Sir , I haue here receiued three questions from you , which you haue taken vpon you to proue by Argument , I haue here written downe , and will relate them vnto you : First you say you will proue the Pope to be Antichrist : 2. The Church of Rome to be the whore of Babylon : 3. That St. Peter was not Bishop of Rome as we hold ; These questions are such as are not fit to be named , much lesse to be disputed or answered ; they are deliuered in tearmes very vnseemely and vnmannerly : for what can be more vnfit or vnseemly then this , that you should call the holy Father the Pope Antichrist , and the Church of Rome the whore of Babylon now in these dayes , when it pleaseth the Kings Maiestie to giue the Pope that honour , as to send and sue to his holinesse for a dispensation for the marriage of thr Prince his sonne : I pray you therefore let vs haue no more of these questions , but let vs haue some other , or else propound them in other tearmes , as that the Church of Rome is not the true Church or the like : As you see I haue done , in that I haue vsed milder words in my questions : holding that you protestants in England , haue no Church nor faith .

Seeing it is your pleasure thus to speake at large in loose speech , and not in strict Syllogisme , I will answer you in your kinde . First , I maruell that you are not ashamed to slaunder the Kings Maiestie with honouring of the Pope , by suing to him for dispensation , which we all know he will neuer doe ; because he hath not onely said , that he is Antichrist , but also publikely in his learned writings proued him so to be , and the Romish Church to be the whore of Babylon . I warrant you our King will marry his Son and aske the Pope no leaue , if the other party will aduenture it as well as he . It is most intollerable , that you should so boldly slaunder his Maiestie .

Secondly , for the tearmes of my questions , which you call vnmannerly , they are the same which it pleaseth Gods spirit to vse in the holy Scriptures ; and his holinesse hath in his wisedome been pleased to stile the Pope and Church of Rome by the same titles , as I shall quickly proue , if you will vndertake to answer me . And therefore you are too bold to taxe Gods spirit of vnmannerlinesse : But perhaps this is a shift of yours , to put off our disputation vpon these poynts which pay you home , with a cleanely excuse of vnmannerly tearmes : yet it shall not serue your turne ; for the more vnseemly that the questions are , the more disgrace it will be to me , and the more hard taske to proue them : and to you it will be more credit and ease to defend the contrary , so that this is no excuse for you at all . Thirdly , in that you doe charge vs here at home so manifestly contrary to common sense , that we haue neither Church nor Faith , when as we beleeue and professe all holy truthes taught in the holy Scriptures , which by your selues cannot be denyed to be Gods infallible word . But I pray you let vs leaue all loose and idle discourses , and come to a strict forme of Disputation , writing downe the Arguments and answers which doe passe betweene vs . Your taske which you haue vndertaken is to proue , that we haue no Church nor Faith : let vs heare your arguments briefly .

Well , that we may come quickly and closely come home to the matter , let me aske you a question , and doe you answer me , that I may ground my Arguments vpon your owne words , and I shall quickly proue against you my assertion , and make the truth of it plainely appeare . First I aske whether the true Catholike Church be visible ?

The true Catholike Church is not visible , neither can it be seene with eyes of any mortall man on earth .

Marke Gentlemen , he will deny this Canon : he saith the Catholike Church is not visible , which I will proue to be against all reason .

Indeed if I should say that it were visible , considering it as it now is , I should speake against all reason ; For the greatest part of it being Saints in heauen are without the reach of mans eyes , and cannot be seene .

You doe but equiuocate of purpose to decline all Disputation ; you know that I meane , not the Church triumphant in heauen , but the Catholike Church militant on earth .

Nay , rather doe you equiuocate or worse ; for to say that the Catholike Church is militant on earth is as absurd , as to say that all mankinde , euen the whole vniuersall race of Adam are now liuing on earth , when reason and experience teach vs , that the greatest part are dead , and many also yet vnborne : I hope you know that the word Catholike , signifies vniuersall : and therefore the Catholike Church is vniuersall company of the Elect and faithfull , and includes in it euery one whosoeuer hath beene , or is , or shall be hereafter a true beleeuing member of Christ , and a●l they cannot bee seene at once on earth , because they neuer were altogether on earth . The militant number of them on earth , are the least part of them .

