KNowen be yt to all men that rede or heare thys writyng benethe : that on the sondaye next after the feste of seynt Peter / that we call lammesse in the yeare of our lorde a . M. CCCC . and .vij. yeare . I william of Thorpe beyng in preson in the castell of Saltwode was brought before Thomas Arundell Archebysshope of Canterbury and Chaunceler than of Ingland . And when that I came to hym / he stoode in a great chamber & moch people aboute hym : & when that he sawe me he went faste into a closett byddyng all seculer men that folowed hym to go forth from hym sone / so that no man was left than in that closet but the Archebysshop hymselfe and a physician that was callyd Malueren person of seynt Dunstanys in London & other two personys vnknowen to me whych ware minysterys of the lawe . And I standyng before them by & by the Archebysshop seyd to me William / I know well that thou hast thys twenty wynter & more trauelyd about besyly in the north contre & in other diuerse contres of Ingland sowyng about false doctrine / hauyng great busynesse yf thou myght wyth thyne vntrew reachyng & shrewyd wyll for to enfecte and poyson all this lande . But through the grace of god thou art now wythstondyd & brought in to my warde / so that I shall now sequester the from thyne euyll purpose / & lett that to enuenyme the shepe of my prouynce . Neuer the lesse seynt Paul seythe Yf it may be as ferre as in vs ys we owe to haue peace wyth all men . Therfore William yf thou wyll now mekely & of goode harte / without onye feynyng / knele downe & leye thy hande apon a booke and kysse yt promysyng feythfully as I shall here charge the that thou wilt submytthe to my correccyon / & stande to myne ordinaunce / & fulfyll yt dewly by all thy connyng & power : thou shall yet fynde me gracyouse vnto thee . Than seyd I to the Archebysshop . Syr syns ye deme me an heretyke out of beleue wyll ye gyue me here audience to tell my beleue . And he seyd / ye tell on . And I seyd I beleue that ther is not but one god almyghty / & in thys god heed and of thys godhede a● thre persones / that is the fader / the sonne and the sothe faste holy goste . And I beleue that all thes thre persones ar euen in power & in connyng and in myght full of grace & of all goodnesse For what ●o euer that the father dothe or can or wyll / that ●hyng also the sonne dothe & can and wyll : and in all their power connyng & wyll the holy goste ys equall to the father & to the sonne . Ouer thys I beleue that thrugh counsell of thys moste blessyd trinite in moste conuenient tyme before ordenyd for the saluacyon of man kynde the seconde peerson of thys trinite was ordenyd to take the fourme of man / that is the kynde of man . And I beleue that thys seconde person our lorde Iesu christe was conceiuyd thorough the holy goste into the wombe of the moste blessyd virgyn Marye wyth out mannys seede . And I beleue that after nyne monethys Christe was borne of thys moste blessyd vergyn wythout ony peyne or brekyng of the closter of hyr wombe / and wythout fylthe of hyr virginite . And I beleue that Christe our sauyour was circuncisyd in the eyghte daye after hys byrthe in fulfillyng of the lawe / and hys name was callyd Iesu whych was callyd of the angell before that he was conceiuyd in the wombe of Marie hys moder . And I beleue that Christe as he was about thyrty yeare olde was baptyzed in the fludde of Iordane of Iohn baptist / & in lykenesse of a dove the holy goste descendyd there vpon him : and a voyce was herde from heuen seiyng . Thou art my welblouyd sonne In the I am full pleasyd . And I beleue that Christe was moeuyd than by the holy goste for to goo in to desert / & there he fastyd fourty dayes and fourty nyghtes wythout bodely meate & drynk . And I beleue that by and by after hys fastyng whan the manhode of Christe hongeryd the feende came to hym and temptyd hym in glotony / in veynglory / and in couetyse / but in all thoes temptacyons Christe concludyd the fende and with stoode hym And than wyth out tariyng Iesu began to preache & to seye vnto the people / doo ye penaunce / for the realme of heuen ys now at hande . And I beleue that Christe in all hys tyme here lyued moste holyly and taught the wyll of hys fader moste trewly / and I beleue that he sufferyd therefore moste wrong fully greatyst repreuys and despysynges . And after thys whan Christe wolde make an ende here of hys temporall lyfe . I beleue that in the daye next before that he wolde suffer passyon on the morne : In fourme of brede & of wyne he ordenyd the sacramente of hys flessh & hys blood that ys hys owne precyous body / and gaue it to hys apostles for to eate / commaundyng them & by them all their after comers : that they sholde doo it in thys fourme that he shewyd to them / vse them self and teache and commone forthe to other men & woomen thys moste worshypfull holiest sacrament / in myndefulnesse of hys holyest lyuyng & of hys moste trew teachyng / & of hys wilfull & pacient sufferyng of the moste peynfull passion And I beleue that thus Christeour sauyour / after that he had ordenid thys moste woorthy sacrament of hys owne preciouse body : he went forthe wyllfully agenst hys enemyes / and he sufferyd them most paciently to ley their handys moste violently vppon hym / and to bynde hym / & to leade hym forthe as a thefe / and to skorne hym / and buffet and all to blow or fyle hym with their spittinges Ouer this I beleue that Christ suffered most mekely and paciently his enemies for to dinge out with sharpe scourges the bloude that was betwene his skyn & his flesh : yee without grudginge Christ suffered the cruell Iewes to crown hym with most sharp thornes and to strike him with a rede . And after Christ suffered wicked Iewes to draw him out vpon the crosse and for to nayle hym there vpon fote and hande . And so thorow this pitiefull naylinge Christ shed out wilfully for mans lyfe the bloude that was in his vaynes . And then christ gaue wilfully his spirite in to the handes or power of his father / and so as he wolde & when he wold