AN
ANSWERE
To
the
demaunds
of
a
great
Prelate
,
touching
the
Hierachy
of
the
Church
,
and
the
just
defence
of
Priviledged
,
and
Religious
men
.
MY
LORD
:
I
Am
not
able
to
expresse
the
obligation
which
I
haue
to
you
,
by
reason
of
the
Commandement
which
you
vouchsafed
to
lay
vppon
me
;
which
yet
notwithstanding
is
both
sweet
and
sharpe
.
Sweete
,
in
regard
that
it
comes
from
you
,
whom
I
doe
so
highly
honour
,
as
well
in
regard
of
the
eminent
quality
which
you
hold
in
the
Church
of
God
,
as
by
reason
of
your
rare
vertues
,
and
besides
for
that
you
are
pleased
to
loue
me
cordially
,
and
more
then
I
shall
euer
be
able
to
deserue
.
But
yet
sharpe
withall
,
because
it
bringeth
a
complaynt
with
it
,
and
sheweth
a
most
bitter
roote
,
which
hath
sprowted
forth
,
and
produced
in
the
heart
of
many
some
little
aversion
from
Priviledged
persons
,
and
Religious
men
;
and
which
hath
filled
the
mindes
of
many
with
a
kinde
of
sharpnesse
,
and
euen
of
contempt
,
and
hate
against
them
.
Yea
the
matter
is
past
on
so
farre
,
that
many
of
them
haue
armed
themselues
,
with
a
certayne
fervour
and
zeale
,
and
haue
put
themselues
into
combate
,
against
those
other
,
as
against
the
enemies
of
their
persons
,
or
at
least
,
as
against
the
enemies
of
their
authoritie
,
their
power
,
and
their
greatnesse
.
And
yet
certainly
it
seemes
,
it
would
haue
beene
more
honourable
,
euen
to
fight
for
them
,
as
for
their
Children
,
to
protect
them
as
their
Orphanes
,
and
Pupills
,
to
haue
set
vppon
the
Wolfe
who
threatned
them
,
being
their
sheepe
,
rather
then
to
haue
beaten
them
themselues
;
for
hauing
perhaps
a
little
strayed
from
the
rest
of
the
flocke
,
if
yet
indeede
they
haue
strayed
at
all
.
Alas
,
it
will
not
be
vnfitly
done
to
feare
,
that
the
same
Per
zelum
legis
,
legem
impugnabat
,
&
in
Deum
,
Dej
amore
peccabat
.
I
pray
God
of
his
great
goodnesse
,
to
defend
vs
from
this
great
misery
,
for
it
is
one
of
the
most
permitious
and
irremediable
michiefes
of
all
others
,
if
a
man
perswading
himselfe
that
he
seeketh
nothing
but
God
,
doe
yet
indeede
vnder
that
beleefe
,
seeke
himselfe
,
and
suffer
himselfe
to
be
transported
by
some
passion
,
for
such
a
one
is
a
kind
of
incorrigible
man
,
and
whilst
hee
thinketh
to
merit
much
,
he
looseth
all
:
Qui
errat
,
quo
magis
progreditur
,
But
now
since
it
hath
pleased
you
to
tell
me
,
that
many
of
our
Lords
the
Prelates
of
France
,
haue
this
firme
beleefe
,
that
Priviledged
and
Religious
men
,
haue
as
it
were
,
conspired
against
their
authority
;
and
desire
to
abase
and
weaken
their
power
,
to
rayse
vp
and
strengthen
their
owne
Priviledges
,
vpon
the
diminution
and
ruyne
of
Episcopall
powers
;
I
will
not
speake
to
you
,
as
to
you
;
but
I
will
doe
it
to
you
as
to
them
;
or
rather
(
if
it
please
you
)
I
will
doe
it
by
you
to
them
;
but
yet
with
so
great
respect
,
and
by
way
of
discourse
so
full
of
honour
,
of
candour
,
and
of
truth
,
that
God
willing
,
no
man
shall
haue
just
cause
of
complaint
by
it
.
And
to
the
end
that
this
good
fortune
may
happen
to
me
,
and
that
God
may
inspire
me
with
his
grace
,
I
doe
in
mine
owne
heart
,
desire
your
holy
and
paternall
Benediction
.
I
demaund
not
of
you
(
for
the
particular
which
I
haue
in
hand
)
any
grace
or
fauour
,
nor
the
sweete
effects
of
your
friendship
;
nor
any
thing
indeede
,
but
meere
justice
,
yea
and
euen
rigour
,
if
you
will
(
sauing
that
you
being
so
good
,
can
hardly
be
rigorous
to
any
)
and
that
you
may
make
no
account
of
my
reasons
,
but
according
to
the
true
value
of
them
;
and
by
the
just
weight
of
a
minde
which
is
not
pre-occupated
,
or
possessed
by
any
contrary
opinion
:
nor
wrapped
vp
in
certaine
jealousies
,
and
vntrue
reports
;
nor
inflamed
with
the
false
fire
of
passion
,
which
may
be
ouer-cast
with
zeale
;
nor
yet
pricked
on
by
any
discontentments
,
but
of
a
minde
intirely
free
,
from
all
these
things
;
and
which
weigheth
reason
by
the
ballance
of
the
Sanctuary
;
and
judgeeth
of
the
whole
businesse
,
as
in
the
presence
of
God
;
and
as
being
to
render
an
account
to
the
Divine
Majesty
,
of
all
his
actions
;
for
the
true
way
of
treating
well
the
affaires
of
God
,
is
to
treate
them
so
,
as
belongeth
to
such
affaires
;
and
to
banish
from
thence
all
kinde
of
humane
interest
,
and
all
that
which
may
sauour
any
way
of
earth
.
But
now
,
before
I
will
plunge
my selfe
more
deepely
into
this
sea
,
which
is
tossed
by
so
many
windes
,
and
into
the
handling
of
this
truth
,
which
is
opposed
by
so
many
men
,
it
commeth
into
my
thought
,
that
I
must
here
doe
that
,
which
was
anciently
remarked
by
Tertullian
,
to
haue
beene
done
,
by
those
Primitiue
Christians
,
when
they
were
persecuted
much
;
for
their
enemies
caused
the
God
of
the
Christians
to
be
painted
,
after
a
very
strange
and
barbarous
manner
:
for
it
was
in
the
figure
of
a
man
,
appareled
with
a
large
loose
garment
,
full
of
Majestie
,
vpon
the
toppe
whereof
,
as
vpon
the
shoulders
,
the
head
of
an
Asse
was
put
,
with
a
booke
in
his
hand
.
The
feete
which
did
appeare
vnder
the
fringe
of
his
Robe
,
had
vppon
them
these
Wordes
,
which
were
written
in
letters
of
gold
,
Deus
Christianorum
Ononychites
.
Now
vppon
this
ground
the
Pagans
build
strong
discourses
,
in
prejudice
of
God
and
of
truth
;
and
made
the
Church
so
ridiculous
,
and
did
so
disadvantage
the
faith
of
Christ
,
that
it
was
not
possible
to
do
it
more
:
Vidimus
in
foro
(
sayth
Tertullian
)
&
risimus
,
&
formam
,
&
nomen
.
Quod
colimus
nos
,
Deus
vnus
est
.
But
yet
me
thinkes
(
saith
he
)
it
is
but
reason
,
that
it
should
first
bee
vnderstood
,
whether
indeede
we
doe
adore
that
fantasticall
thing
,
or
no
;
and
men
should
first
be
agreed
vpon
the
matter
in
fact
,
before
they
should
put
their
wits
into
such
a
full
carriere
,
and
giue
themselues
law
and
liberty
to
say
that
which
is
sayd
;
and
indeede
all
that
to
which
they
haue
a
minde
,
tearing
in
peeces
that
white
and
innocent
Robe
of
Truth
.
It
is
greatly
to
be
feared
,
least
the
passion
of
some
particuler
men
,
may
haue
chalked
out
,
and
framed
some
very
deformed
face
,
for
the
representing
of
this
particular
,
which
we
haue
in
hand
;
and
for
the
shewing
it
forth
in
ill
posture
,
and
with
an
aspect
of
great
disadvantage
,
and
setting
it
also
in
a
false
light
.
They
say
,
that
these
Priviledged
persons
haue
a
minde
to
oppresse
the
authority
of
our
Lords
the
Prelates
,
that
they
destroy
the
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
,
that
they
invest
the
authority
which
was
established
by
the
Apostles
,
that
they
are
tyed
too
close
vpon
the
Pope
(
and
of
this
for-sooth
,
they
make
a
mortall
sinne
)
that
they
exalt
themselues
aboue
Bishops
;
that
they
forsake
the
care
of
Parishes
,
and
draw
all
to
themselues
;
that
they
abuse
their
Priviledges
,
and
become
insolent
,
and
too
independant
vppon
their
Ordinaries
;
that
they
despise
Ecclesiasticall
Parsons
and
Curats
,
whom
they
vndermine
;
that
they
follow
not
the
Maximes
of
the
Country
,
and
the
Priviledges
of
the
Gallian
Church
,
that
they
fill
the
best
Chayres
of
the
Kingdome
,
and
in
fine
,
that
they
make
themselues
petty
Kings
.
Having
thus
made
up
this
Picture
,
and
given
such
a
colouring
to
it
(
as
is
used
by
the
great
Bassaw
,
who
ordinarily
makes
all
his
,
full
of
night
,
and
deepe
shadowes
and
darkenesse
)
having
I
say
framed
the
face
of
this
businesse
,
after
this
manner
,
they
put
men
then
,
into
an
Alarum
,
they
cry
out
and
Preach
,
yea
and
excommunicate
in
many
places
;
they
print
Bookes
,
and
they
doe
wonders
.
What
,
say
they
,
is
it
fit
that
men
band
themselues
thus
against
Bishops
?
is
it
fit
to
put
the
Church
in
Scisme
?
that
poore
Religious
men
should
be
so
full
of
obstinacy
and
ambition
?
that
without
punishment
they
should
bring
confusion
unto
that
order
,
which
hath
beene
established
by
our
Predecessours
,
and
a
World
of
such
discourses
as
these
,
which
are
received
and
beleeved
as
Oracles
,
and
indubitable
truths
.
I
wil
therfore
say
with
Tertullian
,
to
such
as
shall
haue
figured
or
rather
dis-figured
us
in
this
fashion
,
before
the
eyes
of
my
Lords
the
Prelates
,
that
first
they
should
in
earnest
striue
to
know
,
whether
that
be
true
or
no
,
whether
or
no
we
adore
this
Orient
Sun
,
and
this
interest
of
our
owne
,
and
whether
our
designes
and
pretences
aime
at
that
.
For
otherwaies
it
is
to
frame
an
ougly
thing
at
pleasure
,
and
it
is
like
setting
up
a
Quintaine
or
some
man
of
wood
,
so
to
learne
to
make
thrusts
of
the
Launce
,
and
of
language
at
it
,
when
yet
in
the
meane
time
all
this
is
done
with
disadvantage
,
to
the
service
and
glory
of
God
?
Wee
men
should
first
seeke
to
know
whether
indeede
it
bee
the
Arke
of
truth
,
or
else
the
Chest
or
Coffer
of
our
owne
interest
,
which
wee
adore
,
and
then
afterward
they
might
cry
out
at
ease
,
and
without
danger
of
errour
.
My
Lords
,
in
such
a
businesse
as
this
,
a
man
may
eyther
seeke
the
sole
Glorie
of
GOD
,
and
the
good
of
soules
which
are
bathed
in
the
blood
of
Iesus
Christ
,
who
is
the
true
Bishop
and
Pastor
of
our
soules
,
or
else
hee
may
follow
a
passion
,
being
over-cast
and
gilt
with
a
shewe
of
zeale
,
and
set
foorth
with
the
apparant
ornaments
of
vertue
;
or
else
in
fine
,
hee
may
giue
himselfe
way
to
bee
perswaded
to
certayne
things
,
which
hee
takes
indeede
to
be
very
true
,
though
yet
in
very
truth
they
be
not
so
.
Of
you
my
Lords
I
beleeue
that
it
is
the
first
consideration
,
which
puts
you
on
;
or
at
the
most
,
that
it
is
the
first
,
and
the
third
;
you
having
perhaps
,
given
beleefe
to
so
many
discourses
;
where
with
men
may
haue
desired
to
flatter
you
;
and
perhaps
to
worke
and
make
deepe
impressions
upon
your
minds
.
But
yet
withall
.
I
beseech
you
suffer
me
to
tell
you
that
,
which
generally
is
in
the
beleefe
of
men
;
namely
,
that
many
who
are
not
Bishops
,
haue
suffered
themselues
to
be
transported
into
the
second
errour
,
and
haue
taken
passion
,
interest
,
and
jealousie
,
for
direct
inspirations
:
but
verily
I
am
in
feare
,
least
God
should
say
,
Non
mittebam
Prophetas
,
&
Now
therefore
to
discerne
who
is
inspired
by
God
,
and
who
is
put
on
by
an
Episcopall
and
Apostolicall
spirit
,
and
who
on
the
other
side
is
posessed
by
passion
,
I
know
not
how
it
may
be
done
more
Divinely
,
then
by
the
mouth
of
God
,
and
by
the
mouth
of
three
of
the
greatest
personages
,
who
haue
ever
beene
in
this
World
;
and
who
all
three
were
Pastors
,
according
to
the
verie
heart
,
and
gust
of
God
.
The
first
is
Moses
,
that
father
of
the
people
of
God
(
and
as
it
were
their
Bishop
)
under
whom
Iosua
was
placed
.
It
hapned
therefore
,
that
one
Eldad
and
Medad
,
who
being
a
part
from
the
multitude
of
the
Iewes
,
(
and
some
will
say
perhaps
that
this
is
a
figure
of
Religious
men
)
beganne
to
prophecy
amongst
the
people
,
that
is
to
say
,
to
instruct
,
and
Preach
to
them
.
This
newes
was
quickely
carried
by
a
young
man
to
Iosua
,
who
being
inflamed
with
a
zeale
,
which
was
not
altogether
so
very
pure
;
ranne
with
speede
to
Moses
:
and
being
desirous
to
use
double
diligence
in
giuing
proofe
of
his
fidelity
;
said
somewhat
which
pleased
not
Moses
in
any
sort
,
who
was
a
man
all
full
of
the
Spirit
of
God
.
But
let
us
heare
his
Wordes
.
Statim
Iosue
filius
Nun
,
minister
Mosi
,
&
electus
è
pluribus
;
Domine
mi
Moses
,
prohibe
illos
.
At
ille
,
quid
inquit
aemularis
pro
me
?
quis
tribuat
mihi
vt
omnis
populus
Caldean
version
sayth
;
Mitte
eos
in
carcerem
;
for
this
declareth
yet
better
,
the
boyling
heart
of
Ioshua
,
and
the
excesse
of
his
too
hote
zeale
.
But
now
let
us
heare
what
the
Pope
saith
.
Pia
Pastorum
mens
mor.
cap.
24.
(
saith
St.
Gregory
)
quia
non
propriam
gloriam
,
sed
authoris
quaerit
;
ab
omnibus
vult
adjuuari
,
quod
agit
,
fidelis
namque
Predicator
optat
,
si
fieri
valeat
,
vt
veritatem
,
quam
solus
loqui
non
sufficit
,
ora
cunctorum
sonent
.
Vnde
cum
Iosue
,
duobus
in
castris
remanentibus
,
atque
prophetantibus
,
vellet
obsistere
,
recté
per
Mòsen
dicitur
.
Quid
aemularis
pro
me
,
&c.
Prophetare
quippe
omnes
voluit
,
qui
bonum
quod
habuit
,
alijs
non
inuidit
.
Will
you
therefore
see
this
ill
zeale
,
and
how
Moses
speaketh
of
this
emulation
?
Here
it
is
.
Domine
mi
,
prohibe
illos
.
And
will
you
see
the
true
Spirit
of
God
,
and
the
pure
zeale
of
his
service
,
and
of
the
good
of
soules
?
Behold
also
here
it
is
,
Qui●
mihi
tribuat
ut
omnes
,
&c.
The
second
instance
is
more
eminent
,
and
it
is
Iesus
Christ
who
is
speaking
,
and
we
must
adore
his
Words
.
Thus
stood
the
case
.
As
he
was
going
to
Caperna●um
,
Nolite
●rohibere
&c.
Qui.
n.
&c.
And
will
you
see
on
the
other
side
,
a
zeale
which
hath
in
it
a
little
heate
,
and
●oyling
up
of
passion
,
Non
sequitur
nos
,
&
prohibuimus
eum
.
In
the
name
of
God
let
me
make
you
heare
this
great
Oracle
of
Greece
,
and
other
great
personages
.
For
Saint
Chrisostome
interpreting
those
words
Titus
Bostrensis
addeth
thus
,
In.
c.
9.
Luc.
Qui
vobis
,
qui
mediligitis
,
non
aduersantur
,
pro
vobis
faciunt
.
Si
qui.
n.
sunt
quiquae
ad
gloriam
meam
spectant
,
implere
satagunt
,
illi
non
ex
se
,
sed
gratia
mea
preueniente
ea
praestant
.
And
indeede
it
is
their
vocation
,
and
for
this
reason
it
is
,
that
God
sendeth
many
Religious
orders
into
the
World
;
giving
them
this
expresse
and
precise
vocation
,
which
obligeth
them
to
imploy
themselues
towards
the
salvation
of
their
neighbours
,
and
to
doe
seruice
to
them
who
haue
most
particular
obligation
of
the
care
of
soules
;
but
now
you
will
say
,
why
is
it
that
God
doth
send
this
extraordinary
succour
,
since
the
ordinarie
may
well
performe
it
,
without
the
other
.
To
this
I
will
not
answere
a
word
,
but
I
will
beg
of
The
third
instance
is
of
that
master
of
Bishops
,
the
great
St.
Paule
,
Iesus
Christ
,
in
so
good
a
fashion
;
Magister
non
est
tibi
curae
quod
soror
mea
reliquit
me
solam
ministrare
,
dic
ergo
illi
,
vt
me
adiuuet
.
In
effect
you
will
finde
that
Saint
Mary
Magdalen
did
not
faile
,
to
put
her
hands
to
worke
,
shee
sent
for
perfumes
,
and
did
embalme
therewith
the
sacred
head
,
and
the
blessed
feete
of
Iesus
Christ
,
and
forgot
not
to
helpe
her
sister
;
after
shee
had
for
sometime
giuen
eare
to
the
heauenly
wordes
of
her
deare
Master
,
who
was
the
onely
diuine
loue
of
her
heart
:
for
as
for
him
who
was
scandalized
at
this
action
,
hee
deserues
not
so
much
as
to
be
named
;
and
so
hee
receyued
that
answere
which
hee
〈…〉
.
S●●●t
Ignatius
entreth
e
〈…〉
against
those
wretches
who
banded
so
against
Saint
●aul
:
and
sayth
;
Fugite
istos
,
sunt
.
n.
But
now
wee
must
consider
the
reasons
that
men
alleadge
against
vs
,
in
this
argument
,
and
what
those
windes
are
which
make
such
a
tempest
,
in
the
sea
of
the
Church
,
as
that
a
man
would
say
all
were
lost
.
So
full
haue
men
their
mindes
of
zeale
,
and
so
inflamed
vpon
this
businesse
,
and
so
much
noyse
doe
they
make
.
As
for
me
,
I
aske
for
such
mindes
of
men
,
as
may
be
coole
,
and
quiet
,
and
wise
,
and
by
no
meanes
troubled
,
and
boyling
vp
.
And
I
demaund
no
grace
,
nor
fauour
,
but
onely
a
sober
and
setled
judgement
,
without
any
other
interest
,
then
of
Gods
seruice
,
and
which
may
not
be
pre-occupated
by
certaine
inueterate
opinions
,
which
haue
no
soliditie
in
them
.
In
fine
,
my
Lords
,
I
desire
no
other
kinde
of
mindes
in
men
,
but
such
as
are
made
like
yours
,
that
is
to
say
,
such
as
are
solid
,
firme
,
dis-interessed
,
and
which
desire
but
to
meet
with
th●
true
meanes
of
saving
the
soules
of
your
Diocesses
;
and
to
comfort
the
sheepe
of
your
Flockes
,
and
I
am
well
inclined
to
beleeue
,
that
of
you
which
Saint
Paul
sayd
of
himselfe
,
in
Let
vs
therefore
see
the
reasons
which
some
alleadge
to
prooue
that
there
is
no
necessity
of
Religious
men
,
but
rather
that
they
are
of
prejudice
to
the
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
.
THE
FIRST
REASON
.
●t
Charles
did
not
serue
himselfe
of
●eligious
men
,
for
the
establishment
of
the
Hierarchy
of
his
Diocesse
,
which
yet
was
the
honour
of
Diocesses
.
THe
first
,
the
most
specious
,
and
peraduenture
the
most
strong
reason
is
this
,
which
heere
wee
finde
alleadged
;
namely
,
that
the
great
and
incomparable
Saint
Charles
,
did
not
serue
himselfe
of
Religious
men
,
for
the
establishment
of
his
Diocesse
,
which
is
neuerthelesse
the
most
flourishing
,
or
at
least
one
of
the
most
flourishing
in
Italy
,
and
perhaps
euen
in
the
whole
World
.
Can
any
man
doe
better
then
Saint
Charles
?
Can
a
man
fayle
by
imitating
Saint
Charles
?
Can
it
be
disliked
if
a
man
doe
that
,
which
was
done
by
S.
Charles
?
who
is
Canonized
,
both
in
Heauen
and
in
earth
?
My
Lords
,
I
cannot
counsell
you
to
make
Saint
Charles
the
judge
of
this
question
,
for
if
you
doe
,
you
will
infallibly
loose
your
cause
:
I
say
you
will
infallibly
loose
it
.
Before
I
prooue
this
truth
,
I
will
tell
you
by
way
of
surplussage
,
that
supposing
Saint
Charles
had
proceeded
so
as
hath
beene
sayd
(
which
yet
is
not
so
)
it
cannot
be
inferred
thereupon
,
that
all
the
World
,
eyther
must
do
,
or
hath
done
the
like
.
There
may
bee
reasons
which
are
good
at
Milan
,
which
are
not
gusted
elsewhere
,
and
some
things
are
good
in
some
season
,
which
are
not
so
in
others
.
If
hee
were
now
liuing
,
and
in
France
,
hee
must
be
faine
to
hold
another
stile
,
and
to
goe
in
another
ayre
then
this
.
But
yet
they
say
still
,
that
Saint
Charles
was
of
that
opinion
.
Let
it
bee
so
.
But
Saint
Bonauenture
was
of
an
opinion
directly
●ontrary
to
this
,
who
was
a
Cardinall
as
Saint
Charles
,
a
Pastor
like
him
;
at
least
as
learned
as
hee
,
and
a
Saint
as
hee
was
;
and
yet
neuerthelesse
;
hee
taught
and
practised
the
direct
contrary
,
and
found
himselfe
very
well
therewith
.
But
let
us
heare
him
speake
by
his
owne
mouth
,
or
rather
take
the
paines
to
reade
a
Treatise
which
hee
made
altogether
vpon
this
subject
,
vnder
this
faire
Title
.
Quarè
fratres
minores
praedicent
,
&
confessiones
audiant
.
And
you
shall
see
whether
Saint
Bonauenture
,
be
of
the
opinion
of
Saint
Charles
,
or
at
least
,
whether
hee
be
of
that
which
is
imputed
to
him
.
See
but
his
Apologie
for
those
poore
Religious
men
,
and
my
turne
is
serued
.
You
will
tell
me
perhaps
,
that
it
is
so
indeede
,
but
then
you
will
say
,
that
Saint
Bonauenture
must
goe
for
a
suspected
man
.
It
is
certainly
as
easie
for
me
to
say
,
that
Saint
Charles
ma●
also
bee
suspected
,
though
in●eede
h●
ought
not
to
be
so
.
But
then
yo●
say
,
that
Saint
Bonauenture
was
〈◊〉
Religious
man
;
and
Saint
Charles
was
hee
not
so
too
?
And
if
not
;
the●
I
demaund
justice
of
you
my
Lords
for
why
will
you
haue
Religious
me●
beleeue
St.
Charles
in
this
busines
,
an●
yet
you
will
no●
that
such
as
are
no●
Religious
,
should
beleeue
St.
Bon●uenture
.
Either
beleeue
them
both
,
o●
relinquish
them
both
;
or
else
you
will
ordaine
men
to
bee
both
judges
and
parties
,
which
is
contrarie
to
all
forme
of
justice
in
France
.
Saint
Thomas
also
was
of
a
contrary
opinion
to
St.
Charles
.
But
you
will
say
,
that
hee
was
no
Archbishop
,
any
more
then
Saint
Bernard
,
who
was
also
none
,
but
yet
of
the
same
opinion
with
him
.
Hee
was
not
indeede
,
but
it
was
long
of
no
bodie
but
St.
Bernard
,
that
hee
was
not
Arch-bishop
of
Millan
,
as
well
as
St.
Charles
;
nor
of
any
but
Saint
Thomas
that
he
was
not
Archbishop
of
Naples
:
Now
whom
my
Lords
,
doe
you
esteeme
more
in
the
sight
of
God
,
eyther
him
who
refuseth
to
be
an
Arch-bishop
,
being
prest
to
bee
so
,
by
the
Pope
,
and
by
the
whole
World
:
or
him
who
presseth
that
he
may
be
so
,
as
they
say
Saint
Charles
did
,
whilst
yet
he
was
yong
,
and
before
his
conuersion
.
Or
do
you
thinke
perhaps
that
St.
Bernard
,
or
St.
Thomas
would
say
any
thing
against
their
conscience
in
a
matter
of
such
moment
.
But
let
vs
yet
say
more
,
let
vs
leaue
the
Character
a
part
,
doe
you
not
beleeue
that
the
testimonies
of
these
two
Seraphins
,
bee
as
weightie
and
as
important
in
the
way
of
conscience
,
as
that
of
the
great
St.
Charles
,
who
esteemed
these
two
great
Doctors
and
great
seruants
of
God
,
so
much
,
that
hee
esteemed
nothing
of
himselfe
,
in
comparison
of
them
.
You
say
,
this
was
the
opinion
of
St.
Charles
;
and
I
will
shew
you
by
good
account
,
nine
and
forty
Popes
of
a
contrary
opinion
,
I
wll
shew
you
500.
Cardinalls
,
Arch-bishops
,
Bishops
,
most
illustrious
,
most
reuerend
,
most
holy
,
most
wise
.
And
(
which
importeth
)
most
dis-interested
,
both
in
France
,
and
elsewhere
,
who
were
of
a
contrary
opinion
.