You doe wrangle to auoyde D●sputation ; I therefore tell you ; that by the Catholi●e militant Church , I vnderstand the true Church of Iesus Christ , which all true Christians here on earth ought to heare and obey , as it is the pillar and ground of tru●h : now answer whether you hold that to be visible or inuisible ?

How is it visible , and how is it inuisible ?

Euery such true Church hath in it elect and faithfull men , professing outwardly in word , and practise true Christian religion , who doe belong to the Catholike Church , and are true liuely members of Christ : It hath also some hypocrites and carnall professors , which doe also make an outward show and profession of christianity , but are not truely ingraffed into Christ , by vnion and communion of the Spirit , neither haue the true holy sauing Faith , and by consequent are not members of the true Catholike Church . Now the men who professe religion in the Church , and are the members of it , if we consider them as they are men , and as they practise and performe outward duties of christians , as preaching and hearing of the word , administring and receiuing the Sacraments publike outward worship and such like , they are visible : But as for the election faith , spirituall , and in word graces and deuotion in the one sort , by which they are indeed true christians , & belong to the Catholike Church : and the hipocrisie and carnall corruption lurking inwardly in the other sort , by meanes whereof , they are seperated from communion with Christ in spirit , they are things inuisible , and to be discerned spiritually , not with bodily eyes . Thus euery true Church is partly inuisible , to wit , in respect of the spirituall graces , which make men true Christians indeed ; and partly visible , to wit , in respect of the outward profession , common both to elect and reprobates , to faithfull men and hypocrites .

No sooner was the answer giuen but Mr. Smith as one full of anger , protested with vehemency of words , that now he saw indeed , there was neither Church nor Faith among Protestants ; they were all so contrary among themselues , neuer agreeing together in any opinion : He affirmed to the standers by , that Doctor Whitakers , Doctor Reignolds , Mr. Perkins , and many other chiefe Protestants did euer grant , that the true Catholike Church was visible . Another Priest sitting by , scornefully repeated the name of Perkins , and spake of him as of a poore silly man , not worthy to be counted among the learned .

Mr Walker moued with the falshood of the one , and the scorne of the other , first answered the scorner , that none could count Mr. Perkins silly and vnlearned , but either out of ignorance or wilfull mallice : and that he knew it to be the fashion of popish Priests , outwardly to sleight & vilifie before the people , such as do most cut and gall them . To Mr. Smith he answered , that if he would grant that Protestants haue a true Church , and the true faith , as truely as that which he affirmed of Doctor Whitakers and the rest was false , he would desire no more for the victorie : Yea ( saith hee ) if you haue read Doctor Whitakers , you know that he holds as I doe ; and that you wilfully and falsely father on him things vntrue .

Mr. Smith enraged with this answer , protested what he had said was true , and the more to perswade the standers by , he added more specially , that Doctor Whitakers doth in his writings maintaine , that the whole essence of the true Church , consists onely in the true preaching of the word , and the right administration of the Sacraments which are things visible .

Sir I doe not loue to contend by oathes and protestations , but by proofes . I will here write downe your wordes ( which he did , and read them in the hearing of all , and asked if hee had not truly written ? and all assented he had : Then hee proceeded thus . ) I doubt not sir , but you haue learned Logick , and doe knowe that the definition of a thing doth expresse the whole essence , and that what a man defines a thing to be , that he holds to be the essence of it : Tell me here doe you not grant this ?

I doe .

Well then , it must be granted , that Doctor Whitaker doth hold that to be the essence of the Church which he doth comprehend in the definition of the Church . Now his definition of the Church is Coelus electorum & fid●lum , A company of elect and faithfull men , and he proues against Bellarmine , that none can be seene with the eye to be members of the Catholike Church , because the elect onely faithfull and godly , belong to it , whose graces are inuisible , and not hypocrites and reprobates , as Bellarmine doth hold . Dare you deny this ?

I am sure he holds as I said before , that the whole essence of the Church consists in true preaching of Gods word , and in administration of the Sacraments .

