〈…〉 Partly of such , as he hath Slaunderously 〈…〉 Harding withal : Partly of such other , as 〈…〉 committed about the triall thereof , in the Text of the foure first Articles of his Replie . With a Reioyndre vpon the Principall Matters of the Replie , treated in the Thirde and Fourthe Articles .

By Thomas Stapleton student in Diuinite .

Printed in Antwerpe , by Iohn Latius , At the signe of the Sower . 1566. With Speciall Grace and Priuilege .

〈…〉 Maiestatis Gratia Speciali 〈…〉 est Thomae Stapletono 〈◊〉 inscriptum , A Returne of Vntruthes vpon M. Iewelles Replie &c. per aliquem Typographorum admissorum tuto & libere imprimendum curare , & publicé distrahere , nullo prohibente . Datum Bruxellis .26 . Aprilis . Anno .1566 .

IF you are , M. Iewell , the Man that you pretend to be , desirous of Gods honour , a Zelatour in the House of God , and a Boulter out off that Truthe , which you haue vaunted , and many doe thinke , can not be founde : it shall not seme straunge vnto you , much lesse it shal offende you , if I amonge the rest , though a Man to you vnknowen , yet a Christen Man and your Countreman , do put my helping hande to this your Zelous enterprise , and as if it were shewe you some parte of the waye that may leade you thereunto . For as betwene the Flynt and Yron , being striken together , fyre doth Flye out , so Iudgementes and Wittes contending , the Light off right knowleadge must nedes appeare . Suche Lighte ones appearing , the Truthe is soone had . You M. Iewel , to haue this Truthe tryed , haue proposed your Questions , and haue Challenged all that will , to ioyne issue with you in a number of Articles . To that your Challenge it hathe bene Answered Copiously and Lernedly . And the Truthe hathe bene proued , not only in the Termes of your Challenge which is lesse material , but much more in the Matter , comprised in those Termes . To that Answer you haue Replied largely also and painefully .

In this your Replie as you haue spared no Rhetorike , multiplyed Allegatyons , hunted after Common places , entred in to Digressyons , al to make a Shewe of lerning , and a Countenance of a Iuste and Full Replie to the Matter it selfe : so haue you for the Disgracing of your Aduersary , and for Discredityng the Author him selfe , vsed much Arte and taken great Paynes . Nowe with Scoffes and Tauntes , Nowe dissembling a great while his Meaning , and reasoning sadly against that no man saied , coming in after with your , But M. Harding will saie , Then altering quite his text in your Replie , and so confuting at pleasure your owne Inuentyon . At other times not Replying to him at all , but Opposing off your owne store . But one Caste you haue inuented , which I remembre not that any other writer euer Vsed before . A Caste I saie sufficient alone , if it were clenly conuayed , and vprightlye practised , not only to discredit the Author and to Confounde the Aduersary , but also to ouerthrowe his Doctrine , and to satisfie the Matter . What is that trowe we ? Forsothe you haue scored all alonge the Answer of D. Harding , euen from the beginning to the ending , Vntruthes , as you call them , Slaunders , in dede they be .

