can
his
power
bee
insufficient
to
make
good
his
own
woordes
,
and
if
it
were
possible
that
it
could
bee
but
bread
,
yet
hee
having
sayd
it
was
his
bodie
and
I
belieuing
it
so
to
bee
,
his
●ustice
&
goodnes
is
such
that
hee
cannot
condemne
mee
of
misbelief
,
himself
having
bin
the
cause
why
I
so
belieue
,
for
if
hee
neuer
had
sayd
it
,
I
had
neuer
belieued
it
.
I
can
do
Christe
no
greater
honor
then
to
giue
credit
vnto
his
woordes
,
nor
no
greater
dishonor
then
not
to
belieue
them
to
bee
veritable
.
Tawney-scarf
.
But
Sir
,
our
Learned
men
say
that
Christes
woordes
at
his
last
supper
oght
otherwise
to
bee
interpreted
,
&
not
vnderstood
as
hee
there
spake
them
,
but
that
in
saying
the
bread
was
his
bodie
,
hee
intended
to
haue
it
vnderstood
to
bee
the
signe
or
figure
of
his
bodie
.
Red-scarf
.
They
that
pretend
to
prooue
all
their
doctrine
by
scripture
,
do
consequently
oblige
themselues
to
shew
vs
wherein
scripture
it
is
sayd
that
Christe
ment
it
for
the
signe
or
figure
of
his
bodie
?
If
they
haue
this
knowlege
by
inward
illumination
,
how
can
they
let
vs
know
that
it
is
of
God
?
Tawney-fcarf
.
I
do
not
remembr
to
haue
heard
anie
text
of
Scripture
alleaged
for
it
.
And
for
inward
illuminations
I
know
not
what
to
say
.
Red-scarf
.
That
Christe
ment
it
for
the
figure
of
his
bodie
is
Caluinistical
&
Anabaptistical
scripture
,
made
without
book
,
but
in
sacred
scripture
not
to
bee
found
,
&
as
for
their
inward
illuminations
what
can
they
bee
other
than
such
dreames
as
all
other
sectaries
are
as
full
of
as
they
,
&
can
say
aswel
as
they
,
that
they
had
them
from
aboue
&
perhapsly
not
altogether
neither
,
for
it
may
bee
that
such
fancies
came
in
their
heades
when
they
were
in
their
garrets
.
And
yet
was
the
inward
illumination
of
Loy
the
Slater
of
Antwerp
in
lyklyhood
more
higher
,
for
hee
(
as
hee
sayd
)
had
his
as
he
sat
aboue
on
the
top
of
a
hows
couering
it
with
slate
,
and
it
was
,
that
there
were
no
devilles
,
no
hel
,
nor
no
resurrection
of
the
dead
,
and
that
Christe
&
his
Apostles
,
mentioning
such
thinges
,
ment
otherwise
than
they
spake
,
and
in
this
his
illumination
hee
was
so
confident
,
that
the
light
of
burning
fire
,
wherein
himself
was
cosumed
,
could
not
put
him
out
of
his
opinion
.
And
seeing
you
confesse
not
to
haue
heard
anie
text
alleaged
that
maketh
this
Sacrament
a
figure
of
Christe
his
bodie
,
nor
anie
proof
or
reason
to
oblige
belief
of
imagined
illuminations
,
I
wil
now
shew
you
by
playn
scripture
that
Christ
himself
could
not
meane
it
to
bee
the
figure
of
his
bodie
.
Tawney-scarf
.
If
you
do
that
you
do
much
.
Red-scarf
.
I
pray
you
then
Sir
tel
mee
,
was
it
the
figure
of
Christe
his
bodie
that
was
crucifyed
for
vs
on
the
Crosse
,
or
was
it
his
true
bodie
?
Tawney-scarf
.
It
was
without
all
doubt
his
true
bodie
.
Red-scarf
.
Then
must
without
all
doubt
his
true
bodie
bee
in
this
Sacrament
,
seeing
Christ
sayd
:
Take
and
eat
this
is
my
bodie
which
shal
be
giuen
for
you
,
&c.
and
that
no
figure
was
giuen
for
vs
.
Tawney-scarf
.
There
by
the
Lord
,
you
haue
posed
mee
in
deed
.
Red-scarf
.
But
I
wil
yet
go
further
with
you
,
sure
I
am
that
none
of
the
disciples
of
Christ
that
were
present
at
the
speaking
of
those
woordes
,
do
assigne
vs
to
the
seeking
out
of
some
other
meaning
,
if
this
had
bin
requisite
themselues
had
known
it
best
,
&
could
best
haue
bin
the
interpreters
,
&
so
without
all
doubt
would
haue
bin
,
if
the
intention
of
Christe
had
bin
such
,
for
neuer
would
they
haue
letten
all
ensuying
Christians
of
the
world
as
well
of
the
Greek
as
of
the
Latin
Churche
and
all
others
,
haue
run
on
in
the
belieuing
his
woordes
as
they
were
spoken
,
vntill
hee
should
send
new
teachers
into
the
world
to
interpreet
his
meaning
fifteen
hundreth
yeares
after
they
were
spoken
,
which
cannot
stand
with
the
prouidence
and
goodnes
of
God
,
But
to
the
contrarie
that
no
such
interpretation
was
by
God
intended
,
is
cleerly
manifested
to
all
the
world
,
by
the
confusion
which
hee
hath
permitted
to
bee
among
the
interpreters
,
the
one
interpreting
his
woordes
one
way
,
the
other
another
way
,
&
so
contrarie
&
discordant
that
no
reconciliation
can
bring
them
to
haue
one
same
understanding
of
Christ
his
meaning
,
And
therefore
remayn
they
to
their
own
shame
and
confusion
in
perpetuall
discord
,
giuing
in
effect
the
one
the
other
the
ly
about
the
matter
,
and
challenging
one
another
to
the
weapon
of
the
woord
,
euen
to
the
killing
and
sleaing
of
soules
.