Because I will not spend time in contesting with you ; let this be the issue before these Gentlemen : let vs send for Doctor Whitakers workes , and if I doe not shew that he doth proue against Bellarmine , that the Catholike Church is inuisible , and that this is a maine point largely disputed by him , and a maine controuersie betweene him and Bellarmine , let mee be branded with the marke of a wilfull lyer , impostore and false prophet . But if I shew it presently before them all out of his owne writings , then shall you confesse your selfe a forger and falsifier , an impostor , and a priest of Baal ; The Gentlemen all confessed that this was faire play , and desired it might bee so . Whereupon Mr. Smith began to draw backe , and shewed himselfe vnwilling , and much affraid to hazard his credit so quickly , and would gladly haue left this point , and fallen into another , But Mr. Walker proceeded on this wise and said : Gentlemen it is true , that Doctor Whitakers maintaines , that the Word truly preached , and the Sacraments rightly administred , are the certaine and infallible notes and markes , by which euery true particular Church may be discerned to bee Christs true church : and you know that the markes of a thing differ from the essence and substance of it : as the signe hanging at the dore of a Tauerne , and shewing that house to be a Tauerne , differs from the Tauerne it selfe : and the habit and Cowle of a Monke or Frier , which is the marke of his order , differs from the Monke himselfe , and is not any part of his essence . I beseech you therefore take notice of the boldnesse and impudency of popish Priests , how they can snatch here and there a speech out of our learned mens writings , without any vnderstanding of it , and thereby make show , as if they had throughly read those Authors ; yea , and can in common talke , and in titles of their printed pamphlets professe , that they haue confuted Whitakers , Reignolds , Field , Perkins , and many others , whose bookes they neuer durst reade throughly , neither haue the hardinesse to sift any of their maine arguments . I assure you , that as you see this which I say here verefied , so I finde it a common thing among them all .

Mr. Smith and all his company on his side were very vnwilling to insist any longer vpon this point , & therfore answered nothing ; but presently proceeded to another question , and asked Mr. Walker Whether the whole militant Church on earth may erre ?

I answer , that this question is captious and ambiguous , and cannot directly in one word negatiue or affirmatiue bee answered : my reasons are these ; First , because the whole militant Church , if such a Church may be acknowledged , is nothing but the whole number of particular Churches militant on earth ; and in diuers points they doe differ among themselues : and it is impossible for any man to finde out the iudgement of them all in euery point , as it is impossible to gather them all at once into one place . Secondly , it may bee said both that it may erre , and also that it cannot erre in diuers respects and considerations , if wee consider it by it selfe alone , as it is militant , and according to the militancy and weaknesse of it ( as I may so speake ) we grant that it may erre , and in euery particular part of it , there may bee found some errors : but if we consider it according vnto the relation and dependance which it hath vpon the Triumphant Church , and the assistance which it hath from Christ , his Prophets and Apostles , vpon whose doctrine and Scriptures it doth wholly cast it selfe , and builds all the doctrines of faith , , so it cannot erre , for in so doing it doth follow infallible guides : euen as the Apostle saith of a man regenerate and borne of God , that he cannot sinne , 1 Ioh. 3. to wit , in the maine , against the maine precepts of the Gospell , Beleeue and Repent , for he cannot fall into impenitency and infidelity , because the seede of God , euen his holy Spirit abides in him : But that he hath sinne , and doth lie if he saith he hath none , to wit , through infirmity and weakenesse of the flesh : So likewise it is truely said of the true Church , and euery part thereof , that as it builds onely on the Scriptures , and doth vrge no doctrine of faith of necessity to be beleeued , but such as the Scriptures teach : So it cannot erre no more then the Scripture , for this is a work of infallible faith . But because all men liuing in the Church ; haue as infirmities of life , so imperfections in iudgement , and some peruersnesse in affections , and therefore may faile in conceiuing some doubtfull and obscure places of Scripture amisse , or in cleauing not so close to the word as they ought , or following their owne affections to much , as we see in all the writings of the Fathers , and in the most part of the generall Councells , in this respect we truly say , that the Church militant may erre .

You doe what you can to keepe off , and not to come to the point ; but I will bring you to it doe what you can if you will answer me this question . Whether the who●e militant Church of England may erre ?

I answer to this as before , that it is a captious and ambiguous confused question , and that this militant Church as the rest may erre and not erre , according to the former diuers respects and considerations .

Whether is the Church of England so tyed to the word of God , and such helps , that it cannot erre nor misinterpret the Scriptures in fundamentall points of Faith ?