Christ deid wilfully for mans sake vpon the crosse And notwithstandinge that Christ was wilfully / paynfully and most shamfully put to deeth as to the worlde / there was left bloude and water in his herte as he before ordened that he wolde shede out this bloude and this water for mans saluacion . And therfore he suffered the Iewes to make a blinde knight to thrust him in to the herte with a spere and this the bloude and water that was in his hert Christ wolde shede out for mans loue . And after this I beleue that Christ was taken downe from the crosse and buried And I beleue that on the thrid daye by power of his god heed Christ rose again from deth to life . And the .xl. daye ther after I beleue that Christ ascended vp in to heuen and that he there sitteth on the right hande of god the father almyghty . And the tenth daye after this vp goinge he sente to his apostles the holy goost that he had promysed them before . And I beleue that Christe shall come and iudge all mankinde / some to euerlastinge peace and some to everlastynge paynes . And as I beleue in the father and in the sonne that they are one god almyghty / so I beleue in the holy goost that is also with them the same god almighti . And I beleue an holy chirche that is all thei / that haue byn and that now are and alwayes to the ende of the worlde shal be a people the which shall endeuer them to knowe & to kepe the commaundementes of god / dredinge ouer all thynge to offende god and lovynge and sekynge most to please hym . And I beleue that all they that haue had and yet haue and all they that yet shall haue the foresayde ververtuous surely standynge in the belefe of god / hopyng stedfastly in hys mercifull doynges / continuynge to their ende in perfect charite / wilfully / paciently and gladly soferynge persecucions / by the example of Christ chefly and his apostles / all these haue their names wryten in the boke of life . Therfor I beleue that the gaderynge together of this people lyuynge now here in this lyfe ys the holye chyrche of god feyghtynge here on erth agaynst the fende / the prosperyte of the worlde and their fleshely lustes . Wherfore seyng that all the gadering together of this church before said and euery parte therof nother coueteth nor willeth nor loveth nor seketh any thinge but to eschew the offence of god and to do his pleasynge will : mekely / gladly and wilfully of all myne herte I submitt my selfe vnto thys holye church of christ to be ever buxsom and obediente to the ordinaunce of it and of euery member thereof after my knowlege and power by the helpe of god . Therfore I knowlege now and euermore shall / if god will / that of all my harte and off all my might I will submyt me only to the rule and gouernaunce of them whome after my knowlege I maye perceave by the havynge and vsynge of the beforesayd vertues to be membres of the holy churche . Wherfore these articles off belefe and all other bothe of the olde lawe and of the newe / whiche after the commaundement of god any man oughte to beleue / I beleue verely in my soule as a synnefull deedly wretche of my cunnynge and power oughte to beleue prayenge the lorde god for his holye name for to encrease my belefe and helpe my vnbelefe . And for bycause to the praysynge of goddes name I desyre aboue all thynge to be a faythfull membre of holy churche I make this protestacyon before you all foure that are now here presente / covetynge that all men and women that nowe absente knewe the same / that what thynge so ever before this tyme I haue sayde or done / or what thynge here I shall doo or saye / at any tyme here after . I beleve that all the olde lawe and the newe lawe geuen and ordened by the councell of these thre persones of the trynite were geuen and wrytten to the saluacyon off mankynde . And I beleue that these lawes are sufficient for mans saluacyon . And I beleue every article of these lawes to the entente that these articles were ordened and commaunded of these thre persones off the moste blessed trynyte to be beleued . And therfore to the rule and the ordynaunce off these goddes lawes mekely / gladly and wilfully I submytte me with all myne harte that who ever can or wyll by ouctoryte off goddes lawe / or by open reason / tell me that I haue erred or nowe erre or any tyme here after shall erre in any article of belefe ( fro whyche inceonvenience god kepe me for his goodnesse ) I submytte me to be reconcyled and to be buxum and obedyente vnto these lawes of god and to every article of them . For by auctorite / specyally of these lawes / I will / thorowe the grace of god / be vnyed charytably vnto these lawes . Yee syr and ouer thys I beleue and admytte all the sentences / auctorites and reasons off the saynctes and doctoures accordynge vnto holy scripture and declarynge it truely . I submytte me wylfully and mekely to be ever obediente after my connynge and power to all these saynctes and doctoures as they are obedyente in worke and in worde to god and to his lawe / and forther not to my knowlege no● for any erthly power dignite or state / thorowe the helpe of god . But Syr I praye you tell me yf after youre biddyng I shall laye my hande vpon the boke to the entente to swere thereby ? And the Archebishope sayde to me / yee / wherfore els ? And I sayde to him . Syr a boke is no thynge els but a thynge coupled together of dyuerse creatures / and to swere by any creature both gods lawe and mans lawe is agaynst . But Syr this thinge I saye here to you before these youre clerckes / with my forsayd protestacion / that howe where / when and to whom men are bounden to swere or to obeye in ony wyse after gods lawe and sayntes & trewe doctours according with gods lawe : I will thorow gods grace be euer redy therto with all my conning & power . But I pray you syr for the charite of god that ye will before that I swere as I haue here rehersed to you tell me how or whereto that I shall submytt me : & shewe me wherof that ye will correcte me : & what is the ordinaunce that ye will thus oblige me to fulfyll .