I
haue
aduentured
heer
to
say
thusmuch
notwithstanding
I
am
no
diuine
,
because
you
should
vnderstand
how
farre
Catholykes
are
from
the
moste
abhominable
sin
of
Idolatrie
,
And
I
must
further
note
vnto
you
the
absurditie
of
this
calumnie
:
Idolatrie
did
alwayes
consist
in
the
offring
vp
of
Sacrifise
to
Idoles
,
but
by
the
making
of
Catholikes
Idolaters
they
do
make
the
Sacrifise
it self
,
which
they
offer
vp
,
to
bee
an
Idol
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
perceaue
you
would
seeme
to
haue
bin
to
heard
for
mee
if
I
should
giue
you
ouer
so
,
But
I
must
now
demaund
further
of
you
,
whether
Protestants
or
Papists
go
neerer
to
the
manner
of
Christ
his
celebrating
this
Sacrament
,
Christe
I
am
sure
both
instituted
and
celebrated
it
at
a
table
,
but
not
at
an
Altar
,
as
you
doe
,
and
therefore
you
varie
and
differ
from
Christe
,
and
this
beeing
so
manifest
,
it
is
consequently
manifest
,
that
heer
I
haue
put
you
down
,
for
this
you
cannot
deny
.
Red-scarf
.
I
haue
alredie
told
you
that
I
am
no
diuine
,
and
I
had
not
thought
to
haue
bin
by
you
put
to
defend
matter
of
religion
,
but
seeing
you
haue
again
put
mee
to
it
,
and
that
you
think
you
haue
put
mee
down
about
it
.
If
I
cannot
recouer
my self
I
suppose
you
wil
triumphe
and
trample
vpon
mee
.
True
it
is
that
Christe
instituted
and
celebrated
this
B.
Sacrament
vpon
a
table
,
and
not
vpon
an
Altar
,
and
Protestants
do
also
celebrate
their
communion
vpon
a
table
,
wherein
they
shew
themselues
to
teach
and
controlle
their
Patriarche
Luther
,
who
celebrated
his
communion
vpon
an
Altar
,
as
all
his
truest
followes
in
Germanie
continew
to
do
,
as
also
their
anceters
the
Hussytes
of
Bohemia
,
and
yet
did
both
Husse
and
Luther
,
assure
them selues
to
haue
penetrated
as
farre
into
the
woord
as
Caluinian-Protestants
,
and
Anabaptists
can
assure
themselues
to
do
,
no
Christians
in
the
world
vsing
tables
in
steed
of
Altars
but
onelie
they
,
nor
none
denying
the
real
presence
of
Christein
that
Sacrament
but
they
,
and
their
dependants
.
But
now
as
touching
your
Protestants
celebrating
vpon
a
table
,
to
the
end
you
may
discouer
how
truely
they
imitate
Christe
I
must
discouer
vnto
you
a
notable
trick
of
fraud
of
theirs
(
if
I
may
bee
so
bold
as
call
it
so
)
which
is
,
that
they
make
a
shew
of
exactly
imitating
Christe
his
manner
of
dooing
,
by
the
vse
of
tables
&
not
Altars
,
to
deceaue
the
ignorant
multitude
,
but
they
deny
the
veritie
of
Christe
his
woordes
in
the
principalle
matter
of
faith
which
vnto
this
Sacrament
is
belonging
,
which
is
no
pettie
peece
of
coosinage
,
and
moste
farre
from
the
true
imitation
of
Christe
,
seeing
faith
and
belief
importeth
more
then
a
shew
of
obseruing
his
manner
of
dooing
in
the
onely
vse
of
a
table
.
The
cause
and
reason
why
Christe
celebrated
on
a
table
,
and
not
vpon
an
Altar
,
was
because
hee
had
supped
at
the
same
table
,
&
after
hee
had
supped
he
there
celebrated
this
Sacrament
,
having
purposely
referred
it
for
the
last
and
moste
principall
action
which
hee
would
performe
in
the
presence
of
his
disciples
before
his
passion
.
But
if
Protestants
would
professe
herein
to
follow
Christe
ptecysely
,
them
must
they
not
celebrate
their
communion
vpon
hows-tables
,
in
Churches
,
seeing
Christe
did
not
so
,
but
vpon
hows-tables
in
priuate
howses
,
&
in
paued
parlers
of
such
howses
.
It
must
also
bee
at
night
&
after
supper
,
at
which
supper
they
must
haue
eaten
a
roasted
Lamb.
There
must
also
bee
neither
more
nor
lesse
then
thirteene
persons
at
the
table
,
and
these
must
bee
all
men
,
for
Christe
had
not
one
woman
present
at
his
celebration
.
There
must
neither
Ghospel
nor
Epistle
bee
red
,
for
when
Christe
celebrated
they
were
not
written
,
Geneua
songes
must
not
thear
bee
sung
,
but
the
Hymne
(
if
Protestant
reformation
can
produce
it
)
must
bee
repeated
,
which
was
sayd
before
hee
and
his
disciples
rose
from
the
table
.
But
it
now
appeereth
that
Protestants
,
make
a
shew
of
imitating
Christe
onlie
in
the
vse
of
a
hows-table
,
and
omitt
all
the
rest
,
which
is
but
an
imitation
by
peece
meal
,
taking
and
leaving
,
what
they
list
,
at
their
own
pleasures
And
I
dare
confidently
avouch
,
that
if
anie
Sermon-maker
in
England
should
in
his
pulpit
vrge
the
vse
of
all
these
omitted
thinges
,
for
the
more
exact
following
of
Christ
,
wherein
must
also
bee
comprysed
his
girding
himself
with
a
towel
and
his
washing
his
communicants
feet
,
hee
should
bee
exactly
punished
for
his
labor
,
and
thus
may
you
see
what
is
become
of
your
making
a
hows-table
a
Churche-table
.
Tawney-scarf
.
But
say
you
what
you
can
,
you
cannot
deny
but
Christe
vsed
a
table
and
not
an
Altar
,
and
therefore
wee
imitate
Christ
more
them
you
.
Red-scarf
.