I answer , that as in all other particular Churches so in the particular Churches of England , there is a double voice , one of the Church , as shee is the true Church of Christ , and that is both her voice commending the Scriptures , onely to bee beleeued as necessary for sauing knowledge and true faith , and also the voice of GOD plainely speaking in the Scriptures , in this respect she is so tyed that shee cannot erre . There is another voice which the Church vttereth not immediately from her selfe , by the Commission which Christ gaue vnto her ; but by her fraile members , suppose a Synode and assembly of Pastors taking vpon them to determine things doubtfull out of obscure places of Scripture , and to make them more plaine then the Scriptures doe vpon which they build ; This voyce may erre , and by it the Church may be said after a sort to erre in some part , though not wholly , nor finally , nor obstinately : because if it bee a true Church , it will not absolutely and peremptorily determine that which the Scriptures leaue doubtfull : neither will it persist alwayes in the errors if they be deadly , but either the whole number , or at least some in the number of the Church will renounce it ; and so the whole shall not erre finally . This is my answer ; But because I would giue you some ground whereon to fasten , that we may not spend time in questions , but may come to disputation , which is the intent of our meeting ; I will grant you thus much , that the Church of England may erre for a time , and after some manner in a point fundamentall or necessary to saluation . Ground what you can vpon this , and let vs haue some disputation by way of strict Arguments and Syllogismes .

I haue enough out of your owne confession to proue that you haue neither Church nor Faith . And I pray you Gentlemen to marke and take notice , he grants that the Protestant Church of England may erre in a fundamentall point , if in one , then as well in another , and so from one to another till it erre in all , and so haue no faith at all , and hauing no faith it is no Church . Thus you see I haue proued that Protestants haue neither church nor Faith : and therefore I beseech you all take heede of them , who by their owne confession haue forsaken the Catholicke Church and faith , and doe wilfull runne into all damnable errors and heresies , and lead men into destrustion . You see how plainely they are conuinced ; and I appeale to you all , Iudge whether I haue not plainely proued that which I did vnder take , to wit , that they haue neither Church nor Faith , and so are in a most damnable estate .

To these words vttered , with great vehemency and action of the hands and whole body , Mr. Walker standing vp , and putting of his Hat made this reply : First ( saith hee ) though it was your motion , and my desire that I might talke mildly without bitter words : yet seeing hee first breakes out so vnreasonably , and goe about by bitter and reproachfull words and gestures to beare downe the truth : I must craue leaue of these Gentlemen to answer you in your kinde , though it be very vnseemly that in my manner of answer , you may behold the vnseemlynesse of your disputing : and then with like words , voice , and gestures , he answered to this effect : First , where as you say that you haue proued , that which you did vndertake ▪ you shew your selfe without wit or reason : for you are not able to bring one word of reason by way of argument , till I doe lay you a ground , as all here doe see ; and therefore if you seeme to proue any thing , you must thanke me for it , who doe yeeld more then you can proue : Secondly , your argument is without all forme , order , or reason ; for it doth not follow , that euery Church which may erre in one point , may erre in all points at once , and fall wholly away , because God hath promised , that the gates of Hell shall not preuaile against his Church so farre as to put it quite from the foundation , though it may Build stubble and straw vpon the foundation , by erring in some points for a time . Thirdly , though it bee not impossible for the true Church to erre yea though it were granted that it might wholly fall away from all faith : yet it doth not there vpon follow that it doth so , and that now presently it hath no faith , neither is a Church at all : Thus Gentlemen you see how I haue proued this man by his owne speech to bee without wit , reason modesty or honesty , roauing without wit or reason , railing without modesty , and falsly charging vs against all shew of honesty : But I feare me that this kind of Frier-like preaching , is odious and distastfull to all iudicious beholders : I pray you let vs dispute orderly , and according to art : And if you be able to dispute Scholler-like , let vs haue one argument framed into a short Syllogisme .

I warrant you I can make Syllogismes to your small comfort .

Then he with much adoe vttered this Syllogisme , and caused it to be written downe . That Church which hath not the word of God truely preached , and infallibly deliuered vnto it , is not the true Church of Christ : But the Protestant Church is such , Ergo.

I distinguish vpon the Maior proposition : For if you meane the word truly preached , and infallibly deliuered in euery particular point , so that it can neuer erre any manner of way in any such point . I denie the Maior vpon example and warrant from the Apostles : and doe hold that a true Church may for a time haue the word not truly deliuered , and infallibly in some point , and yet be a true Church : But if you vnderstand a totall erring in all points , and a preaching of the whole word vntruly : then is your Minor most false , for Protestant Churches doe not preach the whole word vntruly at any time . Now proue you which of your propositions you please : For in these senses which I haue named both are false .