And the Archebishop seid vnto me . I will shortely that nowe thou swere here to me that thou shalt forsake all the opinions which the secte of Lollardes holde / and is slaundred with : so that after this tyme nother pryuely nor apertly thou holde any opinion which I shall after that thou haste sworne reherse to the here . Nor thou shalt fauer no man nor woman / yong nor old that holdeth any of thes foreseid opinions : but after thi knowlege & power thou shalt enforsethe to withstande all soche distroblers of holye chyrche in euery diocese that thou comest in : & them that will not leaue their false and dampnable opinions thou shalt putt them vp publeshyng them and theyr names / and make them knowen to the bishope of the diocese that they are in or to the bishopes mynistres . And ouer this I will that thou preach no more vnto the tyme that I know by good witnesse & trewe that thy conuersacion be soch that thy harte & thy mouth accorde treuly in one contrariyng all the leude learnyng that thou hast taught here before .

And I hearyng thes wordes thought in my harte that this was an vnlefull a sting : & I demyd myself cursed of god / yf I consented hereto & I thought howe Susan seid . Anguyssch is to me on euery syde . And in that I stode still & spake not / the Archebishop seid to me . Answere one wyse or a nother . And I seid . Syr / if I consented to you thus / as ye haue here rehersed to me / I shold become an appelar / or euery bishopis espye / somonour of all Englonde . For & I sholde thus put vp / & publeshe the names of men & women I sholde here in deceive full many persones : ye syr as it is likely by the dome of my conscience I sholde herein because of the dethe both of men & women ye both bodely & gostely . For many men & women that stande now in the treuthe / & are in the waye of saluacyon : yf I shold for the learnyng & reding of their beleue publeshe them & put them therfor vp to bisshopes or to their vnpituouse ministers I knowe some dele by experience that they shulde be so distrobled & diseased with persecucion or other wise that many of them ( I thinke ) wold rather chose to forsake the waye of treuthe than to be traueled skorned & slaundred or punished as bishopes & their ministres now vse for to constreyne men & women to consent to them . But I fynde in no place in holy scripture / that this office that ye wolde now enfeffe me with accordith to ony priste off christes secte / nor to any other christen man . And therfore to do thus werto me a full noyeous bonde to be bounden with & ouer greuouse charge . For I suppose that yf I thus dede many men & women wold / ye syr / might iustly vnto my confusion sey to me / that I wer a traitur to god and to them : syns ( as I thinke in myne hert ) many men and women truste so mekle in me in this case / that I wold not for sauyng of my lyfe do thus to them For yf I thus sholde do full many men & women wolde ( as they might full truely sey / that I hadde fasly and cowerdly forsaken the truthe / & slaundred shamefully the worde of god . For yf I consented to you to do hereafter your will for bonchefe or mischef that may befall to me in this lyfe / I deme in my conscience that I were worthy herefore to be cursed of god & also of all his soynctes / fro which inconuenience kepe me & all christen people almighti god now & euer for his holy name ▪ And than the Archebishop seid vnto me . O thyne harte is full harde endured as was that herre of Pharao / & the deuell hath ouer comen the & peruerted the / & he hath so blynded the in all thy wittes / that thou haste no grace to knowe the treuthe / nor the mesure of mercye that I haue profered to thee . Therfor as I perceyue now by thy folish answere / thou hast no will to leaue thyne olde errours . But I sey to the leude losell / other thou quikly consente to myne ordinaunce & submitte the to stande to my decrees : or by seynt Thomas thou shalt be disgraded / & folowe thy felowe in Smithfelde . And at this seyng I stode styll and spake not / but I thought in myne harte that god did to me a greate grace / yf he wolde of his greate mercy bringe me to soch an ende . And in myne hart I was nothing frayde with this menasing of the archebishop . And I considered there .ij. thinges in him . One / that he was not yet soroufull for that he had made William Soutre wrongfully to be burnt . And as I consydered that the Archebishop thyrsted yet after more sheding out of innocent bloode . And fast therfore I was moved in all my wittes for to hold the archebishop nother for prelate nor for preist of god / & for the myne inward man was thus altogether departed from the archebishop me thought I sholde not haue ony dreade of him . But I was right heuy & soroufull for that ther was none audience of seculer men by : but in myn hart I praid the lord god for to conforte me and strengith me ageinst them that there ware agaynste the sothefastenesse . And I purposed to speake no more to the Archebisshop & his clerckes than me nede behoued : & all thus I praied god for his goodnesse to geue me than & alwaye grace to speake with a meke and an easy spyrit : & what soeuer thinge that I shulde speke that I might therto haue true authorites of scriptures or open reason . And for that I stode thus still & nothing spake / one of the Archebisshopes clerkes seid vnto me .

What thing musiste thou ? do thou as my lorde hath now commaunded to the here .

And yet I stode still & answered him not / and than sone after the Archebishope seid to me . Arte thou not yet bethought / whether thou wilt do / as I haue here seid to the ? And I seid than to hym .

Syr my father & my mother on whose soules god haue mercy ( yf it be his will ) spent mekyll money in diuerse places about my learning for the entent to haue made me a preste to god . But when I came to yeares of discrecion / I had no will to be preiste / & therfore my frendes were right heuy to me / & than me thought their grudging agenst me was so peynfull to me / that I purposed therfor to haue lefte their company . And when thei perceiued this in me they spake some tyme full feire & plesaunt wordes to me : but for that thei might not make me to consent of goode harte to be a preiste / thei spake to me full ofte tymes very greuous wordes / & manassed me in diuerse maners shewing to me full heuy chere . And thus one while in feire maner / a nother while in greuous they wer long tyme as me thought full besy about me or I consentid to them to be a prieste . But at the laste whan in this matter thei wold no longer suffer myne excusacions / but other I sholde consent to them or I sholde euer beare their indignacion / ye / their curse ( as thei seide ) Than I seing this praid them that they wold gyue me licence for to go to them that wer named wyse priestis and of verteuous conuersacion to haue their counsell / and to knowe of them the office & the charge of priesthode . And hereto my father and my mother consented full gladly / and gaue me their blissing and goode leaue to go / and also money to spende in this iourney . And so than I went to tho priestis whome I herde to be of beste name / and of moste holy lyuyng / and beste learnid / & moste wyse of heuenly wisdome : and so I communed with them vnto the tyme that I perceiuyd by their verteuous and continuall occupacions that their honeste and charitable werkis passid their fame wich I herde before of them . Wherfore syr by the example of the doctrine of them / and specially for the godly & innocent workis wich I perceiued than of them and in them / after my conning and power I haue exercised me than and in this tyme to knowe perfectly goddis lawe / hauing a will and a desyre to lyue ther after / willing that all men and women exercised themself feithfully ther aboute . Yf than syr other for pleasure or displeasure of them that ar nother so wyse / nor of so verteuouse conuersacion to my knowlege / nor by comone fame to ony other mannis knoulege in this lande as thes men wer of whome I toke my counsell and informacion : I sholde now forsake thus sodenly and shortely and vnwarnid all the learning that I haue exercised my self in this thirty winter and more . My conscience shulde euer be herewith out of mesure vnquietid / & as syr I knowe well that many men and women sholde be ther throwe greatly troublid and sclaunderid / and as I seid syr to you before . For myne vntrewthe and false cowardnesse many a one sholde be put into full great reprefe / ye syr I drede / that many a one ( as thei might than iustely / wolde curse me full bitterly / and syr I feare not / but the curse of god / wich I sholde deserue here in / wolde bring me to a full euyll ende / yf I continewid thus . And if thorow remorse of conscience I repentid me any tyme retourning in to the waye / wych / you doo your diligence to constreine me now to forsake / ye syr / all the bisshopis of this lande with full many other priestis wolde defame me / and pursew me as a relapse / and thei that now haue ( though I be vnworthy ) some confidence in me here after wolde neuer truste to me though I cowlde teache and liue neuer so verteuously more than I can or may . For if after your counsell I lefte vtterly all my learning / I sholde hereby firste wounde and defyle myne owne soule / and also I shulde here through geue occasion to many men and women of full sore hurting / ye syr as it is likely to me / if I consentid to your will I sholde herein by myne euill example in it / as ferre as in me wer / slee many folke gostely / that I sholde neuer deserue for to haue grace of god to the edifiyng of his chirche nother of my self / nor of none other mannes lyfe : & vndone bothe before god & man . But syr by example chefely of some whos names I will not now reherse / H / of I / P / and B / and also by the present doyng of Philip of Rampenton that is now becomen Bisshop of Lincoln I am now learnid as many mo hereafter thorow goddis grace shall be learnid / to hate & to fle all soche sclaunder that thes foreseid men chefely hathe defyled principally them selfes with . And in it that in them is they haue enuenemid all the chirche of god for the sclaunderous reuokyng at the crosse of paulis of H. P. & of B / & how now Philip Rampenton persewith cristis people . And the feining / that thes men dissemble by worldly prudence keping them cowerdly in their preaching and communyng within the bondis and termis ( wich without blame may be spokyn and shewid out to the moste worldly lyuers ) will not be vnponisshid of god . For to the pointe of trewthe that thes men shewid out some tyme they will not now streche forthe their lyues . But by example eche one of them as their wordis and their workis shewe they besy them thorow their feinyng : for to sclaunder and to persewe Christe in his membres / rather than they will be persewid .

