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PROPOSITION Of the Ambassadour PECKIVS .

In the Congregation of the General States . WITH THE ANSWER Of the sayd General States , the XXV . of March , 1621.

TRANSLATED , Out of Dutch , according to the Copy , printed by AERT MEURS , Bookseller in the HAGUE .

A COPIE Of the Letters of Credence .

LOvinge Freends , wee send thither Sr. Pieter Peckius , Lord Knight of Bouchout , &c. Counseler of our Counsel of State , and Chanceler of Brabant bringher of this , to handle with you of certayne cause that hee shall declare unto you : And therefore this shal serve to require , not onely to give him good audience , but also to give him full credit in that hee shall declare unto you from our Part. Lovinge Freends wee commende you in the mercifull Protection of the Almighty God . In Brussel the 16 of March , 1621.

Subscribed Albert and Isabel . Lower . Verreycken . The Superscription , To our Lovinge Freends the General States of the Vnited Provinces .
PROPOSITION Of the Ambassadour PECKIVS . In the Congregation of the General States .

NOBLE & MIGHTY LORDS , These latter dayes of the Truce of twelf years of the Lowe Countreys / our common Fatherland / do set before our eyes the lamentable mutation commonly following after such temporall Agreements / and whereof the preparations on both sides are promooved and advaunced already . But the Archidukes looking with a pittifull eye upon the extreame and most deplorable Inconveniences and miseries / wherein this Lands thorough / this mutation should come to falle / could not choose to bring into great consideration the meanes fit / expedient and required to the preventing and averting of them / specially beeinge mooved to this healthfull and salutary sentence / thorough their naturall inclination to Peace / and thorough their zeale and affection to the commune wealth / which likewise hath beene the cheefest and principal motives / that their Highnesses have resolved to the sayd Truce / as a beginning of the whole desired tranquillitie and rest / and of the Quenching of the Flame of warre / wherein at their cominge they found these Lands / thinking that within the time of the same Truce / there actions have klearly and manifestly testified and declared the surety of their good intention / and for this future time their Highnesses have nothing more carefully beharted / then to procure the greatest advantage of these Lands in Generall / which seemes to consiste therein that all the Parts and Members of the Low Countreys should gather in one body and under one head / beeing apparent / that as they where before the troubles in peaceable union and quiet prosperitie / they should yet more use and enioye the same if the Provinces of this side / would consent to a good / and firme Agreement with acknowledge of their Natural Princes . This is the Poinct that their Highnesses have charged mee to declare unto your Mightinesses and freendly to present / supposing that it was their duety and required office of good Princes before all breaches of warre / seeking and beharting your owne continuall welfare and prosperitie / and that consideration should be taken of it / with a fruitfull resolution / by which all sheading of blood / exceeding chardges and other lamentable miseries ( whereunto this Low Countreys have beene subiect so many yeares ) once might be avoyded : And if your Mightinesses would come / upon this condition to a communication of Agreement / their Highnesses shall incline to such reosonnable conditions and capitulations / that the same your High Mightinesses shall have full reason of good contentement / and see not onely the affections of the good will of their Highnesses / but eke the equitie and sinceritie / which alwayes they have had in sundry recommendation / and manifestly declared hitherto by the punctuel and religious keeping of all their actions and promises / as that same sufficiently may bee trusted unto them : Assuring your High Mightinesses likewise of the like good and sincere intention of the Catholike Maiestie / and that the same shall have for good / firme and acceptable / what their Highnesses concerning this cause shal do and conclude .

And was subscribed P. PECKIUS .
ANSWER Vpon the sayd Proposition / of the sayd High / Mighty Lords the States of the Vnited Lowe Countreys .

THe General States of the Vnited Lowe Countreys having heard and througly examined the Proposition from the Part of the Archidukes / in the Congregation of their High Mightinesses / first verbolly done / and thereafter delivered in writing by the Lord Petro Peckio Knight of Bouchoute / Canceler of Brabant / by power of Lettres of Credencie of the sayd Archidukes / dated in Brussel the 16 of this Moneth . Declare that the Highnesse and Souveraigntie of the Vnited Lowe Countries is sure / and with out any contraversy by their High Mightinesses / and by the States of the Respective Provinces / that they have maintained alwayes religiously the same / against al those that would bring it in doubt / or to undertake any thing against the same / or appropriate it to any other Princes / and consequently that they never would come to any treatises or agreements / wheere by the same should have beene brought in any doubt / whereof they have given expres declaration to the Emperour / Electours and Princes / and other Potentates / and likewise to the sayd Archidukes / that the State of their High Mightinesses is holden Souverain / and their Lands for free Lands acknowledged and accepted by the greatest Monarches / Kings / Potentates and Republiques / who all / in the same qualitie / have made with their High . Migh . sundry treatises / and Confederations / having likewise maintained it so farre / that their High Mightinesses / nor with the sayde Archiduke / nor with the King of Spaine / would not undertake any Agreement / before the same had given an acte of Declaration of it / that they did handle with the same their High Mightinesses / as with free Lands and Provinces whereupon they had nothing to pretende : And because that same is as kleare as the Noonedaye / and manifestly knowen to all the world / therefore their High Mightinesses hold very straunge the Proposition of the Lord Chanceler PECKIO , declaringe that the greatest advantage of these Lands should consiste therein / that all the Parts and membres of the Lowe Countreys should gather in one body and under one Head / and that they would consent to a good and Firme Agreement with acknow : of theyr natural Princes / if the same lands upon this condition would come to a communication of Agreement / that theyr Hignesses should incline to reasonnable conditions : Because the same Condition could not serve to preventinge and aboydinge of the extreame inconveniences / wherein the Lands thorough the warres againe should come to falle / whereunto the Proposition seemes to stretche / but rather shall kindle the fyer of warre / because it goes directly against the sayd confessed souveraigntie and Highnesse of the Lands / which theyr High Might : hitherto so laudably / and with so difficile warres have maintained / and further / with the helpe of God / are resolved to maintaine with goods and blood . And likewise that the sayde Proposition is replenished with errours and not tollerable in theyr state / drawinge in dispute the same souveraigntie against the Fondementale Lawes of this State . And therefore theyr High Might : kan not allowe such an uniust / anlooked / and unneygbourly Proposition nor approove the same / as implikinge an intollerable atrocite against theyr state / and to great dishonour of al Monarches / Kings / Potentates / and Republiques / who haue handled with them as with a Souveraine State . But must and necessarely declare / that all they / which by any Propositions or other meanes / presume to drawe into dispute the Souverayne Right of these lands / or to impugne the same / or to appropriate it to any other Princes / or any thinge that favoured of it / shall bee holden and keept as inhabil to bee admitted by theyr High . Might : to any Treatise . And this they give the sayde Lord Peckio for answer / onely adding / that the sayd Archidukes / by the manifold complainctes done unto them / and whereupon no satisfaction is done / knowe sufficiently / how theyr High . Mightines understande that the Treatise of Truce poinctly and regiliously by them and the Kinge of Spaine should be keept . Actum in the congregation of the sayd General States in the Hague the 25. of March . 1621. And was paragraphed .

Henr. ter Coulen , Vidit . Onder stoot / By Ordinance of the Sayd General States . And was subscribed . C. Aerssen .