In these Vntruthes , you note to the Reader , not only the presumed faultes , errours or escapes of the Author , in penning and treating his Matter , but much more you note euery Principall pointe of Doctrine , euery Proued Proposition , and Matter treated , that semed to you and your humour , Vntrue . In this Inuentyon you take great pleasure . Of it you make great Vauntes . By it you thinke to winne the Credit and Persuasion of al men . For , this point you note to your Reader oftentimes not only in the text of your Replie , but in your Preface , in your Conclusyon , and in the Table of your booke . In your Text , toward the ende of your first Article , hauing them charged D. Harding with .44 . Vntruthes , you Crie out , and saie . O M. Harding , Iewell . pag. 91. is it not possible your doctrine maye stande without lies ? So many Vntruthes , in so litle roome , without the shame of the worlde , without feare of God ? In an other place you put the Reader in minde againe of this matter , and you saie of D. Harding . This man coulde neuer vtter so many Vntruthes together without some speciall priuilege . Pag. 195. In your Preface you require these Vntruthes , first and especially to be discharged , or amended , for thus you saie . Before he addresse him selfe to his Second Booke , I woulde counsel him to consider better the ouersightes and scapes of his former Booke . And a litle after . But before all thinges lett him write no moe Vntruthes . For thereof he hath sent vs enough already . Let him no more wreast and racke the Scriptures : let him nomore neither misalleage , nor mysconstrue , nor corrupte , nor alter the holy Fathers . Thus many waies you presume D. Harding to haue dealed Vntruly . And this you wil not haue your Reader to forgette . In your Conclusion you put againe the Reader in minde of them , as a Matter aboue all other to be boren awaye . For amonge other thinges thus there you speake to D. Harding . Your Vntruthes be so notorious , and so many , that it pi●●●th me in your behalfe to remembre them . But the places be euident , and Crie Corruption , and maye by no shifte be denied . The like you doe in your Table , vpon the Name of M. Harding noting very sadly and solemnely the totall summe off Vntruthes , whiche by your good Audit ariseth in the whole Answer of D. Harding , to the number of 255. adding , that they are with better aduise to be redressed .

Nowe verely M. Iewel , were your Audit herein good , and your Notes true , that so many Vntruthes in that answer were in dede committed , partly by the Autho●s faulte and ouersight ( to speake the leste ) partly 〈…〉 ●nd Vntrue Doctrine therein con●●yned ▪ 〈…〉 the booke worthy to be reproued , 〈…〉 greatly to be blamed . Yea I wi●● 〈…〉 you M. Iewell , then were his doctrine 〈…〉 tolerated , and his Person neuer to be cr●●●●ed . Then was it bothe wisely done of you to discouer it , and charitably done to expresse it , to note it , and to open it vnto all the worlde . For more Charite it is , that one false Teacher abide the Shame , Blame , and Reproche , then that a Thousand ignorant and innocent soules be induced to Errour , False doctrine , and Heresy .

But if on the Contrary parte , these are no Vntruthes , which for such you haue Noted , M. Iewell , if neither the Doctrine neither the Dealing of D. Harding is founde Vntrue , if all these Vntruthes , ( as farre as I haue yet entred withe you , which is to the one halfe thereof ) be Returned euery one vpon you ( One Only excepted , which yet is no Vntruth in doctrine , but a missetaking of the Author ) if they be proued to be your owne Vntruthes and that Slaunderous : what can remaine but that bothe the Answer of D. Harding , is so farre , good and perfect , and voide of Vntruthe , and yow for your part are founde to be a greate Slaunderer of your Aduersary , and an Open enemy to the Truthe , which you wil seme to defende ?

I will saie farder M. Iewell . What if you , not through your whole Replie , nor yet through out the former Halfe thereof , which at this time I haue only taken in hande , but through those places only of this Halfe , in whiche you labour in the text to Iustifie the Vntruthe noted in the Margin , what I saie if in these small Parcelles of halfe your Replie , ( though in dede the Principal and most Important Parcelles thereof ) you haue beside of your owne parte , what with false Doctrine , what with extreme Lewde Dealing , committed certain Hundreds of Vntruthes your selfe : then what shal we saie vnto you , or of what Credit ought you hereafter to be , with all men , that loue the Truthe , and are not Fastned to Factions .