And the Archebisshop seid to me . Thes men the wich thou spekist of now wer foolis and heretiques : whan they wer countid wyse men of the and other soche loselles . But now they ar wyse men / though thou and soche other denie them vnwyse . Neuerthelesse I wiste neuer none / that right seide / that eny while were enuenymed with your contagiousnesse / that is / contaminate and spottid doctrine .

And I seid to the Archebisshop . Syr I thinke well that thes men and soche other ar now wyse as to this worlde / but as their wordis soūdid sometyme and their workis shewid outwardly / it was likely to moue me that they hadde earneste of the wisdome of god / and that they sholde haue deseruid mikell grace of god to haue sauyd their owne soules and meny other mennis if they hadde continewid feithfully in wilfull pouerte and in other symple verteuous lyuyng and specially / if they hadde with thes foreseide vertueis continewid in their besy frutefull sowing of goddis worde : as to many mennys knoulege they occupied them a season in all their wittes full besyly to knowe the plesaunt will of god / trauelyng all their membres full besily for to doo ther after / purely and chefely to the praising of the moste holy name of god / and for grace of edificacion and saluacion of cristen people But wo worthe false couetise / and euill counsell / and tyrannye by wiche they and many men and women ar ledde blyndely into an euill ende .

Than the Archebisshop seide to me . Thou & soche other losellis of thy secte wolde shaue your berdis full nere for to haue a benefice . For by Iesu I knowe none more couetouse shrewis than ye ar / when that ye haue a benefice . For lo I gaue to Iohn Puruay / a benefice but a myle out of this castell / and I herde more compleintis aboute his couetousnesse for tythes and other mysdoyngys than I didde of all men that wer auauncid within my diocesse .

And I seid to the Archebisshop . Syr puruay is nother with you now for the benefice that ye gaue hym / nor he holdith feithfully with the learnyng that he tawght and writ before tyme and thus he shewith hym self nother to be hote nor colde : and therfore he and his felaws may sore drede that if they torne not hastely to the waye that they haue forsakyn : parauenture they be put out of the nombre of cristis chosyn people .

And the Archebisshop seid . Though Puruay be now a false harlot I quyte me to hym / but come he more for soche cause before me : or we departe I shall knowe with whome he holdith . But I sey to the. Whiche ar thes holy men and wyse of whome thou haste takyn thyne informacion .

And I seid . Syr / Master Iohn Wicleff was holden of full many men the greatiste clerke that they knewe than lyuyng / and therwith he was namid a passing ruely man and an ynnocent in his lyuynge and herefore greate men commonyd ofte with hym and they louyd so his learnyng that they writ it / and besily enforsid them to rule themself there after . Therfore syr this foreseid learnyng of Master Iohn Wicleff is yet holden of full many men and women the moste agreable learning vnto the lyuing and teachyng of Criste and of his Apostles / & moste openly shewing and declaring how the chirche of Criste hathe ben and yet shulde be rewlid and gouernid . Therfore so many men and women couet this learnyng / & purpose / thorough goddis grace to conforme their lyuyng lyke to this learnyng of Wicleff . Master Iohn aiston tawght and writ accordingly and full besily wher and whan / and to whome that he myght / and he vsid it hymself right perfitely vnto his lifes ende . And also Philip of Rampenton while he was a chanone of Lacester / Nicolas Herforde Dauy Gotray of Pakring monke of Bylande and a master of diuinite / and Iohn Purnay and many other wich wer holden right wise men & prudent tawcht and writ besily this forseid learnyng and conformid them therto . And with all thes men I was ofte right homely and communyd with them long tyme and ofte : and so before all other men I choes wilfully to be infourmyd of them and by them and specially of Wicleff hymself / as of the moste verteuous & godly wyse men that I herde of or knewe . And therfore of hym specially and of thes men I tooke the learnyng that I haue tauchte and purpose to lyue there after ( if god will ) to my lyues ende . For though some of thes men be contrary to the learnyng that they taucht before I wote well that their learning was trewe wich they tauchte : and therfore with the helpe of god I purpose to holde and to vse the learning wich I harde of them / while they sat on Moyses chaire / and specially while that they sat on the chaire of Criste . But after the werkis that they now do I will not doo with goddis helpe . For they feyne and hyde and contrarie the trewthe wich before they taucht out plenily and trewly . For as I know well when some of thes men hathe ben blamyd for their sclaunderous doyng / they graunte not that they haue tauchte a misse or crryd beforetyme / but that they were constreinyd by peine to leaue to tell out the sothe / and thus they choese now rather to blaspheme god than to suffer awhile here persecucion bodely for sothefastnesse that Christe shed out his harte bloode for .

And the Archebisshop seid . That learnyng that thou callist trewthe and sothefastnesse is open sclaunder to holy chirche / as it is prouyd of holy chirche . For all be it / that Wicleff your autour was a great clerke & though that many men helde hym a perfite lyuer yet his doctrine is not approuyd of holy cherche but many sentencis of his learnyng ar dampnyd as they well woorthy ar. But as touching Philip of Rāpeton that was first chanone and after Abbot of Lacester which is now bisshop of Lincoln : I tell the that the daye is comen for wich he fastyd the euene . For nother he holdeth now / nor will holdethe learnyng that he thaughte whan he was a Chanon of Lacester . For no bisshop of this lande persewith now more sharpely them that holde thy waye than he doeth .

And I seid . Syr full many men and women wonderith vpon hym and speakith hym mekill shame and holdith him for a cursid enemye of the treuthe .

