For in the Apostles time was the change , and that same , I am of Paul , I am of Cephas , was the occasion of the change : and finally the decree of all the world ( at least as S. Hierome thinketh ) was the approbation of the change . This were strange reasoning : In the beginning Kings and priests were all one , ergo , they must continue all one . In the beginning such was the simplicitie , &c. Great lords sonnes , as Iacob , &c. kept their fathers sheepe : ergo , noble mens children mus● keepe their fathers sheepe . In the beginning they baptized in Riuers , ergo , men must carie their children downe to be christened in Riuers . Or in another , where you demonstrate agaynst the superioritie of Archbishops .

If the Pope be odious , the Archbishop is odious also , as who would say : If the vnmeasurable and illimitable power be vnlawfull , Ergo , a modest and limited superioritie by law is vnlawfull also . Finiti ad Infinitum nulla est proportio . Or ,

The Archbishops office and name is vnknowen to vs Puritanes , Ergo , vnknowen and vnheard of in the Church .

You shall well know that both the name and equitie of the name and thing is knowen and allowed of in Gods Church . Or , where it pleaseth you to say .

Caluin saieth there were gouernours of order , not of superioritie : Ergo , this is true : as if it were truly sayd , all gouernment of superioritie is gouernment of disorder , and that these were opposite . Or in the demonstration : To prooue Doctor and Pastor to be distinguished , you dispute cunningly thus .

Male and female are distinct in sexe or kind , Gal. 3. Ergo Doctor and Pastor must be distinct : why not then in sex or kind ? with many other like Paralogismes , as in your seuerall Chapters shal be vnfolded , the whole Demonstration being nothing els but a bundle of absurdities . Howbeit , the booke thereof is a thing so preciously esteemed by the author himself , so magnified by his folowers , as worthy to be set vpon the highest pinacle of this Church new reformed : for which cause hee giueth himselfe such applause for writing of it , & glorifieth himselfe as if he were riding vpon the Cherubins with Luciferian pride , or as if he were to draw downe as the Dragons taile all the starres in the firmament , consent of scriptures , Councils , Fathers old and new , onely to giue light to the cause in handling .