You
make
a
shew
to
imitate
Christe
,
and
it
is
but
in
the
onlie
vse
of
a
table
,
which
is
as
it
were
but
a
couer
to
hyde
your
deuiall
of
the
veritie
of
the
chiefest
matter
of
faith
,
and
why
do
you
not
imitate
the
rest
which
heere
I
haue
mentioned
as
wel
as
onlie
the
table
,
seing
you
should
better
imitate
Christe
in
his
whole
manner
of
dooing
then
in
a
parte
thereof
?
or
can
you
shew
mee
where
you
were
appointed
to
imitate
him
in
the
vse
of
a
hows-table
,
and
not
in
the
rest
,
nor
in
the
Sacrament
of
Baptisme
as
wel
as
in
this
one
thing
of
his
supper
,
Christ
was
baptised
in
a
riuer
,
why
baptise
you
not
also
in
riuers
,
vpon
what
warrant
vse
you
Fontes
in
Churches
more
then
Altars
.
But
now
must
I
go
further
with
you
seeing
you
haue
put
mee
to
it
,
and
tel
you
of
another
Communion
fraud
,
and
I
pray
you
note
it
.
Your
Protestant
minister
in
his
administring
his
communion
vseth
these
woordes
,
to
his
communicant
.
vidz
.
The
bodie
of
our
Lord
Iesus
Christe
which
was
giuen
for
thee
,
preserue
thy
body
and
soule
into
euerlasting
lyf
,
And
take
and
eat
this
in
remenbrance
that
Christe
dred
sor
thee
,
and
feed
on
him
in
thy
heart
by
faith
with
thancks-giuing
.
I
demaund
now
of
you
whether
Christe
be
truelie
imitated
heer
in
or
no.
Or
whether
these
woordes
heer
by
the
Minister
spoken
,
are
the
same
woords
that
Christ
him self
did
speak
?
Tawney-scarf
.
Did
not
Christe
say
vnto
his
Apostles
,
Take
&
eat
this
in
remenbrance
of
mee
.
Red-scarf
.
No
Sir
.
Tawney-scarf
.
Wil
you
deny
that
?
Red-scarf
.
I
cannot
but
deny
it
,
because
Christe
did
not
so
speak
.
Tawney-scarf
.
How
spake
hee
then
?
Red-scarf
.
Hee
sayd
vnto
his
Disciples
when
hee
had
taken
bread
&
blessed
it
Take
and
eat
this
is
my
bodie
,
&c.
and
having
sayd
this
,
them
sayd
hee
further
,
Do
this
in
commemoration
of
mee
.
The
Apostles
were
willed
heer
to
do
two
thinges
,
the
one
was
,
To
eat
the
Bodie
of
Christe
,
the
other
was
to
do
this
in
commemoration
of
him
,
by
the
first
precept
they
did
eat
the
Bodie
of
Christe
,
by
the
second
,
in
Christ
his
saying
Do
this
,
they
had
power
and
authoritie
giuen
them
to
do
afterward
as
Christ
there
then
did
,
that
is
,
to
take
bread
to
blesse
it
,
to
pronounce
his
sacred
woords
ouer
it
,
thereby
to
make
it
become
his
bodie
,
and
to
administer
it
vnto
others
as
hee
had
administred
it
vnto
them
,
and
to
do
or
sacrifise
this
,
in
commemoration
of
him
,
for
if
this
later
precept
had
not
bin
giuen
the
celebration
of
this
Sacrament
had
not
bin
continued
by
the
Apostles
&
their
successors
,
but
had
onlie
bin
there
at
that
tyme
performed
by
Christ
&
so
haue
ceassed
.
Thus
may
you
see
what
a
notable
trick
of
Caluinistical
falsitie
it
is
,
to
abuse
the
people
by
confounding
the
woordes
of
Christe
in
saying
in
steed
of
his
woorde
Take
and
eat
this
is
my
bodie
,
And
Do
this
in
commemoration
of
mee
,
to
say
,
Take
and
eat
this
in
remembrance
of
mee
,
which
Christ
sayd
not
,
but
they
as
if
hee
had
so
sayd
,
do
thereby
consequently
inferre
that
hee
did
say
and
vnsay
,
or
as
if
his
saying
,
Do
this
in
remembrance
of
mee
,
which
they
falsify
,
and
make
to
bee
Eat
this
in
remembrance
of
mee
,
did
wholie
dysanul
and
take
away
the
whole
effect
of
his
former
woordes
which
were
,
Take
and
eat
this
it
my
bodie
,
&c.
which
is
to
make
Christe
to
haue
spoken
those
woords
friuolously
and
to
no
purpose
,
for
if
Christ
intended
not
this
his
blessed
&
consecrated
bread
to
bee
his
bodie
to
what
end
spake
hee
those
woordes
?
what
edification
could
they
yeeld
?
why
might
they
not
aswel
or
better
haue
bin
left
vnspoken
?
And
why
might
hee
not
more
directly
and
cleerly
haue
sayd
at
the
first
.
Take
and
eat
this
bread
in
remembrance
of
mee
,
or
as
a
signe
or
figure
of
my
bodie
,
this
had
bin
better
fitting
for
the
forming
of
a
Protestant
communion
,
if
hee
had
intended
it
,
But
Protestants
to
come
now
so
long
after
,
to
make
Christe
a
sayer
and
an
vnsayer
,
to
bee
hild
vnpowrable
to
performe
so
much
as
he
sayd
,
or
to
haue
spoken
friuolously
and
to
no
purpose
,
can
no
way
stand
with
Christian
pietie
,
nor
confident
faith
in
Christe
.
Tawney
scarf
.
By
the
Lord
you
put
mee
to
it
stil
,
but
I
must
for
all
that
haue
about
with
you
concerning
another
matter
.
You
vse
to
woorship
Images
and
by
woorshiping
them
you
make
Idolles
of
them
.
Red-scarf
.
By
this
reason
they
that
do
reuerence
vnto
the
Kinges
chaire
of
State
,
do
there
of
make
an
Idol
allo
.