The Maior is so manifest that it needs no proofe , neither can be denyed , for how is it possible for any Church to be a true Church which hath not the word truly preached in all points .

It is to mee a manifest vntruth , and therefore proue it true if you can ; if you cannot , then yeeld the cause , that is false .

I proue it thus . That Church which hath not the word of God truly preached , but falsely translated , is no true Church . Such is the Church of England . Ergo.

This is no proofe of that proposition which I denyed , and which you did vndertake to proue , and therefore you shew your selfe ignorant in disputing and doe commit that fallacy against the rules of Logicke which wee call Ignorationem elenchi .

It is a true Syllogisme , and proues the maine matter in controuersie , to wit , that you haue no true Church .

But the thing which you were to proue , was that the Church which hath not Gods word truly preached , and infallibly deliuered in euery point at all times , is not a true Church . This because you cannot tell how to proue as you did vndertake , therefore you flee to another new Argument , to which also I doe answer , as I did to the former : First , that the Maior proposition is false : For a Church which hath the word of God falsely or erroneously translated in some parts , and so not truely preached in euery part , may be a true Church . Secondly , if you meane falsely translated , and not truely preached of purpose and wilfully , then the Minor is false , for though the translation of the Church of England may faile and misse of the true meaning of diuers places , ( as all the best translations , especially the vulgar Latine approued by the Romish Church doth , ) yet it is not so erroneously translated of purpose , neither doe all the Preachers thereof build , certainly on such erronious and false translations , but many doe discerne them , and preach and teach the true oppositions ; and the Church alloweth them so to doe , when they shew good reasons for their doings , from the circumstances of the Text.

But I will shew plainly by diuers Examples , that you haue diuers places of Scripture falsly translated in your translation of set purpose , and wilfully contrary to the words of the Hebrew Text , contrary also to the Greeke and Latine , receiued in all ages and Churches heertofore .

You threaten largely in wordes which are but winde ; but indeede you can neuer performe that which you say . Let vs see if you bee able to shew any part of our translation , wherein one word is falsely translated of purpose : I desire no more but to ioyne a Combat with you hand to hand about the Hebrew text , and about the truth of our translation , and the agreement of it with the Originall .

I shall quickly proue what I say , and what you require . First , I haue a plaine example , Malachi 2. 7. where your translators read the words thus , The Priests lippes should keepe knowledge , and they should seeke the Law at his mouth . First this translation is false , because it is contrary to the Hebrew text , wherein the words are Iishmeru they shall keepe , and Iebakshu they shall seek : and not , they should keepe , nor , they should seeke . Also it is contrary to the Greeke , wherein the words are , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , and to the Latine translation of St. Hierome , which is Custodient , and requirent . Secondly , it teacheth heresie and false doctrine , namely ; that Gods Priests , & they who sit in Moses Chayre , may erre , contrary to the words of Christ who commands his Disciples to heare all such as sit in Moses Chayre , because they shall not erre , but their lips shall preserue knowledge . Thirdly , it is thus corrupted of purpose , to gainsay the infallibility of the Pastors of the Church , who doe succeed in the Chayre of the Apostles , and to blinde the peoples eyes , that they may not see the certainty and infallibility of iudgement in the Priests and Pastors who sit in Moses Chaire , & how they are bound to seek the Law at their mouth : but may follow any vpstart teachers which separate from the Catholicke Church . Thus you see Gentlemen all , how plainely I haue proued that the Church of England hath of purpose corrupted the Scriptures , and therefore is no true Church .