And the Archebisshop seid to me . Wherfore tarieste thou me thus here with soche fables / wilt thou shortely ( as I haue seid to the ) submit the to me or no ?

And I seid . Syr I tell you at one worde / I dare not for the drede of god submitt me to you after the tenour and sentence that ye haue aboue rehersed to me .

And than as if he hadde ben wrothe he seid to one of his clerkis . Fetche hider quikely the certificacion that came to me fro Shrewisbury vnder the bailiues seale witnessing the errours & heresies which this losell hath venemously sowen there .

Than hastely the Clerke tooke out / and leid forthe on a cupborde diuerse rollis and writingis / among which ther was a litle one / which the clerke deliuered to the Archebisshop . And by & by the Archebisshop redde this rolle conteinyng this sentence .

¶ The thyrde sonday after easter the yere of oure lorde . M. CCCC . and seuen / William Thorpe came vnto the towne of Shrewisbury / and thorow leaue graunted vnto him to preache : He said openly in seynt Chaddis chirche in his sermone / that the Sacrament of the altare after the consecracion was materiall brede . And the ymages shulde in no wise be worshiped . And that men shulde not go on pilgremages . And that priestes haue no title to tythes . And that it is not lefull for to swere in any wise .

And whan the Archebishop had red thus thys rolle / he rolled it vp ageyn / and said to me . Ys this holsome learnynge to be amonge the people ?

And I said to him . Syr I am both ashamed on their behalfe and right soroufull for them that haue certified you thes thinges thus vntrewly : for I preached neuer nor taughte thus priuely nor apertly .

And the Archebishop said to me . I will gyue credence to thes worshipfull men which haue writen to me and witnessed vnder their sealis there amonge them . Though thou now deniest this : wenist thou that I will geue credence to the ? Thou losell hast trobled the worshipful cominalte of Shrewisbury / so that the bailives and cominalte of that towne haue writen to me praynge me that am Archebishop of Caunterbury / primate and Chaunceler of Englond / that I will vouchsafe to graunte them / that yf thou shalt be made ( as thou art worthy ) to suffer open Iouresse for thyne heresyes / that thou maye haue thi youresse openly ther among them : so that all they whome thou and soche other loselles haue ther peruerted / may thorow feare of thy dede be reconsyled ageyn to the vnite of holy chyrche . And also they that stande in true faythe of holy churche may thorowe thy dede be more stablisshed therein . And as yf thys askyng hadde pleased the Archebishop / he said . By my thrifte this hartye prayoure and feruente requeste shall be thought on .

But certeynly nother the prayer of the men of Shrewisbery / nor the manassynge of the Archebishoppe made me any thinge afrayde . But in rehersyng of this malice and in the hearynge of it my herte greatly reioysed and yet dothe . I thanke god for the grace that I than thought and yet thinke shall come to all the chirche of god here thorowe / by the speciall mercyfull doynge of the lorde . And as hauynge no dreade of the malice of tyrauntes / by trustynge stedfastly in the helpe of the lorde with full purpose for to knowlege the sothefastnesse / and to stande thereby after my connyng and power I said to the Archebishop . Syr yf the truthe of gods worde might now be accepted as it sholde be / I doute not to proue by lykely euidence / that they that are famed to be out of the faythe of holy church in Shrewisbery & in other places also are in the true faith of holy chirche . For as their wordes sounde / and their workes shewe to mannis iugement dreading & louyng faithfully god their will / their desyre / their loue / & their besinesse are moste sett to dreade to offende god / & to loue for to please him in true & faithfull keping of his commaundementes . And agene they that are said to be in the faithe of holy chirche in Shrewisbery and in other places / by open euidence of their proude / enuiouse / maliciouse / couetouse lecherouse and other foule wordes & workes nother knowe nor haue will to knowe nor to occupye their wittes truely and effectuously in the righte faith of holy churche . Wherfore all these nor none that folowe their maners shall ony tyme come verely in the faithe of holy churche / excepte they enforce them more truelye to come in the waye whiche nowe they despyse . For these men and women that are nowe called feyth full and holden iuste / nother knowe nor will exercyse them selfe to knowe of faythfulnesse one commaundement of god . And thus full many men and women now / and specially men that are named to be principall lymmes of holy church stiere god to greate wrathe and deserue his curse for that they call or holde them iuste men whiche are full vniuste as their vicyouse wordes / their greate customable sweringe / and their slaunderouse and shamefull workes shew openly and witnesse . And herefor soche viciouse men and vniuste in theire owne confusyon call them vniuste men and women / which after their power and conning besy them self to lyue iustely after the commaundement of god . And where syr ye say / that I haue distrobled the cominalte of Shrewisbery and many other men & women with my teaching / yf it thus be / it is not to be wondred of wise men / syns all the cominalte of the cyte of Ierusalem was destrobled off christes awne person that was very god & man and most prudent precher that euer was or shal be . And also all the Synagoge of Nazareth was moued ageynste Christe and so fulfylled with ire towardes him for his preachinge / that the men of the Synagoge rose vp and cast ch●iste out of their cyte / and ledde him vppe to the toppe of a mountayne for to caste him doune ther hedelinge . Also accordingly hereto the lord witnessyth by Moses / that he shall put dissension betwixt his people and the people that contrarieth and persewith his people . Who syr is he that shall preache the treuthe of goddes worde to the vnfeithfull people / and shall let the sothe fastenesse of the gospell & the prophecye of god almightye to be fulfilled ?