But
you
must
vnderstand
that
as
the
sound
of
woordes
entring
at
the
eare
do
reuyne
memorie
in
the
mynde
,
of
the
thing
which
by
the
sound
is
intended
,
so
is
memorie
no
lesse
reuyued
by
the
sight
of
the
eye
,
and
as
at
the
hearing
of
the
name
of
Iesus
,
the
mynd
is
stirred
vp
to
a
deuout
remembrance
and
reuerence
of
him
,
so
is
the
mynd
by
the
sight
of
his
Image
,
stirred
vp
in
lyke
manner
.
And
heer
by
the
way
,
because
it
is
not
impertinent
to
the
purpose
,
I
must
alleage
vnto
you
a
late
example
somwhat
concerning
this
purpose
,
An
English
servingman
coming
ouer
out
of
England
to
Antwerp
&
beholding
in
the
principall
street
of
the
cittie
the
Image
of
Christe
on
the
Crosse
,
stood
on
the
suddayn
,
amased
as
it
were
,
at
the
sight
thereof
,
&
supposing
it
(
as
it
should
seeme
)
to
haue
bin
the
dead
bodie
of
some
malefactor
newly
executed
(
it
beeing
painted
ouer
with
a
pale
dead
colour
)
demaunded
of
one
that
was
with
him
,
what
that
man
had
donne
that
was
so
nayled
vp
there
,
but
when
the
other
told
him
it
was
the
Image
of
Christe
,
representing
vnto
the
view
of
Christians
his
crucifying
and
death
on
the
Crosse
,
for
the
redemption
of
the
world
,
hee
confessed
that
hee
had
heard
it
preached
that
Christ
was
crucifyed
,
but
hee
knew
not
for
all
that
what
crucifying
ment
,
nor
did
hee
euer
apprehend
it
as
now
at
the
sight
of
the
Image
hee
was
moued
to
doe
.
I
make
no
doubt
but
this
man
had
heard
sermons
in
England
more
than
enoughe
&
yet
was
hee
with
all
his
Sermon-hearing
such
a
Christian
,
as
neither
knew
nor
apprehended
how
Christe
had
dyed
for
his
saluation
.
You
may
heerby
iudge
of
the
vtillitie
of
the
Schoole
wherein
hee
had
had
his
education
,
and
of
the
requisytnes
of
such
representations
to
the
view
of
Christian
people
,
and
therefore
with
no
litle
reason
did
that
great
and
godly
Doctor
S.
Augustine
(
as
did
also
other
ancient
&
holie
Doctors
terme
the
Images
of
Christe
&
his
saintes
,
the
books
of
lay
people
where
by
you
may
see
that
these
men
were
no
good
protestants
,
for
had
they
so
bin
,
they
would
haue
defaced
&
broken
them
,
&
slaundered
them
with
the
fals
imputation
of
beeing
Idolles
.
Beeing
then
as
heere
hath
bin
shewed
,
ordayned
for
representations
&
memories
of
Christe
and
his
saints
no
reuerence
is
donne
at
the
sight
of
them
,
as
meerly
intended
to
the
Images
themselues
,
but
euer
intending
Christ
or
his
saints
or
friends
which
such
Images
may
represent
,
for
when
the
woman
troobled
with
the
flux
had
a
desyre
to
touch
the
Hemme
of
Christe
his
garment
it
was
not
because
shee
thoght
the
garment
of
it self
could
do
her
good
,
but
because
shee
thoght
that
vertue
by
that
meanes
might
come
from
Christ
vnto
her
,
and
yet
may
this
deed
of
this
woman
seem
according
to
the
doctrine
of
Protestants
to
bee
an
act
of
Idolatrie
,
no
lesse
then
the
woorship
of
an
Image
,
which
Christ
(
not
beeing
protestantly
conceyted
)
approoued
farre
otherwise
,
both
by
curing
her
,
and
comending
the
greatnes
of
her
faith
.
You
must
also
vnderstand
that
Sacrifice
was
by
Pagans
offred
vnto
Idolles
,
incense
was
burut
vpon
their
Alters
,
and
it
was
death
by
pagan
lawes
to
refuse
to
do
it
,
But
somuch
as
the
dooing
of
reuerence
vnto
an
Image
among
Christians
,
is
not
comaunded
,
nor
is
it
taken
for
scandall
to
pas
by
an
Image
&
not
to
do
reuerence
vnto
it
,
but
left
to
euerie
mannes
own
discretion
according
as
his
mynd
is
stirred
vp
to
some
deuout
cogitation
,
which
by
the
sight
of
the
Image
hee
may
bee
moued
vnto
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
must
confesse
your
woordes
carrie
sence
in
them
,
and
that
I
neuer
heard
those
reasons
before
,
But
there
resteth
yet
one
thing
,
that
I
must
haue
about
with
you
for
,
wherein
I
think
you
wil
bee
put
to
your
trumpes
to
the
full
.
Red-scarf
.
If
I
then
fynd
not
trumps
enough
wherewith
to
defend
my self
,
my
defect
of
trumpes
,
will
become
your
triumphe
.
Tawney-scarf
.
Then
Sir
,
I
must
demaund
of
you
,
with
what
proof
of
Scripture
or
shew
of
reason
men
may
bee
perswaded
to
belieue
that
such
as
are
mortal
men
and
sinners
themselues
,
can
forgiue
the
sinnes
of
other
men
.
And
strange
it
is
that
so
manie
can
bee
made
such
fooles
as
on
their
knees
vnto
a
priest
to
vtter
the
verie
secrets
of
their
soules
and
consciences
,
yea
and
perhaps
somtymes
to
declare
such
sinnes
vnto
him
,
as
themselues
after
they
haue
donne
them
,
are
ashamed
to
thinck
on
.
Red-scarf
.
I
remember
to
haue
red
,
that
the
Iewes
vpon
Christe
his
forgiuing
of
one
his
sinnes
,
sayd
,
that
none
could
forgiue
sinnes
but
God
onlie
.
True
in
deed
it
is
,
that
no
mortall
man
of
his
own
authoritie
,
can
pardon
sinnes
,
yet
having
commission
from
God
to
do
it
,
why
may
hee
not
then
doe
it
?
vnles
you
wil
say
it
is
not
in
the
power
of
God
to
giue
him
power
to
do
it
,
and
that
you
will
limit
God
to
vse
no
ministers
vnder
him
for
the
executing
of
his
will
,
but
wil
haue
him
doe
all
himself
.