I
will
shew
you
Emperours
,
Kings
,
Monarchs
,
and
euen
Oracles
amongst
men
,
who
are
also
of
a
contrarie
opinion
.
I
doe
highly
esteeme
Saint
Charles
,
and
God
forbid
but
I
should
.
But
yet
if
I
should
beleeue
him
alone
,
against
a
sacred
torrent
of
so
many
others
,
hee
would
giue
mee
little
thankes
for
it
,
and
truely
I
haue
no
minde
to
offend
him
.
Would
hee
disagree
from
St.
Bonauenture
,
hee
,
who
in
effect
,
did
nothing
but
by
the
aduice
of
Panigarola
,
a
man
of
the
same
Order
,
and
farre
inferiour
to
Saint
Bonauenture
.
Pardon
mee
my
Lords
,
if
I
tell
you
,
that
the
Historie
of
St.
Charles
his
life
,
doth
carry
other
manner
of
reasons
with
it
,
then
that
which
you
alleadge
,
how
hee
came
to
make
his
Diocesse
so
flourishing
:
for
that
story
tels
us
,
that
the
thing
which
made
him
victorious
,
ouer
so
many
impediments
,
and
inabled
him
to
doe
what
hee
listed
,
was
this
which
followeth
.
1.
That
hee
led
a
holy
and
irreprehensible
life
.
c.
8.
2.
Hee
did
ordinarily
fast
,
and
c.
21.
that
oftentimes
,
with
bread
and
water
;
yea
and
euen
when
hee
was
present
at
Feasts
,
and
he
fasted
for
deuotion
and
not
for
thrift
.
3.
Hee
gaue
ouer
in
one
morning
,
c.
2.
the
reuenew
of
threescore
thousand
Crownes
by
the
yeare
;
and
who
would
not
beleeue
a
man
,
who
should
at
once
alleadge
threescore
thousand
reasons
,
which
weigh
at
the
least
,
a
Crowne
a
peece
.
4.
Hee
alwayes
euerie
day
recited
5.
Hee
did
neuer
in
effect
,
goe
out
c.
2.
of
his
Diocesse
.
6.
Hee
gaue
almes
,
euen
almost
&
l.
8.
c.
28.
beyond
the
meanes
he
had
.
7.
He
serued
with
his
owne
hands
c.
3.
such
persons
as
had
plague
soares
vppon
them
.
8.
He
made
the
visitation
of
his
Diocesse
on
foote
,
and
hee
performed
his
Pilgrimages
,
after
the
same
manner
.
9.
He
daily
celebrated
masse
,
with
an
c.
2.
incredible
deuotion
,
and
with
a
Majesty
,
which
was
more
then
humane
.
10.
Hee
was
peraduenture
the
c.
16.
most
humble
man
of
all
his
Diocesse
,
and
did
in
his
very
soule
,
beleeue
more
meanely
of
himselfe
,
then
of
any
seruant
hee
had
.
11.
He
was
indefatigable
,
in
the
c.
31.
execution
of
his
Office
.
12.
Vnder
his
Scarlet
hee
wore
a
c.
31.
hard
and
rough
haire-cloath
.
13.
Hee
tooke
his
rest
,
eyther
vppon
c.
3.
the
bare
ground
,
or
else
vppon
straw
which
was
as
hard
.
14.
He
would
read
the
holy
Bible
vppon
his
knees
,
and
with
his
head
bare
,
and
the
while
,
hee
would
shed
aboundance
of
teares
.
15.
Hee
carried
a
tender
loue
towards
the
seraunts
of
God
.
16.
Euery
yeare
he
made
the
spirituall
c.
5.
exercises
twice
,
sometimes
in
the
Nouiciate
,
at
Nouellara
(
which
my
Lady
his
sister
had
founded
)
vnder
father
Anthonio
Valentino
,
a
Iesuite
(
of
whom
I
haue
vnderstood
thus
much
)
and
sometimes
at
Arona
,
in
the
Nouilitate
,
which
hee
had
founded
himselfe
,
and
then
hee
did
euer
make
his
generall
Confession
.
17.
He
would
neuer
do
any
thing
c.
4.
without
taking
verie
wise
counsell
,
and
hee
did
exceedingly
distrust
his
owne
iudgement
.
18.
Hee
was
euer
the
first
at
good
workes
,
at
the
Office
of
the
Church
,
at
Sermons
,
at
the
visiting
of
Hospitals
,
and
seruing
the
sicke
.
19.
Hee
was
greatly
exact
and
c.
3.
carefull
,
not
to
giue
holy
Orders
,
nor
Benifices
,
but
to
persons
very
capable
,
and
of
good
life
.
20.
He
would
doe
nothing
of
importance
c.
3.
without
communicating
it
first
,
to
the
Pope
,
and
his
Councell
,
whom
hee
honoured
as
the
Oracle
of
Heauen
.
This
in
effect
,
is
that
my
Lords
,
which
gaue
him
so
great
power
to
make
a
reformation
through
his
whole
Diocesse
,
and
not
eyther
seculers
,
or
Regulers
,
or
such
other
aydes
as
those
;
in
fine
,
in
the
midst
of
all
impediments
,
and
when
the
whole
seculer
power
would
oppose
it selfe
to
his
designes
,
the
Gouernours
of
Millan
sent
worde
to
King
Phillip
the
second
,
that
they
were
not
able
to
resist
him
;
and
the
King
would
ordinarily
make
this
answere
,
Pues●el
Arcobispo
es
vn
sancto
.
Let
this
Arch-bishop
alone
,
for
hee
is
a
uery
Saint
.
The
Arch-bishop
Visconte
his
successour
,
a
most
wise
man
,
and
whom
I
haue
heard
Preach
,
would
sometimes
bee
making
the
same
offers
;
but
the
same
King
answered
concerning
him
;
Luego
este
no
es
saincto
.
No
,
sayth
he
,
the
case
is
not
the
same
.
For
this
man
is
not
yet
a
Saint
,
when
hee
shal
be
so
,
wee
will
speake
with
him
againe
.
So
that
the
beleefe
which
was
had
of
the
sanctity
of
Saint
Charles
,
was
that
which
made
him
so
omnipotent
;
doe
but
giue
me
some
Saint
Charles
like
him
,
and
there
shal
be
no
Barbarisme
which
shall
not
be
tamed
,
and
euen
made
holy
in
a
short
time
:
but
without
that
there
will
be
much
to
do
,
whosoeuer
he
be
that
goes
about
it
,
and
Charles
Baromeus
,
would
not
haue
wrought
those
wonders
,
if
hee
had
not
beene
St.
Charles
.
All
this
say
you
,
goes
well
,
but
in
fine
Saint
Charles
did
not
serue
himselfe
of
Religious
men
,
in
making
that
Reformation
.
Though
that
were
so
,
yet
the
Pope
his
Vncle
,
serued
himselfe
of
them
;
and
so
did
the
greatest
Cardinalls
of
his
time
,
who
found
that
they
had
no
cause
to
repent
it
.
Farnesse
at
Rome
,
Paleotta
at
Bolonia
,
Valerio
at
Verona
,
Priuli
at
Venice
,
Medici
at
Florence
,
and
Este
at
Ferara
,
that
I
may
say
nothing
of
my
Lords
,
the
Cardinals
of
France
;
whose
memory
is
both
in
benediction
and
admiration
;
hee
of
Bourbon
,
of
Vendosme
,
of
Lorayne
,
of
Tornon
,
and
so
many
others
.
And
these
two
last
,
being
men
of
very
great
judgement
,
and
reputation
,
resolued
when
they
dyed
,
to
breath
out
their
soules
in
the
hands
of
Religious
men
,
and
to
leaue
their
heartes
depositated
amongst
them
,
in
testimony
of
an
euerlasting
loue
.
And
I
will
also
forbeare
to
say
any
thing
of
such
as
liue
,
and
of
an
innumerable
number
of
most
eminent
Prelates
of
France
;
yea
and
of
Europe
,
who
haue
found
themselues
well
at
case
,
by
not
hauing
beene
of
that
opinion
,
which
heere
is
attributed
to
Saint
Charles
.
I
could
here
say
much
of
those
great
Cardinalls
of
Ioyuse
,
of
Condy
,
of
Retz
,
of
Peron
,
of
Ciury
;
and
of
so
many
others
:
but
I
will
forbeare
,
and
passe
no
further
vpon
this
poynt
.
But
we
will
yet
say
better
to
you
,
and
I
am
content
that
Saint
Charles
be
made
the
Iudge
of
al
this
questions
for
either
the
story
of
his
life
deceiues
vs
,
or
certainely
my
Lords
,
you
will
loose
your
cause
.
So
true
it
is
,
that
Saint
Charles
did
the
just
contrary
,
of
all
that
which
some
men
would
make
the
World
beleeue
.
See
how
he
did
it
,
and
what
his
life
relates
.
When
hee
was
conuerted
in
good
earnest
to
God
,
and
to
that
eminent
manner
c.
5.
of
life
which
he
grew
to
lead
,
he
took
for
his
guide
,
Father
Iohn
Baptista
c.
5.
Ribera
a
Iesuite
.
When
hee
resolued
to
make
his
entry
into
Millan
,
and
to
dispose
of
that
people
;
hee
chose
Father
Palmio
and
some
others
of
the
same
Order
,
which
prooued
so
to
the
glory
of
God
as
all
the
World
vnderstands
.
He
setled
Colledges
and
Religious-Houses
,
and
serued
himselfe
c.
7.
of
them
for
his
Seminaries
,
and
for
the
affaires
of
his
Diocesse
.
At
Millan
he
found
the
Barnabists
,
who
are
very
good
Religious
men
,
and
who
gaue
him
great
succor
towards
the
gouernment
of
his
Church
.
Besides
,
hee
brought
in
the
Theatins
,
esteeming
them
to
bee
very
worthy
c.
19.
labourers
in
the
Vine-yard
of
God
.
And
yet
the
good
Cardinall
did
not
conceiue
,
that
he
had
halfe
the
men
whereof
hee
had
neede
,
for
so
great
an
office
.
Hee
neuer
ceased
,
till
hee
had
brought
the
Capuchins
into
those
Dominions
of
the
Swissers
,
which
c.
8.
were
vnder
his
Arch-bishopricke
,
beleeuing
that
the
sanctity
of
the
life
,
the
good
example
;
and
the
Preaching
of
those
Fathers
,
would
worke
that
effect
,
which
since
indeed
they
haue
wrought
.
Hee
also
placed
two
Colledges
of
Iesuites
at
Lucerna
,
and
c.
4.
who
was
then
but
a
meere
Cordelier
,
though
afterward
he
was
made
Bishop
of
Aste
,
and
Father
Achilles
Gagliardo
a
Iesuite
;
besides
others
who
were
not
of
so
much
note
as
these
two
.
Yea
,
there
were
three
men
,
of
whom
he
thought
he
could
neuer
haue
enough
,
Panigarola
,
Emanuel
Sà
,
and
Father
Adorno
.
The
first
of
them
for
Preaching
;
the
second
for
cases
of
conscience
;
and
the
third
,
for
the
conduct
of
his
soule
,
for
in
all
his
life
,
and
euen
in
the
houre
of
his
death
,
hee
would
euer
be
so
conducted
by
this
Father
Adorno
;
that
in
effect
,
hee
did
nothing
but
by
obedience
to
him
,
at
least
in
those
things
which
concerned
the
interiour
man
,
and
the
guiding
of
his
conscience
,
which
was
most
tender
and
nice
.
And
his
life
speakes
of
things
●great
,
and
so
extraordinary
in
this
●de
,
as
that
I
dare
not
touch
them
●ere
.
When
hee
was
able
to
scape
away
,
and
goe
to
Nouellarie
,
there
&
12.
to
conferre
with
Father
Anthonio
Valentino
(
who
was
Father
of
the
Nouices
of
the
Iesuites
)
hee
thought
himselfe
to
be
in
a
kinde
of
Paradise
;
and
when
afterward
,
hee
came
to
finde
himselfe
assaulted
by
Death
,
he
●ent
for
Father
Adorno
,
and
made
his
generall
Confession
to
him
,
and
would
needes
dye
in
the
Armes
of
him
,
vppon
whom
hee
had
entirely
relyed
for
the
direction
of
his
soule
,
during
his
life
.
That
I
may
say
nothing
of
the
Iacobins
and
Cordeliers
,
and
other
Religious
men
,
who
liued
on
Almes
,
by
whom
hee
was
often
assisted
,
with
very
great
fruite
.
And
now
I
most
humbly
beseech
you
most
illustrious
,
and
most
reuerend
Lords
,
is
it
true
which
they
haue
sayd
of
Saint
Charles
;
that
〈◊〉
did
not
serue
himselfe
of
Religio●
men
,
hee
who
euer
had
them
at
〈◊〉
feete
,
hee
who
dyed
in
their
Arme●
and
who
in
effect
,
did
neuer
a●
thing
of
much
importance
,
whe●
in
hee
was
not
assisted
by
their
Cou●sells
:
he
who
serued
himselfe
of
the●
labours
in
his
visitations
,
and
wh●
receiued
comfort
by
their
conuers●tion
,
making
himselfe
the
founder
o●
some
,
the
protector
of
others
,
and
generally
a
Father
to
them
all
.
He●
tooke
great
contentment
to
reuolue●
that
passage
of
Saint
Gregory
vp
and
downe
in
his
minde
.
Cuncti
qui
praesunt
,
non
in
se
potestatem
Ordinis
debent
sed
aequalitatem
pensare
conditionis
;
nec
praeesse
se
hominibus
gaudeant
,
sed
prodesse
.
Those
two
words
of
praeesse
and
prodesse
,
were
euerlastingly
before
his
eyes
,
and
yet
more
,
this
other
passage
of
the
same
Pope
:
Qui
episcopatum
desiderat
,
bonum
opus
desiderat
.
Notandum
vero
,
〈◊〉
illo
tempore
hoc
dicebatur
,
quo
c.
8.
q●ssquis
plebibus
praeerat
,
primus
ad
●rtirij
tormenta
ducebatur
,
tunc
er●audabile
fuit
episcopatum
quaerere
,
●ndo
per
hunc
non
erat
dubium
ad
●plicia
grauiora
quemlibet
peruenire
.
Whilst
hee
was
repassing
this
saying
in
his
minde
,
it
is
not
easily
to
bee
beleeued
,
with
how
great
ardour
of
zeale
,
hee
would
thinke
of
culti●ting
his
Diocesse
;
seruing
himselfe
of
all
men
,
but
not
of
any
who
would
imploy
themselues
but
by
halfes
.
Hee
was
the
first
at
labour
,
and
the
last
,
and
lowest
of
all
in
the
esteemation
of
himselfe
.
And
it
seemed
,
as
if
hee
had
beene
made
Cardinall
but
to
kill
himselfe
with
taking
paynes
,
and
to
dye
himselfe
purple
in
his
owne
blood
:
and
to
bath
in
the
sweat
of
his
owne
labours
,
and
so
to
be
exalted
to
a
thousand
,
and
a
thousand
Crownes
of
merit
.
Notwithstanding
all
this
,
I
〈◊〉
auow
that
in
the
latter
yeares
of
〈◊〉
life
,
hee
did
not
serue
himselfe
,
〈◊〉
much
of
Regulers
,
as
of
other●
This
cannot
be
well
denied
,
and
〈…〉
must
frankly
auow
the
truth
;
F●
otherwise
a
man
should
contradi●
the
History
of
his
life
,
written
〈◊〉
From
hence
,
some
good
Priests
tooke
occasion
to
offer
themselues
to
be
vsed
by
Saint
Charles
,
in
whatsoeuer
hee
should
commaund
.
This
small
beginning
inlarged
it selfe
;
●d
these
first
seruants
of
God
,
did
●arme
themselues
by
little
and
little
,
●d
set
themselues
forward
apace
.
●nd
the
better
to
aduance
this
py●us
designe
,
and
to
become
more
ac●ptable
,
and
necessary
,
they
alleadged
to
the
holy
Arch-bishop
,
as
followeth
.
1.
That
Religious
men
,
were
not
absolutely
at
his
disposition
.
That
they
had
Generalls
and
Prouincials
;
who
disposed
of
them
at
their
pleasure
.
That
sometimes
when
they
were
in
the
middest
of
some
great
good
businesse
,
they
left
it
all
,
to
follow
the
call
of
Obedience
.
That
when
Saint
Charles
beganne
to
haue
particuler
gust
in
any
one
,
it
was
then
,
that
they
would
be
taking
him
out
of
his
hand
.
That
he
was
not
the
Master
of
any
of
them
.
That
euery
one
had
particuler
rules
,
which
obliged
him
to
diuers
things
,
and
that
therefore
he
could
not
ser●
himselfe
freely
of
them
.
2.
That
they
had
too
great
Priuiledges
and
power
from
Popes
,
and
that
they
were
too
independent
vpo●
their
Ordinaries
.
3.
That
they
were
not
of
the
ordinary
body
,
and
of
the
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
.
4.
That
they
might
not
bee
Parsons
or
Curats
,
Arch-deacons
,
Canons
,
Theologals
,
Vicars
generall
,
nor
serue
the
cures
of
Villages
.
5.
That
secular
Priests
were
rather
to
be
reformed
by
secular
Priests
,
then
by
Regulers
,
who
haue
had
no
education
that
way
.
6.
That
by
little
and
little
,
some
Priests
might
bee
substituted
to
the
place
of
others
;
and
so
the
Clergy
of
Millan
would
infallibly
grow
to
be
reformed
,
both
in
Country
and
City
:
by
the
substitution
,
I
say
,
of
of
good
Priests
,
who
might
lead
holy
liues
,
and
that
all
the
younger
Priests
,
moulding
themselues
by
those
others
,
might
thus
put
themselues
vpon
the
way
of
Ecclesiasticall
perfection
,
obtayned
by
secular
Priests
,
who
shortly
would
people
Lombardie
,
with
excellent
men
for
the
Church
.
That
Religious
men
not
being
come
in
,
but
to
succour
the
Church
when
it
was
in
decay
,
and
seemed
to
hang
towards
ruine
,
there
would
now
bee
not
great
neede
of
them
,
but
for
singing
their
Office
in
the
Quier
,
and
to
make
mentall
Prayer
.
8.
That
good
secular
Priests
were
the
men
,
who
would
vphold
the
dignity
of
Bishops
,
and
who
liue
not
but
by
them
,
nor
take
any
thing
to
heart
but
their
Commaund●ments
,
and
who
would
euer
be
at
their
feete
,
and
euer
neere
at
hand
;
to
bee
imployed
by
them
,
in
all
kinde
of
labour
without
contr●diction
.
9.
That
for
the
greater
assuranc●
and
stability
hereof
,
they
would
take
an
Oath
,
nay
they
would
ma●
a
particuler
vowe
,
betweene
th●
hands
of
the
sayd
Lord
Cardinall
,
whereby
they
would
irreuocably
oblige
themselues
to
him
,
and
would
make
themselues
as
his
Creatures
.
This
is
that
in
grosse
,
which
I
haue
learned
both
in
Millan
,
as
also
out
of
the
life
of
the
Saint
afore-said
,
touching
that
which
they
alleadged
to
him
.
And
now
he
who
imbraced
all
sorts
of
people
,
for
the
seruice
o●
God
,
was
much
pleased
by
the
lustre
of
these
faire
and
winning
propositions
.
And
as
for
the
men
,
hee
receiued
them
after
a
paternall
manner
,
and
gaue
them
the
Church
of
the
holy
Sepulcher
;
and
obtained
the
yearly
reuenew
of
a
thousand
crownes
for
them
of
Pope
Gregorie
the
thirteenth
;
and
by
occasion
of
offering
themselues
to
him
,
hee
gaue
them
the
name
of
Oblati
,
which
continueth
with
them
till
this
day
,
and
in
truth
they
haue
done
God
good
seruice
in
the
Diocesse
of
the
holy
Cardinall
.
Now
as
for
saying
,
whether
afterward
they
grew
vp
to
frame
a
bodie
,
or
whether
they
haue
chosen
a
Generall
,
or
no
,
or
what
Hierarchy
they
haue
,
I
must
clearely
auow
mine
owne
ignorance
.
For
in
truth
,
I
know
not
how
the
case
stands
,
and
I
am
so
little
curious
,
that
I
haue
not
taken
care
to
informe
my selfe
.
It
is
true
,
that
I
haue
bin
told
many
times
,
but
I
put
not
this
eyther
into
my
booke
of
receites
,
or
of
expences
,
as
a
thing
which
concernes
me
not
.
But
I
beseech
God
to
conserue
and
enrich
them
,
with
all
the
benedictions
both
of
heauen
and
earth
,
for
the
seruice
of
the
Church
,
and
the
good
of
soules
.
9.
This
was
then
the
occasion
of
that
change
which
arriued
at
Millan
;
wherein
my
Lords
,
you
may
be
pleased
to
obserue
,
that
it
grew
vpon
the
desire
of
the
Religious
men
,
and
at
their
instant
〈◊〉
that
Saint
Charles
discharged
them
,
of
that
too
great
imployment
:
for
these
are
the
expresse
words
of
the
Historie
.
Besides
that
the
holy
Cardinall
did
neuer
giue
ouer
,
euen
till
the
end
of
his
life
,
to
serue
himselfe
of
Religious
men
,
and
to
imploy
them
vppon
the
conduct
of
his
soule
;
and
you
may
well
beleeue
of
so
great
a
Cardinall
,
that
since
hee
trusted
his
conscience
,
and
his
heart
in
the
hands
of
Religious
men
,
hee
might
also
well
trust
the
rest
,
his
flocke
,
and
whatsoeuer
was
in
his
Diocesse
,
which
was
the
honour
of
Diocesses
.
10.
To
tell
you
now
which
of
the
two
is
better
,
eyther
to
haue
serued
Saint
Charles
in
the
establishment
of
his
Arch-bishopricke
,
and
to
breake
through
difficulties
,
or
to
haue
helped
to
conserue
that
,
which
was
established
alreadie
,
would
be
but
odious
,
and
without
fruite
.
In
like
manner
to
debate
,
whether
this
bee
not
sitter
at
one
time
then
in
another
,
would
proue
to
make
a
discourse
apt
to
breed
iealousie
,
and
to
discouer
a
high
way
couered
with
thornes
.
To
know
moreouer
whether
the
Oblati
doe
better
seruice
to
Bishops
,
then
Religious
men
,
yea
or
no
;
for
the
loue
of
God
,
do
not
ingage
me
vppon
this
taske
.
When
you
goe
to
Millan
,
you
ma●
take
the
paynes
,
to
informe
and
instruct
your selues
herein
.
As
for
mee
,
I
know
in
a
manner
what
might
be
said
,
but
I
also
know
withall
,
that
I
will
not
say
it
.
That
which
I
wil
be
bold
to
say
is
this
,
that
I
doe
infinitely
commend
the
large
heart
of
Saint
Charles
,
and
his
affections
of
a
father
.
He
euer
loued
both
the
one
and
the
other
,
euer
imploied
both
the
one
&
the
other
,
and
as
his
life
doth
witnesse
,
he
better
loued
to
be
a
Father
to
all
,
then
partiall
to
any
.
And
seeing
that
hee
had
all
in
his
power
,
he
would
not
commit
himselfe
wholy
to
any
;
nor
put
himselfe
into
parallel
with
other
folkes
;
and
to
the
end
,
that
all
might
be
good
children
to
him
,
hee
was
a
louing
Father
to
all
.
His
life
doth
further
relate
,
that
he
had
often
in
his
mouth
,
that
word
of
the
wiseman
.
Discurre
,
festina
,
suscita
11.
True
,
but
yet
he
wished
for
some
things
to
be
in
regular
persons
,
and
there
were
many
little
things
which
pleas'd
him
not
.
Alas
,
is
there
any
kind
of
people
,
wherof
a
man
is
not
weary
at
●ngth
,
since
a
man
groweth
weary
e●en
of
himselfe
,
and
many
times
he
●ares
not
for
that
after
noone
,
which
he
passionatly
desireth
before
.
In
fine
,
the
minde
of
man
is
so
made
.
But
now
my
Lords
,
tel
me
if
it
please
you
,
doe
you
beleeue
that
there
hath
been
nothing
done
,
by
those
others
,
which
might
haue
beene
wished
otherwise
,
and
which
displeased
Saint
Charles
,
and
his
successors
.
Are
they
perhaps
impeccable
,
or
are
they
men
dropped
downe
from
Heauen
,
and
confirmed
in
grace
?
If
a
man
will
not
serue
himselfe
,
but
onely
of
such
as
make
no
faults
,
infallibly
hee
must
serue
himselfe
of
none
;
but
hee
must
,
as
Saint
Paule
sayth
,
goe
out
of
the
World
,
and
seeke
them
beyond
these
parts
of
the
earth
which
are
inhabited
by
men
.
Euery
man
is
a
man
,
and
extreamely
a
man
,
and
subject
to
many
tokens
of
humanity
,
and
〈◊〉
inhumanity
too
.
Hee
is
the
most
excellent
amongst
them
,
who
committeth
the
fewest
faults
A
good
old●
Religious
man
of
the
Mendicants
,
sayd
thus
at
Millan
.
When
those
other
good
men
shall
haue
serued
St.
Charles
as
long
as
wee
,
and
shall
haue
sweate
blood
and
water
so
many
yeares
:
the
world
wil
then
be
able
to
judge
,
who
shall
haue
done
better
seruice
.
And
is
it
therefore
fit
,
that
for
some
little
fault
,
all
former
seruices
should
be
forgotten
.
Some
one
man
,
will
haue
committed
some
light
indiscretion
;
and
a
hundred
others
of
the
same
Order
,
wil
haue
performed
a
thousand
good
seruices
,
and
must
the
mis-fortune
be
so
great
,
as
to
impute
the
fault
of
that
one
to
the
whole
body
,
and
that
no
account
should
be
made
of
all
that
good
,
which
a
hundred
seruants
of
God
haue
wrought
,
and
must
all
this
be
buried
,
in
the
pit
of
obliuion
?
The
great
wisedome
●nd
wise
charitie
of
Saint
Charles
did
●rue
it selfe
of
all
:
hee
managed
the
●ood
seruices
of
some
,
hee
excused
●e
faults
of
others
,
if
any
were
made
,
and
he
gayned
the
heart
of
the
whole
World
.
THE
SECOND
REASON
.
That
Priuiledged
persons
trouble
the
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
.
MY
Lord
Bishop
of
Geneua
,
who
was
the
Saint
Charles
of
France
,
and
whose
memory
is
in
benediction
,
was
a
Prelate
,
whom
you
my
Lords
did
honour
so
greatly
,
that
more
cannot
be
imagined
.