Maye we not then saie to you with the prophet . Esa. 5. Veh qui dicitis malum bonum , bonum malum ? Accursed be you that call euill , good , and good , euill ? which call Truthe , Vntruthe , and persuade Vntruthes for Truthe ? Maye we not truly take you for one of them , which the Apostle saieth , shall come in the later dayes , In hypocrisi loquentium mendacium , Vttering lyes in Hypocrysy ? 1. Tim. 4. For what greater Hypocrysy is there , then to Charge Vntruthes , 〈◊〉 Vntruly , and to impugne the Truthe with the coulour of Truthe ? Maye you not worthely be thought to be one of them , whom the Prophet describeth saying , Esa. 28. Posuimus mendacium spem nostram , & m●ndacio pr●tecti sumus . We haue put our Confidence in Lying , and Lies haue bene oure Sauegarde ▪ Are you not truly like to those false prophets of the Iewes , who ( as the prophet saieth ) Docue●●●● ling●am suam loqui mendacium , Ierem. 9. vt inique agerint laborau●● a●t . Framed their tounges to Vtter Lies and toke great paynes to Deale Falsely : For so Manifolde and so Thicke are your Vntruthes that it maye seme , you haue Laboured your selfe to Vtter them . Yea maye we not then thinke , that S. Peter , as it were pointed to you M. Iewel , when he saied , As there were false prophets amonge the people ( of Israël ) so there shall be lying Masters amonge you , 2. Pet. 2. which shall bringe in wicked and damnable sectes ? Verely M. Iewell we maie saye al this and much more most truly of you , and that therefore ( your excessiue lying and Vntrue dealing being so euident ) neither your doctrine is to be tolerated , neither your Person euer more to be credited .

For what kinde is there of Authors , that you haue not Corrupted , Misalleaged , False Translated , and by one meanes or other Abused ? What Faulte in writing is there that you haue not in this your Replie committed ? I speake not off your Whole Replie , but of that Parte only which I at this present haue taken in hande to examine , that is , the Effect and Principall Pointes of your foure first Articles .

A briefe Summary of M. Iewelles Allegatyons . As touching your Authors and Allegatyons , which you haue so Ambitiously Multiplyed through out your booke , and whereby the simple are much abused , beholding therein a Countenaunce of Lerning , but not able to descrie the Couered Falshood , you haue Falsifyed and Misalleaged the Doctours and holy Fathers of Christes Church , the Decrees of Councelles , the lawes of Emperours , the Ecclesiasticall Histories , the Schoolemen , and other good Writers a numbre . You haue falsifyed and mangled the very Text of holy Scripture , namely of S. Paule ☞ * in one Chapter ix . times as the Reader maye see in the thirde Article fol. 107. and in certaine leaues folowing . The Text of D. Hard. falsified . You haue Altered the Text of D. Harding , not when you alleage his whole text alonge in the diuisions , as you cal them ( for that you sawe well , were to much open a legerdemaine ) but in the Text of your Owne Replie , when you Repete his wordes pecemele , to confute them . For there lo , sometime you adde a worde , and then dispute against your owne Addition ( as Art. 3. fol. 62. b. 63. a ) at other times you quite Alter his wordes and meaning , and so you Replie against that whiche he neuer saied . This lewdenesse you haue committed in many and sondry places of this parte of your Replie , especially in the .3 . Article . Namely fol. 117. fiue times in one place . In the Letter I. Other particularites of this your dealing are noted to the Reader in the Table of this booke . But brefely to geue you a vewe thereof , beholde M. Iewell what Authors and of howe diuerse sortes you haue in so thicke Allegatyons Missealleaged , and Abused . I note you withall the leafe and page of this Booke , where you shall finde them eche one so declared and proued to the eye .

The holy Fathers by you thus vsed or rather misuded are . Doctours Stories , and other good Authors missealleaged by M. Iewell .

The Historiographers , with whom also you haue so dealed , ● are

Other good Authors bothe olde and newe , whom you haue in like maner and with the like Sincerite alleaged , are .

What Councells you haue in like maner falsified and Misalleaged , it maye be sene , Art. 1. fol. 28. b. 37. a. Art. 4. fol. 37. a. 40. b. 71. b. 74. b. In alleaging your Ciuill Lawes and decrees of the Canon lawe howe you haue partly to a wronge vnderstanding drawen them , Councels and Lawes missealleaged . either of your owne ignorance , or of lawyers misse information , partly quite mangled them and falsified them , you maye beholde M. Iewell , touching the first , our Answer to your Replie concerning Iustinians Constitution Art. 3. fol· 77. & seq. and touching Appeales Art. 4. fol. 103. & 104. concerning the later point , the lawes of Iustinian Art. 4. fo. 51. a. 52. b. 53. b. of Honorious fo. 79. a. & b. and the decrees Artic. 4. fol. 115. and. 176. b.