And concerning other mens bookes that haue oppugned the cause , he speaketh scornefully and disdainfully , as of the lord Archbishop and Deane of Sarum their bookes , whose learned trauailes , neither T. C. W. T. I. V. nor any ecclesiasticall discipliner of them all , are able to confute , vnlesse to raile in all their writings , and snatch at one word in 40. leaues , bee to answere a booke : whose vertue notwithstanding shall shine , when your canckred malice shall bee dead . Touching that most reuerend Prelate , you and your complices may in this licentious and outragious world speake pleasurablie : Neuer yet good man spake but honour of him , whom her Maiestie hath graciously vouchsafed vnder her to exercise Christian iurisdiction and authoritie : whose Primacie is humilitie , who is for his vertue no lesse honoured then loued , whose learning angreth you , vnto whom if you will make answere , you must studie for more learning . I am verily perswaded , that as God in all ages raised excellent men , instruments of his glorie to confute and banish out of the Church heresie , as Athanasius against the Arrians , Augustine against the Donatists , Augustine and Hierome against the Pelagians in former times : In our latter times bishop Iewell against the false Catholikes and Semipelagians : so God hath stirred vp this learned man against the false brethren and Aerians of our time , to hammer and beate downe the schisme and singularitie of Puritanes . And therefore I doe humbly thanke God , that it hath pleased his glorious maiestie in heauen , and her excellent maiestie here on earth , to reserue him to these times . I speake it in the feare of God , had not her Maiesties principall spirite of wisedome illumined with Gods trueth , together with the Heroicall prudent spirites of certaine honorable personages and industrious learned men , affecting a prouident care of the posteritie of the Church , patronized this Church-discipline , your priuate spirites of new-fangled discipline happily had more preuailed against these godly and religious proceedings in the Church , nay , to the vtter remoouing of the Gospell by such confusion and Anarchie . Imagine that the externall face of that Church where you might see so many thousand Superintendents , so many Elderships aduanced in or aboue the Church , to make orders and to censure at pleasure , where the people giue voices , the Laitie lay on handes , the maiestie of the Prince excluded from all swaie in the presbyterie : all antiquitie forlorne , all Councils vtterly repealed , doctrine deuided from exhortation , Laie-men Deacons of the Church , parish bishops , parrot preachers , the Vniuersities disgraced of the priuiledge of granting degrees , Cathedrall Churches by greedie wolues spoiled , all courtes of Iustice ouerthrowen or impaired by the Consistoriall court of Elders , and as it were all the trees of the garden of Eden plucked vp , to implant Sambucus the faire goodly Elders or Elder tree . Or els what may be the fantasie or imaginarie forme of this reformation in matters of Ecclesiasticall gouernment ? They themselues skill not : or when you haue supplanted or ouerturned , or turned out those Ecclesiasticall Senators and gouernours which we haue , whence shall the supplie bee of able gouernours ? from beyond the seas ? that is impossibilitie . From your selues ? that is matter of difficultie . From vs againe ? that were egregious and ridiculous follie . Might it not fare with vs as it sometimes did with the Commons of the Citie of Capua ? the Commons bare a deadly hate to the magistrates and gouernours of the Citie . Vpon a time the councell of the Citie being in consultation of their affaires , one Pacunius ( as Liuie writeth ) Homo vsus malis artibus , he was not the best man , maketh an insurrection with the Commons , and suddenly shutteth all the Magistrates into one place , and with sufficient garrison keepeth the place , and held them all as prisoners within , giueth farther this counsell to the Commons to draw them foorth one by one , and to put euery one to death , and to put others in their places , to create new and better gouernours of the Citie . This aduise pleased them well . He commaundeth in order the first to be drawen foorth to execution , as a man woorthie of death : euery base and tumultuarie varlet crieth out , he is woorthie of an hundred deaths , let him bee shortened by the shoulders . The noble Senator whiles he is to lay downe his necke vpon the blocke , Pacuuius ( as chiefe speaker ) pawseth on the matter : Sirs , before wee put this man to death , it were good we did nominate another to occupie his place : this noble Citie may not stand without a Senate . That counsell also seemeth pleasing vnto them , they streight proceed on to the nomination and election of a Senatour , One man nameth one , that man nameth another , each man as he best fansieth , maketh a seuerall nomination : no sooner any man is named , but a 1000. exceptions are taken to the partie , the person named is thought vnwoorthy either for basenesse of his parentage , or vilenesse of his trade , or meanenesse of his fortunes , or lacke of this , or lacke of that : the sedition thereupon is dissolued of it selfe , the election of a new set of officers is interrupted , euery one plainly seeth his owne follie and temeritie . Semblablie if like power were giuen , as in the Preface of your Demonstration you pray for , ( which God forbid ) to shut vp into a corner our Reuerend Fathers and Ecclesiasticall magistracie , and you readie vpon the change to transforme our Bishops into your Surueillants , or ouerwatchers , our Conuocations and Chapters , into your maruelous Classicall conferences and Synodes , all the whole Hierarchie of the Church into your Tetrarchie of Doctor , Pastor , Elder and Deacon ( for if you did affect 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to haue no superioritie , then were you farre worse then the Capuans ) If I say your mortall or immortall hatred against the state ecclesiasticall caried you to extinguish this order established in the Church alreadie : blessed God , how would you proceed to the choice of a new Senate Ecclesiasticall and their inuestiture ? whiles a man might heare you say of the new Doctor or Pastor , Elder or Deacon , This man hath zeale but no learning , that man learning but no zeale , the other neither zeale nor learning , such a man is factious and full of deadly poison , he a base crafts-man or artisan , another is auaricious , and would carie away our bag , T. C. will ouertoppe all , or loueth the preheminences as Diotrephes , each man taking exception vnto other . Doe ye not foresee , or rather doe you not see as in a glasse , the image or bodily shape of the imagined state which you so impetuouslie striue for , and we striue against , and striue will in a good cause vnto the death ? Or what need we striue ? the strife will be with and within your selues , when you shall see the monstruousnesse of your misbegotten , conceiued foule Embryon , deformed and mishaped birth , borne into the world of Christianitie , which you are so enamoured vpon , and so fond ouer , that euery one must kisse & embrace it in his armes , & blush not to make shew & demonstration of triumph of the birth & natiuitie of the same . How soeuer your fancie deludeth you with ioie , this monster may not be suffered to liue vpon the face of the earth . 1. Cor. 15.35 . S. Paul somtime sayd 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 : I haue fought with beasts vnder the shape of men at Ephesus , that is , with beastly and monstruous men and their opinions . So I now say or will assaie to encounter the Demonstrator and his demonstrations , to quell this monster amongst men . Of the same mind are many moe of our excellent & learned men . Men are now awakened and will no longer endure these insignious abuses offered to the Church , to the Vniuersities , to the Colledges of learned men . No , no T.C. & you the whole busie sect of Puritans , do not thinke any longer to pester the Church of England . You lacke the most of you ( for any thing I see ) sound Logike , and other learnings diuine and humane . Perchance you , or some of the most ignominious amongst you , may deuise an infamous Libell or letter against D. Bridges , or D. Bancroft for his Sermon preached at Paules crosse ( a Sermon worthie to be read and printed in the heart of the hearer in deed ) or against the writer of this Remonstrance to solace your selues withall for the meane time , as all heretikes and schismatikes are woont to countenance their cause . I doe assure my selfe that none of you dare to vndertake a publique disputation in the schooles ( if those in authoritie shall thinke it fit ) or to goe forward with this scholasticall exercise of Syllogising . To second your irrefragable , vndoubted , and thrise learned demonstrations , the next newes I looke to heare from you , will be no refutation of this my booke , but a little booke or Libel full fraught with calumnious slander : neuerthelesse , per bonam famam & per infamiam , by good report and bad report we must proceed on to the iustification of a good cause . And if like dastards and recreants you will not deale with handie-strokes of Syllogisme : let it be an euident signe that you are readie to runne away , and for euer after relinquish your so disputable and demonstrable a cause . * ⁎ *