One
day
when
I
had
the
ho●or
to
discourse
with
him
at
Paris
,
with
that
liberty
which
by
his
commandement
,
and
through
his
goodnesse
I
had
acqui●ed
,
and
there
had
passed
more
then
fiue
and
thirty
years
,
since
I
had
formerly
touched
this
string
:
in
familiar
speech
hee
sayd
to
me
afte●
this
manner
,
but
with
that
ayr●
which
he
ordinarily
vsed
,
and
wit●
that
Angelicall
serenity
of
his
.
〈…〉
know
not
whither
these
men
will
g●
to
frame
this
Hierarchie
,
and
whe●
they
finde
,
and
fancy
these
distinctions
.
When
soeuer
it
shall
plea●
them
,
I
will
make
them
see
,
that
Religious
men
,
are
one
of
the
most
important
peeces
,
or
parts
of
the
tru●
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
.
And
som●
there
are
,
who
make
a
shew
,
as
if
th●
would
onely
abase
Religious
men
who
yet
in
very
deede
would
faine
abase
Bishops
too
,
and
euen
th●
Pope
himselfe
.
Alas
,
sayth
hee
,
le●
vs
liue
,
and
serue
our selues
of
them
whom
the
good
God
sendeth
to
v●
for
although
wee
were
ten
times
a
many
as
we
are
,
infallibly
we
shoul●
not
be
halfe
so
many
,
as
were
fit
:
s●
true
it
is
,
that
,
Totus
mundus
est
〈…〉
maligno
positus
.
2.
Saint
Bonauenture
,
a
Cardinall
In
Apol.
peuperum
art.
2.
4.
Propositionis
.
〈◊〉
●
Bishop
,
disputing
with
a
certaine
Doctor
Gultelmus
de
Sancto
a●ore
,
who
sayd
at
that
time
,
all
that
which
now
is
sayd
vppon
this
argument
(
for
all
that
which
is
expressed
●n
in
this
yeare
1625.
is
but
the
repetition
,
and
eccho
,
of
that
which
was
deliuered
in
the
yeare
1257.
this
St.
I
say
,
doth
obserue
a
choyse
passage
in
the
Gospell
,
from
whence
hee
draweth
a
most
excellent
consequence
,
and
extreamely
to
the
purpose
3.
And
when
it
should
bee●
that
Religious
men
,
were
not
o●
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
,
but
o●
a
kinde
of
extraordinarie
succo●
will
any
man
inferre
thereupon
,
〈◊〉
they
are
not
of
the
bodie
of●
Church
?
Saint
Paule
came
in
〈◊〉
the
Colledge
of
twelue
Apo●
was
alreadie
furnished
,
and
was
●traordinarily
called
;
but
yet
wa●
not
,
I
beseech
you
an
Apostle
,
an
〈…〉
the
bodie
of
the
Apostles
,
and
〈◊〉
great
Apostle
,
and
through
his
●cellencie
,
called
the
Apostle
?
I●
now
there
being
but
twelue
se●
for
the
Apostles
,
where
shall
thes●
of
Saint
Paule
be
?
Saint
August●
will
tell
you
this
better
then
I
,
or
●ther
,
you
know
it
alreadie
with●
any
speech
of
mine
.
St.
Marti●
one
of
the
Apostles
of
France
,
ca●
in
afterwards
,
and
what
shall
〈◊〉
he
be
of
this
bodie
,
and
of
the
num●
of
the
rest
,
because
hee
was
call●
afterwards
,
and
to
their
succour
?
The
enemies
of
the
Church
,
doe
sometimes
feare
one
of
these
extraordinary
men
,
more
then
a
hundred
●nd
fifty
of
those
others
.
Tolle
Thomam
,
&
Ecclesiam
dissipabo
,
said
that
miserable
Rucerus
,
long
agoe
.
Take
Fryer
Thomas
away
,
shut
but
vp
his
mouth
,
let
that
dead
man
speake
no
more
,
and
I
will
feare
no
bodie
,
but
will
ruine
and
renuerse
the
whole
Church
of
Rome
.
4.
The
Popes
and
Councels
say
expresly
,
that
Bishops
and
Pastors
succeed
the
Apostles
,
and
the
Disciples
of
Iesus
Christ
.
This
is
most
true
;
but
so
it
is
also
true
,
that
Popes
and
Councels
haue
imployed
Religious
men
,
and
grafted
them
,
as
it
were
,
into
this
Hierarchy
,
as
Kings
are
wont
to
do
,
who
(
besides
their
ordinarie
Militia
,
which
serues
for
pay
)
haue
their
white
banners
,
vnder
which
voluntaries
are
assembled
,
who
are
the
men
many
times
,
that
goe
first
〈◊〉
the
knockes
;
and
supposing
that
th●
acquit
themselues
well
,
and
continu●
vnder
the
authority
of
the
King
,
the●
are
praysed
,
beloued
,
and
admired
b●
all
the
World
.
Besides
them
,
who
〈◊〉
meere
right
are
obliged
to
procur●
the
saluation
of
those
soules
,
whic●
are
vnder
their
charge
,
God
an●
his
Vicar
on
earth
,
hath
certayn●
choyce
troopes
,
which
are
sent
t●
succour
those
others
,
and
that
the●
may
acquit
themselues
the
better
,
i●
doing
their
duty
,
they
giue
them●
Priuiledges
and
armes
,
wherewith●
to
fight
against
Hell
,
and
against
sin●
and
all
those
miseries
which
destroy●
soules
.
This
is
not
therefore
to
trouble
the
Hierarchy
,
but
to
magnifie
it
,
to
succour
it
,
and
to
liue
and
dye
for●
the
seruice
of
it
.
Your
Mr.
Renatus
Benedictus
,
who
〈…〉
is
now
dead
,
said
one
day
to
Father
〈…〉
Maldonatus
,
that
in
very
truth
,
the●
Church
had
formerly
beene
in
such
●ermes
,
that
shee
had
had
necessitie
●hat
Religious
men
should
come
into
the
World
to
helpe
her
to
re-establish
Ecclesiasticall
discipline
;
but
now
,
said
hee
,
when
all
goes
so
well
,
we
have
no
more
neede
thereof
,
and
therefore
let
them
suffer
vs
,
euery
one
to
follow
his
occupation
.
I
would
to
God
hee
had
said
true
,
and
that
the
World
were
in
so
present
state
,
as
that
Religious
men
had
no
more
to
doe
,
but
to
say
their
prayers
.
Alas
,
and
what
could
we
desire
more
then
this
?
But
in
conscience
,
my
Lords
,
are
wee
now
growne
to
be
in
such
case
as
this
,
and
is
France
so
well
sanctified
both
in
City
and
Country
?
6.
The
wish
of
a
certaine
worthy
Prelate
of
this
Kingdome
,
is
much
more
worth
the
making
,
hee
useth
these
very
words
,
and
for
all
kindes
of
reason
,
his
testimony
is
worthy
to
bee
received
both
with
affection
,
and
with
honour
,
hee
beeing
such
as
hee
is
,
leading
such
a
life
,
as
all
the
World
doth
know
,
and
admire
.
Lord
how
happy
a
thing
it
is
when
the
Ecclesiasticall
men
,
who
are
of
the
Clergy
,
and
when
the
men
of
Religious
Orders
be
in
good
accord
,
and
maintaine
good
intelligence
for
the
seruice
of
those
soules
,
which
haue
cost
the
Sonne
of
God
so
much
blood
.
When
these
Hurs
and
Iosuahs
hold
up
the
arme
of
these
Moses
;
that
is
to
say
,
of
the
ordinary
Pastors
,
to
whom
the
government
of
soules
committed
to
their
charge
doth
belong
:
How
great
benedictions
grow
from
this
holy
vnaminity
and
correspond●nce
:
But
on
the
other
side
,
what
confusion
springeth
forth
,
when
they
,
who
both
by
their
Character
of
Priest
hood
,
and
by
a
Reguler
life
ought
to
be
in
Order
,
doe
encounter
and
oppose
one
another
:
For
if
the
salt
be
unsavory
;
with
what
shall
any
thing
be
seasoned
?
If
Order
be
disordred
,
by
what
meanes
shall
the
extreame
corruptions
of
disorder
be
remoued
?
If
the
rule
be
not
streight
,
with
what
shall
one
be
able
to
measure
the
dimensions
of
any
building
?
O
how
truly
doth
the
poore
Church
indure
by
these
debates
,
other
manner
of
torments
,
then
Rebecca
suffered
by
the
combate
of
her
Children
.
I
confesse
,
it
carrieth
difficulty
with
it
,
for
two
men
to
runne
in
a
Tilt-yard
at
the
same
time
,
and
in
the
same
way
against
one
another
,
without
justling
,
but
that
againe
grows
very
easie
,
when
there
is
a
partition
,
which
cutteth
the
length
of
the
carrier
in
the
middle
;
and
in
the
same
manner
is
it
easie
for
divers
to
labour
in
the
same
Vine-yard
without
contestation
,
where
the
businesse
is
so
great
,
and
the
labourers
so
few
,
euery
one
seeking
not
his
owne
interests
there
,
but
the
interest
of
Iesus
Christ
:
provided
alwaies
,
that
they
passe
not
the
limits
,
which
the
Sonne
of
God
hath
prescribed
,
&c.
And
a
little
after
,
hee
sayth
thus
.
The
Church
,
which
is
the
seamlesse
Coat
,
not
of
Ioseph
,
but
of
Iesus
Christ
,
is
torne
by
these
Schismes
,
nothing
indeede
beeing
so
contrary
to
it
,
as
internall
divisions
,
which
doe
afflict
it
more
then
externall
hereresie
,
&c.
7.
That
the
first
honours
be
rendred
to
my
Lords
the
Bishops
,
and
the
second
to
the
Pastors
,
and
Parsons
or
Curats
of
Churches
,
is
out
of
all
dispute
:
Let
them
be
great
in
dignitie
,
and
eminency
,
let
them
commaund
,
let
them
governe
,
let
them
triumph
.
They
shall
never
be
either
so
great
,
or
so
holy
,
but
that
all
good
Religious
men
will
wish
,
that
they
may
be
so
more
and
more
,
and
that
they
may
see
them
also
many
St.
Charleses
.
That
which
Religious
men
desire
,
is
neither
greatnesse
,
nor
honour
,
nor
revenew
,
nor
precedence
,
nor
any
thing
which
carrieth
lustre
,
and
noyse
with
it
.
That
which
they
desire
,
is
but
to
sweat
blood
and
water
,
to
labour
day
and
night
,
to
serue
and
comfort
the
whole
World
;
to
Preach
,
to
take
Confessions
,
to
visite
Hospitals
,
and
Prisons
,
and
must
this
be
for
troubling
the
Hierarchy
?
The
Orientall
Church
is
so
far
off
from
euer
having
had
this
beleefe
,
that
even
in
these
dayes
,
they
scarce
make
any
Patriarke
,
Arch-bishop
,
or
Bishop
,
but
such
as
are
Religious
of
the
Order
of
Saint
Basil
.
And
still
this
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
must
needs
haue
a
head
,
who
may
gouerne
and
range
it
as
is
fit
.
Since
therefore
fiftie
Popes
without
interruption
one
after
an
other
,
haue
sent
these
Regulars
in
ayde
and
succor
of
the
Hierarchy
,
who
will
presume
to
say
,
that
so
many
Popes
,
and
after
them
,
so
many
Cardinalls
,
and
great
Prelates
,
haue
troubled
the
Order
of
the
Church
,
together
with
so
many
Kings
,
who
haue
desired
them
,
sent
for
them
,
honoured
them
,
and
who
would
needes
appoint
by
their
expresse
commandements
,
that
they
should
haue
imployment
in
their
Dominions
,
and
in
fine
,
who
haue
served
themselues
of
them
in
their
owne
soules
.
8.
A
very
learned
Doctor
in
Paris
,
hath
obserued
(
in
the
relation
which
hee
makes
of
those
Hierarchies
of
Heauen
;
to
those
on
earth
)
that
the
Prelates
or
Gouernors
of
Religious
men
,
are
as
the
Principalities
of
Heaven
,
in
the
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
on
earth
.
Is
this
to
trouble
the
Order
of
the
Church
,
and
to
bring
in
coniusion
?
The
Cardinals
(
sayth
hee
)
answer●
to
the
Seraphins
,
the
Bishops
to
the
Cherubins
,
the
Parsons
and
Curates
to
the
Arch-angels
,
the
Abbots
and
Superiours
of
Regular
men
,
to
the
Principalities
,
&c.
If
now
wee
should
examine
this
businesse
by
the
fruite
,
which
both
the
one
and
the
other
doe
produce
in
the
Church
,
there
would
bee
much
to
be
sayd
,
but
this
would
bee
odious
.
It
is
better
that
you
be
pleased
to
imploy
your
memories
upon
that
which
hath
beene
sayd
already
,
and
to
retaine
that
in
your
minds
,
which
was
delivered
by
two
Holy
Prelates
,
speaking
in
these
wordes
.
Petri
Successor
pia
prouidet
saluti
Greg.
in
Past.
plenus
est
,
&
tamen
in
Dei
messe
,
rarus
operarius
inuentiur
.
This
great
Pope
,
and
this
great
Cardinall
,
when
they
speake
these
wordes●
do
they
thinke
,
they
trouble
the
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
?
9.
If
these
Regulars
did
intrud●
themselues
,
and
as
Tertullian
sayth●
Si
quis
missus
est
a
seipso
:
If
they
made
hauocke
where
they
goe
,
and
disturbed
the
Order
of
the
Church
,
i●
would
indeede
;
be
inexcuseable
,
and
punishable
.
But
beeing
inspired
by
Almighty
God
,
authorised
by
Councells
,
sent
by
Popes
,
approoved
by
the
Bishops
of
all
times
,
and
of
all
Countries
in
the
World
;
hauing
bi●
in
possession
of
so
many
ages
,
and
succeeding
their
predecessours
,
who
haue
lost
their
liues
in
cultiuating
the
Vine-yard
of
Iesus
Christ
:
Alas
,
shall
this
be
called
a
trouble
to
the
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
?
Hierarchicha
opera
non
peragunt
authoritate
sua
,
sed
Ordinariorum
,
&
potissimê
summi
pontificis
:
10.
It
is
to
bee
feared
that
the
Church
will
finde
her selfe
like
the
poore
Rebecca
,
who
felt
two
brothers
contend
so
furiously
in
her
wombe
,
and
that
shee
may
say
,
as
the
Spouse
doth
,
by
the
relation
of
Saint
Bernard
.
Filij
matris
meae
pugnauerunt
contra
〈◊〉
,
quia
pugnauerunt
contra
se
.
Si
sic
futurum
erat
,
quid
quid
necesse
erat
me
concipere
?
I
must
needes
make
you
heare
the
voyce
of
this
worthy
Prelate
.
That
the
rankes
M.
de
Belley
.
Serm.
10.
de
S.
Ignat.
of
this
Militant
Church
,
haue
been
addressed
according
to
the
Orders
of
the
Triumphant
,
there
is
no
doubt
at
all
.
The
Hierarchy
of
the
one
,
hauing
beene
formed
according
to
the
modell
of
that
Mountaine
of
Heauen
,
amongst
the
inhabitants
of
the
eternall
Syon
.
Besides
,
in
this
Hierarchy
,
which
contained
the
Order
of
Pastors
in
the
Church
of
God●
there
bee
added
certaine
troupes
o●
succours
,
which
enter
into
the
Orde●
with
them
,
as
Michael
did
into
tha●
of
the
Angell
of
Israel
;
and
thes●
troupes
compose
a
kinde
of
Hierarchy
,
by
reason
of
their
particular
government
,
and
of
a
speciall
kind●
of
Oeconomy
,
which
they
obseru●
under
the
name
of
Orders
,
and
o●
Regularity
.
And
although
these
congregations
of
men
haue
many
differences
,
yet
are
they
without
any
diuision
amongst
themselues
;
and
especially
without
separation
from
the
body
of
the
Church
in
generall
.
And
they
beautifie
this
Spouse
of
the
Lambe
by
those
delightfull
varieties
:
for
which
the
Holy
Scripture
declareth
her
to
be
so
gratefull
.
And
they
compose
the
pretious
Carguanet
which
adorneth
the
necke
of
this
chast
Doue
with
so
great
lustre
.
I
say
therefore
that
the
Orders
of
Regulars
compose
a
particular
Hierarchy
:
yet
●nexed
neuerthelesse
to
the
generall
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
.
Not
●at
Religious
men
make
any
new
Religion
in
point
of
beleefe
,
or
that
they
maintaine
any
difference
therein
,
from
the
rest
of
the
faithfull
,
but
on
the
other
side
,
for
as
much
as
their
life
is
more
exemplar
,
and
more
perfect
,
and
in
regard
that
they
are
the
most
illustrious
portion
of
the
flocke
of
Iesus
Christ
;
their
piety
doth
make
their
faith
much
more
delicate
and
more
docile
.
Their
soules
not
finding
difficulty
to
beleeue
any
thing
,
so
that
it
make
for
the
aduantage
of
his
glory
,
who
drew
them
out
of
the
darkenesse
of
this
World
,
to
the
admirable
light
of
the
practise
of
those
counsells
of
his
,
which
put
them
into
the
state
of
acquiring
perfection
.
But
I
was
saying
that
they
seemed
to
compose
a
kinde
of
Hierarchy
by
reason
of
their
exemptions
,
whic●
substract
them
from
the
jurisdictio●
of
the
ordinary
Prelates
,
and
Pastor●
because
their
life
is
sequested
fro●
the
wayes
of
worldly
men
,
and
because
the
correspondencies
of
their
Oeconomy
,
which
finally
pitcheth
vpon
the
holy
seate
of
Rome
,
by
th●
degrees
of
their
locall
Superiours
their
Prouincialls
,
and
their
Generalls
,
is
a
coppy
drawne
out
of
the
Originall
of
Parish
Priests
Diocessaries
,
hnd
Metropolitans
,
according
to
that
order
which
the
Sonne
of
God
hath
established
in
his
Church
,
the
whole
rendring
it selfe
into
the
vnity
of
the
Apostolicall
Seate
of
St.
Peter
,
as
into
the
center
upon
which
,
as
upon
an
immoueable
Rocke
our
Lord
hath
established
his
Holy
Church
.
11.
And
now
since
they
will
mould
the
Hierarchy
of
the
earth
,
uppon
that
of
Heaven
,
it
commeth
fitly
to
our
purpose
:
for
besides
the
Angells
●uardians
,
who
are
they
which
go●erne
the
World
in
the
ordinary
●ay
?
Such
as
are
good
Diuines
●ow
,
that
there
is
not
in
a
manner
●ny
Quier
of
Angells
,
whereof
God
doth
not
sometimes
send
one
,
or
other
to
performe
some
great
charities
to
mankind
.
Sometimes
a
Cherubin
,
sometimes
a
Seraphin
,
sometimes
an
Arch-angell
;
and
(
as
Saint
Paul
sayd
to
the
Hebrewes
,
)
Omnes
sunt
administratorij
spiritus
,
in
Ministerium
missi
propter
eos
qui
hereditatem
capient
salutis
.
And
now
doe
you
beleeue
,
that
the
ordinary
Angels
take
it
ill
,
when
the
extraordinaries
come
to
succour
,
and
helpe
to
saue
soules
;
and
thinke
you
that
this
is
a
troubling
of
the
Hierarchies
.
But
you
will
say
,
haue
not
perhaps
the
ordinary
Angels
sufficient
power
to
doe
what
is
fit
.
To
which
I
make
you
this
answere
.
Shall
wee
give
Law
to
God
,
and
prescri●
to
him
what
he
shall
doe
?
and
sha●
we
offer
to
change
the
unspeakeab●
designes
of
his
holy
Prouidence
,
an●
of
his
Charity
?
when
the
Apostle●
were
so
loaden
,
that
they
could
no●
draw
their
net
,
being
then
so
full●
fish
,
they
saw
another
boate
whic●
So
farre
off
are
they
from
mis-l●king
,
that
others
should
put
thei●
hands
to
their
worke
,
that
they
intreate
them
to
doe
it
with
great
instance
,
and
without
that
succo●●
they
might
perhaps
haue
lost
bot●
their
paines
,
and
their
fish
;
and
thi●
passage
is
applied
to
this
argumen●
by
some
great
personages
,
for
th●
Apostles
represent
the
Prelates
and
Pastors
;
and
that
little
boate
the
Regulars
,
who
are
called
to
succor
and
assist
in
the
sauing
of
soules
.
12.
If
men
say
,
that
the
Hierar●y
is
no
other
thing
,
then
my
Lords
●e
Prelates
,
and
the
Parsons
and
●urates
,
if
that
be
so
,
it
is
certaine
,
●at
Religious
men
are
not
of
it
.
If
●en
say
,
that
none
are
of
the
Hie●rchy
,
but
they
who
haue
charge
of
soules
,
in
that
case
,
neither
the
Cardinalls
nor
Canons
,
nor
Religious
,
nor
Abbots
,
nor
Chapters
,
nor
a
world
of
Ecclesiasticall
persons
,
shal
be
of
it
.
But
wee
must
consider
whether
in
very
deed
,
the
nature
of
a
Hierarchy
consist
in
that
:
For
St.
Dennis
,
of
whom
all
the
World
hath
taken
and
learned
,
what
belongeth
to
a
Hierarchy
;
and
Saint
●homas
after
him
,
saith
first
,
that
Hierarchia
est
saier
Principatus
,
&
multitudo
ordinata
sub
vno
principe
.
2.
Vna
est
Hierarchia
hominum
,
&
Angelorum
sub
vno
principe
Deo
.
3
In
diuinis
personis
est
Ordo
,
sed
non
est
Hierarchia
;
quia
non
est
ibi
purgare
,
illuminare
,
&
perficere
,
〈◊〉
quo
consistit
Hierarchia
.
4.
Non
ess●
multitudo
ordinata
,
sed
confusa
;
si●
multitudine
diuersi
ordines
non
essen●
Vt
ergó
sit
Hierarchia
,
debent
e●
diuersi
Ordines
sub
vnius
Princip●
gubernatione
.
In
this
sence
,
all
th●
which
is
in
the
Church
beeing
auow●ed
and
addressed
by
the
Pope
,
wh●
is
the
chiefe
of
this
Ecclesiastica●
Hierarchy
,
and
put
in
that
pla●
which
hath
beene
destined
for
it
,
〈◊〉
purge
illuminate
,
and
giue
perfection
,
is
so
farre
of
,
from
being
out
o●
the
Hierarchy
,
that
it
is
a
very
profitable
part
thereof
,
and
which
,
in
a●
times
,
hath
done
admirable
thing●
for
the
seruice
of
God
,
of
the
Church●
of
Prelates
,
of
Pastors
,
and
for
th●
good
of
soules
.
But
if
the
word
o●
Hierarchy
be
taken
in
the
most
rigorous
sence
,
and
if
it
comprehend
nothing
else
,
but
Prelates
,
and
Pastor●
and
them
whom
they
imploy
,
(
themselues
not
being
able
in
their
owne
●ersons
,
to
do
al
that
which
is
fit
)
in
●his
case
,
the
Regulars
will
fall
out
in
●ood
earnest
,
to
bee
of
the
Hierar●hy
,
for
they
are
imployed
therein
●y
Councells
,
by
Popes
,
by
a
world
●f
Prelates
,
yea
,
and
by
the
greatest
●art
of
Pastors
themselues
;
excep●ing
onely
some
few
,
who
of
late
●aue
made
noyse
enough
.
The
Kings
of
France
themselues
haue
commaunded
this
to
bee
obserued
in
their
Dominions
,
in
such
sort
,
as
that
Saint
Lewis
layd
a
perpetuall
sentence
of
banishment
out
of
his
Kingdome
,
vpon
that
Doctor
Gulielmus
de
Sancto
Amore
,
who
alreadie
had
been
condemned
at
Rome
,
in
full
Consistory
,
and
whose
booke
was
mis-liked
,
and
torne
,
and
yet
worse
vsed
;
that
booke
which
he
had
composed
against
the
Cordeliers
,
and
the
Iacobins
,
and
wherein
he
serued
himselfe
of
the
same
Arguments
in
effect
,
in
the
strength
whereof
men
make
such
a
hoo-bub
in
thes●
dayes
.
13.
But
you
will
say
perhaps
,
tha●
Pope
Anicetus
and
others
,
and
th●
Councells
also
,
and
the
Canons
do●
take
that
for
the
Hierarchy
,
whic●
Christ
our
Lord
did
first
send
,
namely
his
Apostles
,
and
then
his
Disciples
,
by
two
and
two
,
whom
th●
Prelates
and
Pastors
doe
succeed●
But
it
is
one
thing
,
when
they
say
that
these
latter
succeede
those
former
,
and
another
thing
it
is
to
affirme
,
that
none
but
they
are
in
the
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
:
For
what
will
you
say
,
if
other
great
Saint●
make
it
good
,
that
you
must
rather●
take
the
Hierarchy
by
the
Parable
o●
the
Vine-yard
,
which
is
the
Church●
There
indeede
the
first
are
my
Lords
the
most
reuerend
Bishops
;
and
they
who
follow
after
are
the
venerable
Pastors
,
and
Parsons
and
Curates
,
but
that
they
who
are
sent
at
the
ninth
●d
eleuenth
houres
,
are
those
Re●lars
who
are
designed
to
Preach
,
●d
receiue
confessions
,
&c.
as
being
●me
but
towards
the
euening
,
but
●ho
yet
neuerthelesse
shall
at
the
end
〈◊〉
the
day
bee
passed
for
true
labou●rs
,
and
shall
also
be
well
payd
,
and
●ith
the
same
coyne
of
those
others
.
●hose
eminent
men
,
to
whom
God
●ue
his
spirit
for
the
assistance
of
●oses
and
Aaron
,
in
their
gouerne●ent
of
the
people
of
Israel
,
did
●ey
trouble
the
Hierarchy
?
Congrega
14.
Let
us
yet
come
closer
,
and
●y
,
that
since
it
belongeth
to
the
●icar
of
Christ
our
Lord
,
to
go●erne
this
Hierarchy
,
and
that
hee
〈◊〉
the
head
thereof
(
as
that
learned
●octor
of
the
Sorbonne
doth
excellently
Pope
Gregory
the
ninth
in
the
Bul●
Cum
messis
,
whereby
hee
giueth
diuerse
Priuiledges
to
the
Minorite
F●ers
,
and
namely
,
in
the
administra●
of
Sacraments
,
hath
three
motiue●
The
first
,
Cum
messis
multa
sit
,
oper●
rij
verò
pauci
,
&c.
The
second
,
Quo●
Ministerium
vestrum
diligentèr
i●plentes
,
vos
operarios
inconfusibile●
exhibetis
.