And the archebishop said to me . It foloweth of thes thy wordes / that thou & soche other thinkest that ye do right well for to preach & teach as ye do without authorite of any bishope . For ye presume / that the lorde hath chosen you only for to preache as faithfull disciples and speciall folowars of Christe

And I said . Syr by authorite of gods lawe & also of seintes & doctours I am learned to deme / that it is euery priestes office and deutie for to preache besily frely and truely the worde of god . For no doute euery priest shold purpose fyrst in his soule & couett to take the order of priesthode chefly for to make knowen to the people the worde of god after his conning & power approuyng his wordes euer to be true by his vertuous workes and for this entent we suppose the bishopes and other prelates of holy chirch shold chefely take & vse ther prelacie . And for the same cause / bishopes sholde gyue to priestes their orders . For bisshopes sholde accept no man to priesthode except that he had good will & full purpose / & wer wel disposed / & well learned to preache . Wherfore syr by the bidding of Christ & by example of his moste holy lyuyng & also by the witnessinge of his holy apostles & prophetes we are bounde vnder full great peyne to exercyse vs after our conning and power ( as euery prieste is like wise charged of god ) to fulfyll dewly the office of priesthode . We presume not here of oure selfes for to be estemed ( nother in oure owne reputacion nor in none other mannes ) feithfull disciples and speciall folowers of Christe : but syr / as I said to you before / we deme this by authorite chefely of goddes worde / that it is the chefe deutie of euery prieste to besy them feithfully to make the law of god knowen to his people / and so to comune the commaundement of god charitably howe that we may beste / where / whan / & to whome y● euer we may is our very deutie . And for the will & besynesse that we owe of dewe dette to do iustely our office thorow the steyring and speciall helpe ( as we truste ) of god / hoping stedfastely in his mercye / we desyre to be the feithfull disciples of christe : and we praye this gracious lorde for his holy name / that he make vs able so to please hym with deuoute prayers and charitable priestly workes / that we may obteyne of him to folowe him thankfully .

And the Archebishop said to me . Lewde losell wherto makist thou soche veyne reasones to me . Asketh not seynt Paul / how sholde priestes preche / except they be sent ? But I sent the neuer to preche . For thy venemous doctryne is so knowen thorow out Englond / that no bishop will admitt the for to preache by witnessyng of their letters . Why than lewde ydiote willest thou presume to preach / syns thou art not sent nor licensed of thy souereyn to preach . Saith not seynt Paule / that subictes owe to obeye their souereyns / and not only good and vertuous : but also tyrauntis that are vicious ?

And I said to the archebishop . Syr / as touching your letter of licence or other bishopes / whiche ye say we sholde haue to witnesse that we wer able to be sent for to preache ? we knowe well that nother you syr / nor ony other bishop of this lande will graunte to vs ony soche letters of licence but we sholde oblige vs to you & to other bisshopes by vnlefull othes for to passe not the bondes & termes which ye syr or other bishopes wil lymyt to vs . And sins in this matter your termis be some to large / & some to streite we dare not oblige vs thus to be bounden to you for to kepe the termes / which you will lymitt to vs / as ye do to friers & soch other prechers : & therfor though we haue not your letter sir nor letters of other bishops writen with ynke vpon perchement : we dare not here for leaue the office of preching / to which preching all priestes after there connyng & power are bounde by diuerse testimonies of gods lawe & off great doctours without ony mencion making of bishopes letters . For as mekell as we haue taken vpon vs the office of priesthode ( though we are vnworthy thereto ) we come & purpose to fulfyll it with the helpe of god by authorite of his owne lawe / and by witnesse of great doctours & seintes accordingly hereto trusting stedfastly in the mercye of god . For that he commaundeth vs to do the office of priesthode / he will be our sufficient letters & witnesse / if we by example of his holy lyuing & teaching specially occupye vs feithfully to do our office iustly / ye the people to whome we preache / be they feithfull or vnfeithfull shall be our letters that is our witnesse berers . For the treuthe where it is sowen maye not be vnwitnessed . For all that are conuerted & saued by learninge of goddes worde and by working therafter are witnesse berers / that the trewith and sothfastnesse whiche they harde and dyd after is cause off their saluacion . And ageyn / all vnfeythfull men & women which herde the treuthe tolde out to them & wolde not do there after : also all they that might haue herde the treuthe and wold not heare it / because that they wolde not do thereafter / all thes shall beare witnesse ageinst them selfes / & the treuth which they wold not heare / or els harden & despised to do thereafter thorow their vnfeythfulnesse : is and shall be cause of their dampnacion . Therfore syr / syns this forseide witnessing of god & of diuerse seintes & doctours / & off all the people good & euyll sufficeth to all true prechers : we thinke that we do not the office of presthode / if that we leaue our preaching / because that we haue not or maye not haue dewly bisshopes letters to witnesse that we are sent of them to preache . This sentence approueth seynt Paul / whe● he speketh of him selfe & of feithfull apostles & disciples saing thus . We neade no letters of commendacion as some other preachers do / whiche preache for couetousnes of temporall goodes and for mennes praising . And wher ye say syr that paul biddeth subiectes obey their souereyns / this is soth / & may not be denied . But ther is .ij. maner of souereyns / vertuous sufferēys & vicious tyrauntes . Therfore to thes last souereyns nother men nor women that be subiecte owe to obey in .ij. maners To vertuous suffereins & charitable / subictes owe to obey wilfully & gladly / in hearing of their good counsell / in consenting to their charitable biddinges / & in werkynge after their frutefull workes This sentence Paul approueth wher he saith thus to subiectis . Be ye mindefull of your souereyns that speke to you the worde of god / and folow you the feithe of them whos conuersacion you know to be verteuous . For as Paul saith after / thes souereyns to whome subiectis owe to obeye in folowing of their maners / worke besily in holy studiyng / how they may withstande and destroye vices firste in themself / and after in all their subiectis / and how they may bes●e plante in them vertues . Also thes souereyns make deuoute and feruent prayers for to purchase grace of god / that they and their subiectis may ouer all thing dreade to offende hym & to loue for to please hym . Also thes souereyns to whome Paul biddeth vs obey as it is seid before lyue so vertuously that all they that will lyue well may take of them goode example to knowe and to kepe the commaundmentis of god . But in this foreseid wyse / subiectis owe not to obeye nor to be obedient to tyrauntis / while they ar vicious tyrauntis / syns their will / their counsell / their biddingis / and their workis ar so vicious that they owe to be hatid and lefte . And though soche tyrauntis be masterfull and cruell in bostyng and manasing in oppressions & diuerse punysshyngis : seynt Petyr biddeth the seruauntis of soche tyrauntis to obey mekely to soche tyrauntis / suffering paciently their malicious cruelnes . But Petyr counsellith not ony seruant or subiecte to obey to ony lorde or prince or souereyn in ony thyng that is not pleasing to god .

And the Archebesshop said vnto me . Yf a souereyn bidde his subiecte doo that thing that is vicious / this souereyn herein is to blame : but the subiecte for his obedience deserueth mede of god For obedience pleasith more to god than ony sacrifice .

And I said . Samuel the prophete said to Saul the wickyd kyng / that god was more pleased with the obedience of his commaundement than with ony sacrifice of bestis . But Dauid saith / and seynt Paul / and seynt Gregory accordingly to gither / that not onely they that doo euyll is worthy of dethe and dampnacion : but also all they that consente to euyll doers . And syr the law of holy chirche teachith in the decrees / that no seruant to his lorde / nor childe to the father or mother / nor wyfe to hyr husbond / nor monke to his abot ought to obey except in lefull thingis & lawfull .