Indeed if that which you say were true , you did speake something to the purpose ; but great words and protestations cannot make truth to be falshood , nor falshood truth , as for the Example which you cite out of our English translation . Mal. 2. 7. I deny it to be contrary to the Hebrew text : yea I will easily proue both from the Hebrew words , which you haue here shewed in the Hebrew Interlinear Bible , and also from the whole scope , and all circumstances of the place , that the English is the best translation , & more perfect then either the Greek or Latine . First , though the Hebrew words Iishmeru & Iebakshu be of the Futuretense , yet this doth not proue : that they should be translated so in our tongue , because you cannot but know , if you haue any skill in the Hebrew tongue , that the future tense in Hebrewe , sometime simply , and sometime by meanes of Vau conuersiue signifies time , either perfectly or imperfectly past ; somtimes it stands for the Optatiue , Potentiall , and Subiunctiue moode ; therefore our translation is not different , nor irregular from the Hebrewe , which is the originall . Secondly , it was neuer the purpose of Gods spirit in that place , or by these words to teach , that the Lawe should alwayes bee taught truly and infallibly by the Priests and Pastors who succeede Moses , or the Apostles locally in the Church by a continued succession : for that is a falshood contrary to the experience of all ages : this very place confutes it most euidently ; For the Priests vnto whome the Prophet here speaks in these places were Leuites , and succeeded Aaron in the Priesthood : and yet they were departed out of the way they caused many to fall in the law by their corrupt glosse , and their abuse of the Couenant of Leui. As it appeares in the next words immediately following : yea some of them had sacrificed to Idolls , as Iosephus shewes in his History of those times , and therfore the Lord threatens to corrupt their seed by cutting off the male progeny , and to cast the dung of their Sacrifice in their faces : so that the Priesthood of Phineas should by a sister married into the Tribe of Iudath to one of Dauids line fall to Christ , who desended of her , and hee should take it away to himselfe for euer as is intimated in the 3. verse of the same Chapter . So then it is no heresie but Gods holy truth , that Priests succeeding in the place and office of Aaron and Moses may erre and haue erred : Moset his Chaire in which the Scribes and Pharisies did sit , was the seat wherein they were wont to read the Law of Moses , and the expositions of the Prophets to the people , and therfore what they there did teach was true , and Christ commanded his Disciples to obey it : But in their owne glosses and traditions they erred damnably , & made void Gods Law , Math. 13. 4. 16. 12. and their Doctrine our Sauiour called soure leauen , and warned his Disciples to beware of it . Thirdly , they who translate the words thus : The Priests lippes shall keepe knowledge , and they shall seeke the Law at his mouch : Did neuer intend to shew thereby , that God did make here a promise , that so it shall bee for euer , but onely to shew that this is the Law and Commandement of God , teaching what the Priests and People should doe and ought to doe , euen as in the Commaudement , Thou shalt haue no other Gods but me . The words doe not promise , that the Israelites should alwaies acknowledge and worship Iehouah the true God alone , ( for the euent shewed the contrary within 40. payes ) but shew what they ought to doe ; but the words are a coms mandement recited , not a promise made , the wordof the 4. verse shew . Therefore our English translation is most perfect of all , shewing not onely the sense and meaning of the Law , but also how it did binde the Priest and People , and how they ought to obey it . Thus you see how your example doth make for vs against your selfe .

Howsoeuer other translations run , I am sure our English is in sense most sound & Orthodoxe . That translation which counsels Nabuchadnezar to redeeme his sins by righteousnesse , is ( as the words doerun ) senslesse and against all reason ; For God neuer appointed that mens sinnes should bee redeemed ; but his will is , that they should bee mortified and destroyed , and he so hates them , that hee cannot leaue them vnpunished , but will haue iust vengeance to be executed for them , eithervpon the sinner himselfe , or on his surety . If you vnderstand the words ( as you seeme to vrge them ) that Nabuchadnezar a wicked Heathen King , should by his own righteousnesse redeeme himselfe from his sins ; you doe make Daniel a teacher of heresie and blasphemie : for it is no lesse then blasphemy , to hold that an Idolatrous Pagan may by his owne righteousnesse redeeme himselfe : it makes void the promise of Christ the Redeemer . But our English translation doth teach excellent truth ; to wit , that a true conuert ought not only to beleeue in Christ , and by faith to put on the Robe of Righteousnesse , that therin he may appeare righteous before God , and comely in his sight ; but also to breake off his sinfull course of life , and neuer to goe on any longer in any knowne sinne , as Papists doe , in hope of absolution by confession and pennance . And therefore I doubt not , but the word in the originall will be more agreeable to our translation , when wee come to see and examine it , if you be pleased to let me see your Hebrew Bible .

Loe here in the originall the word is in the Caldee Perok , which signifies onely to redeeme , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as the Greeke translation renders it : and the Latine Redeeme .