The
third
,
Vt
qui
spirit●
●uitis
,
spiritu
&
ambuletis
,
de
doctri●
vestra
&
conuersatione
,
flores
&
●uctus
proueniant
gratiores
.
Paul
the
third
,
in
the
Bull
,
Cum
●ter
,
whereby
hee
granterh
many
●riuiledges
to
the
society
of
Iesus
,
●oth
mention
two
motiues
of
that
●rant
:
The
first
,
Ne
gregi
Dominico
●imarum
cura
de
sit
,
&
illum
anti●us
serpens
indefensum
&
inpraepara●m
inuadat
.
The
second
,
attendentes
●d
fructus
vberes
quos
in
domo
Domi●i
hactenus
produxistis
,
&
producere
●on
de
sinitis
vestrae
Religione
,
integri●ate
,
scientia
,
doctrina
,
moribus
&
ex●erientia
,
&c.
Pius
Quintus
,
in
the
Bull
,
Et
si
Men●icantium
,
whereby
hee
confirmes
all
●riuiledges
of
the
Mendicant
Fryers
●ayth
,
Attendentes
plerosque
exve●erabilibus
fratribus
nostris
Archiepis●opis
,
&
Episcopis
,
qui
Ordines
Men●icantium
praecipuê
,
tanquam
fructise●os
in
agro
domini
palmites
;
&
colere
,
&
adjuvare
deberent
,
non
solum●
exequi
negligere
,
vecumetiam
Con●
Tridentini
decretis
in
pravum
sens●
retoris
,
vos
,
&
eorum
quemlibit
,
〈◊〉
rijs
afficere
incommodis
,
&
pertur●tionibus
,
eorumque
Privilegijs
〈◊〉
modicum
afferre
gravamen
conant●
(
whereof
hee
recounteth
diue●
proptereá
volentes
praemissis
,
ac●
similibus
excessibus
&
gravamini●
ex
nostri
Pastoralis
Officij
debito
pro●dere
.
Attendentes
etiam
illos
qui
o●diei
,
&
aestus
,
tam
in
praedicatio●bus
,
quam
in
caeteris
spiritualib●
muneribus
quotidiè
sustinent
,
nis●tiam
aliquantum
piè
subleventur
,
fac●fore
,
ut
oprressi
à
suis
officijs
omni●
desistant
,
ne
in
posterum
●is
aliquo●
inferatur
gravamen
,
&c.
omni
&
s●gula
Privilegia
,
&c.
quomodo-lib●
concessa
,
&c.
authoritate
Apostolu●
tenore
praesentium
,
perpetuò
approb●mus
&
confirmamus
.
Alexander
the
fourth
,
a
long
tim●
before
this
,
had
the
same
motiue
for
●he
Cordeliers
,
in
the
Bull
of
Nimis
,
●hereby
hee
protected
them
against
●he
persecution
of
certaine
Clarkes
,
●nd
sayth
thus
,
Nimis
iniqua
vicis●itudine
largitori
bonorum
omnium
respondetur
,
dum
ij
qui
de
patrimonio
Christi
impinguati
,
luxuriant
damna●iliter
,
in
eodem
Christum
patenter
●nfamulis
suis
non
verentur
,
acsi
fa●tus
sit
impotens
Dominum
vltionum
,
&c.
Cumquè
non
desint
plerique
tam
Ecclesiarum
Prelati
,
quam
alij
,
qui
●aeca
cupiditate
traducti
,
propriae
avi●itati
subtrahi
reputantes
,
quicquid
vobis
fidelium
pietas
elargitur
,
quie●em
vestram
multipliciter
inquietant
,
contra
vos
molestiarum
varias
occasiones
exquirentes
.
Volunt
namque
&c.
(
where
he
recounteth
al
those
wrongs
which
the
sayd
Cordeliers
had
received
of
the
sayd
Clarkes
.
)
Nè
hujus
modi
gravamina
vobis
ab
eisdem
Pre●latis
,
vel
eorum
subditis
vlterius
inferantur
,
authoritate
praesenti●
districtius
inhibemus
,
&c.
Gregorie
the
14th
.
in
his
Bul
,
Ecclesi●
Catholicae
,
had
also
the
same
motiu●
for
many
Priviledges
,
which
he
gav●
or
confirmed
,
to
the
Society
of
Iesu●
15.
If
men
desire
to
see
generall
Councells
,
for
making
an
end
of
this
proofe
,
they
may
be
easily
brought
but
you
know
them
better
then
I
,
and
therefore
it
would
bee
a
superfluous
discourse
;
for
you
know
(
as
I
say
)
what
the
Councels
of
Viena
,
of
Lateran
,
and
of
Trent
affirme
.
If
therefore
to
haue
shed
so
muc●
blood
,
for
the
maintayning
of
th●
Christian
Faith
,
and
of
the
Churc●
over
the
whole
World
,
if
to
hau●
sweate
blood
and
water
.
If
〈◊〉
haue
fought
against
Heresie
and
Errors
,
and
Schisme
if
to
hau●
couragiously
defended
the
Catholique
Church
,
even
to
the
last
breath
of
life
;
if
to
haue
Preached
,
writte●
so
many
bookes
,
laboured
night
and
day
,
both
in
Cities
and
Countries
,
●hrough
whole
ages
:
to
haue
served
●he
whole
World
,
to
haue
obliged
●en
millions
of
soules
to
haue
sacrifi●ed
their
life
to
the
glory
of
God
,
●nder
the
authority
,
and
by
the
●ommandement
of
so
many
Popes
,
and
holy
Prelates
,
even
of
this
Kingdome
of
France
:
If
this
,
I
say
,
be
to
trouble
the
Hierarchy
,
if
this
bee
a
mortall
sinne
,
if
this
be
a
Schisme
,
wee
cannot
indeede
deny
,
but
that
by
the
space
of
so
many
Ages
,
the
Regulars
haue
committed
these
disorders
;
and
that
so
many
holy
and
wise
Prelates
,
at
whose
feete
they
dyed
,
in
labour
under
them
,
and
for
them
,
throughout
their
Dioceses
,
that
these
great
Prelates
,
I
say
,
haue
committed
a
very
grieuous
fault
.
But
so
also
on
the
other-side
,
if
these
proceedings
doe
merit
any
returne
of
friendship
,
if
any
kinde
of
sweetenesse
,
it
seemes
,
that
it
were
more
honourable
for
men
to
shewe
some
little
good
will
to
them
,
who
desir●
to
imploy
their
liues
,
and
their
labours
under
the
authority
of
my
Lords
the
Prelates
,
to
liue
and
dy●
at
their
feete
for
the
glory
of
God●
and
the
good
of
soules
,
which
ar●
very
glad
to
finde
themselues
assisted●
and
comforted
by
them
,
and
doe
accept
of
the
little
services
which
they
can
doe
.
16.
O
how
highly
do
I
commend●
that
good
and
gallant
Pastor
in
Paris
,
who
did
so
holily
,
and
so
ingeniously
say
as
followeth
.
Let
us
doe
better
then
the
Regulars
,
and
let
us
not
busie
our selues
with
crying
out
Hierarchy
,
Hierarchy
:
for
infallibly
,
if
wee
doe
better
then
they
,
wee
shall
conserue
our
Hierarchy
,
and
wee
shall
neede
to
be
in
no
feare
least
it
diminish
,
or
that
wee
shal
bee
entred
into
by
a
breach
,
or
that
it
shall
grow
to
bee
dissipated
.
But
till
such
time
,
as
wee
see
our selues
in
that
condition
,
why
shall
wee
not
serue
our selues
of
the
holy
labours
of
so
many
good
servants
of
God
;
who
are
withall
,
of
our
owne
flesh
,
and
bone
,
and
of
our
owne
blood
,
and
our
brethren
,
and
who
might
perhaps
haue
beene
that
which
wee
are
,
and
perhaps
better
then
wee
:
But
for
the
loue
of
God
,
they
would
not
accept
it
.
If
all
the
World
heere
had
a
heart
,
and
a
tongue
like
that
of
this
worthy
personage
,
the
Gallican
Church
,
would
be
a
Heauen
upon
earth
,
but
as
soone
as
men
permit
the
infernall
Dragon
to
whisle
there
,
and
that
he
promise
certaine
divinities
,
and
sublime
greatnesses
,
a
thousand
divisions
,
and
a
thousand
sorts
of
miseries
enter
in
,
which
God
of
his
great
goodnesse
shall
remooue
if
it
pleaseth
him
,
as
I
beseech
him
,
with
all
the
powers
of
my
soule
to
doe
.
As
for
that
,
which
one
of
the
chiefe
men
of
Paris
sayd
,
concerning
proper
interest
,
the
offerings
,
the
respects
,
the
honour
,
the
power
,
and
such
other
things
as
these
,
I
wil
bee
farre
from
objecting
it
,
and
so
doubtlesse
these
things
,
would
not
be
good
for
the
Hierarchy
,
and
sure
,
there
is
no
such
matter
amongst
them
.
Besides
that
,
this
is
without
the
compasse
of
my
designe
,
and
I
haue
somewhat
else
to
doe
,
then
to
touch
those
strings
which
sound
not
well
,
and
it
would
never
become
me
well
to
doe
it
,
since
it
was
so
ill
taken
,
at
the
hands
of
that
great
person
,
a
Doctor
of
the
As
if
hee
would
say
,
alas
doe
not
amuse
your selues
about
your
owne
commodities
,
nor
about
your
owne
greatnesse
,
doe
not
hinder
the
good
●nd
comfort
,
and
perhaps
the
salva●ion
of
those
soules
,
which
are
bathed
●n
the
blood
of
Christ
our
Lord
.
Though
this
should
cost
you
somewhat
,
it
will
never
cost
you
so
much
,
as
it
cost
him
,
who
imployed
even
to
the
last
droppe
of
his
blood
upon
it
.
If
the
Regulars
doe
good
to
your
flocke
,
will
you
bee
offended
with
them
for
that
?
if
they
doe
them
no
good
,
the
World
indeed
is
much
deceived
,
which
beleeues
,
and
daily
sees
the
contrary
.
Salus
populi
suprema
lex
esto
.
The
Law
of
Lawes
,
is
the
safety
of
the
people
,
and
the
assistance
of
soules
,
and
it
is
evidently
seene
,
that
both
the
people
and
God
himselfe
haue
blessed
,
and
as
it
were
,
canonized
a
million
of
innocent
actions
of
good
Religious
men
,
who
haue
assisted
a
World
of
persons
.
If
I
durst
descend
deeply
into
this
matter
,
and
shewe
you
the
necessity
,
which
the
Church
conceiues
it selfe
to
haue
of
this
succor
,
so
fa●
of
would
it
be
,
from
tearing
this
Hierarchy
in
peeces
,
that
you
would
evidently
see
,
that
perhaps
it
would
haue
prooved
a
meere
Anarchy
,
(
a●
was
sayd
by
a
great
Arch-bishop
of
France
)
if
the
goodnesse
of
God
had
not
sent
this
helpe
.
But
I
will
not
enter
upon
this
Discourse
,
nor
giue
any
manner
of
offence
to
any
,
it
sufficeth
for
me
,
to
plead
the
cause
of
God
,
and
of
his
servants
,
shewing
the
innocency
of
their
proceeding
,
and
the
purity
of
their
intention
.
THE
THIRD
REASON
.
That
Religious
and
Priviledged
men
do
abase
the
authority
of
my
Lords
,
the
Bishops
,
and
become
,
as
it
were
,
insolent
by
reason
of
that
power
,
which
is
imparted
to
them
,
by
their
Priviledges
.
THis
is
the
source
of
all
our
great
and
most
important
difference
.
There
is
nothing
so
insupportable
as
contempt
,
●specially
when
it
growes
upon
any
●an
from
his
inferiour
;
contempt
,
●hether
it
be
truely
offered
,
or
but
●magined
,
produceth
most
prejudi●iall
effects
.
If
Regulars
haue
indeede
committed
this
sin
,
it
is
certainly
worthy
●f
blame
,
and
intolerable
;
but
so
,
if
it
●e
not
true
,
without
doubt
they
who
●ould
needs
suggest
this
to
our
Lords
●he
Prelates
,
and
perswade
them
to
beleeue
it
,
hath
beene
a
little
in
th●
wrong
;
and
to
omit
the
speaking
〈◊〉
any
thing
which
may
offend
them
,
〈◊〉
will
onely
say
,
that
their
zeale
,
ha●
had
a
little
more
of
the
smoake
,
the●
of
the
fire
.
At
the
worst
hand
,
the●
is
no
mischiefe
without
a
remedy●
and
when
the
objection
were
tru●
men
should
rather
apply
a
plaist●
with
some
lenity
,
then
teare
off
th●
arme
,
which
hath
some
little
hurt
〈◊〉
it
;
and
which
afterward
might
do
good
seruice
,
being
cured
,
and
rest●red
to
former
health
.
2.
But
I
maintaine
,
that
this
is
〈◊〉
meere
,
and
most
ougly
slander
,
an●
I
hope
,
that
,
by
the
helpe
of
God
I
shall
make
the
matter
so
cleare
,
th●
no
man
of
a
good
minde
,
wil
bee
●ble
to
refuse
me
his
beleefe
,
nor
eu●
contradict
me
with
reason
.
There
hath
not
beene
any
tim●
when
the
Diuell
hath
not
endeauor●
to
put
jealousie
into
the
mindes
〈◊〉
the
greatest
,
and
to
make
Religious
●en
,
who
are
his
capitall
,
and
irre●onciliable
enemies
,
to
be
suspected
.
Who
would
euer
haue
beleeved
,
that
●n
France
there
could
haue
bin
found
●ny
Prelate
,
whom
Saint
Bernard
●ight
put
into
jealousie
and
paine
?
And
yet
the
while
,
Iosilinus
the
Bi●hop
of
Soissons
wrote
backe
to
him
3.
It
hath
often
arrived
in
the
Church
,
that
sometimes
good
Prelates
should
heate
,
and
band
themselues
against
the
Regulars
,
and
ever
with
very
good
pretexts
,
but
time
,
patience
,
truth
,
and
God
haue
cleared
all
,
and
turned
the
storme
into
calme
.
Sometimes
the
Iacobins
haue
thoght
they
should
haue
bin
swallowed
up
;
somtimes
the
Cordeliers
;
sometimes
the
other
mendicant
Religious
,
sometimes
the
Iesuites
,
and
sometimes
the
Order
it selfe
of
Saint
Benet
;
as
beeing
too
powerfull
,
and
having
for
too
long
a
time
,
disposed
of
the
Keies
of
St.
Peter
.
But
yet
certainly
,
it
would
be
good
to
see
the
plat-forme
of
this
mighty
building
;
and
to
know
uppon
what
this
great
complaint
is
grounded
,
which
is
the
spring
and
force
of
other
complaints
:
for
is
it
perhaps
,
that
Religious
men
haue
a
desire
to
carry
away
the
Miters
and
Crosiers
of
my
Lords
the
Bishops
?
Is
it
because
they
debate
about
hauing
the
upper
end
of
the
board
,
and
to
be
seated
in
the
places
of
most
honour
?
Is
it
,
that
they
Preach
whether
they
will
or
no
,
or
in
their
Dioceses
;
and
that
they
make
themselues
little
Monarches
in
the
Empire
of
others
?
Doth
any
one
of
them
heare
Confessions
without
their
consent
,
or
at
least
,
of
their
Vicars
generall
,
according
to
the
Councell
of
Trent
?
Is
it
perhaps
,
that
they
haue
more
credit
and
beleefe
,
amongst
the
people
,
more
auditors
at
their
Sermons
,
and
after
a
sort
,
more
power
in
apparance
then
many
others
?
Deere
God
,
what
is
the
matter
,
and
how
shall
men
be
able
to
behaue
themselues
?
If
these
Religious
be
vulgar
persons
,
men
dispise
them
:
If
there
bee
never
so
little
in
them
which
is
more
eminent
,
men
enter
into
jealousies
,
and
say
.
There
is
no
remedy
,
but
these
men
must
be
humbled
.
In
fine
,
what
is
that
which
they
doe
whereby
indeede
the
great
power
of
the
Prelates
of
the
Church
,
is
abased
?
Is
it
,
that
they
haue
too
many
Priviledges
,
and
too
great
authority
to
absolue
sinnes
?
Is
it
that
they
take
Confessions
within
fifteene
dayes
of
Easter
,
and
Minister
the
Communion
excepting
onely
vpon
Easter
day
,
which
the
Canons
,
and
the
Councells
haue
excepted
?
Is
it
that
men
visite
not
the
Blessed
Sacrament
in
their
Churches
,
and
that
men
enter
not
upon
taking
conziance
of
their
Regularity
?
Is
it
,
that
they
are
not
entirely
and
without
exception
dependant
upon
my
Lords
the
Bishops
in
all
and
every
thing
that
can
be
thought
of
?
Is
it
,
that
they
doe
insolently
abuse
the
favours
,
and
Priviledges
,
which
the
See
Apostolike
hath
given
them
?
or
else
,
is
it
because
,
they
doe
not
forsake
the
use
of
their
Priviledges
vppon
the
least
word
of
their
Bishop
,
even
when
he
growes
stiffe
without
reason
against
such
a
power
,
as
is
established
by
God
?
I
doe
even
draw
my
wits
dry
,
to
say
all
that
which
I
can
bring
to
memory
,
for
the
finding
of
the
motherroote
,
from
which
all
these
thornes
grow
and
sprout
;
and
these
sharpe
nestes
,
which
pricke
,
so
many
hearts
at
this
day
,
and
teare
the
union
of
the
Church
,
making
division
amongst
the
Children
of
God
,
and
(
which
is
worst
)
both
parties
conceiue
themselues
to
haue
reason
;
perhaps
whosoever
bee
deceived
,
hee
is
deceived
without
any
fault
of
his
,
but
●et
in
fine
,
he
is
deceiued
.
4.
During
the
warres
betweene
France
,
and
the
Dukes
of
Burgundie
,
there
chanced
a
certaine
thing
,
which
may
well
serue
my
turne
.
The
men
of
Lewis
the
11.
going
foorth
one
morning
before
day
,
to
make
some
discovery
in
the
Country
,
saw
an
incredible
number
of
reedes
growing
out
of
a
marrish
ground
.
They
firmely
beleeved
that
it
was
some
troupes
of
light
horse
,
who
had
a
minde
to
make
some
enterprize
upon
the
Kings
Armie
.
Others
thought
,
that
they
were
Lanciers
,
who
came
to
make
a
roade
for
some
surprise
.
There
were
never
men
more
afraid
.
They
all
at
full
gallop
retired
themselues
into
the
grosse
of
their
Army
,
they
put
the
Campe
into
Alarme
,
and
thrust
feare
into
the
most
valiant
hear●es
of
the
French
Army
,
expecting
instantly
some
shrewd
skirmish
.
As
soone
a●
the
twy-light
stroke
through
th●
night
,
and
beganne
to
open
the
day
,
and
that
the
morning
Starre
,
had
already
disclosed
a
little
light
,
me●
saw
that
this
was
nothing
but
empty●
Canes
and
Reedes
,
which
waved
a●
the
discretion
of
the
wind
;
so
as
tha●
horrible
feare
was
instantly
changed
into
a
publike
laughter
,
and
fell
by
way
of
confusion
upon
those
childis●
scoutes
,
for
having
made
so
foolis●
and
so
frivolous
a
report
.
They
who
loue
not
Religious
men
and
who
goe
tossing
up
and
downe
to
discover
some
little
passage
,
some
doubtfull
Canon
of
some
Provinciall
Synod
,
and
indeede
,
some
I
kno●
not
what
;
beeing
all
wrapped
up
eyther
in
the
night
of
passion
,
or
of
proper
interest
,
doe
represent
the
Orders
of
Religious
men
,
as
of
Armies
all
●camped
,
and
resolved
to
assault
●nd
subdue
the
authority
of
my
●ords
the
Prelates
.
They
tell
them
●ales
without
ceasing
,
and
make
most
●range
reports
,
they
cast
so
many
●eares
into
their
mindes
,
and
paint
●ut
the
businesse
so
hideously
,
they
al●eadge
so
many
cases
hapned
,
and
not
●apned
too
,
they
tickle
them
so
de●ightfully
about
the
delicate
point
of
their
authority
,
and
the
power
of
the
Crosier
,
that
they
shake
even
such
,
as
are
most
immoveable
.
Who
would
not
beleeve
men
so
learned
,
and
who
make
profession
of
so
much
zeale
,
and
●iety
,
and
who
haue
done
nothing
but
cry
out
aboue
these
thirty
yeares
?
But
yet
in
truth
,
if
wee
shall
behold
the
beame
of
that
rising
Sunne
of
truth
,
and
looke
on
them
a
little
neere
at
hand
,
it
wil
be
found
,
that
these
armed
men
be
but
reedes
,
and
people
voyd
of
all
that
interest
and
ambition
,
which
is
layd
to
their
charge
,
and
who
of
all
things
are
thinking
least
of
contending
with
that
lawfull
authoritie
,
which
God
hath
given
to
my
Lords
the
Bishops
,
and
to
the
Pastors
of
the
Church
.
5.
Let
us
beginne
in
the
name
of
God
to
see
,
and
weigh
this
truth
which
is
of
so
much
importance
.
I●
the
Religious
doe
nothing
without
reason
,
without
right
,
without
auow
,
without
authority
,
nay
(
I
will
say
more
)
without
being
obliged
in
conscience
,
is
there
any
man
of
common
sence
,
who
can
blame
them
for
it
?
For
if
they
attempt
any
thing
beyond
this
,
there
is
indeede
no
excuse
,
nor
any
cloake
which
can
cover
them
,
&
they
must
be
reduced
into
tearmes
of
reason
.
But
is
it
not
fit
,
that
every
man
defend
his
right
,
and
that
every
one
enjoy
what
is
his
owne
,
and
which
is
justly
acquired
by
him
?
There
are
now
so
many
ages
,
since
Regulars
are
in
possession
of
their
priviledges
,
and
shall
they
suffer
them
●o
bee
lost
and
abolished
by
a
mor●ings
worke
?
Priviledges
well
giuen
,
●ery
authenticall
,
granted
by
so
ma●y
,
and
so
holy
Popes
,
admitted
by
●o
many
holy
Prelates
through
out
●e
Christian
world
;
authorised
by
●ur
Kings
,
recorded
or
permitted
by
so
●any
Soveraigne
Courts
of
justice
;
●btayned
by
the
sweate
of
so
many
●rowes
,
by
the
effusion
of
so
much
●lood
,
by
meanes
of
so
long
,
so
●reat
,
so
holy
labours
,
of
so
many
,
and
●o
worthy
personages
,
the
very
Suns
●f
their
several
ages
,
must
all
this
,
I
say
,
●ee
suffered
to
perish
by
a
mornings
●orke
?
And
al
this
upon
what
reason
?
〈◊〉
will
not
name
it
,
but
I
rather
choose
●o
beseech
you
to
weigh
it
well
in
the
●ght
of
God
,
and
in
the
scales
of
the
●anctuarie
.
6.
But
there
is
much
more
then
●his
,
which
is
,
that
the
holy
Canons
●orbid
in
tearmes
expresse
,
worthy
to
●e
well
observed
,
and
shew
that
Regulars
cannot
commit
this
unwo●thinesse
,
without
hurting
their
co●science
,
and
(
that
which
greatly
i●ports
)
without
doing
much
wron●
both
to
the
Pope
,
and
to
the
Churc●
Let
us
heare
the
Canon
,
and
th●
Pope
.
Cum
et
si
sponte
volueris
,
de
●re
Dec.
Greg.
tit.
43
de
arbitris
.
c.
5.
tamen
nequiveris
sine
licentia
Ro●
Pont.
renuneiare
Priuilegijs
,
vel
Ind●
gentijs
libertatis
,
quae
Monasterium
●lud
indicant
ad
jus
,
&
proprietat●
Romanae
Ecclesiae
pertinere
.
Such
〈◊〉
are
the
houses
of
the
Order
of
Sai●
Francis
,
and
the
other
Mendican●
Pope
Gregory
speaking
to
an
Abbo●
who
desired
to
forgoe
all
his
Priv●ledges
at
the
instance
of
the
Bisho●
(
who
prest
him
much
)
makes
hi●
know
his
fault
,
and
tels
him
,
that
h●
was
doing
that
,
which
is
aboue
〈◊〉
power
,
and
contrary
to
his
consc●ence
,
and
contrary
to
the
authori●
of
the
See
Apostolike
,
and
again●
the
sacred
and
setled
stile
of
th●
Church
.
The
Lawes
of
the
Church
,
●●sse
much
further
then
this
,
for
●●ey
declare
that
if
Regulars
should
●●nounce
all
their
Priviledges
,
all
that
●●ould
stand
for
nothing
,
and
bee
of
●o
value
.
Nay
yet
further
,
they
are
●ommaunded
under
paine
of
excom●unication
,
not
to
alienate
any
●ing
of
their
temporals
,
and
much
●sle
of
their
spirituals
:
So
that
it
is
●ot
now
the
Religious
whom
men
●ppose
,
but
the
Pope
,
the
See
Apo●olike
,
the
Church
,
and
they
oppose
●ntiquitie
.
Let
us
heare
the
wordes
.
●nnocent
the
third
,
to
the
Arch-bi●hop
act.
1.
Regularibus
(
saith
Emanuel
Rodericu●
quia
clerici
habent
liberam
volun●tem
,
Regulares
verò
non
habent
vell●
nec
nolle
;
ideo
non
potest
praejudicare
●rum
consensus
in
judicem
non
suu●
.
All
this
Article
deserues
to
bee
rea●
as
also
the
Article
2.
of
the
questio●
27.
where
hee
bringeth
many
proh●bitions
to
alienate
the
goods
〈◊〉
Churches
and
Monasteries
,
eue●
under
the
paine
of
Excommunicat●on
.
That
of
Paul
the
second
,
in
the
extravagant
Ambitiosae
is
express●
It
is
a
thing
worthy
of
remarke
,
●hich
a
great
Prelate
sayd
one
day
in
●n
assembly
of
Prelates
,
that
this
af●aire
went
full
to
iustle
vpon
the
●ope
,
and
that
the
bottome
of
the
●usinesse
tended
but
to
some
perni●ious
diuision
and
schisme
.
I
would
name
him
for
honors
sake
,
●ere
it
not
,
that
he
is
still
liuing
,
and
●hat
perhaps
he
would
not
wish
to
be
●ited
vpon
this
occasion
.
If
the
Popes
,
who
haue
giuen
●hem
these
Privileges
,
shall
take
them
●way
againe
,
there
is
no
more
to
be
●one
,
but
to
bow
downe
the
head
,
to
●bey
with
humility
,
and
to
be
con●ent
.