But
that
it
hath
pleased
our
Saviour
Christe
to
giue
such
,
power
and
authoritie
to
men
,
is
manifest
by
his
breathing
vpon
his
Apostles
,
and
saying
,
Receaue
the
holie
Ghoste
,
whose
sinnes
you
shall
forgiue
,
they
are
forgiuen
,
and
whose
sinnes
you
shal
retayn
,
they
are
retayned
I
pray
tel
mee
now
whether
you
think
the
Apostles
by
this
authoritie
giuen
them
by
Christe
,
had
power
to
forgiue
sinnes
or
not
?
Tawney-scarf
.
Mee
thinkes
I
must
confesse
they
had
.
Red
scarf
.
Having
authoritie
then
to
forgiue
sinnes
,
do
you
think
they
did
vse
it
?
Tawney-scarf
.
It
may
bee
they
did
.
Red-scarf
.
Wee
must
make
it
a
cleer
case
that
they
so
did
,
for
if
they
did
not
,
then
did
Christe
giue
them
a
frivolous
commission
,
or
themselues
committed
a
great
fault
in
neglecting
to
execute
his
will
,
b●t
it
were
impietie
to
think
that
either
Christe
would
giue
a
friuolous
commission
,
or
that
his
Disciples
would
neglect
the
execution
thereof
.
Tawney-scarf
.
Admit
that
Christe
gaue
them
such
authoritie
,
and
that
they
executed
it
,
is
it
therefore
sayd
,
that
Priests
should
haue
it
now
?
Red-scarf
.
If
such
power
and
grace
had
onlie
bin
giuen
by
Christe
to
his
Apostles
,
and
was
not
to
remayn
from
them
vnto
their
successors
,
then
could
no
bodie
haue
reaped
benefit
thereby
,
but
such
as
lyued
in
the
tyme
of
the
Apostles
,
and
were
conuersant
with
them
,
and
so
should
all
other
ensuing
Christians
haue
remayned
depryued
,
of
this
grace
and
benefit
,
but
so
to
think
were
also
impietie
.
When
Christe
gaue
his
Apostles
commission
to
go
ouer
all
the
world
to
preach
and
Baptise
,
I
suppose
you
wil
not
say
that
hee
intended
not
that
their
successors
should
also
preache
and
baptise
.
If
hee
intended
they
should
,
as
I
make
no
doubt
,
you
will
confesse
,
why
should
hee
not
also
intend
the
authoritie
of
forgiuenes
of
sinnes
vnto
the
successors
of
the
Apostles
,
to
the
end
that
after-coming
Christians
might
aswell
enioy
that
grace
and
benefit
,
as
those
that
lyued
in
the
tyme
of
the
Apostles
,
or
shew
where
the
one
was
called
in
or
prohibited
,
and
the
other
not
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
feare
mee
I
shall
faile
of
my
expected
victorie
.
Red-scarf
.
I
dare
warrant
you
so
much
,
because
you
may
see
your self
in
so
good
forwardnes
of
fayling
alredie
.
Tawney-scarf
.
But
this
confessing
of
ones
sinnes
to
a
Priest
is
such
a
thing
,
that
I
much
wonder
how
people
could
bee
broght
vnto
it
.
Red-scarf
.
If
you
wel
consider
thereof
,
you
shall
see
it
a
woork
not
to
bee
wroght
by
man
,
but
by
the
wonderfull
concurring
power
of
God
,
for
how
were
it
els
possible
,
that
Apostles
of
the
Catholyke
Churche
should
bee
able
to
convert
somanie
Pagan
Princes
&
people
to
Christianitie
,
and
consequently
to
bring
them
to
that
deuotion
and
humillitie
as
to
kneel
down
and
make
confession
of
their
sinnes
to
a
Priest
,
whereas
wee
cannot
see
that
ministers
do
conuert
anie
such
people
vnto
anie
their
new
religions
,
albeit
it
bee
farre
more
easie
,
and
would
neuer
trouble
them
with
confession
of
sinnes
.
This
practise
of
confession
of
sinnes
albeit
to
the
eares
of
new
teachers
it
seemeth
harsh
,
yet
was
it
put
in
practise
,
by
the
holie
friend
of
Christ
,
S.
Iohn
Baptist
,
before
Christ
gaue
the
authoritie
of
pardoning
sinnes
vnto
his
Apostles
,
for
the
penitent
people
that
resorted
vnto
S.
Iohn
Baptist
,
did
make
confession
of
their
sinnes
,
which
it
is
not
lyke
they
would
haue
donne
,
nor
that
the
scripture
would
haue
mentioned
it
as
a
deed
wel
donne
,
if
S.
Iohn
himself
had
not
perswaded
them
vnto
it
,
or
approoued
it
.
The
Scripture
sayeth
they
came
vnto
him
confessing
their
sinnes
.
It
is
one
thing
for
a
man
to
confesse
himself
to
bee
a
sinner
,
and
another
thing
to
confesse
his
sinnes
,
for
when
hee
confesseth
his
sinnes
,
hee
confesseth
what
sinnes
hee
hath
committed
.
And
the
Apostle
S.
Iames
promulgateth
the
precept
,
by
saying
,
Confesse
your
sinnes
one
to
another
,
for
this
Apostle
knowing
that
Christe
h●●
sayd
to
him
,
and
the
rest
of
the
Apostles
,
Whose
sinnes
you
forgiue
they
are
forgiven
▪
&
caet
.
Did
also
know
that
confession
of
sinnes
must
go
before
pardon
of
sinnes
.
But
if
wee
consider
it
wel
wee
shal
see
it
to
bee
a
moste
great
grace
and
happines
imparted
by
Christe
vnto
men
in
leauing
behynd
him
with
his
servants
and
Priests
,
this
commission
and
priuilege
,
whereby
sinners
by
contrition
confession
,
and
satisfaction
of
and
for
their
sinnes
may
put
themselues
in
state
of
grace
,
and
dischardge
themselues
of
so
heauie
a
waight
in
this
world
,
as
would
beare
down
their
soules
to
hel
in
the
next
.