The Schoolemen likewise , Durandus , Schoolemen Abused The Cause of M. Iewelles so many and thicke Quotatyon● . Art. 3. fo. 87. b. Thomas Aquinas . fol. 88. b. and Lyra. fo. 103. b. you haue Alleaged for your purpose , but falsely and Corruptely . By such falshood and Sleighte , you haue Multiplied your Allegations , and furnished your booke with Quotations , not caring howe or what you brought , so that the Margyn were stuffed . These Quotatyons you vsed as a Call for birdes . With them you Tolled and Bayted your Reader . Who taketh in gladly the Bayte of Authorite , but seeth not the Hooke of Falshood and Vntruthe wherewith you Choke him . For this purpose you haue a knacke to macke sundry Allegations which are but one . As in the fourthe Article . fol. 6. a. you doe most Ambitiously . Also Artic. 1. fol. 27. and Art. 3. fol. 105. b. By such shewe of lerning you thought to winne credit . And vnder the Visarde of the Fathers and Councels , of Histories and Lawes , of Authors bothe olde and newe , you thought to plaie the part of a Lerned Writer and of a true Teacher . But the visarde being now plucked of , your Vntrue Alleagatyons discouered , your Bonowed Fethers pilled awaye , you wil remaine not only for opinion of good lerning as pilde as AEsops dawe , but also for farder Credit off your Worde , you will stande ( I feare ) for yanckeroute . Verely if Truthe maye preuaile , as she euer hath and will preuaile , you for your Vntruthes ( except you redresse them ) are no more to be acompted for a Teacher of Truthe , but to be taken for ( as S. Peter termeth suche ) a Lying Master .

Of your other yehauyour and Dealing M. Iewel , if I should put you particularly in minde , what faulte is there of an honest , discrete , and vpright writer to be auoyded , that you haue not incurred , and either Ignorantly or wilfully committed ? Your Ouersightes touching the Storie , Time , and Practise of the Churche are Greate and Many . The greate Ouerfightes of M. Iewel . I reporte you and the Reader to these places for example thereof Art. 3. fol. 82.83 . b. Art. 4. fol. 39. b. 42. a. 44. b. 94. a. 140. b. 160. b. 162. b. 164. b. 174. b. Howbeit this maye procede of Ignorance , and is Excusable .

He claimeth by heretikes . But that you should Claime by Open Condemned Heretikes , and Builde your Proufes vpon their sayinges and doinges , what Ignorance can you here pretende , or what Coulour off Excuse can you deuise ? If you remembre you haue done no such thing , Consider I beseche you howe Often and howe Boldely you alleage the Arrians , their sayinges and doinges , in the fourthe Article against the lawfull and dewe Obedience , ( practised by the Carholike bishops whom those Arrians persecuted ) to Christes Vicaire here in earthe , the bishop of Rome . For the readyer vewe hereof , and howe also you Claime by the late Grekes , by Eutychians and by Donatistes , these places noted may pointe vnto you . Art. 1. fol. 13. a. Art. 4. fol. 75. b. 97. b. 109.110.119 . b. 120. a. & b. 126. a. 130. b. 162. b. 163. a. 169. a. If suche Plea maye commende your Action , then must you seeke for an other Benche , and an other Courte . The Catholike Churche admitteth no such witnesses to speake or to geue euidence . We haue not so Lerned Christ , M. Iewell . This point verely of all lewdenesse , is the lewdest .

An other sleight or Crafte you haue to destroye a Truthe by telling a Truthe . Example whereof you maye beholde . Art. 4. fo. 160. a. and 161. a. By that meanes you make many longe Processes , to very shorte Purposes .