But
that
the
Regulars
should
●egrade
themselues
,
that
they
should
●ffend
the
See
Apostolick●
,
that
they
●hould
doe
wrong
to
millions
of
●ules
,
that
they
should
renounce
the
●uours
imparted
to
them
by
Kings
,
●his
counsaile
cannot
be
fitly
giuen
●hem
,
especially
when
a
man
considers
to
what
this
businesse
tende●●
and
the
motiues
whereby
God
seet●
that
men
are
drawne
,
and
the
intere●
which
the
Church
hath
herein
,
an●
the
saluation
of
soules
,
and
in
fin●
that
they
are
excommunicated
,
〈◊〉
they
do
it
of
themselues
.
7.
But
this
goeth
yet
further
,
fo●
they
who
call
in
question
the
force
〈◊〉
Priviledges
granted
by
Popes
,
gro●
to
shake
whole
Kingdomes
,
Chapters
,
Commonalties
,
and
they
ouerturne
the
peace
of
the
Church
.
An●
in
fine
,
for
what
cause
,
and
for
wh●●
is
the
question
?
Alas
,
he
who
foun●
into
the
bottome
of
this
business●
cannot
chuse
but
haue
his
hart
tran●perst
.
But
you
will
say
,
it
is
not
the
Pr●viledge
which
we
question
;
but
r●ther
the
misuse
,
and
intollerable
●buse
which
growes
thereby
.
I
am
not
such
a
Sot
,
as
that
I
w
…
defend
and
Canonize
an
abuse
,
or
y
…
deny
,
that
some
abuse
may
slide
in
;
●or
that
some
indiscreet
persons
may
●ot
be
found
.
The
world
was
neuer
●ithout
such
,
nor
euer
will
be
,
vn●esse
God
worke
a
miracle
.
But
be
●ou
pleased
,
to
let
the
abuses
and
●ust
complaints
which
you
haue
to
●ake
,
be
set
downe
,
and
infallibly
●hey
shall
be
remedied
,
without
noise
,
●ithout
dispute
,
and
without
scan●all
.
Might
I
be
so
bold
,
as
to
aske
●hether
they
who
giue
you
these
im●ressions
against
vs
,
be
impeccable
or
●o
?
whether
they
commit
any
●aults
?
whether
euer
they
fall
into
●ny
indiscretion
?
If
they
confesse
●ot
themselues
like
other
men
?
If
●hen
you
shall
haue
taken
all
the
●eligious
away
;
they
of
whom
you
●eane
to
serue
your selues
,
shall
not
●rop
downe
from
heauen
,
and
be
●onfirmed
in
grace
,
without
so
much
●s
tripping
at
any
time
?
whether
●hey
and
you
shall
neuer
be
in
any
difference
with
one
another
,
notwithstanding
rhat
Saint
Peter
,
and
Saint
Paul
,
had
disputes
betweene
themselues
;
and
two
Angels
are
found
in
Daniel
to
haue
fought
with
one
another
more
then
twenty
dayes
?
Haue
you
no
feare
my
Lords
of
the
passage
of
that
old
Roman
,
Exurgen●
If
this
be
so
,
shewe
us
our
abuses
;
if
wee
give
you
not
contentment
,
if
wee
alleadge
not
reasons
which
are
to
be
of
full
weight
,
and
worthy
of
beeing
receiued
;
if
wee
doe
nto
produce
as
many
Authenticall
Bulls
as
can
be
desired
;
wee
shall
at
least
bee
ready
to
submit
our selues
to
all
kinde
of
satisfaction
,
and
to
liue
and
dye
at
your
feete
,
and
under
those
just
lawes
which
you
shal
bee
pleased
to
prescribe
.
But
first
,
we
must
haue
three
words
,
and
they
are
these
.
To
Vnderstand
,
to
Consider
,
and
to
Iudge
.
And
to
keepe
your selues
from
prejudging
,
and
to
make
supposition
of
nothing
,
which
may
not
be
solidly
averred
,
and
that
after
the
parties
be
heard
by
word
of
mouth
,
for
otherwise
there
will
never
bee
a●
ende
.
Onely
you
wil
bee
pleased
to
consider
things
maturely
,
for
you
cannot
condemne
us
without
fault
,
but
by
condemning
Popes
,
Councels
,
Kings
,
Cardinalls
,
and
the
greater
part
of
my
Lords
the
Prelates
of
France
,
your
Predecessours
,
whom
you
arraigne
in
arraigning
us
.
8.
Three
great
Arch-bishops
,
all
yet
aliue
,
and
the
chiefe
of
this
Kingdome
,
haue
told
mee
more
the●
once
,
that
they
haue
never
derived
more
honour
,
and
service
from
any
,
then
from
Religious
men
.
A
hundred
Bishops
haue
sayd
as
much
,
and
I
will
make
it
good
,
that
there
is
no
man
,
who
serveth
and
honoreth
my
Lords
the
Prelates
,
with
a
better
heart
,
and
with
lesse
interest
,
then
good
Religious
men
doe
,
nor
who
would
imploy
their
liues
,
and
their
heads
more
frankly
for
the
service
of
God
,
and
of
my
Lords
the
Bishops
,
●f
there
were
neede
.
Never
(
sayth
S.
●ugustine
)
did
I
see
better
people
,
●hen
those
who
persever
in
Religious
●rders
,
and
neuer
worse
,
then
those
●ho
depart
from
thence
.
Serue
your
●lues
of
the
former
,
and
leaue
the
●tter
,
since
you
haue
so
great
assu●nce
from
so
great
a
Bishop
,
for
●ey
being
so
good
,
how
can
they
be
〈◊〉
wicked
,
as
to
disesteeme
the
Pre●tes
,
whom
all
the
world
doth
e●eeme
so
much
.
If
Religious
men
doe
wel
,
why
do
●ou
put
your selues
in
paine
?
If
they
●o
ill
,
command
their
Superiours
to
●ke
order
with
them
:
and
if
they
do
●t
content
you
with
reasons
which
●e
full
of
life
and
strength
;
and
in
●e
,
if
they
doe
not
their
duty
,
but
●at
they
tollerate
others
faults
,
vse
●u
that
power
,
which
God
and
the
●ouncell
giueth
you
,
and
when
this
●albe
done
,
where
is
that
contempt
Conc.
〈◊〉
.
Sess
.
21.
〈…〉
.
and
diminution
of
your
authorities●
9.
If
you
find
that
it
be
a
charg●
of
conscience
to
you
,
that
they
tak●
Confessions
at
Easter
,
I
say
,
if
it
b●
but
for
that
,
I
wil
easily
deliver
you●
the
scruple
;
for
I
will
shew
you
by
a●
by
,
that
there
is
no
conscience
〈◊〉
this
,
I
say
,
none
at
all
,
and
perhap●
there
is
more
obligation
of
consc●ence
,
not
to
hinder
it
,
as
I
shall
sh●
in
the
due
place
.
It
is
said
in
divi●ty
,
that
if
a
man
hath
two
or
thr●
good
Authors
for
an
opinion
,
〈◊〉
may
follow
it
with
a
good
cons●ence
,
and
without
any
feare
at
〈◊〉
Now
they
will
alledge
you
m●
then
twelue
Popes
,
more
then
a
h●dreth
Prelats
,
more
then
two
hundreth
Authors
,
to
shew
;
that
〈◊〉
both
may
,
and
ought
to
be
done●
good
conscience
;
and
that
perh●
otherwise
,
one
may
do
more
〈◊〉
then
good
to
soules
.
And
theref●
by
this
occasion
,
nothing
at
all
of
〈◊〉
authority
of
my
Lords
the
Prelates
do
perish
,
nor
of
the
right
of
the
Pastors
,
and
Parsons
,
and
Curats
,
nor
euen
of
their
profit
.
And
wherein
is
then
the
contempt
?
10.
But
some
man
preacheth
too
licentiously
,
and
words
fall
impertinently
from
him
to
the
scandall
of
Bishops
.
This
indeede
,
is
without
all
excuse
,
stoppe
you
therefore
his
mouth
,
take
his
Pulpit
from
him
,
get
his
Superiour
to
send
him
from
thence
;
let
his
indiscreet
zeale
be
punished
:
there
is
nothing
so
reasonable
as
this
.
For
if
there
be
any
thing
in
Prelats
to
be
wished
otherwise
,
it
is
not
in
publicke
that
we
must
proclaime
it
,
and
so
begin
to
mangle
the
reputation
of
my
Lords
the
Prelats
.
Their
name
,
and
their
life
also
ought
to
be
as
the
Sunne
,
which
is
euer
crowned
with
beames
and
glory
,
and
a
man
must
neuer
be
so
aduenturous
,
as
to
interpose
the
Moone
of
any
passion
,
or
indiscretion
,
to
eclipse
these
faire
lights
of
the
world
.
It
is
not
euery
bodies
cas●
to
say
as
Saint
Bernard
did
long
agoe
.
Clauditis
nobis
ora
,
vtinam
&
ad
Hon.
Archl.
oculos
claudatis
,
&c.
Some
one
will
haue
giuen
himselfe
leaue
,
and
will
haue
spoken
indiscreetly
,
and
fifty
others
will
haue
esteemed
it
to
bee
their
tryumph
to
speake
well
of
you
.
Alas
,
must
so
many
honest
men
suffer
for
the
indiscretion
of
some
one
,
and
must
the
head
be
cut
off
,
because
the
little
toe
is
not
right
.
11.
But
perhaps
you
would
faine
see
,
if
the
Blessed
Sacrament
bee
well
and
decently
conserved
and
kept
;
i●
there
be
nothing
in
it
but
that
,
doe
but
vouchsafe
one
day
to
goe
thither
to
say
Masse
,
and
giue
the
Communion
,
and
you
shall
see
all
at
your
case
;
if
it
be
upon
some
other
motiue
that
serues
for
the
glory
of
God
,
since
Popes
,
Councels
,
Canons
,
Custome
,
and
possession
do
so
oppose
it
.
Good
God
,
how
many
great
and
holy
Pre●ates
who
are
gone
before
you
,
did
●eaue
the
world
as
they
found
it
.
They
●ived
,
and
suffered
others
to
liue
in
●eace
:
they
were
in
a
manner
adored
●y
the
people
;
they
left
behind
them
〈◊〉
memory
so
sweete
,
and
full
of
be●ediction
.
What
is
this
which
hath
●rrived
since
that
time
,
that
the
Hea●en
and
the
earth
must
be
thus
revol●ed
?
Many
great
Prelates
haue
proceeded
so
farre
,
as
to
say
,
that
if
they
●ere
not
assisted
by
Religious
men
,
●hey
would
infallibly
leaue
both
their
●Miter
,
and
their
Crosier
:
A
Bishopricke
beeing
such
an
Office
,
and
●harge
,
that
euen
an
Angell
would
●ardly
beare
it
without
great
feare
,
as
●he
Councell
saith
.
When
any
man
is
so
bold
as
to
●inde
fault
with
any
thing
concerning
●he
power
which
our
most
Christian
●ings
,
and
the
Gallican
Church
enjoy
;
wee
are
wont
to
answere
,
th●
because
they
haue
so
infinitly
oblige●
the
See
Apostolike
,
and
for
that
t●
French-men
haue
shedde
so
muc●
blood
in
defence
of
the
Church
,
the●
haue
very
well
deserved
these
fauo●
and
are
in
a
most
just
possession
ther●of
,
and
that
men
ought
not
quest●on
them
.
And
so
my
Lords
,
gi●
mee
leaue
to
tell
you
,
after
the
sam●
manner
,
that
the
ancient
Religiou●
men
haue
endeavored
to
serue
the
V●niversall
Church
,
and
in
particular●
this
most
Christian
Church
of
Fran●
with
so
great
fidelity
,
so
much
l●bour
,
so
much
blood
,
and
the
loss●
of
so
many
liues
,
that
Popes
an●
Kings
haue
thought
it
fit
to
acknowledge
their
good
and
acceptable
services
by
imparting
some
favours
an●
priviledges
to
them
;
you
neede
bu●
reade
our
Annals
of
France
,
wher●
you
shall
see
that
which
I
dare
no●
say
,
and
which
modestie
also
will
no●
permit
mee
to
expresse
.
12.
It
is
your
greatnes
,
my
Lords
,
to
haue
men
at
your
feete
,
who
are
sometimes
so
great
,
as
that
they
may
seeme
to
obscure
others
.
Alexander
the
great
sayd
,
that
his
greatnesse
consisted
in
that
all
his
souldiers
were
Alexanders
.
Christ
our
Lord
affirmed
,
that
hee
would
haue
his
servants
appeare
to
bee
more
then
himselfe
.
Opera
quae
ego
facio
,
&
ipse
faciet
,
&
majara
horum
faciet
.
A
King
of
Aegypt
there
was
,
who
to
shewe
his
greatnesse
,
made
an
Idoll
,
which
all
the
World
was
to
adore
,
of
a
Basen
wherein
hee
washed
his
feete
.
What
jealous
apprehension
can
you
haue
of
the
greatnesse
of
Regulars
;
since
notwithstanding
that
they
were
a
hundred
times
greater
then
they
are
,
yet
still
you
see
them
prostrate
at
your
feete
whensoever
you
will
.
Are
they
to
Preach
?
behold
they
are
at
your
feete
.
Must
they
take
holy
Orders
?
behold
they
are
at
your
feete
.
Must
they
haue
power
to
heare
Confessions
in
your
Dioceses
?
Behold
they
are
at
your
feet
.
Must
they
obtaine
some
extraordinary
favour
,
and
haue
leaue
to
absolue
from
cases
reserved
?
Behold
they
are
at
your
feete
.
Doe
they
go
to
your
Townes
,
or
doe
they
depart
from
rhence
?
Behold
they
are
still
at
your
feete
.
Can
any
body
feare
after
all
this
,
that
they
who
in
effect
are
ever
at
your
feete
,
may
enter
in
parallel
with
you
for
greatnesse
,
and
may
haue
designe
to
draw
you
downe
,
they
who
haue
their
heads
at
your
feete
?
Alas
,
they
make
you
affraid
of
them
,
who
tremble
when
they
are
in
your
presence
.
13.
Would
you
permit
mee
to
let
a
word
or
two
fal
from
my
mouth
which
yet
I
will
not
presse
too
farre
?
but
yet
it
is
good
to
call
to
minde
,
that
all
Regulars
are
not
so
little
considerable
,
as
that
many
of
them
be
●ot
your
owne
flesh
and
blood
,
and
●escended
of
the
same
parents
with
●our
selues
.
Many
of
them
might
●aue
beene
Arch-bishops
,
and
Bi●hops
,
and
more
then
this
?
and
some
●aue
forsaken
Miters
,
and
Cardinals
●ats
,
to
hide
themselues
vnder
the
●oly
humilitie
of
a
religious
life
.
If
●hey
haue
despised
themselues
for
the
●oue
of
God
;
men
must
not
inferre
●hereby
,
that
they
must
be
despica●le
to
others
.
It
is
good
for
them
,
●hat
they
are
dispised
,
but
it
is
not
●lwaies
good
for
them
,
by
whom
●hey
are
so
dispised
.
Hee
who
reades
well
that
Article
of
Saint
Thomas
,
who
saith
,
that
●piscopi
sunt
in
statu
perfectionis
,
and
●hat
religious
men
are
in
via
,
doth
●row
to
wonder
as
soone
as
hee
hath
●ead
the
whole
bodie
of
that
Article
.
●ut
let
us
pause
here
,
for
I
haue
pro●ised
that
I
will
not
plunge
my selfe
too
deepely
into
this
matter
.
Th●
greatnesse
of
religious
men
is
of
th●
kinde
,
that
they
will
ever
esteem●
themselues
to
be
very
great
whe●
their
heads
are
at
the
feet
of
my
Lord●
the
Bishops
.
14.
A
certayne
great
Docto●
of
the
Sorbonne
,
a
deare
friend
〈◊〉
mine
,
and
a
man
esteemed
over
a●
France
for
his
pietie
and
learning
,
sai●
thus
to
me
one
day
at
Paris
with
th●
teares
,
after
a
sort
,
in
his
eyes
.
Ala●
to
what
passe
are
wee
now
arrived
〈…〉
France
is
full
of
Simoniacall
and
in●cestuous
persons
,
and
of
Libertin●
and
Atheists
,
and
yet
the
while
o●
might
thinke
that
men
dispute
of
nothing
but
of
precedences
,
of
powers
of
great
authority
,
and
of
castin●
religious
men
,
and
such
as
ser●
God
,
to
the
ground
.
And
all
th●
is
done
under
a
thousand
faire
app●rances
,
as
if
the
Church
of
God
depended
upon
knowing
who
shalbe●
the
most
great
,
the
most
absolute
,
and
●e
most
redoubted
;
whilest
yet
in
the
●eane
time
,
Christ
our
Lord
hath
●reached
the
direct
contrary
to
us
.
●ut
now
(
sayth
he
)
the
worst
is
,
that
●e
youngest
men
are
they
who
make
●ost
noyse
in
this
businesse
,
and
●ho
are
most
full
of
this
fervour
.
It
●reakes
my
heart
to
see
,
that
in
steed
〈◊〉
labouring
for
the
salvation
of
●ules
,
such
a
coyle
is
kept
for
the
●ory
of
bodies
,
and
for
any
little
●mbition
of
greatnesse
.
This
is
●hat
,
as
neere
as
I
can
remember
,
●hich
that
great
Personage
sayd
to
●e
,
who
is
yet
full
of
health
,
and
●ull
of
vertue
.
And
uppon
that
oc●asion
I
alleadged
this
reason
to
him
,
●hich
seemed
a
very
strong
one
:
that
〈◊〉
this
were
considerable
in
any
coun●ry
of
the
World
,
it
was
so
in
France
.
●ut
I
will
leaue
this
for
you
to
guesse
〈◊〉
,
if
it
please
you
,
I
will
only
tell
●ou
,
that
having
imparted
it
to
some
worthy
prelates
,
they
avowed
to
me●
that
it
was
most
true
.
As
for
that
which
concerneth●
Confession
,
and
the
rest
of
that
kind●
it
will
fall
more
naturally
into
th●
next
Chapter
.
And
to
ende
thi●
Discourse
,
and
to
leaue
your
mout●
with
a
good
relish
,
I
will
set
befor●
And
the
second
:
Quoniam
acerrimum
in
ipsos
bellum
illi
gerebant
,
atque
in
sidias
undique
ipsi
struebant
:
Nam
,
inquit
,
adversum
nos
pugnatis
,
ac
un
potius
adversum
eum
qui
a
nobis
praedicatur
?
Neque
enim
nos
ipsos
praedicamus
,
nam
ego
servus
sum
,
ego
eorum
etiam
qui
praedicationem
excipiunt
minister
,
operam
omnem
alteri
navans
〈…〉
que
ipsius
gloriae
causae
quiduis
facient
.
Ita
dum
mihi
bellum
infers
,
ea
qua
●illius
sunt
deijcis
.
And
a
little
after
.
Vides
nè
a●nimum
ab
omni
gloriae
studio
purum
:
●antum
abest
,
inquit
,
ut
eorum
quae
Domini
sunt
quicquam
vsurpemus
,
ac
●obis
arrogemus
,
ut
etiam
no
sipsos
prop●er
eum
subijciamus
.
THE
FOVRTH
REASON
.
That
Religious
men
forsake
the
Parishes
,
and
so
doe
wrong
to
the
Pastors
and
Parsons
,
and
Curates
of
Churches
,
and
consequently
to
Bishops
.
1.
ALL
those
former
streames
and
torrents
haue
flowed
out
of
this
source
,
and
all
●hose
claps
of
thunder
,
and
beames
of
lightning
haue
broken
out
of
this
Cloud
:
For
(
if
the
truth
may
be
spoken
)
they
are
some
of
the
Pastors
and
Parsons
and
Curates
,
who
haue
thundered
so
●ong
,
and
so
loud
,
that
at
length
they
haue
light
upon
some
of
my
Lords
the
Bishops
.
They
haue
brought
upon
the
board
before
them
,
the
abasement
of
Ecclesiasticall
powers
;
the
diminution
of
the
authority
of
Ordinaries
;
they
haue
cited
certayne
little
Canons
of
Provinciall
Conncels
;
they
haue
founded
forth
with
a
loud
voyce
,
this
word
of
Proprius
Sacerdos
;
they
haue
made
〈◊〉
mighty
Emphasis
uppon
this
other
word
,
agnoscere
vultum
pecoris
sui●
they
presse
hard
upon
the
successio●
to
the
72.
Disciples
,
whom
the●
represent
;
they
deplore
the
solitude
of
their
Parishes
,
and
of
their
high
Maisters
,
and
they
impure
it
to
Religious
men
,
who
draw
all
to
themselues
;
they
represent
to
the
World
how
miserably
the
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
is
defeated
,
and
they
alleadge
a
world
of
other
inconveniences
,
without
saying
any
one
word
touch●ng
their
owne
interest
.
And
according
to
this
,
wee
must
firmely
,
forsooth
,
beleeue
,
that
it
is
not
that
which
puts
them
on
;
but
the
interest
of
God
,
and
the
good
of
their
flocke
.
And
I
am
glad
it
is
so
,
for
if
I
were
●ncountred
by
their
interest
,
and
that
〈◊〉
were
to
fight
against
that
,
in
good
●arnest
I
would
lay
my
weapons
downe
,
for
that
(
as
is
delivered
by
a
man
of
a
gallant
wit
of
these
dayes
,
in
a
booke
which
is
currant
in
Paris
)
there
is
not
a
passage
in
Saint
Au●ustine
,
nor
an
argument
how
strong
●ever
it
may
be
,
which
is
strong
e●ough
against
fiue
hundred
Crownes
●f
good
revenew
by
the
yeare
.
2.
Supposing
therefore
that
it
is
●t
the
interest
of
God
,
and
the
●ood
of
the
Church
,
and
the
sal●ation
of
soules
,
which
thrusts
●em
on
:
I
will
hope
my
Lords
,
that
I
shall
the
more
easily
make
you
see
that
there
is
nothing
to
bee
feared
heerein
of
this
kinde
:
I
will
not
deny
but
that
the
comparison
betweene
them
and
the
Disciples
is
fit
,
and
that
very
holy
personages
haue
very
happily
made
it
good
.
I
will
say
moreover
,
that
if
it
please
you
,
wee
will
yet
do
more
then
they
demaund
;
and
wee
will
,
if
it
please
you
and
them
,
accord
also
that
they
are
the
second
Apostles
whom
God
sent
after
the
first
,
Saint
Paul
,
Saint
Barn●bas
,
and
Saint
Martiall
and
those
others
who
were
named
Apostles
by
Iesus
Christ
.
Wee
will
also
accord
to
th●
which
others
say
,
that
they
are
th●
Arch-angels
of
this
Hierarchy
,
and
you
the
Seraphins
.
I
will
hold
〈◊〉
selfe
to
this
.
As
much
honour
〈◊〉
pleaseth
you
,
yea
and
more
then
y●
desire
,
for
alas
,
wee
can
never
gi●
too
much
:
But
yet
when
men
wi●
presse
so
hard
upon
that
of
the
comparison
of
the
72.
Disciples
;
I
assure
you
my
Lords
,
that
the
good
Saint
Vincentius
,
doth
apply
it
so
naturally
to
Religious
men
of
his
Order
,
that
you
will
esteeme
it
to
square
better
with
them
,
then
with
you
,
or
at
least
as
well
.
3.
1.
Misit
eos
binos
&
binos
.
First
this
agreeth
better
to
Religious
men
,
who
goe
not
but
by
two
and
two
,
then
to
others
who
are
ever
alone
;
and
no
man
hath
,
or
ought
to
haue
any
more
then
his
cure
.
2.
Misit
eos
praedicare
.
Is
not
this
the
sacred
Profession
of
the
Fryers
3.
In
omnem
Ciuitatem
&
locum
,
See
how
this
fits
with
Religious
men
,
who
haue
the
whole
World
for
their
Cloyster
,
and
not
for
them
,
who
are
tyed
to
one
Parish
?
4.
Nolite
portare
sacculum
,
neque
peram
,
neque
pecuniam
in
zonis
,
&c.
This
makes
clearely
for
Religious
men
,
but
as
for
Pastors
and
Parsons
and
Curates
,
in
truth
it
can
hardly
be
applied
to
them
.
5.
Neque
baculum
,
neque
calceamenta
,
&c.
This
is
as
cleare
as
the
Sunne
.
6.
Curale
infirmos
,
&c.
It
is
working
miracles
whereof
hee
speakes
;
and
then
let
us
never
speake
more
of
this
.
7.
Ego
mitto
vos
sicut
oues
in
mediae
luporum
.
You
may
well
beleeue
,
that
men
seeke
not
greatly
after
such
Benefices
as
these
,
and
yet
in
the
meane
time
,
this
is
the
highest
ambition
of
holy
Religious
men
,
who
many
times
are
rather
Martyres
,
then
Confessors
.
In
fine
,
you
see
that
the
comparison
is
so
naturall
,
that
a
man
may
say
it
is
euen
made
of
purpose
for
religious
men
.
But
there
is
nothing
more
easie
then
for
good
witts
to
finde
out
comparisons
so
naturall
,
and
so
likely
,
that
more
cannot
bee
desired
.
So
that
indeede
to
relye
greatly
upon
this
course
either
way
,
is
to
build
upon
a
foundation
not
very
solid
.
And
at
the
very
most
(
as
S.
Thomas
saith
)
they
shal
be
the
first
Disciples
,
c.
4.
and
the
religious
shal
be
the
second
:
for
defacto
,
Christ
our
Lord
did
send
men
at
severall
times
,
the
second
after
the
first
.
4.
But
it
is
yet
worse
,
that
men
should
put
you
upon
an
impossibility
,
and
verily
with
ground
little
enough
,
by
alleadging
that
passage
which
men
chaunt
out
so
much
.
Diligentèr
Consitemini
Domino
quoniam
bonus
.
And
much
more
colour
Consitemini
alterutrum
peccata
vestra
.
But
all
this
is
worth
nothing
,
and
would
but
make
this
Divine
Sacrament
ridiculous
,
and
in
effect
of
no
use
at
all
.
5.
But
now
though
wee
put
the
case
,
that
this
passage
may
serue
for
this
purpose
,
yet
shall
it
bee
either
impossible
to
be
practised
,
or
in
effect
without
any
profit
at
all
.
For
Saint
Peter
is
a
Pastour
,
if
ever
there
were
any
in
the
world
,
and
Pope
,
and
the
Bishop
,
and
Parson
.
This
sheep
is
the
sonne
and
subject
of
the
Church
.