Tawney-scarf
.
The
case
concerning
this
matter
of
confession
beeing
so
cleer
,
as
heer
both
by
scripture
and
necessarie
deduced
reasons
you
haue
shewed
,
I
wonder
verie
much
why
our
Learned
men
,
that
pretend
all
their
recours
to
Scripture
,
should
not
see
and
practise
the
same
.
Red-scarf
.
They
cannot
but
see
it
,
but
they
scufle
it
ouer
,
the
silenceing
thereof
beeing
vnto
them
,
reason
of
state
.
Tawney-scarf
.
How
shal
I
vnderstand
that
?
Red-scarf
.
You
shal
vnderstand
that
the
new
religion-makers
of
this
tyme
,
to
draw
people
from
the
old
,
found
it
fit
for
them
in
policie
,
to
make
their
new
religions
more
easie
and
pleasing
,
and
therefore
,
such
as
follow
the
doctrine
of
Caluin
taking
a
way
confession
,
broght
in
predestination
,
teaching
that
God
hath
determined
who
hee
will
haue
saued
,
and
who
hee
wil
haue
damned
,
before
euer
themselues
are
borne
:
and
who
hee
wil
graunt
or
deny
his
grace
vnto
,
and
that
to
such
as
hee
wil
haue
to
bee
damned
albeit
they
bee
innocent
children
sucking
at
their
mothers
brests
,
and
of
themselues
could
neuer
deserue
it
,
yet
will
hee
resoluedly
deny
them
his
grace
so
as
they
shall
and
must
bee
damned
,
By
which
new
and
moste
damnable
doctrine
,
confession
of
sinnes
to
such
as
are
of
yeares
&
able
to
make
it
,
is
as
vtterly
needles
,
taken
away
,
and
so
is
also
in
verie
trothe
,
all
deuotion
and
dooing
of
good
deedes
,
for
seeing
God
hath
determined
before
how
hee
will
dispose
of
all
mennes
soules
,
his
disposition
must
hold
whether
they
themselues
do
wel
or
il
.
and
to
what
purpose
then
were
going
to
confession
?
Tawney-scarf
.
In
deed
I
haue
heard
enoughe
of
this
in
Holland
,
where
Doctor
Arminius
a
Protestant
himself
,
did
fynd
it
to
bee
against
the
iustice
,
and
goodnes
of
God
,
and
manie
are
now
grown
to
think
it
so
also
,
and
to
bee
of
his
opinion
.
Red-scarf
.
There
resteth
yet
one
point
that
I
must
note
vnto
you
concerning
this
matter
of
confession
,
because
you
sayd
you
marveled
that
men
could
bee
made
such
fooles
,
as
to
tell
their
sinnes
vnto
Priests
,
but
this
wonder
wil
be
no
wonder
when
you
consider
that
Priests
must
no
lesse
make
confession
of
their
sinnes
then
other
men
,
for
you
must
not
vnderstand
that
confession
of
sinnes
vnto
a
Priest
,
is
an
inuention
broght
vp
by
Priests
,
to
bee
practised
vpon
other
men
,
which
they
perswade
vnto
it
,
but
a
thing
ordayned
and
instituted
by
Christe
and
his
Apostles
,
&
of
religious
dutie
and
obligation
practised
and
continued
in
Christe
,
his
Catholyke
Churche
where
there
is
not
anie
priest
that
is
not
as
much
obliged
to
make
Confession
of
his
sinnes
vnto
an
other
Priest
,
as
anie
other
man
is
,
and
where
there
is
no
,
Ecclesiasticall
person
,
Prelate
,
Bishop
,
or
the
Pope
himself
,
that
heerin
is
exempted
,
for
euen
the
Pope
who
is
the
chief
and
head
of
all
the
Catholyke
Clergie
,
must
fit
on
his
knees
and
make
his
confession
to
a
Priest
,
albeit
his
own
inferior
,
so
as
you
may
see
that
Priests
in
this
matter
of
confession
haue
not
imposed
a
burthen
vpon
other
men
which
themselues
do
not
beare
.
The
lyke
humilitie
in
confession
of
sinnes
is
also
seen
in
Emperors
Kinges
&
Princes
,
no
lesse
then
in
other
people
.
Tawney-scarf
.
But
is
this
,
so
in
deed
.
Red-scarf
.
It
is
moste
vndoubtedly
true
.
Tawney-scarf
.
But
what
if
a
Priest
should
disclose
▪
what
is
vttred
vnto
him
inconfession
?
Red-scarf
.
If
hee
should
so
do
hee
should
bee
grivously
punished
,
and
suspended
from
the
practise
of
his
priestly
function
during
his
whole
lyf
,
for
confessions
must
not
in
anie
case
bee
reuealed
,
and
if
so
bee
this
seal
of
secresie
,
where
with
the
lippes
of
the
priest
are
sealed
vp
,
should
come
to
bee
violated
,
it
were
the
destruction
of
the
Sacrament
of
Pennance
,
which
the
holie
Ghoste
will
neuer
permit
.
The
Priest
wel
knoweth
that
confession
is
made
vnto
God
more
them
to
him
,
and
that
hee
as
the
minister
of
God
,
is
by
hearing
of
the
sinne
to
iudge
thereof
,
and
accordingly
to
giue
the
sinner
good
and
ghostly
counsel
,
and
to
ordayn
him
his
Pennance
.
To
conclude
this
matter
I
must
tel
you
,
that
it
is
onlie
the
diuel
,
who
to
keep
vs
from
beeing
absolued
of
our
sinnes
,
putteth
all
feare
and
shame
before
our
eyes
,
when
wee
should
go
to
confesse
them
,
but
sequestreth
it
from
our
sight
when
wee
go
about
to
comit
them
.
Tawney-scarf
.
You
haue
of
this
matter
sayd
so-much
that
you
haue
made
mee
see
that
I
stil
haue
the
woorst
end
of
the
staf
,
and
therefore
to
dispaire
of
the
victorie
,
and
to
see
my
reasons
not
sufficient
enough
(
in
regard
of
yours
)
to
make
you
turn
Protestant
.