And the Archebisshop said to me . All thes allegingis that thou bringest forthe ar not els but proude presumptuousnes . For hereby thou enforcist the to proue / that thou and soche other ar so iuste / that ye owe not to obeye to prelatis . And thus agenst the learning of seynt Paul that teachith you not to preache but if ye wer sent / of your owne authorite ye will go forthe and preache and doo what ye liste .

And I said . Syr / presentith not euery prieste the office of the apostles / or the office of the disciples of Christe ? And the Archebisshop said ye . ¶ And I said . Syr as the tenthe chaptre of Mathew and the laste chaptre of Marke witnesseth / Christe sent his apostles for to preache . And the tenthe chaptre of Luke witnesseth that Christe sent his two and seuentie disciples for to preache in euery place that Christe was to come to . And seynt Gregory in the comon lawe saith / that euery man that goth to priesthode takith vpon hym the office of preaching : for as he saith / that prieste steirith god to great wrathe of whos mouthe is not herde the voice of preaching And as other more gloses vpon Ezechiel witnesse / that the prieste that prechith not besily to the people shall be parte taker of their dampnacion that perisshe thorow his defaute : and though the people besauyd by other speciall grace of god than by the priestis preachyng / yet the priestis / in the they ar ordenyd to preache & preache not / as before god they ar mā●●ears For as ferre as in them is / soche priestes as preache not besily and trewly sleeth all the people gostely in that they with hold from them the worde of god that is lyfe and sustenaunce of mennis soules . And seynt Isidore saith Priestis shall be dampnid for wickidnesse of the people / if they teache not them that ar ignorant : or blame not them that ar synners . For all that worke or besinesse of priestis standith in preaching & teaching that they edifye all men as well by connyng of feithe / as by discipline of workes / that is vertuous teaching . And as the gospell witnessith : Christe said in his teaching . I am borne and comen in to this worlde to beare witnesse to the trewthe and he that is of the trewthe hearith my voice . ¶ Than syr syns by the worde of Christe specially / that is his voice / priestis ar commaundid to preache : what so euer prieste that it be that hathe not goode will and full purpose to doo thus / and ableth not hymself after his conning and power to doo his office by the example of Christe and of his apostles / what so euer other thing that he dothe displeasith god . For lo seynt Gregory saith / that thing lefte / that a man is bounde chefely to doo / what so euer other thing that a man dothe / it is vnthankefull to the holy goste : and therfore saithe Lincoln . That prieste that preachith not the worde of god though he be siene to haue none other defaute / he is Antichriste and Sathanas / a night thefe / and a day thefe / a slear of soules and an angell of light toornid in to derkenesse Wherfore syr / thes authorites and other well considerid / I deme my self dampnable / if Iother for pleasure or displeasure of ony creature applye me not diligently to preache the worde of god . And in the same dampnacion I deme all those priestis which of goode purpose and will enforse them not besily to doo thus / and also all them that haue purpose or will to lett ony prieste of this besinesse .

And the Archebisshop said to those thre clerkis that stoode before hym . Lo syrs / this is the maner and besinesse of this losell and soche other to pike out soche sharpe sentencis of holy scripture and of doctoris to mainteine their secte and lore ageinste the ordinaunce of holy chirche . And therefore losell it is that thou couetist to haue ageyn the psalter that I made to betakyn from that at Canturbery / to recorde sharpe versys a geinst vs . But thou shalt neuer haue that psalter / nor none other boke / tyll that I know that thy harte and thy mouthe accorde fully to be gouernid by holy chirche .

And I said . Syr all my will and power is and euer shall be ( I truste to god ) to be gouernyd by holy chirche

And the Archebisshop askid me / what was holy chirche .

And I said / syr I tolde you before / what was holy chirche : but syns ye aske me this demaunde : I call Christe and his seyntis holy chirche .

And the Archebisshop said vnto me . I wote well that Christe and his seyntis ar holy chirche in heuene / but what is holy chirche in erthe ?

And I said . Syr though holy chirche be euery one in charite / yet it hathe two partis . The firste and principall parte hath ouer comen perfitely all the wretchednesse of this lyfe / and reigneth ioyfully in heuene with Christe . And the tother parte is here yet in erthe / besily and continually fighting day and night ageinst temptacions of the fende / forsakyng and hatyng the prosperite of this worlde / despising and withstonding their flesschely lustis / which onely ar the pilgrimes of Christe / wandering toward heuene by stedfast feithe / and groundid hope / and by perfite charite . For thes heuenly pilgremis may not / nor will not be lettid of their goode purpos by the reason of eny doctours discording fro holy scripture / nor by the fluddis of any tribulacion temporall / nor by the winde of any pride of boste or of manasing of ony creature / for they ar all faste grounded vpon the suer stone Ch●iste / hearing his worde and louing it / exercising them feithfully and continually in all their wittes to doo there after .

And the Archebisshop said to his clerkis . Se ye not how his harte is endured / & how he is traueled with the deuill / occupiyng hym thus besely to allege soche sentencis to mainteyne hys errours and heresies ? Certeyn thus he wold occupie vs here all daye / if we wold suffer hym .

One of the clerkes answered . Syr / he said right now that this Certificacion that came to you fro shrewisbery is vntrewly forged ageinst hym . Therfore Syr / appose you hym now here in all the pointis which ar certified ageinst hym and so we shall heare of his owne mouthe his answers / and witnesse them .

And the Archebisshop tooke the certificacion in his honde / and looked theron a while / & than he said to me .

Lo here it is certified ageinst the by worthy men and feithfull of Shrewisbery that thou preachedst there openly in seynt Chaddis chirche / that the Sacrament of the altare was materiall brede after the consecracion . What saist thou ? Was this trewly preached ?

And I said / Sir I tell you trewly that I touchid nothing there / of the Sacrament of the altare / but in this wyse / as I will with goddis grace tell you here . As I stoode ther in the Pulpet / besiyng me to teache the commaundement of god / ther knylled a sacring bell / and therfore mekill people toornid awaye hastely / & with great noyse ran fro towardis me . And I seyng this said to them thus . Goode men ye wer better to stand here still & to heare goddis worde . For certis the vertue & the mede of the moste holy Sacrament of the altare standith mekill more in the beleue thereof / that ye ought to haue in your soule / than it dothe in the outward sighte thereof . And therfor ye were better to stande still quietely to heare goddis worde / because the thorow the hearing the rof men come to very trewe belefe . And other wyse syr I am certein I spake not there / of the woorthy Sacrament of the altare .