Let
us
not
speake
yet
of
the
Conscience
,
but
onely
of
the
Countenance
,
Cognosce
vultum
pecoris
tui
.
Is
there
any
Parson
or
Curate
in
Paris
,
who
knoweth
the
face
of
all
his
parishioners
which
are
daily
changed
.
Is
there
any
Bishop
that
presumes
to
say
that
he
knowes
the
face
of
all
who
are
in
his
Dioceses
?
(
For
that
the
Pope
should
know
all
Christians
,
is
a
most
ridiculous
thing
.
)
Cardinall
ellarmine
of
holy
memory
,
was
often
heard
to
say
to
the
most
illustrious
Cardinall
of
Roche-foveault
,
Monsignore
,
veramente
cisono
troppo
Christiani
al
mondo
.
I
assure
you
,
saith
he
,
that
I
am
opprest
with
resort
of
men
,
and
with
visites
;
and
I
must
needes
avow
to
you
,
that
mee
thinkes
there
are
to
many
Christians
in
the
world
.
For
what
meanes
can
a
man
haue
to
know
,
to
serue
,
and
to
content
them
all
?
And
yet
neverthelesse
this
man
was
no
more
then
an
Arch-bishop
,
and
did
but
speake
of
meere
visites
.
And
now
doe
but
imagine
whether
a
great
Arch-bishop
can
know
the
face
of
all
his
sheepe
,
and
yet
if
hee
could
,
to
what
would
that
serue
for
the
good
of
their
soules
?
If
now
you
will
take
these
wordes
,
to
know
the
face
of
your
sheepe
,
for
the
condition
and
state
of
the
heart
,
and
of
the
conscience
,
this
is
yet
far
worse
:
For
would
you
haue
the
Pope
confesse
all
the
Christians
in
the
World
,
or
the
Bishop
all
the
multitudes
of
his
people
,
or
the
Pastors
and
Curates
all
their
Parishoners
?
Though
they
had
a
hundred
heades
a
peece
,
they
were
not
able
to
doe
it
,
and
if
men
were
forced
to
undergoe
this
burthen
,
no
man
living
would
either
be
a
Parson
or
a
Bishop
,
or
a
Pope
.
6.
But
let
us
put
the
case
that
all
this
could
bee
done
,
for
what
yet
I
beseech
you
would
it
serue
?
For
that
which
a
man
knoweth
in
Confession
,
is
just
as
much
if
hee
knew
it
not
at
all
,
and
all
Lawes
and
rights
both
divine
and
humane
,
doe
forbid
the
Confessarius
to
violate
the
secret
of
Confession
.
And
Clement
the
8th
.
hath
expresly
forbidden
the
Superiours
of
Religious
men
to
take
the
Confessions
of
their
sheepe
or
subjects
;
and
that
yet
,
if
they
should
take
them
,
they
may
not
without
Sacriledge
serue
themselues
of
that
knowledge
which
grew
to
them
by
way
of
Confession
.
And
now
what
kinde
of
knowledge
is
that
which
serues
for
nothing
?
Would
the
Holy
Ghost
oblige
us
to
haue
such
a
knowledge
of
our
sheepe
as
whereof
it
should
forbid
us
to
make
any
use
at
all
:
And
who
would
ever
confesse
himselfe
to
you
,
if
hee
beleeved
that
you
would
ever
serue
your selfe
of
the
knowledg
of
what
hee
told
you
?
The
most
learned
Doctors
themselues
,
and
they
also
of
the
Sorbonne
,
teach
that
if
the
Penitent
did
assuredly
beleeue
that
his
Confessarius
would
reveale
his
Tho.
in
4.
d.
17.
q
:
3.
art.
3
:
major
.
ibid.
q.
5.
Confession
,
hee
should
not
be
obliged
to
confesse
to
him
;
for
what
then
would
this
precept
serue
of
knowing
the
face
of
the
Sheepe
?
And
I
aske
you
,
if
of
themselues
they
would
willingly
go
to
confesse
to
a
man
,
who
they
beleeved
would
serue
themselues
of
the
knowledge
of
their
sinnes
for
their
owne
turne
?
7.
What
then
is
the
meaning
of
these
words
to
know
their
sheepe
?
Is
it
to
ordayne
some
man
to
take
their
Confessions
by
and
under
your
authority
?
Even
in
conscience
doe
you
beleeue
that
this
is
to
know
?
In
some
Parish
of
Paris
there
bee
many
thousands
of
soules
,
and
more
then
a
hundred
men
who
wil
haue
beene
inabled
to
take
confessions
.
What
knowledge
will
the
Parson
or
Curate
haue
obtained
of
his
sheep
for
al
that
?
These
good
men
who
were
inabled
to
take
confessions
,
will
haue
spent
themselues
euen
to
death
with
labouring
in
it
the
whole
day
,
and
wil
haue
gotten
some
cruell
head-ache
by
it
,
will
not
remember
the
thousand
part
of
that
which
men
haue
confessed
to
them
,
and
for
what
then
will
it
serue
their
turne
,
and
what
knowledge
will
the
Parson
or
Vicar
draw
from
thence
?
will
they
goe
tell
him
what
hath
beene
Confessed
to
them
?
they
will
be
farre
from
any
such
thought
,
and
though
they
would
,
they
cannot
.
Besides
,
the
Penitent
is
not
bound
to
tell
his
name
,
nor
who
he
is
.
And
besides
,
if
he
should
declare
it
vntruly
,
Tho.
opus
.
15.
c.
4.
how
shall
he
be
conuinced
therein
?
If
hee
Confesse
himselfe
eight
dayes
before
,
and
doe
but
reconcile
himselfe
on
Easter
day
,
how
will
you
know
the
face
of
that
sheepe
?
If
hee
haue
no
mortall
sinne
in
his
soule
,
and
that
he
will
not
then
Confesse
himselfe
at
all
,
how
will
you
still
come
to
knowe
him
?
I
assure
you
that
when
I
found
the
bottome
of
this
businesse
,
I
find
reason
to
be
amazed
,
that
such
a
noyse
is
made
about
such
a
passage
;
and
which
signifieth
in
effect
nothing
lesse
then
that
which
is
giuen
out
.
8.
For
if
to
know
,
bee
to
depute
some
one
who
may
know
;
O
then
,
all
is
lost
for
them
.
For
if
the
Pope
,
and
if
the
Bishop
can
appoint
whom
hee
lists
for
that
purpose
as
well
or
better
then
the
Parson
or
Vicar
,
behold
then
the
gate
is
open
for
all
Religious
men
,
and
the
cause
is
gained
.
For
to
say
,
that
the
Parson
may
do
it
,
and
that
neither
the
Bishop
,
nor
the
Parson
of
Parsons
,
the
Father
of
Bishops
,
the
Vicar
of
Iesus
Christ
may
not
do
it
,
this
is
cleerely
against
common
sence
,
against
more
then
twenty
Popes
,
against
the
swift
current
of
the
Church
,
against
two
Generall
Councels
at
the
least
,
and
against
a
hundred
Doctors
of
great
reputation
.
And
when
a
man
should
say
that
the
Pastor
at
the
Communion
knoweth
the
face
of
his
sheepe
;
and
that
the
Canons
therefore
ordaine
,
that
they
onely
should
minister
the
Communion
to
them
,
and
that
they
do
thereby
sufficiently
comply
with
the
sayd
passage
,
Cognosce
vultum
,
Tho.
opus
.
15.
c.
4.
&c.
what
would
they
be
able
to
alledge
against
it
,
which
might
subsist
.
For
one
Doctor
whom
they
shall
produce
,
we
will
produce
twenty
,
and
it
is
well
enough
knowne
,
that
the
true
literall
sence
of
these
words
doth
import
no
more
,
but
that
Princes
should
bee
true
Pastors
of
their
people
;
or
house-keepers
of
their
family
,
and
domestickes
:
and
at
the
most
it
teacheth
them
,
that
the
way
to
make
a
family
great
,
is
to
haue
great
flockes
of
sheepe
,
which
is
the
most
harmelesse
meanes
of
growing
very
rich
,
and
that
very
soone
.
As
for
the
rest
,
they
are
but
morall
senses
,
and
good
wits
will
draw
forth
as
many
of
them
as
they
list
,
and
they
may
serue
for
the
instruction
of
mans
life
.
But
that
this
should
import
a
Commandement
touching
Confessions
,
and
Confessions
at
Easter
,
and
be
a
text
of
so
much
aduantage
for
Pastors
;
verily
that
I
may
not
say
any
thing
which
sauoureth
neuer
so
little
of
sharpenesse
,
it
doth
much
amaze
such
men
as
are
of
good
vnderstanding
,
and
voide
of
interest
.
9.
To
say
,
that
he
should
knowe
them
,
that
so
he
may
conduct
them
,
as
is
fit
,
this
indeede
were
to
be
wished
,
but
what
conduct
will
you
be
able
to
giue
a
man
,
who
may
come
to
you
in
a
presse
of
people
,
at
eleauen
of
the
clocke
vpon
Easter
day
in
the
morning
,
and
whom
afterward
you
shall
not
see
in
a
twelue
moneth
,
and
peraduenture
neuer
more
,
for
hee
may
change
his
parish
.
And
will
you
be
able
to
remember
at
the
ende
of
a
yeere
,
what
he
sayd
to
you
the
yeere
before
.
But
let
vs
here
make
a
stop
,
for
we
haue
walked
too
long
vpon
a
weake
planke
,
and
vpon
a
passage
which
deserueth
so
little
consideration
.
10.
The
great
passage
,
whereof
men
serue
themselues
,
is
the
Chanter
,
Omnis
uiriusque
sexus
,
of
Innocent
●he
the
third
,
in
the
Councell
of
Lateran
,
and
Prop●●●s
Saeceraos
,
and
the
Glosse
also
,
which
doth
expresly
say
,
that
a
man
must
confesse
himselfe
to
his
proper
Priest
,
or
must
haue
lea●e
of
him
to
do
otherwise
.
For
as
much
as
it
necessary
that
hee
confesse
himselfe
to
his
owne
Pastor
or
Vicar
,
at
the
least
at
Easter
,
or
else
that
we
ouerturne
all
Ecclesiasticall
Hierarchy
.
My
Lords
most
reuerend
and
most
illustrious
,
I
conjure
you
to
renew
here
your
attentions
,
and
your
good
affections
,
for
you
are
greatly
interessed
in
what
I
shall
say
.
As
soone
as
the
Parsons
or
Curates
should
haue
proued
(
if
they
were
able
)
that
this
is
not
to
be
vnderstood
of
the
Pope
,
●ust
so
soone
would
you
find
,
that
by
a
stronger
reason
,
they
would
maintaine
,
that
it
were
also
not
to
be
vnderstood
of
you
,
nor
should
it
be
permitted
to
you
any
longer
to
place
Paenitentiaries
in
the
Churches
of
all
11.
First
,
what
is
this
Glosse
,
and
who
is
the
Authour
thereof
?
It
is
Ioannes
Andraeas
a
Doctor
of
Bolonia
,
and
Doctor
Bernardus
Botonius
,
borne
at
Parma
,
and
a
Canon
of
Bolonia
,
who
glossed
the
Decretals
,
and
seemed
to
say
,
That
Regulars
cannot
heare
Confessions
without
licence
giuen
by
the
proper
Pastour
,
in
vertue
of
these
Priviledges
.
For
otherwise
they
should
bee
equall
to
Parsons
and
Vicars
.
Let
vs
see
their
very
words
vpon
the
Canon
,
Proprio
Sa●e
doti
;
sed
ecce
si
Praeditatores
&
fratres
Minores
,
vel
alij
Religiosi
,
non
habentes
populum
,
habent
Privilegium
vt
alienos
Parochianos
possint
recipere
ad
paenitentiam
,
nunquid
sufficit
Priuilegium
,
vt
Parochianum
alterius
possint
recipere
ad
paenitentiam
sine
licentia
proprij
Sacerdotis
?
Dicat
quod
non
;
privilegium
enim
aequiparat
eos
illis
,
qui
à
populo
sunt
electi
,
velillis
,
qui
ab
Episcopis
populo
praeficiuntur
,
&
dat
eis
solam
executionem
,
&
ita
necessaria
est
adhuc
licentia
Proprij
Sacerdotis
.
To
this
honest
man
of
Bolonia
,
who
yet
is
no
man
of
great
moment
,
and
to
this
reason
of
his
which
is
poore
enough
,
I
will
oppose
two
great
men
of
the
same
place
.
One
is
Gregory
the
thirteenth
,
and
the
other
the
Cardinall
Paleotta
,
Arch-bishop
of
Bolonia
,
whereof
the
one
by
most
expresse
Buls
,
the
other
by
the
practise
of
his
Dioces
,
haue
disauowed
this
Glosse
,
and
haue
shewed
,
that
men
ought
to
make
no
account
thereof
.
Whom
now
my
Lords
,
would
you
rather
beleeue
,
either
this
petty
Canon
,
or
else
the
Pope
and
the
Cardinall
,
who
were
both
of
them
Doctors
of
Bolonia
and
Oracles
of
the
Church
?
and
who
expresly
affirme
that
Proprius
Sacerdos
,
are
the
Pope
,
the
Bishop
,
and
the
Parson
also
.
But
now
take
heed
,
that
he
who
makes
the
Glosse
,
doe
not
specifie
that
the
Proper
Pastor
must
be
onely
the
Parson
or
Curate
,
but
that
hee
bee
kept
to
the
Generall
tearme
,
and
that
it
be
the
proper
Priest
who
giueth
this
leaue
.
And
who
hath
euer
doubted
hereof
.
And
who
hath
euer
beene
so
insolent
,
as
that
he
durst
presume
to
heare
Confessions
without
the
leaue
of
Popes
,
Councels
,
or
Bishops
?
But
if
on
the
other
side
,
men
haue
this
leaue
,
against
whom
doe
they
mount
this
Canon
,
and
this
Glosse
,
which
is
so
chanted
out
,
and
maketh
so
much
noyse
to
so
little
purpose
?
But
let
vs
put
the
case
,
that
this
Doctor
doth
vnderstand
the
Parson
,
or
Vicar
by
this
word
of
Propius
Sacerdos
.
Is
he
the
Oracle
of
the
world
,
and
is
the
opinion
then
of
one
simple
Doctor
,
an
article
of
faith
.
12.
Now
I
oppose
against
this
man
,
twenty
Popes
at
least
,
who
in
expresse
tearmes
haue
disavowed
this
Glosse
,
as
namely
Innocent
the
fourth
,
Alexander
the
fourth
,
Clement
the
fourth
,
Martin
the
fourth
,
Boniface
the
eight
,
Bennet
the
eleaventh
,
Clement
the
fifth
,
Iohn
the
twenty
two
,
Eugenius
the
fourth
,
Nicholas
the
fifth
,
Sixtus
the
fourth
,
Leo
the
10.
Paul
the
third
,
Paul
the
fourth
,
Gregorie
the
thirteenth
,
Sixtus
the
fifth
,
Clement
the
eight
,
Paul
the
fifth
,
Gregorie
the
fifteenth
.
And
now
under
Pope
Vrbanus
,
my
Lords
the
Cardinals
,
who
haue
beene
deputed
at
Rome
for
these
affaires
.
For
all
these
in
expresse
,
precise
,
and
formall
tearmes
shewe
the
direct
contrary
,
as
may
bee
seene
by
their
severall
Buls
.
I
oppose
also
amongst
others
,
two
generall
Councels
,
that
of
Vienna
in
the
yeare
of
our
Lord
1311.
where
Phillip
the
Fayre
,
King
of
France
,
did
assist
to
honour
it
with
his
presence
,
and
liked
well
of
that
which
was
there
agreed
;
and
that
also
of
Lateran
,
where
the
Popes
,
Clement
the
fifth
,
and
Leo
the
10.
made
expresse
Bulls
to
declare
the
contrary
,
and
that
the
Mendicant
Priests
who
were
Religious
,
and
should
be
aurhorized
by
the
Pope
,
might
absolutely
heare
Confessions
,
preserving
ever
charity
,
the
authority
of
the
ordinaries
,
and
not
diminishing
at
all
their
authority
.
And
the
same
also
doth
the
Councell
of
Trent
affirme
.
Moreover
I
oppose
at
least
fifty
Doctors
,
greatly
learned
,
and
many
of
them
canonized
Saints
,
who
doe
clearely
hold
the
contrary
;
and
shewe
that
the
Canon
,
Omnis
vtriusque
,
cannot
any
way
hinder
Priviledged
persons
from
hearing
Confessions
,
without
wrong
to
any
.
I
oppose
besides
the
consent
of
the
whole
World
;
for
the
generall
practise
of
the
Church
hath
beene
such
,
as
I
haue
said
,
in
Italy
,
France
,
Germany
,
Polonia
,
England
,
Spaine
,
Flanders
,
in
the
East
,
in
the
West
,
in
the
South
,
and
in
the
North
,
in
the
old
and
in
the
new
World
,
and
this
without
contradiction
of
others
,
then
some
very
few
persons
,
who
haue
alwayes
beene
condemned
.
I
oppose
yet
further
the
authority
of
our
Kings
,
and
of
the
Soveraigne
Courts
of
Iustice
of
the
Realme
,
who
haue
received
Regulars
,
and
haue
beene
pleased
that
they
should
enjoy
their
priviledges
,
and
haue
maintayned
them
therein
;
and
haue
served
themselues
of
them
,
and
with
good
successe
.
And
one
of
our
good
and
vertuous
French-men
,
and
a
L.
de
Monarch.
3.
p.
l.
2.
c.
14.
Ep.
150.
learned
Doctor
of
the
Sorbon
,
hath
greatly
praysed
this
passage
of
Petrus
Blesensis
,
Tunc
salubriter
disponitur
vita
Regum
,
cum
Religiosorum
hortamenta
sectantur
,
&
ducuntur
consilio
Sapientium
.
And
in
effect
all
Kings
,
and
aboue
them
all
,
our
owne
,
who
are
the
very
Sonnes
of
Kings
,
and
the
Flower
de
Luces
of
the
World
,
haue
proceeded
thus
.
I
oppose
withall
the
judgement
of
many
wise
,
learned
,
and
most
vertuous
Parsons
and
Vicars
,
who
themselues
haue
exhorted
their
Parishoners
to
confesse
themselues
to
good
Regulars
,
where
they
beleeue
,
that
they
may
bee
better
assisted
for
the
salvation
of
their
soules
.
For
every
one
of
them
sayth
,
and
sayth
truely
,
what
doth
this
import
me
,
so
that
my
flocke
be
saved
?
for
my
part
I
am
so
much
the
more
discharged
,
who
haue
,
God
helpe
me
,
other
worke
enough
to
doe
.
May
not
I
be
secure
in
point
of
conscience
,
since
the
Pope
,
the
Councells
,
so
many
Doctors
,
so
many
Saints
assure
me
that
I
am
discharged
?
Besides
that
I
obserue
that
the
best
Parishoners
,
and
they
who
frequent
my
parish
most
,
and
who
honour
mee
the
most
,
are
they
who
haue
their
soules
best
cultivated
with
vertue
;
and
make
most
account
of
devotion
.
Provided
that
I
know
they
be
well
Confessed
,
this
ought
to
serue
my
turne
.
Besides
a
great
scruple
which
I
haue
uppon
my
soule
,
is
the
feare
I
am
in
,
lest
they
whose
Confessions
I
apply
my selfe
to
heare
,
may
perhaps
not
worthily
acquit
themselues
,
and
the
fault
thereof
fall
uppon
mee
,
and
now
I
am
delivered
of
this
remorse
when
they
goe
to
a
place
,
where
morrally
I
ought
to
bee
assured
that
I
am
discharged
in
the
sight
of
God
.
Must
then
such
a
noyse
be
made
for
a
little
interest
,
or
for
a
little
ayre
of
honor
,
and
for
a
certaine
,
I
know
not
what
,
which
is
not
worth
the
speaking
of
?
Now
I
haue
heard
this
very
language
spoken
in
Paris
it selfe
,
and
that
by
the
principall
Parsons
and
Vicars
of
the
Towne
,
men
of
vertue
and
honour
,
and
who
haue
a
very
great
care
of
the
true
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
,
and
to
saue
their
sheepe
,
and
to
performe
their
Office
exactly
well
.
What
shall
I
say
to
you
of
that
noble
Chancellour
of
the
Vniversity
of
Paris
?
Though
formerly
hee
had
beene
a
little
too
stiffe
and
warme
in
the
businesse
,
yet
he
advised
himselfe
better
afterwards
,
and
sayd
,
Status
Curatorum
debet
cum
bona
de
statib
.
Ecclesiastici
c.
3.
de
statu
curatorum
considerat
.
7.
gratia
suscipere
statum
Privilegiatorum
,
tanquam
co-adjutores
missos
à
Superioribus
,
&c.
Yea
,
and
when
he
is
at
the
top
of
his
zeale
for
the
Parsons
and
Vicars
,
he
doth
very
judiciously
adde
,
Salva
sempter
rationabili
authoritate
Praelatorum
.
So
that
we
must
either
condemne
Popes
and
Kings
,
and
so
many
holy
Bishops
for
having
shewed
little
judgement
,
and
having
had
little
reason
in
giving
the
power
which
they
haue
giuen
to
Religious
men
,
or
else
,
sayth
Gerson
,
the
Parsons
and
Vicars
haue
beene
much
to
blame
in
opposing
themselues
to
them
,
who
haue
bin
so
well
,
so
justifiably
,
and
so
anciently
authorized
and
maintained
in
their
priviledges
.
Finally
,
I
oppose
the
Parliament
of
Paris
,
which
is
the
Parliament
of
Peeres
,
and
the
paragon
of
parliaments
,
which
hath
made
two
solemne
decrees
among
the
rest
,
the
one
in
fauour
of
the
Iacobins
,
in
the
yeare
of
our
Lord
1505.
and
in
the
behalfe
of
one
who
was
called
Gally
,
and
the
other
in
fauour
of
the
Cordeliers
,
in
the
yeare
1531.
and
it
went
against
a
Councellor
of
the
parliament
it selfe
,
called
Lovys
du
Bellay
,
parson
and
Arch-priest
of
Saint
Severine
,
and
Arch-deacon
of
Paris
,
who
pretended
to
make
Religious
men
be
hindered
from
hearing
Confessions
,
and
was
directly
rejected
from
his
demaund
,
and
Religious
men
maintayned
in
the
use
of
their
priviledges
.
This
sufficeth
,
and
I
wil
say
nothing
of
other
parliaments
,
which
are
wont
to
honour
the
Decrees
of
the
parliament
of
Paris
,
and
not
to
contest
them
.
13.
So
that
you
see
worlds
,
Popes
,
Councels
,
Kings
,
Prelates
,
the
Prouinciall
Synods
of
Langres
,
1452.
of
Paris
1557.
of
Aix
1585.
of
Chartres
1526.
of
Roan
1581.
of
Troyes
and
others
,
as
that
of
Bordeaux
1582.
of
Bourges
,
1584.
and
before
all
this
,
of
Angers
1291.
You
see
the
decrees
of
Parliaments
,
the
possession
of
fiue
hundreth
yeares
,
the
vniuersall
custome
,
Buls
,
Decrees
,
Sentences
,
Histories
,
Condemnations
of
Contradictors
,
a
whole
troupe
of
Authors
,
the
most
wise
Pastors
and
Vicars
themselues
,
the
common
Dictamen
of
the
Church
,
the
incredible
good
which
arriueth
by
it
,
you
see
,
I
say
,
all
this
in
fauour
of
Regulars
on
the
one
side
,
and
on
the
other
a
petty
Canon
of
Bolonia
,
who
in
fine
is
not
indeede
contrary
to
vs
,
though
he
be
so
in
apparance
.
14.
Rendring
therefore
to
my
Lords
the
Prelates
that
which
their
quality
deserues
,
and
their
vertues
require
,
that
which
the
Councell
of
Trent
ordaynes
,
that
which
use
,
right
and
custome
haue
made
to
passe
in
the
nature
of
a
Law
,
and
honoring
parsons
and
Curates
,
and
loving
them
with
particular
affection
,
and
withall
exhorting
all
devout
men
to
doe
honour
to
their
parsons
or
Curates
,
to
frequent
their
parishes
,
to
pay
in
all
their
rights
,
and
yet
notwithstanding
hauing
those
so
authentical
priviledges
in
their
hands
and
the
possession
of
so
many
yeares
;
why
doe
men
complaine
so
much
of
poore
Religious
men
,
who
very
often
reape
no
other
thing
but
much
paine
and
travaile
?
Oh
,
no
man
knoweth
what
it
is
to
be
a
good
Confessarius
,
but
such
a
man
as
is
in
a
very
ordinary
exercise
thereof
:
Alas
,
what
a
huge
patience
is
needfull
,
what
kinde
of
longanimity
,
what
a
condiscending
,
what
a
company
of
repetitions
must
bee
endured
,
how
many
uncleannesses
,
what
hazards
,
what
a
company
of
ill
houres
?
Is
there
perhaps
so
great
pleasure
in
feeding
uppon
nothing
but
the
sinnes
of
the
people
,
and
with
Saint
Peter
to
devoure
Dragons
,
Vipers
,
and
a
million
of
bruite
beasts
,
full
of
venoime
?
I
doe
rather
thinke
that
men
should
haue
pitty
of
such
poore
men
,
then
enuy
,
and
giue
thankes
to
these
poore
Martyres
and
Confessours
for
their
paines
they
suffer
,
rather
then
to
arraigne
them
thus
,
and
make
warre
upon
them
.
Some
of
my
Lords
the
prelates
,
haue
themselues
beene
willing
to
heare
Confessions
,
and
they
haue
done
it
with
great
edification
,
but
wee
haue
knowne
of
very
few
,
who
haue
long
continued
in
that
course
;
so
tough
,
so
dangerous
,
and
so
greatly
wearisome
is
that
businesse
.
15.
As
for
us
,
if
wee
were
to
take
our
turne
in
pleading
,
certainely
I
would
cite
no
other
Canon
then
that
of
Omnis
vtriusque
sexus
,
with
the
Glosse
of
one
of
our
Synodes
of
France
.
The
Text
sayth
that
a
man
must
confesse
himselfe
to
his
Proper
Priest
,
or
else
haue
his
leaue
to
Confesse
himselfe
to
another
.
Now
,
who
is
this
Proper
Priest
,
who
may
giue
the
leaue
?
Let
us
heare
the
Synode
of
Langres
in
the
yeare
of
our
Lord
1421.