Red-scarf
.
If
you
could
bring
mee
so
farre
as
so
much
to
dislyke
my
religion
as
to
bee
willing
to
relinquish
it
,
it
doth
not
consequently
follow
that
I
should
turn
protestant
,
but
I
should
then
stand
in
a
great
labrinth
to
consider
which
of
all
the
new
religions
that
this
day
by
pretence
of
Scripture
wil
needes
bee
the
true
religion
,
I
might
make
choyce
of
,
for
the
vndoubted
true
religion
in
deed
,
you
must
vnderstand
I
haue
bin
a
travayler
&
haue
had
more
triall
and
experience
of
these
pretenders
in
the
world
abroad
,
then
our
puritane
Idiots
,
that
onlie
heare
and
heed
what
their
home-bred
minister
telles
them
,
when
he
wil
make
it
seeme
as
thogh
the
Catholyke
religion
had
no
more
contradictors
but
those
that
are
of
his
religion
,
as
if
there
were
not
diuers
others
of
different
religions
from
that
which
hee
holdeth
(
and
of
much
lyke
new-nes
)
that
do
as
earnestly
contradict
the
Catholyke
religion
&
asmuch
pretend
to
haue
their
onlie
recours
to
scripture
,
as
possibly
hee
can
doe
,
&
wil
not
by
Scripture
bee
put
down
by
such
as
hee
is
,
albeitthey
should
with
Bibles
beat
out
their
braines
.
All
these
,
how
different
soeuer
from
ours
,
&
from
one
another
,
do
as
earnestly
pretend
restauration
of
the
ancient
religion
of
the
Apostles
tyme
,
as
they
for
their
lyues
can
do
,
In
which
pretence
both
of
theires
and
of
ours
,
I
haue
so
throughly
penetrated
,
that
I
haue
fully
discerned
the
Idlenes
thereof
,
for
no
one
of
them
all
can
carrie
the
matter
away
with
anie
proofs
or
reasons
peculiar
to
it self
,
which
none
of
the
rest
cannot
make
his
vse
of
aswell
as
it
.
That
there
were
in
the
primityue
Churche
somanie
different
religions
as
now
pretend
to
restore
the
same
,
who
can
belieue
?
That
anie
one
is
the
restorer
thereof
,
how
shal
it
bee
known
which
it
is
?
seeing
none
can
anie
way
make
himself
appere
to
be
the
same
before
others
,
If
hee
wil
say
that
hee
wil
prooue
it
by
the
woord
of
God
,
how
can
hee
make
his
proof
appeer
to
others
,
to
bee
more
cleere
then
their
lyk
proofs
to
him
?
When
I
consider
how
our
Puritanes
do
heer
in
England
ween
themselues
to
bee
the
onlie
Scripture
fellowes
of
the
world
,
I
cannot
but
laugh
with
my self
to
imagine
how
they
would
bee
taken
down
with
other
scripture
laddes
that
I
haue
met
withal
in
my
travailes
in
Germanie
among
Arrians
,
Trinitists
,
Lutherans
,
Morauian-Anabaptists
,
Holland-Anabaptists
,
and
others
of
pettier
sectes
,
that
at
the
woord
,
would
make
but
poor
snakes
of
them
.
I
heard
a
Lutheran
preacher
at
Augusta
tel
his
auditorie
that
to
deal
with
a
Caluinist
(
intending
our
Protestants
or
Puritanes
)
the
best
way
was
to
take
Gods
woord
and
grease
him
wel
with
that
about
the
snowt
,
telling
him
still
that
Christe
at
his
last
supper
,
sayd
,
Take
and
eat
this
is
my
bodie
,
&c.
Not
suffring
him
by
anie
of
his
Caluinistical
shifts
,
to
slip
from
these
wordes
,
so
may
wee
conclude
quoth
hee
,
that
either
the
Caluinist
must
make
Christe
a
lyer
,
or
bee
a
lyer
himself
.
At
Francford
I
heard
an
Anabaptist
demaund
of
a
Caluinist
,
what
Scripture
hee
had
for
the
Christening
of
children
,
the
Caluinist
would
haue
gon
about
to
deduce
it
by
consequence
,
away
with
your
consequenting
quoth
the
Anabaptist
,
for
if
consequences
may
bee
admitted
,
I
wil
heare
the
Papists
speak
before
you
,
you
are
the
verie
cooseners
of
the
world
,
you
brag
and
boast
of
profession
of
Scripture
,
and
when
you
are
put
to
it
then
forsooth
you
are
farre
enough
to
seek
,
and
not
in
this
matter
onlie
of
Christning
of
Children
,
but
of
more
matters
besydes
,
If
I
would
put
you
to
it
,
and
did
not
spare
you
for
pittie
,
because
you
are
turnd
without
book
alredie
.
I
could
alleage
vnto
you
sundrie
examples
of
the
resolutenes
of
Hussytes
,
Lutherans
,
Anabaptists
▪
and
others
in
their
seuerall
religions
,
which
is
such
that
none
of
our
sermon-makers
heer
in
England
can
anie
whit
go
beyond
them
,
I
haue
heard
somanie
of
their
different
pulpit
cryes
,
of
the
light
of
the
Ghospel
,
of
the
pure
woord
of
God
,
of
inward
illumination
of
spirit
,
of
sealing
it
with
their
blood
and
such
lyke
pretensions
,
general
to
all
,
&
as
dulie
claymed
by
the
one
sorte
as
by
the
other
,
that
good
experience
hath
taught
mee
to
know
such
pretensions
heer
at
home
to
bee
as
idle
fopperies
as
I
haue
found
them
in
other
countries
abroade
,
serving
onlie
to
lead
away
fooles
,
that
see
no
further
then
the
length
of
their
noses
.