Your maner of writing is beside so Dissolut Loose and Negligent , His loose Maner of writing . or els your selfe so Impotent , in contradiction , that many times you are founde Contrary to your selfe , sometime in plaine wordes to Confute your selfe , at other times by the force of your owne reasoning to be Cast in your owne Turne . For a viewe of particular examples in eche one of these faultes , I remitt you to these places . For the first , Art. 1. fo. 11 , b. 31. b. Art. 2. fo. 50. b. Art. 4. fo. 62. a. 158. a. For the seconde , Art. 1. fol. 19. a. 25. a. 32. a. Art. 4. fol. 149. b. 150. a. For the thirde and laste . Art. 2. fo. 45. a. Art. 3. fol. 85. b. 111. b.

His wronge and lewde maner of Reasoning . Your maner of Reasoning , is so beside al Reason , and so Squarre from the Purpose , that thereof arise a huge and mayne Number of lewde and Fonde Argumentes , which by the Force of your talke must nedes be Concluded . Verely no lesse fonde and foolish , then those whiche you made and framed your selfe also in your Replie vnder the name of D. Hard●nges Arguments . Only this is the difference . Those in your Replie were fathered of you vpon D. Harding vntruly ( as it hath bene otherwhere declared vnto you ) and were your owne , By M. Rastel .li. 2. cap. 4. but made in sporte , or els to make sporte : These which are to be founde in this Booke , are rightly youres , and of your selfe made in good earnest . I haue only brought them in to their Forme , and exemplifyed them by the like . Wherein howe vprightly I haue dealed , I make euery Indifferent Reader , yea your selfe M. Iewell , if any Indifferency be in you , the Iudge . Where and in what places these your lewde and fonde Argumentes maye be founde , bicause the number is not conuenient to be noted in this place , I remitt you to the Table of this Booke , and to the first letter of your owne Name therein . Other generall examples of your lewde Dealing , or rather Wrangling , you maye consider M. Iewell ( not to trouble you with longe serche thereof ) Art. 1. fo. 4. b. 17. b. Art. 2. fol. 46. b. Art. 3. fol. 62. b. 121. b. Art. 4. fol. 3. a. 30. a. 56. b. 133. b. 185. a. 186. b. His lewde dealing and wrangling . Many particular faultes might yet more be noted . But for a shorte viewe thereof , I remitt you M. Iewell , or any other the Reader hereof to the Table of this booke , and the place , of it aboue saied . All which layed together , euery Indifferent Reader and your selfe also shall see , except in suche thinges you can see and not see , that bothe for your Vntrue Allegatyons of the Fathers , the Councelles , the very text of holy Scripture , the Ecclesiastical histories , the Lawes and Decrees , and of other good Authors bothe Olde and Newe , as also for your vnhonest and lewde dealing through your whole maner of writing , neither your Person is to be Credited , and muche lesse your doctrine to be tolerated .

By this also it may appeare , that I haue rightfully Returned Vntruthes vpon you , The Title of this booke . and haue therefore not without good Cause Intitled this my small labour . A Returne of Vntruthes vpon M. Iewell &c. which yet I haue so Intitled not only for this Cause , but also and that Principally bicause the Vntruthes which in these Foure Articles , to the Number of a Hundred twenty and fyve , you haue charged and turned vpon D. Harding I haue discharged him thereof , and Recharged or Returned them vpon you againe . The other newly Charged vpon you to the number of certain hundreds , are suche as you haue committed in your Replie , in such places as you labour to Iustifie and to proue , that thinge , which in the Margin of D. Hardinges text you noted for Vntruth . Which paynes you take not allwaies , and therefore allwaies I enter not to your Replie , but shortly do Iustifie the vntruthe , and so Returne it vpon you for a Slaunder . Only you take that paynes , when the Vntruthe requireth such a proufe or declaration : As when it contayneth a Matter of Doctrine . And at suche times I enter your Replie , and what I finde touching that vntruthe , I goe thourough with it , especially in the thirde and fourthe Articles . In the other two why I do not so , the reason shall be geuen in my Preface to the Reader .