Ne
remaneat
aliqua
haestitatio
,
quis
proprius
dicatur
Sacerdos
,
declaramus
prout
etiam
jura
&
doctores
declarant
,
quod
Proprius
Sacerdos
est
Papa
,
ejus
Legatus
,
Paenitentiarius
,
Diocesanus
,
&
Vicarius
Generalis
;
&
ille
cui
cura
suae
Parochialis
Ecclesiae
est
commissa
.
After
this
I
beseech
you
what
can
more
be
sayd
?
16.
There
resteth
onely
now
this
complaint
,
that
parishes
are
forsaken
,
and
that
consequently
Priests
studie
not
;
that
men
goe
not
to
their
Sermons
;
that
for
spite
they
leaue
all
;
that
Religious
men
deuoure
all
,
and
that
their
Churches
swell
with
people
,
whilest
parishes
are
forsaken
to
the
great
contempt
of
the
Hierarchy
of
the
Church
.
That
now
few
are
found
who
will
bee
parsons
or
Vicars
,
especially
in
Villages
;
and
therefore
Bishops
grow
to
finde
much
difficulty
in
furnishing
their
Dioceses
;
by
meanes
whereof
all
goes
to
ruine
,
and
soules
are
damned
,
and
yet
Bishops
in
the
meane
time
are
as
much
obliged
in
the
sight
of
God
to
haue
care
of
their
Dioceses
;
as
the
Pope
hath
of
his
,
and
of
the
Vniversall
Church
.
Besides
,
that
Priests
finding
themselues
not
to
bee
imployed
,
and
that
persons
of
quality
goe
to
Confesse
themselues
elsewhere
,
and
that
men
make
no
great
account
of
their
Sermons
,
they
spend
not
their
time
in
studie
;
and
not
studing
,
they
giue
themselues
to
idlenesse
,
and
from
idlenesse
growes
the
rest
,
in
such
sort
,
that
Regulars
are
the
cause
of
these
mischiefes
,
and
that
secular
priests
grow
to
bee
irregular
,
and
it
belongeth
to
Bishops
to
redresse
these
things
,
who
groane
in
the
meane
time
under
this
burthen
,
and
know
not
how
to
apply
good
and
effectuall
remedies
.
17.
Behold
here
great
store
of
crimes
hudled
vp
one
vpon
another
,
and
behold
a
grieuous
mortall
sinne
,
whereof
(
by
mischance
)
the
Regulars
meane
not
to
confesse
themselues
to
be
guilty
.
And
the
reason
is
,
because
they
knowe
it
not
,
and
they
found
themselues
vpon
this
,
that
non
entis
proprié
non
est
scientia
.
And
they
make
good
that
they
are
not
the
cause
of
these
mischiefes
in
the
strength
of
these
maximes
of
Lawe
,
which
is
receiued
throughout
the
whole
world
.
Qui
vtitur
iure
suo
,
nemini
facit
iniuriam
.
For
what
?
shall
it
not
be
lawfull
for
me
to
doe
well
,
for
feare
least
others
do
ill
for
spight
?
What
will
you
say
if
God
haue
sent
Religious
men
into
the
world
,
as
Renatus
Benedictus
said
,
to
awake
them
of
the
Church
,
who
were
sleeping
?
And
certainely
these
are
the
motiues
which
Popes
assigne
in
their
Buls
of
priuiledges
,
and
which
deserue
to
be
read
and
well
weighed
,
with
a
mind
full
of
respect
and
piety
.
God
himselfe
discouered
this
to
Pope
Innocent
the
third
,
when
he
shewed
him
the
Church
,
as
if
it
had
bene
falling
to
the
ground
,
and
Saint
Dominicke
,
and
Saint
Francis
,
who
shouldred
it
vp
so
happily
,
that
they
kept
it
on
foote
,
and
restored
it
to
the
former
place
.
But
let
vs
passe
from
this
discourse
,
which
yet
neuerthelesse
is
not
impertinent
.
For
considering
the
incredible
good
which
God
hath
vouchsafed
to
worke
by
meanes
of
Regulars
ouer
the
whole
world
,
wee
haue
reason
to
praise
his
infinite
goodnesse
,
to
render
him
all
glory
for
it
,
and
to
hope
that
they
may
yet
be
able
to
serue
him
in
the
assistance
of
many
soules
.
18.
O
how
I
loue
that
good
and
gallant
Parson
in
Paris
,
whom
all
you
my
Lords
do
also
loue
,
and
verily
he
deserues
it
,
who
sayd
thus
after
an
Apostolicall
manner
,
and
with
a
generous
heart
.
Let
vs
do
better
then
Religious
men
,
and
beleeue
me
the
Religious
men
will
be
more
affraid
of
vs
,
then
we
of
them
.
The
world
followeth
vertue
,
or
the
opinion
of
vertue
,
or
both
together
:
that
which
we
should
doe
,
Religious
men
striue
to
doe
,
but
let
vs
striue
to
do
that
which
they
do
,
and
their
Houses
will
be
more
forsaken
then
ours
.
Let
vs
adorne
our
Churches
as
they
do
,
let
vs
make
learned
and
deuoute
Sermons
which
may
greatly
edifie
our
people
,
let
vs
liue
as
we
speake
,
let
vs
cultiuate
the
soules
of
our
Parishioners
,
let
vs
make
choice
of
Priests
of
good
liues
,
let
all
go
orderly
in
our
Churches
,
let
vs
lay
all
our
interests
at
the
feete
of
the
Crucifixe
,
and
this
will
be
the
most
powerfull
meanes
to
defend
vs
,
and
to
mainetaine
vs
in
our
rights
,
and
to
haue
cause
to
feare
nothing
.
But
otherwise
to
make
such
a
noyse
,
and
to
doe
nothing
,
but
cry
out
without
ceasing
,
and
to
tosse
Excommunications
vp
and
downe
,
and
to
be
sending
threats
,
all
this
makes
for
nothing
but
discourse
without
producing
any
fruit
,
and
mens
minds
are
so
made
,
that
by
this
meanes
they
rather
growe
wild
,
then
soft
and
sweete
,
and
restored
to
the
way
of
the
antient
piety
of
France
.
In
fine
,
this
man
liueth
after
this
manner
,
and
not
onely
he
,
but
some
others
also
,
who
are
adored
in
their
parishes
;
and
all
men
do
so
loue
them
,
and
they
are
so
desired
,
and
euen
as
it
were
opprest
with
businesse
,
that
men
cannot
see
them
,
but
with
halfe
an
eye
.
And
as
for
those
others
who
are
euer
crying
out
,
they
breede
more
feare
then
enuy
in
such
as
would
drawe
neere
to
them
;
and
they
estrange
their
parishioners
from
them
,
who
beleeue
that
there
is
some
other
thing
in
the
businesse
then
the
pure
loue
of
God
,
the
saluation
of
soules
,
and
the
preseruation
of
the
Hierarchy
.
I
beseech
God
to
preserue
this
most
vertuous
Pastor
,
and
bestow
vpon
him
a
great
heape
of
benedictions
,
and
grant
that
all
the
rest
may
walke
the
same
pace
,
and
doe
so
much
good
,
that
Regulars
may
haue
no
more
to
doe
.
O
,
in
how
great
repose
,
and
with
how
ioyfull
a
heart
would
they
pray
God
,
for
so
many
and
so
worthy
labourers
?
19.
Let
vs
come
to
that
other
exception
,
that
Benefices
remaine
voyde
,
and
that
now
in
effect
men
doe
finde
no
persons
capable
to
fill
them
with
,
especially
in
countrey
townes
and
villages
.
Now
here
I
must
cleerely
auow
either
my
simplicity
,
or
my
too
great
credulity
.
For
in
very
truth
I
was
of
opinion
,
that
there
had
not
beene
halfe
a
Benefice
which
enow
had
not
extreamle
desired
to
get
,
and
to
heape
one
vpon
another
,
and
that
not
being
able
to
procure
them
by
any
other
meanes
,
men
buy
them
out
right
with
ready
money
;
and
that
they
vse
a
thousand
trickes
to
serue
one
anothers
turnes
;
and
that
Simony
was
neuer
so
refined
,
nor
lesse
apprehended
to
be
ill
,
and
all
the
rest
of
that
which
common
fame
is
spreading
in
all
companies
.
Verily
I
beleeued
all
this
,
and
I
confesse
I
did
it
as
a
thing
most
certaine
,
and
without
all
doubt
.
But
,
my
Lords
,
since
you
haue
told
me
the
contrary
(
for
you
haue
sayd
it
)
I
will
resolutely
giue
my
minde
this
law
,
and
I
will
make
it
stoope
to
this
yoake
,
that
I
will
beleeue
you
without
contradiction
.
But
,
my
Lords
,
you
will
pardon
me
if
still
I
tell
you
,
that
although
I
beleeue
the
thing
,
yet
I
cannot
force
my
heart
to
beleeue
the
cause
which
is
alledged
;
namely
,
that
Regulars
are
the
cause
thereof
.
For
how
can
this
be
?
Is
it
because
they
get
their
Benefices
?
let
them
haue
no
more
of
them
.
Is
it
that
they
diuert
Secular
Priests
from
taking
those
Benefices
?
excommunicate
them
.
Is
it
that
they
carry
away
all
the
stations
or
Indulgences
?
They
haue
none
but
such
as
please
you
,
and
oftentimes
they
haue
but
the
refuse
of
others
.
Is
it
because
they
debaush
secular
Priests
make
them
bee
punished
by
their
superiors
;
and
if
they
will
not
,
doe
it
you
.
Is
it
because
they
doe
not
Counsell
them
to
studie
?
Alas
,
some
times
they
say
that
the
Iesuites
make
too
many
men
learned
,
and
too
full
of
knowledge
;
and
sometimes
the
direct
contrary
.
Good
God
,
whom
shall
wee
beleeue
?
If
I
feared
not
to
offend
some
,
and
if
I
had
not
promised
that
I
would
not
anger
any
,
I
would
acquaint
you
very
clearely
with
the
true
source
of
all
these
miseries
,
but
I
had
rather
leaue
it
to
your
thought
;
and
I
will
impose
perfect
silence
uppon
my selfe
,
saving
onely
in
this
that
I
declare
to
you
clearely
with
a
strong
voyce
,
and
with
much
truth
,
that
it
is
not
good
Religious
men
,
who
are
the
cause
of
these
disorders
.
20.
So
farre
of
it
is
,
that
Regulars
should
bee
the
cause
,
that
a
hundred
Bishops
will
tell
you
on
the
other
side
,
when
there
hath
beene
some
disorder
in
Bourgs
and
Villages
,
they
haue
served
themselues
of
Regulars
,
to
put
things
in
Order
as
before
,
and
the
successe
hath
proved
,
that
the
choyce
was
good
.
This
is
so
cleare
,
that
it
needes
no
proofe
.
Whether
this
trouble
the
Order
of
the
Church
,
whether
it
bee
against
the
authority
of
Prelates
,
or
against
the
right
of
Pastours
,
or
against
reason
,
I
make
the
most
reverend
Charles
the
Bishop
of
Langres
,
the
Iudge
;
who
in
his
Synode
,
after
hee
had
commaunded
the
publication
of
that
Canon
,
Omnis
vtriusque
,
sayth
these
very
words
.
Nè
detur
materia
fratribus
Mendicantibus
querelandi
,
volumus
quod
in
fine
publicationis
constitutionis
praedictae
,
Omnis
vtriusque
sexus
,
&c.
subinferatur
,
&
publice
,
quod
per
hoc
non
intendimus
praejudicare
Privilegijs
super
audiendis
Confessionibus
,
eisdem
fratribus
concessis
:
subjungendo
quod
fratres
nobis
praesentati
possunt
audire
Confessiones
libere
,
&
confitentibus
eisdem
,
paenitentias
salutares
impartiri
de
commissis
,
&c.
All
that
which
he
demaundeth
is
,
that
men
doe
it
vnder
his
authority
,
and
this
is
done
,
and
it
is
more
then
most
reasonable
that
it
should
be
so
.
But
in
the
meane
time
you
see
that
it
is
he
who
is
called
the
Proper
Priest
,
he
who
sendeth
whom
he
will
,
and
who
serueth
himselfe
of
good
Religious
men
,
for
the
helpe
of
parishes
.
And
doe
you
not
beleeue
that
other
Bishops
haue
the
same
Dictamen
with
this
great
Peere
of
France
,
and
Bishop
of
Langres
,
who
held
this
language
?
21.
Let
vs
adde
to
this
,
that
if
euer
there
were
little
cause
of
complaining
vpon
this
title
,
it
is
in
this
age
of
ours
.
No
,
my
Lords
,
doe
not
any
longer
feare
that
now
Secular
Priests
will
not
proue
such
as
you
desire
,
or
that
parsonages
will
be
in
want
of
men
very
well
able
to
serue
the
Cures
,
or
for
the
seruice
also
of
other
Benefices
.
For
the
fatherly
prouidence
of
God
hath
sent
a
new
Renforce
,
by
a
most
vertuous
congregation
of
holy
Priests
,
who
beeing
full
of
knowledge
and
piety
,
will
supply
all
these
wants
,
according
to
the
vocation
which
God
hath
giuen
them
,
to
reforme
secular
Clergy
.
By
the
example
of
their
liues
they
will
shew
what
is
to
bee
done
,
by
their
endeauours
they
will
fill
such
places
as
shal
bee
voyde
,
both
in
City
and
Countrey
,
and
they
will
yeeld
good
labourers
will
refuse
to
take
no
paines
,
and
will
gladly
spread
their
Charity
ouer
the
whole
World
,
as
they
haue
alreadie
begunne
to
doe
in
many
places
,
and
will
also
by
little
and
little
grow
substituting
excellent
Ecclesiasticall
men
,
to
make
this
Church
of
France
flourish
both
in
Villages
and
Townes
.
One
onely
thing
I
feare
,
that
after
men
shall
haue
cryed
hard
against
Religious
men
,
they
will
also
beginne
to
cry
out
against
these
,
every
one
interpreting
their
zeale
according
to
his
owne
fancy
;
and
banding
themselues
perhaps
as
stiffely
against
them
,
as
against
Religious
,
and
alleadging
a
thousand
things
according
to
their
passions
and
humours
.
Now
if
this
should
happen
,
you
would
clearely
discerne
even
from
that
instant
,
that
the
noyse
which
is
made
both
against
the
one
,
and
against
the
other
,
proceedes
from
some
other
roote
then
of
meere
charity
,
and
of
a
true
desire
of
the
good
of
the
true
Hierarchy
.
To
tell
you
more
of
this
would
serue
for
nothing
to
my
purpose
,
onely
I
will
say
franckly
,
that
there
will
neuer
be
good
labourers
enow
;
that
there
is
more
worke
cut
out
,
then
we
shall
be
able
to
sow
,
and
that
the
heart
of
a
Bishop
,
which
ought
to
be
a
heart
paternall
and
Apostolicall
,
ought
to
imbrace
all
them
who
may
serue
to
cultiuate
the
faire
field
of
the
Church
of
God
.
22.
There
is
escaping
from
my
hand
(
and
I
know
not
how
to
keepe
it
backe
)
a
passage
,
which
seemeth
pardonable
to
a
man
,
who
defendeth
so
good
a
cause
.
Aristotle
saith
,
that
,
Ex
quibus
constamus
,
ex
ijs
nutrimur
,
&
conseruamur
in
esse
.
This
being
so
,
my
Lords
,
it
is
still
to
be
considered
,
that
Regulars
haue
not
lost
their
time
,
nor
done
any
great
wrong
to
them
,
who
haue
done
them
the
honour
to
imploy
them
;
and
that
indeed
they
are
not
yet
to
be
cast
out
of
the
way
.
Certainly
it
hath
pleased
the
infinite
goodnesse
of
God
,
to
serue
himselfe
of
them
either
for
plantation
of
our
faith
,
or
else
of
pitty
in
an
eminent
degree
;
and
that
in
a
manner
,
ouer
the
whole
world
.
Is
it
not
true
,
that
it
was
Saint
Bernard
who
made
Campayne
flourish
?
St.
Columbanus
,
Burgundy
?
St.
Martin
,
Tourayne
?
Saint
Anselme
,
Normandy
?
Saint
Dominicke
,
Languedoc
,
and
Guyenne
?
Saint
Vincent
,
Britany
?
Saint
Thomas
and
Saint
Bonauenture
,
the
King
Saint
Lewes
and
Fraunce
?
Saint
Augustine
the
Monke
,
all
England
?
And
now
in
our
dayes
is
it
not
they
,
who
haue
planted
the
Crosse
of
Iesus
Christ
in
all
those
new
worlds
,
and
who
are
planting
it
now
whilest
I
am
speaking
,
in
the
heart
of
Aethiopia
,
in
Persia
,
in
the
East
,
and
throughout
the
foure
Winds
of
the
world
.
May
they
not
well
be
thought
to
helpe
towards
the
entertaining
of
the
Church
,
since
they
haue
sweate
bloud
and
water
to
plant
it
,
and
are
bedewing
it
with
their
teares
,
and
with
their
blood
,
and
sealing
it
with
their
heads
and
liues
?
For
a
little
I
know
not
what
,
must
the
occasion
alas
,
be
lost
of
drawing
so
many
exemplar
seruices
out
of
their
labours
?
vnder
colour
of
some
little
indiscretion
of
any
single
man
,
who
may
be
transported
by
his
zeale
.
That
amendment
which
might
be
desired
,
can
it
not
possibly
be
procured
without
such
a
deale
of
businesse
,
and
confused
noise
?
O
my
God
,
there
are
so
many
abhominations
in
the
world
,
vpon
which
we
daily
looke
,
and
yet
men
open
not
their
mouthes
,
and
hardly
thinke
that
it
concernes
them
at
all
,
and
now
it
seemes
that
all
consisteth
in
dragging
Religious
men
after
them
,
as
if
that
being
once
done
,
we
were
instantly
to
see
vertue
ride
in
Tryumph
.
I
would
to
Christ
there
were
no
impediment
but
that
,
and
〈◊〉
would
to
Christ
that
all
this
did
●urne
vpon
no
other
thing
,
but
that
●f
the
pure
zeale
of
the
seruice
of
God
.
If
euery
one
might
make
his
owne
complaints
,
good
God
,
what
a
terrible
discourse
would
grow
vpon
it
,
but
let
not
the
Diuine
Maiesty
be
pleased
,
that
so
great
a
misfortune
should
ariue
.
It
is
better
to
hold
ones
peace
,
and
to
labour
in
silence
and
humility
.
Bona
facere
,
&
mala
pati
Apostolicum
est
,
sayd
the
great
Saint
Bernard
.
23.
That
,
my
Lords
,
which
is
to
bee
much
weighed
is
,
that
by
this
course
they
are
not
the
Regulars
whom
men
assault
,
but
the
Priviledges
themselues
,
and
the
Popes
who
gaue
them
,
and
the
authority
of
the
See
Apostolicke
;
for
all
this
is
but
a
leuell
at
the
same
aime
,
and
Generall
Councells
,
and
Canonized
Saints
,
and
the
doctrine
of
the
Church
received
by
the
whole
world
,
and
practised
through
so
many
ages
,
and
iudged
by
so
many
sentences
.
And
all
this
must
be
done
for
〈…〉
point
of
honour
,
or
of
power
,
and
in
a
businesse
,
which
so
many
great
Cardinals
full
of
wisedome
,
and
so
many
holy
and
venerable
old
men
,
who
were
growne
gray
in
the
Gouernement
of
the
Church
,
would
neuer
alter
.
I
find
that
my
most
illustrious
and
most
reuerend
Lord
,
the
Cardinall
of
Rochfaucault
,
who
is
of
so
delicate
a
conscience
,
so
graue
in
his
iudgements
,
and
of
so
exemplar
a
life
,
did
say
very
well
when
he
sayd
.
I
care
not
what
habit
men
weare
,
but
I
euer
take
the
best
.
As
long
as
Religious
men
serue
to
good
purpose
I
do
willingly
serue
my selfe
of
them
;
when
they
forget
themselues
,
I
will
also
forget
them
.
When
Doctors
and
Seculars
,
and
Pastors
do
well
,
I
will
loue
them
,
and
shall
be
glad
to
employ
them
.
In
fine
,
when
a
man
is
to
make
his
choyce
,
he
must
euer
take
the
best
,
whatsoeuer
habite
he
weare
.
Behold
this
is
a
saying
worthy
of
him
.
24.
I
would
to
God
that
he
with
any
other
,
who
resembled
him
,
were
arbitrator
of
this
cause
in
difference
,
to
calme
this
Tempest
,
and
to
appease
all
things
with
the
spirite
of
〈◊〉
.
For
there
is
good
meanes
for
it
,
when
that
which
may
be
sayd
on
both
sides
,
may
bee
heard
:
allowing
to
my
Lords
the
Prelates
,
more
honour
then
euer
themselues
desire
,
as
also
to
the
Pastors
of
particular
Churches
,
and
leauing
also
Religious
men
in
liberty
to
enioy
their
right
in
repose
,
and
with
respect
and
honor
.
These
words
of
Abraham
cast
themselues
into
my
mouth
,
Facta
est
rixa
inter
pastores
The
sweet
dewes
of
Indulgences
,
the
Easterne
winds
of
Missions
,
and
the
powers
of
commanding
and
sending
hither
and
thether
,
ought
to
issue
out
of
your
mouthes
:
all
the
sweetenesses
of
heauen
passe
by
your
hands
,
iust
as
the
fauours
of
nature
beginne
from
the
East
.
Be
you
therefore
the
Orients
of
the
world
,
according
to
the
stile
of
Origen
.
Estote
filij
Orientis
,
ecce
vir
oriens
nomen
eius
,
dabo
Reg.
9.
erunt
optima
quaeque
,
&c.
All
this
is
done
to
you
.
25.
Religious
men
,
whom
you
honour
with
the
name
of
Brothers
,
but
who
yet
are
in
effect
your
sonnes
,
and
your
seruants
,
will
place
themselues
towards
the
West
,
and
will
lodge
all
their
ambition
,
in
the
setting
Sunne
of
Mortification
.
They
will
not
at
all
mislike
that
the
beames
of
honour
be
ecclipsed
from
them
,
so
that
the
beames
of
their
charity
may
be
able
to
shine
brightly
in
the
darknesse
of
sinfull
soules
,
and
that
they
may
cause
the
zeale
of
sauing
those
soules
,
rise
vp
from
the
descent
of
humility
.
They
will
bee
well
content
to
see
themselues
in
this
setting
quarter
,
where
the
day
of
honour
dyes
,
where
tempests
are
wont
to
rise
in
the
sea
,
where
impetuous
windes
and
hailes
are
wont
to
grow
,
where
the
world
seemes
to
be
in
affliction
and
misery
.
That
which
they
desire
(
after
they
shall
haue
receiued
some
beame
of
fauour
from
you
)
is
to
labour
for
the
saluation
of
soules
,
and
the
conuersion
of
sinners
.
Let
the
tempest
of
slanders
,
the
hayle
of
murmurings
,
let
combats
and
strife
against
infernall
powers
,
be
for
them
;
and
they
will
gladly
vtter
these
excellent
words
.
Et
nox
sicut
dies
illuminabitur
,
sicut
tenebrae
eius
,
ita
&
lumen
eius
;
for
sitan
tenebrae
conculcabunt
me
,
&
nox
illuminatio
mea
in
delicijs
meis
.
They
will
doe
that
which
Saint
Paule
did
,
Collaboro
Euangelio
,
and
they
shall
be
that
whereof
Saint
Dennis
speaketh
,
Adiutores
Dei
&
Cooperatores
,
If
it
were
not
that
you
liked
better
to
labour
in
the
same
climate
,
you
as
fathers
,
they
as
children
,
you
as
maisters
,
they
as
seruants
,
you
as
Pastors
,
they
as
workemen
,
and
that
you
loue
to
do
like
those
nations
whereof
Pliny
speakes
,
who
for
the
most
part
had
but
one
arme
a
peece
,
and
yet
in
the
world
there
were
not
better
Archers
then
they
:
for
one
lending
his
arme
for
bending
the
bow
,
another
his
,
for
entring
the
arrow
vpon
the
string
,
and
both
of
them
employing
both
their
forces
,
draw
and
shoote
off
with
such
stiffenesse
,
that
there
is
nothing
which
they
cannot
pierce
.
O
how
strong
and
inuincible
would
the
Church
be
,
if
we
all
wrought
after
this
manner
.
Frater
qui
adiuuatur
a
fratre
,
quasi
Ciuitas
firma
,
&c.
If
we
Omnes
quae
sua
sunt
quorunt
,
non
quae
Iesu
Christi
.
And
if
all
Ecclesiasticall
persons
did
valiantly
tread
their
proper
interest
vnder
their
feete
,
and
carry
the
glory
of
God
,
the
good
of
his
seruice
,
and
the
saluation
of
soules
in
a
high
place
,
what
a
golden
age
would
this
bee
?
And
what
a
terrestriall
Paradise
,
I
beseech
you
,
my
Lords
,
should
we
find
,
if
the
Church
might
enioy
such
happinesse
in
this
age
of
ours
?
We
should
fully
enioy
this
sweete
Paradise
,
if
the
Serpents
did
not
go
continually
hissing
out
his
temptation
off
,
Eritis
sicut
Dij
.
But
whilest
euery
one
is
in
We
therefore
,
my
Lords
,
do
not
pretend
to
debate
with
you
about
any
precedence
of
authority
,
nor
to
partake
in
the
honour
of
your
greatnesse
,
this
is
confessed
to
be
yours
,
and
so
yours
,
as
that
it
belongeth
to
none
else
.
That
which
we
pretend
,
is
,
that
you
leaue
vs
where
God
hath
layd
vs
,
at
your
feete
;
but
so
that
you
will
be
pleased
to
leaue
vs
also
in
that
liberty
,
which
God
and
his
Church
,
and
Popes
,
and
Councels
,
and
your
Predecessors
,
yea
and
many
of
your selues
haue
giuen
vs
for
the
assistance
of
his
sheepe
,
and
for
the
comfort
of
those
soules
,
for
which
you
must
answere
to
Christ
our
Lord
,
who
hath
giuen
all
his
bloud
for
euery
one
of
them
.
Yea
there
is
not
any
one
of
them
,
of
whom
God
doth
not
respectiuely
say
to
you
,
as
the
sonne
of
that
Prophet
did
to
the
King
,
Custodi
virum
26.
When
you
shal
be
pleased
to
weight
all
this
well
,
my
heart
bids
me
hope
,
that
you
will
do
,
as
my
Lord
the
Cardinall
of
Rets
,
of
most
happy
and
deare
memory
,
and
Bentivoglio
who
is
a
friend
to
France
,
and
to
the
Hierarchy
,
did
at
Paris
;
and
as
my
Lord
the
Cardinal
of
Lorayne
,
and
my
Lord
Bishop
of
Toul
,
whose
memories
are
blessed
,
did
at
Nancy
.