If
such
as
heer
do
keep
the
greatest
coyl
in
their
pulpit-crying
of
their
light
of
the
Ghospel
,
and
pure
woord
of
God
(
as
thogh
without
all
contradiction
they
were
the
onlie
men
lyving
vnder
the
cope
of
heauen
that
had
it
)
would
but
dare
to
appeer
among
these
other
seuerall
sortes
of
professors
of
other
lightes
of
the
Ghospel
,
and
other
puritie
of
the
woord
,
and
bee
vrged
if
they
will
bee
belieued
before
all
the
world
besydes
,
to
set
down
to
the
manifest
view
of
all
men
,
such
proofs
and
reasons
,
for
their
assurednes
of
having
the
truthe
,
as
all
the
rest
shall
not
bee
able
in
the
verie
lyke
manner
to
produce
for
theirs
.
Good
Lord
how
would
then
our
English
pulpit
boasters
bee
puzled
,
and
what
pouertie
would
then
their
glorious
Ghospel
bee
broght
vnto
?
trust
mee
there
could
nothing
in
this
case
bee
better
fitting
for
them
than
to
transport
themselues
back
agayn
into
invisibillitie
(
if
they
haue
reserued
the
f●il
)
for
thereby
might
they
saue
themselues
from
becoming
(
by
beeing
pointed
at
)
the
obiects
of
the
sporte
of
all
the
others
.
And
thusmuch
(
with
desyre
of
pardon
)
dare
I
further
anouche
,
that
I
do
not
know
,
anie
forreyn
countrie
vpon
earth
,
wherein
in
anie
sorte
the
name
of
Christianitie
is
professed
,
where
the
religion
of
England
in
the
iudgment
of
the
Learned
of
anie
of
these
whatsoeuer
,
is
fullie
and
wholie
allowed
for
good
,
&
not
in
one
principall
point
or
other
,
gainsayed
&
contradicted
.
And
whereas
manie
heer
in
England
do
stand
verie
much
vpon
the
resolutenes
of
their
Foxian
,
Martirs
,
as
thogh
their
sufferance
for
their
Caluinistical
cause
were
a
marvelous
,
great
argument
of
the
goodnes
thereof
,
but
which
of
the
other
new
pretenders
cannot
produce
their
Martirs
also
?
Husytes
and
Lutherans
are
not
without
store
of
them
,
and
both
thinking
themselues
to
bee
much
wronged
by
M.
Fox
.
The
Hussites
in
beeing
robbed
by
him
of
their
Patriarche
Iohn
Husse
,
and
the
Lutherans
by
beeing
robbed
by
him
in
lyke
sorte
,
of
theire
much
esteemed
martir
,
fryer
Barnes
.
As
for
the
Anabaptists
their
number
farre
exceedeth
those
of
M.
Fox
,
and
perhaps
ten
for
one
.
They
that
list
to
make
the
calculation
may
compare
those
which
they
haue
set
down
in
their
book
of
Martirs
,
entituled
,
The
Sacrifice
of
the
Lord
,
with
the
number
of
those
that
are
in
M.
Fox
his
Acts
and
monuments
.
I
wil
now
ceasse
to
bee
further
tedious
vnto
you
,
but
by
this
which
I
haue
related
concerning
religion
,
as
also
concerning
your
resolution
in
your
intended
seruice
,
I
leaue
you
to
iudge
which
of
both
our
courses
is
best
founded
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
protest
vnto
you
,
you
haue
so
intoxicated
my
braine
,
that
you
haue
almoste
broght
mee
to
stand
staggering
between
hauk
,
and
bussard
.
Red-scarf
.
If
you
wil
stand
sure
from
falling
,
leane
vnto
the
better
and
the
stronger
syde
.
Tawney-scarf
.
I
wil
think
on
the
matter
.
Red-scarf
.
Forget
not
then
to
consider
I
pray
you
,
euen
for
your
own
honor
and
the
honor
of
our
nation
,
that
Englishmen
stil
continewing
to
serue
the
Hollanders
,
notwithstanding
all
the
vilanous
wronges
they
haue
donne
them
,
do
preiudice
their
own
esteem
,
among
other
nations
,
who
may
imagin
them
to
bee
so
basely
blynded
or
bewitched
by
mistaken
Holland
Ghospel
,
that
they
cannot
see
themselues
made
by
the
Hollanders
in
a
manner
as
their
slaues
,
for
slaues
receaue
blowes
and
serue
them
that
beat
them
,
and
euen
so
do
our
countrimen
receaue
blowes
at
the
handes
of
the
Hollanders
,
and
yet
serue
them
.
The
difference
is
,
that
slaues
are
beaten
by
their
Masters
at
home
,
&
Englishmen
by
Hollanders
abroad
,
whyle
their
inconsiderate
countrimen
serue
them
at
home
,
where
if
they
serued
them
right
,
they
might
right
some
of
the
wronges
which
abroad
they
do
them
.
And
I
cannot
enough
wonder
at
the
sencelessnes
of
such
giddie
pated
prentises
of
London
as
durst
so
barbarously
abuse
,
an
Ambassador
of
a
King
of
Spayn
,
themselues
not
knowing
anie
cause
why
,
&
yet
when
by
letters
from
the
East
Indies
it
was
by
our
own
Marchants
signifyed
how
moste
barbarously
and
vilanously
,
the
Hollanders
had
abused
them
,
these
considerate
youthes
were
not
a
whit
moued
to
anger
against
M.
Caroon
,
who
carryeth
the
name
of
Ambassador
for
the
Holland
States
,
but
could
shew
themselues
so
soft
mynded
,
as
to
let
him
pas
quietly
in
the
streets
of
London
in
his
Coatche
,
and
do
him
reuerence
,
as
if
they
had
thanked
him
for
it
.
But
beginning
now
to
feare
that
I
may
haue
bin
to
tedious
vnto
you
and
to
this
good
compagnie
,
I
will
with
desyre
to
be
pardoned
for
my
freenesse
of
speech
,
thank
you
all
for
your
patience
,
&
heer
make
an
end
of
this
busynes
.
Tawney-scarf
.
And
I
thank
you
also
for
yours
.
Heervpon
according
to
the
promisse
before
made
,
this
Toung-combat
,
ciuilie
ceased
,
and
soon
vpon
it
,
the
Graucsend
iorney
also
,
and
euerie
man
disposed
himself
,
as
his
affaires
,
&
further
iorney
lay
.
FINIS
.
L.
B.
S.
T.
L.