And the Archebisshop said to me . I beleue the not what so euer thou saist / syns so worshipfull men haue witnessed thus ageinst the. But syns thou denyest that thou saidist thus there / what saist thou now ? Restith there / after the consecracion in the ofte materiall brede or no ?

And I said / Sir / I knowe in no place in holy scripture / where this terme / materiall brede / is writen : and therfore Sir when I speake of this matter / I vse not to speake of materiall brede .

Than the Archebisshop said to me . How teachest thou men to beleue in this sacrament ?

And I said / Sir as I beleue myself so I teache other men .

He said / tell out pleinly thy beleue hereof .

And I said with my protestacion . Sir I beleue that the nyght / before that Christe Iesu wold suffer wilfully passion for man kynde on the morne after / he toke breade in his holy and moste worshipfull handis lifting vp his eyes / and gyuyng thankis to god his father / blessed this breade and brake it / and gaue it to his disciples saiyng to them . Take and eate of this all you ? This is my body : And that this is and ought to be all mennis belefe Mathew / Marke / Luke / and Paul witnessith . Other beleue sir haue I none / nor will haue / nor teache / for I beleue that this sufficeth in this matter . For in this beleue with goddis grace I purpose to lyue and dye / knoleging as I beleue and teache other men to beleue / that the worshipfull sacrament of the altare / ys the sacramente of Christis flesche and his bloode in fourme of breade and of wine .

And the Archebisshop said to me . It is sothe that this Sacrament is very Christis body infourme of breade . But thou and thy secrete chist it to be substaunce of brede . Thynke you this true teachinge ?

And I said . Nother I nor ony other of the secte that ye dampne / teache ony other wyse than I haue tolde you / nor beleue other wise / to my knowynge . Neuerthelesse syr I aske of you for charyte / that ye will tell me here pleynly / how ye shall vnderstonde this text of saynt Paule / wher he sayth thus . This thinge feale you in youre selfe that is in Christe iesu / while he was in the fourme of god . Sir / calleth not Paule here the fourme of god / the substaunce or kynde of god ? Also Sir : saith not the chirche in the houres of the most blessed virgine accordi●ly hereto / where it is written thus . Thou auctour of healthe remembre / that sometyme thou toke of the vndefyled vyrgyne the fourme off oure bodye . Tell me for charyte therfore / whether the fourme of our bodye be called here the kynde of oure body or no ?

And the Archebishop said to me . Woldest thou make me to declare this texte after thy purpose / syns the chirche hathe nowe determyned / that there abideth no substaunce of breade after the consecracion in the sacrament of the altare ? Beleuest thou not on this ordinaunce off the churche ?

And I said . Syr what soeuer prelates haue ordened in the churche : our beleue standith euer hooll . I haue not herde that the ordinaunce off men vnder beleue / shulde be putt in to beleue . And the Archebishop saide to me . Yf thou hast not learned this before / learne now to knowe that thou art out of beleue : if in this matter and other thou beleuest not as holy chirche beleueth . What saye doctours treatinge of this sacrament ?

And I said . Syr seynt Paule that was a greate doctour of holy chirche speakynge to the people and teaching them the right beleue of this moste holy sacrament calleth it breade that we breake . And also in the Canon of the masse after the consecracion / this most worthy sacrament is called holy breade . And euery prieste in this lande after that he hathe receyued this sacrament saythe in thys wyse . That thynge that we haue taken with oure mouthe / we praye god that we maye take it with a pure and clene mynde . That is as I vnderstonde / we praye god / that we maye receyue thorowe very beleue this holy sacrament worthely . And syr seynt Augustine saith . That thing that is sene is breade : but that mennys feithe asketh to be informed of / is verye christes body . And also Fulgence an ententyfe doctour saith . As it were an errour to saye that Christe was but a substaunce / that is very man & not very god / or to say that Christe was very god & not very man / so is it ( this doctour sayth ) an errour to say / that the sacrament of the altar is but a substaunce . And also syr acordingly hereto in the secrete of the midde masse on Christe masse day it is writen thus . Idem refulsit deus / sic terrena substancia nobis conferat qd diuinum est : which sentence syr with the secrete of the forth ferye quatuor temporum septembris . I pray you syr declare here openly in english .

And the Archebishop said to me . I perceiue well ynough wher about thou art / & how the deuell blyndeth the / that thou may not vnderstond the ordinaunce of holy churche / nor consent therto . But I commaunde the now answere me shorly . Beleuest thou that after the consecracion of this forsaid sacrament there abideth substaunce off breade or not ?

And I said . Sir as I vnderstond it is all one to graunte or to beleue / that there dwelleth substaunce of breade / & to graunte & to beleue / that this most worthy sacrament of christes owne body is one accident without subiecte . But syr for as me kell as your asking passeth myne vnderstonding I dare nother denye it nor graunte it / for it is skole mater / aboute which I besyed me neuer for to know it : & therfore I commit this terme / accidens sine subiecto / to those clerkes which delyre them so in curiouse & suttill sophistrie / because they determine oft so difficulte & straunge maters / & wade & wander so in them / from argument to argument with pro & contra / till that they wote not where they are nor vnderstonde not themselve . But the shame that thes proude sophistrers haue to yelde them to men and before men maketh them ofte foolis / and to be concluded shamefully before god .

And the Archebishop said to me . I purpose not to oblige the to the suttyll argumentes of clerkes / syns thou art vnable therto : But I purpose to make the obeye to the determinacion of holy churche .

And I said . Syr by open evidence and great witnesse a thousand yeare after the incarnacion of Christe the determinacion which I haue here before you rehersed was accepte of holy church as sufficient to the saluacion of all them that wolde beleue it faithfully and worke therafter charitably . But syr the determinacion of this mater which was brought in syns the fende was losed by frier Thomas agayn / specially calling the moste worshipfull sacrament of Christes owne body an accident without subiecte / which terme syns I knowe not that goddes lawe approueth it in this mater I dare not graunte / but vtterly I denye to make this friers sentence or ony soche other my beleue / do with me god / what thou wilt .

And the Archebisshop saide to me . Well / well / thou shalt saye other wyse or that I leaue the.