For
both
the
one
and
the
other
having
harkned
to
certaine
persons
,
who
suggested
to
them
a
thousand
things
,
iust
like
the●e
,
which
me
having
endeauoured
to
perswade
you
now
,
having
had
some
thought
to
treate
seriously
hereof
,
and
to
procure
an
accommodation
of
things
,
and
being
certainly
,
and
fully
,
and
sincerely
informed
of
the
businesse
,
both
the
one
,
I
say
,
and
the
other
,
did
leaue
things
as
they
were
,
and
would
make
no
change
at
all
,
discerning
well
,
that
all
those
Discourses
to
the
contrary
,
had
no
manner
of
subsistance
,
but
onely
a
little
glistering
and
shewe
.
All
the
world
did
greatly
commend
their
wisedome
,
and
their
zeale
so
full
of
judgement
;
and
one
of
them
told
mee
in
plaine
tearmes
,
that
hee
discovered
well
,
how
that
in
this
businesse
,
there
was
I
know
not
what
,
which
savoured
somewhat
of
a
Schisme
.
Those
great
and
incomparable
Cardinals
of
Ioyeuse
,
and
of
Perron
,
would
never
giue
eare
to
this
Discourse
,
but
living
and
dying
,
they
witnessed
the
contrary
;
serving
themselues
most
willingly
of
Religious
men
,
for
the
good
of
their
Dioceses
.
And
to
shewe
,
that
they
repented
not
themselues
thereof
,
they
resolved
to
annexe
their
heartes
,
as
the
seales
of
their
goodnesse
to
those
former
actions
of
theirs
,
and
to
giue
them
depositated
into
the
hands
of
Religious
men
,
who
keepe
them
as
two
great
treasures
.
27.
They
who
abuse
your
goodnesse
would
make
you
,
as
it
were
,
beleeue
that
if
you
take
not
the
better
heed
,
your
authorities
wil
be
entirely
beaten
downe
,
and
that
all
is
vppon
the
poynt
of
vtter
ruine
.
I
am
glad
,
my
Lords
,
that
they
addresse
themselues
thus
to
fright
you
by
things
so
poore
,
and
of
so
little
consideration
.
For
I
must
beseech
you
to
recall
to
your
memories
,
that
in
the
yeare
1225.
or
there
abouts
,
in
the
raigne
of
Saint
Lewes
,
Gulielmus
de
Sancto
Amore
,
and
a
certaine
Sigerius
,
with
some
other
undertaking
young
Divines
,
composed
a
Booke
,
wherein
they
put
word
for
word
,
all
that
which
men
now
object
against
us
,
and
more
then
that
,
and
presented
the
Libell
,
to
Innocent
the
fourth
,
pretending
to
extinguish
those
two
holy
Orders
;
but
death
came
quickly
vppon
him
,
and
that
such
a
death
as
your selfe
may
reade
,
if
it
please
you
,
together
with
the
last
wordes
he
spake
,
which
you
may
also
vouchsafe
to
weigh
well
,
for
they
import
.
Alexander
the
fourth
followed
him
,
who
caused
this
Libell
to
be
burnt
,
as
a
worke
worthy
of
that
hand
which
set
it
forth
.
And
so
the
end
of
those
two
men
,
who
were
Tho
opus
.
15.
c.
4.
enemies
of
these
Orders
,
was
very
disastrous
;
or
of
one
of
them
at
least
,
who
dyed
miserably
.
In
fine
,
you
shall
haue
in
Saint
Thomas
all
those
very
arguments
which
are
brought
against
us
at
this
day
,
with
the
angelicall
and
most
solid
answeres
of
this
Oracle
,
who
,
at
his
returne
to
Paris
,
did
publikely
make
good
all
his
Doctrine
,
and
answered
all
them
who
went
to
assault
him
with
their
Canon
shot
,
and
with
arguments
,
which
they
conceived
to
bee
omnipotent
.
But
there
hapned
an
accident
which
discovered
that
spirit
well
,
whereby
they
were
animated
,
who
banded
themselues
against
these
.
For
uppon
a
certaine
Palme-Sunday
when
Saint
Thomas
Preached
publikely
in
the
Vniversity
,
and
spake
like
an
Angell
,
behold
a
strange
and
very
unworthy
case
which
hapned
.
For
a
certaine
silly
fellow
called
Iuliot
,
a
Picard
,
who
appeared
about
the
middle
of
the
Sermon
,
and
opening
a
great
paper
,
wherein
was
contayned
a
list
of
injurious
speeches
against
the
great
man
,
and
a
thousand
outragious
slanders
against
his
holy
Order
:
After
I
say
,
that
hee
vomited
out
all
this
,
he
concluded
thus
with
a
loud
voyce
.
How
now
my
maisters
,
can
you
be
content
after
all
this
,
to
heare
the
Sermon
of
so
wicked
a
man
,
and
of
a
Doctor
who
teacheth
so
abhominable
errors
.
And
you
brother
Thomas
,
what
doe
you
answere
to
this
?
Now
the
people
was
confounded
to
see
the
vnspeakeable
modesty
of
Saint
Thomas
,
who
harkened
to
all
that
poysoned
Discourse
with
so
profound
humility
,
and
with
a
silence
so
full
of
modestie
,
and
holy
mortification
;
that
they
esteemed
him
as
a
Saint
of
Heaven
,
for
hee
did
never
so
much
as
answere
any
one
word
.
But
the
people
calling
up
their
spirits
,
and
considering
the
insolency
of
this
bold
meane
fellow
,
did
that
,
which
you
may
read
if
it
please
you
,
in
the
story
;
for
I
will
not
loade
this
paper
with
it
,
nor
yet
importune
you
.
But
so
it
is
,
that
the
Auditors
did
that
,
which
perhaps
you
your selues
wold
haue
done
,
if
you
had
beene
at
that
Sermon
;
and
the
King
caused
him
,
and
those
maisters
of
Arte
,
to
bee
punished
,
who
had
made
him
commit
that
base
tricke
,
so
full
of
insolency
and
scandall
.
Now
all
those
good
Religious
,
seeing
themselues
opprest
on
all
sides
,
and
that
the
earth
and
this
World
fayled
them
;
they
had
recourse
to
Heaven
,
and
to
the
holy
mother
of
God
,
who
appeared
to
Saint
Thomas
,
and
made
him
see
these
Words
written
in
letters
of
Gold
:
Liberavit
vos
Deus
abinimicis
vestris
,
&
de
manu
omnium
qui
oderunt
vos
.
In
a
word
,
in
the
yeare
of
our
Lord
1259.
all
this
tempest
broake
up
,
and
those
holy
men
remained
in
peace
.
But
I
dare
not
forbeare
to
tell
you
,
that
all
this
storme
grew
not
into
that
heigth
,
but
by
reason
of
a
certaine
rage
,
and
a
strong
passion
of
a
Prelate
,
who
had
seene
a
Nephew
of
his
enter
into
the
Order
of
Saint
Dominicke
,
and
had
never
beene
able
to
draw
him
thence
.
Alas
,
a
little
winde
doth
sometimes
stirre
up
great
stormes
uppon
the
Sea
of
this
World
,
and
how
many
things
do
men
ill
,
vnder
colour
of
good
,
if
they
take
not
heed
?
28.
Methinkes
you
doe
yet
desire
at
my
hands
the
Theses
which
Saint
Thomas
defended
publikely
in
this
matter
,
and
the
Propositions
which
hee
maintayned
against
all
them
who
disputed
thereof
:
which
was
the
cause
why
all
the
World
yeelded
to
the
truth
,
and
which
calmed
this
tempest
which
was
so
blacke
and
so
terrible
,
that
it
was
likely
to
swallow
up
these
two
Orders
.
I
wil
obay
and
giue
you
here
the
chiefe
points
therof
,
and
I
will
draw
them
out
of
his
booke
,
and
doe
you
but
see
,
if
they
be
not
the
very
same
of
these
dayes
.
1.
Cum
misit
Deus
Apostolos
12.
c.
4.
&
72.
Discipulos
,
dedit
illis
facultatem
alios
mittendi
,
sicut
fecit
Sanctus
Paulus
.
1
Cor.
4.
2.
Multo
melius
potest
Papa
,
&
Episcopus
delegare
alios
,
&
mittere
in
vineam
Domini
,
quam
Parochus
.
3.
Minores
Angeli
in
caelesti
Hierarchia
mitti
possunt
a
superioribus
,
&
eadem
plane
opera
exerc●nt
,
ideoque
dicuntur
Seraphin
&
Cherubin
,
quia
eorum
opera
exercent
:
sic
in
Hierarchia
Ecclesiastica
.
4.
Papa
non
destruit
Ecclesiasticam
Hierarchiam
cum
mittit
Monachos
ad
praedicandum
;
quod
enim
potest
inferior
,
ut
Curatus
,
concedere
,
committendo
curam
alicui
;
hoc
potest
ejus
superior
,
ut
Episcopus
,
&
Papa
.
5.
Papa
in
hoc
non
facit
contra
decreta
Canorum
,
nec
contra
statuta
Sanctorum
;
quod
si
daretur
eum
facere
contra
verba
statutorum
,
certum
est
eum
servare
intentionem
statuentium
,
quae
est
vtilitas
Ecclesiae
.
6.
Quae
sunt
de
jure
positiuo
,
relicta
sunt
sub
Papae
dispensatione
,
ut
est
hoc
de
quo
quaeritur
;
nempe
mittere
Monachos
ad
Praedicationes
,
&
Confessiones
audiendas
.
7.
Quisquis
Papae
,
vel
Episcopo
suo
,
vel
alicui
ejus
vicem
habenti
confessus
est
;
ille
confessus
est
proprio
Sacerdoti
.
8.
Cum
Episcopus
subditum
Sacerdotis
absoluit
perse
,
vel
per
alium
cui
commisit
,
tum
Sacerdos
Parochialis
itâ
debet
se
reputare
cognoscere
eum
,
ac
si
sibi
confessus
esset
.
Nam
cognoscere
potest
aliquem
,
aut
ex
propria
Confessione
,
aut
ex
sententia
superioris
,
an
sit
dignus
communione
.
9.
Licet
concedatur
posse
aliquod
malum
oriri
ex
hoc
,
quod
aliquis
non
confitetur
Parocho
suo
,
tamen
multo
plura
&
majora
mala
nascuntur
,
si
quis
cogatur
necessario
illi
confiteri
,
vt
patet
experientia
.
10.
Quicquid
Sancti
Doctores
&
Canones
videntur
dicere
de
Monachis
,
quorum
Officium
esse
dicitur
magis
plangere
,
quam
docere
;
hoc
dicitur
de
Monachis
illis
,
qui
nec
Sacerdotes
erant
,
neque
Diaconi
,
sed
solitarij
,
&
Heremitae
:
non
de
ijs
qui
ad
hoc
vocati
sunt
,
&
qui
non
ex
propria
authoritate
id
faciunt
,
sed
ex
commissione
Praelatorum
.
11.
Etiamsi
daretur
duos
tantum
Ordines
a
Domino
esse
institutos
,
qui
possent
propria
authoritate
praedicare
,
&c.
posset
tamen
Ecclesia
tertium
statuere
Ordinem
,
qui
posset
propria
authoritate
praedicare
;
multum
magis
eorum
quiex
commissione
,
sicut
in
Primitiua
Ecclesia
fuerunt
tantum
duo
Ordines
sacri
,
scilicet
Presbiteri
&
Deaconi
;
&
tamen
postea
Ecclesia
minores
Ordines
statuit
.
12.
Quidam
a
Confessione
desisterent
,
nisi
possint
alijs
quam
suis
Sacerdotibus
confiteri
,
propter
multas
causas
.
13.
Ex
communi
consuetudine
Orientalis
Ecclesiae
,
omnes
fere
Monachis
confitentur
.
14.
Quidam
novellum
sibi
statuentes
errorem
,
in
tantam
prorumpunt
audaciam
,
vt
asserant
,
non
posse
per
Episcopos
Religiosis
praedicta
committi
,
absque
voluntate
Parochi
,
&
quod
pernicio
sius
est
,
non
posse
hoc
asserunt
concedi
per
Privilegium
sedis
Apostolicae
.
15.
Optimè
ait
S.
Dion
.
Eccl.
Hier.
c.
6.
summus
Sacerdos
per
suos
ministros
aut
Sacerdotes
purgans
,
aut
illuminans
,
ipse
dicitur
purgare
&
illuminare
;
ergo
&
Episcopus
eodem
modo
,
qui
autem
facit
per
alium
,
per
seipsum
facere
potest
.
16.
Blasphemiae
vicinum
est
dicere
,
quod
Episcopus
non
potest
vsum
clauium
exercere
in
quemlibet
suae
Diaecesis
,
sicut
&
Christus
posset
.
17.
Potest
institui
Religio
ad
subveniendum
pauperibus
in
necessitatibus
corporis
;
ergo
multo
magis
potest
institui
ad
subueniendum
animabus
per
Praedicationes
,
&
Confessiones
.
18.
Quod
potest
inferior
,
potest
etiam
Superior
,
quod
ergo
potest
Curatus
,
potest
Episcopus
,
&
potest
Papa
.
Cui
,
vt
ait
Cyrillus
,
omnes
iure
diuino
caput
inclinant
.
19.
Alij
gubernationes
,
alij
opitulationes
,
inquit
Apost.
1.
Cor.
12.
Opitulationes
c.
23.
sunt
ij
,
qui
ferunt
opem
maioribus
,
vt
Titus
Apostolo
;
Archidiaconi
Episcopo
,
&c.
Hoc
autem
non
destruit
Hierarchiam
.
20.
Alter
alterius
membra
,
&
vnum
corpus
in
Christo
.
Rom.
12.
Manifestum
c.
3.
est
quod
Ecclesiasticae
vnitati
derogat
,
quicunque
Religiosis
impedit
ne
docere
possint
,
&c.
21.
Qui
Romanae
Ecclesiae
Privilegium
,
ab
ipso
summo
omnium
Ecclesiarum
capite
traditum
,
auferre
conatur
,
de
sacram
.
c.
1.
Romanam
Ecclesiam
.
It
is
Pope
Nicholas
the
second
,
who
speaketh
against
them
of
the
Church
of
Millan
,
for
entring
into
competition
with
Rome
,
and
would
needes
march
hand
in
hand
with
the
Romane
Church
,
which
Saint
Thomas
applieth
also
to
the
point
in
question
.
22.
Ab
Apostolis
7.
Diaconi
instituti
fuerunt
,
qui
erant
in
statu
perfectionis
;
c.
23.
nam
relictis
omnibus
secuti
,
erant
Christum
.
Ab
horum
exemplo
omnes
Religiones
deriuatae
sunt
.
Quemadmodum
ergo
Apostolu
Episcopi
,
discipulis
Parochi
,
sic
Diaconis
Religiosi
successerunt
.
23.
Behold
here
is
a
part
of
the
Propositions
,
which
Saint
Thomas
defended
at
Paris
,
in
publike
manner
,
and
with
such
amazement
of
all
the
Vniuersity
,
that
there
was
not
found
a
man
so
bold
as
to
dare
once
stirre
this
stone
.
The
Preface
of
his
Booke
carrieth
these
very
wordes
in
the
front
.
Praedictus
Doctor
post
diuinitùs
obtentam
victoriam
,
Pariseos
rediens
,
omnes
dicti
operis
Articulos
,
public●
,
&
solemnitèr
repetens
,
disputauit
,
firmavitque
.
That
which
goeth
immediatly
before
these
words
,
and
the
sentence
of
the
Pope
,
is
a
thing
which
I
will
not
cite
here
,
but
let
him
see
it
,
who
will
.
I
will
say
nothing
here
,
which
may
offend
,
or
which
may
sauour
of
recrimination
,
or
which
by
any
ill
odour
of
strong
passion
,
may
poyson
this
discourse
,
which
is
dedicated
to
pure
and
free
,
but
yet
strong
truth
.
I
coniure
you
,
my
Lords
,
to
weigh
well
these
foure
words
,
Publice
,
Solemniter
,
disputauit
,
Firmauit
.
So
that
all
Paris
had
the
contentment
to
see
this
great
person
sustaine
all
the
assaults
of
the
whole
world
,
and
hee
was
so
happy
and
so
puissant
,
that
he
made
truth
tryumph
,
and
did
with
a
little
stone
beate
downe
that
huge
Colossus
,
which
men
had
erected
,
to
the
ende
that
falling
vpon
him
,
it
might
driue
both
himselfe
and
all
his
Order
into
dust
.
30.
That
which
Gulielmus
de
sancto
Amore
had
enterprised
at
Paris
with
so
ill
successe
,
a
certaine
Richardus
Armaeanus
,
the
Primate
of
Ireland
,
after
he
had
played
rex
in
England
,
did
also
enterprise
in
Auignon
in
the
yeare
1356.
vnder
Innocent
the
sixth
,
before
the
Pope
himselfe
,
and
the
Cardinals
,
and
presented
them
with
a
booke
made
aduantageously
in
the
behalfe
of
Parsons
and
Vicars
,
yea
and
also
of
Bishops
,
against
Regulars
,
wherein
he
deliuered
the
same
things
which
had
beene
offered
before
by
Gulielmus
de
sancto
Amore
;
for
in
this
businesse
,
there
is
neuer
any
thing
but
repetitions
,
and
noyse
enough
?
without
any
fruite
at
all
,
and
ordinarily
the
matter
ends
in
some
disastrous
death
.
I
will
not
tell
you
here
,
how
this
poore
〈◊〉
died
,
but
I
will
only
put
you
in
mind
that
the
book
was
held
worthy
to
dye
with
him
,
and
that
many
who
haue
banded
themselues
against
the
seruants
of
God
,
haue
either
sooner
or
later
,
had
regret
,
and
sorrow
in
their
hearts
,
or
else
some
other
thing
which
was
worse
.
The
face
of
death
makes
the
face
of
businesse
chaunge
very
much
.
31.
The
wisest
men
haue
euer
iudged
,
that
they
haue
no
good
bargaine
,
who
make
themselues
opposites
to
the
seruants
of
God
,
especially
in
those
things
which
are
established
by
his
diuine
Maiesty
,
or
his
Grand
Vicar
,
and
there
bee
a
thousand
and
a
thousand
Histories
to
shew
this
as
lamentable
and
feareful
,
as
they
are
authenticall
.
Men
vse
sometimes
to
dispute
in
Diuinity
,
whether
the
Pope
may
erre
in
the
Canonization
of
Saints
,
as
also
about
the
approbation
of
Religious
Orders
.
For
my
part
,
I
will
not
enter
at
this
time
into
that
question
,
but
I
will
not
feare
to
say
,
that
when
God
hath
any
such
desire
,
and
that
he
sendeth
some
to
this
effect
,
if
any
man
then
make
opposition
,
God
doth
certainly
find
himselfe
offended
therby
,
and
is
wont
to
resent
it
,
and
therfore
Saint
Paule
saith
aloud
.
Itaquè
qui
haec
spernit
,
non
hominem
spernit
Now
after
points
of
faith
,
and
some
others
of
the
most
important
of
the
Church
,
I
knowe
fewe
thinges
whereof
there
is
more
formall
,
cleere
,
and
authenticall
proofe
,
then
of
the
point
which
here
I
defend
.
For
twenty
Popes
,
three
Generall
Councels
,
so
many
Prouinciall
Synodes
in
France
,
so
many
Cardinals
,
Primates
,
Arch-bishops
,
Bishops
,
Canons
,
expresse
Texts
,
fifty
Buls
,
Sentences
of
Parliaments
,
Iudgement
of
eminent
Doctors
in
great
number
,
consent
of
some
Parsons
and
Vicars
,
euen
of
Paris
,
doctors
of
the
Sorbonne
,
Saints
,
Miracles
,
Reasons
,
Arguments
,
possession
beyond
the
memory
of
man
,
Texts
of
the
Gospell
,
particular
vocations
of
God
,
who
hath
expresly
sent
vs
more
then
sixe
Religious
Orders
all
entire
,
the
authority
of
so
many
Emperours
,
Kings
,
Potentates
,
soueraigne
Courts
of
Iustice
,
heauen
and
earth
,
such
a
number
of
ages
,
and
the
voice
of
the
world
.
Is
not
,
I
say
,
all
this
sufficient
to
fortifie
this
truth
against
those
poore
reasons
which
they
alledge
,
and
which
in
very
deede
,
&
in
the
sight
of
God
,
and
of
disinteressed
men
,
are
not
of
such
moment
,
as
to
warrant
that
account
and
noyse
,
which
some
make
thereof
.
There
was
a
time
when
a
sentence
was
giuen
against
Saint
Bernard
,
and
that
from
the
highest
Tribunall
in
the
Church
of
God
.
The
Saint
seeing
himselfe
ouer
loaden
,
by
so
mighty
an
authority
here
on
earth
,
had
recourse
to
heauen
and
sayd
,
Tuum
Domine
Iesu
Tribunall
appello
,
tuo
me
iudicio
servo
;
tibi
committo
causam
Cluny
,
,
at
Rome
,
in
France
,
at
Clairivaux
;
but
at
length
the
holy
Abbot
wonne
the
cause
,
and
God
payed
him
that
which
hee
had
lost
,
and
tooke
part
in
the
businesse
with
his
servant
,
and
it
was
a
miracle
which
hee
wrought
,
writing
this
Epistle
,
and
hee
sayd
boldly
to
his
Secretary
,
Scribe
,
Scribe
,
quia
opus
Dei
est
.
It
is
for
God
,
it
is
on
the
behalfe
of
God
:
It
is
by
the
expresse
Commandement
of
God
,
it
is
for
the
saving
of
a
soule
redeemed
by
his
blood
;
it
is
for
interest
,
it
is
for
the
conseruation
of
an
Order
,
which
he
hath
established
by
meanes
of
a
servant
of
his
,
Saint
Bennet
,
who
was
our
Founder
,
and
therefore
saith
hee
write
boldly
,
feare
nothing
my
good
brother
,
neyther
the
hayle
,
nor
the
floud
,
nor
the
tempest
,
for
resolutely
God
wil
be
Maister
.
32.
I
will
not
,
my
Lords
appeale
to
any
body
from
you
,
but
to
your selues
,
and
howsoever
it
is
sayd
,
that
a
man
must
neuer
be
both
Iudge
and
party
,
yet
I
avow
to
you
with
all
candour
,
that
I
confide
so
much
in
your
goodnesse
,
your
zeale
towards
the
pure
honour
of
God
,
of
the
Church
,
and
of
France
;
and
I
adde
yet
further
in
the
goodnesse
of
our
cause
,
which
hath
beene
combated
so
often
,
and
through
the
mercy
of
God
,
hath
neuer
beene
Conquered
,
that
for
my
part
,
I
desire
no
other
Iudges
but
your selues
.
In
truth
it
seemes
to
me
that
you
and
wee
in
this
difference
are
,
as
anciently
the
two
Angels
in
Daniel
were
,
who
had
both
a
good
intention
,
and
aymed
at
nothing
but
at
the
glory
of
God
,
and
fought
not
but
for
the
salvation
of
soules
;
and
therefore
God
sent
an
Angell
,
who
is
called
of
great
Counsell
;
who
accommodated
all
,
and
made
it
evidently
appeare
who
was
in
the
right
,
and
who
in
the
wrong
.
And
I
will
hope
and
beleeue
so
well
of
his
eternall
and
paternall
providence
,
as
that
hee
will
doe
the
like
in
our
case
,
and
wil
make
you
most
evidently
discerne
his
holy
will
.
Sicut
ergo
fuerit
voluntas
in
Coelo
,
sic
fi●t
,
&c.
I
tell
you
therefore
yet
once
againe
,
that
I
will
not
appeale
from
you
to
any
but
your selues
,
but
I
will
imitate
that
good
Abbot
,
and
good
But
what
did
the
innocent
Abbot
gaine
by
this
?
A
thousand
jealousies
rose
up
against
him
,
a
thousand
slanders
were
darted
against
the
white
of
his
poore
heart
;
the
Pope
himselfe
in
a
Letter
calling
him
Rebell
and
Traytor
against
the
See
Apostolicke
.
Who
would
ever
haue
beleeved
this
?
Yet
in
fine
,
so
it
was
.
The
holy
man
opening
the
Popes
Letter
to
him
,
was
as
if
hee
had
opened
a
Cloud
full
of
fire
,
with
a
bolt
of
thunder
in
the
midst
,
and
with
a
blow
as
if
it
had
pierced
his
heart
.
But
yet
calling
his
spirits
to
himselfe
,
and
adoring
the
admirable
but
secret
providences
of
God
,
hee
wrote
in
these
tearmes
to
the
Pope
.
Quis
mihi
faciet
iustitiam
de
vobis
?
Si
haberem
In
quo
quaeso
puer
vester
tam
male
meruit
de
vestra
paterninate
,
vt
eum
inurere
&
insignire
placeret
,
Nota
,
&
nomine
Proditoris
?
Nunquid
non
me
vestrum
Vicarium
,
dignatio
vestra
constituit
,
in
reconciliatione
Petri
Pisani
,
&c.
This
vertuous
Abbot
firmely
thought
that
hee
should
haue
met
with
thankes
,
for
hauing
euen
defeated
himselfe
with
labour
to
appease
this
Schisme
;
and
in
place
thereof
hee
found
himselfe
qualified
with
the
name
of
Traytor
,
and
a
perfidious
man
,
who
had
(
as
it
were
)
betraied
both
the
Pope
and
the
Church
.
All
his
choller
was
such
,
as
that
hee
had
none
at
all
,
and
his
appealing
(
as
for
a
wrong
)
was
not
to
appeale
at
all
;
but
to
remit
it
to
the
providence
of
God
,
to
make
the
truth
appeare
,
and
to
make
his
innocency
subsist
,
which
was
evidently
afterward
as
you
know
.
33.
I
beseech
you
most
humbly
to
consider
well
,
that
notwithstanding
men
haue
desired
so
many
,
and
so
many
times
,
to
stirre
up
this
businesse
in
France
,
in
Italy
,
in
Germany
,
in
England
,
and
in
Avignon
,
there
hath
indeede
beene
made
a
great
deale
of
confused
noyse
,
but
the
Authors
thereof
haue
never
gathered
any
other
fruite
,
then
a
great
deale
of
paine
,
and
things
haue
still
remayned
in
the
same
state
they
were
in
before
.
In
fine
,
all
that
which
ordinarily
men
got
in
those
times
,
was
to
b●
able
to
obserue
in
whom
there
was
a
little
passion
,
and
in
whom
there
was
none
.
There
was
never
(
God
be
thanked
)
lesse
reason
to
bee
affraid
then
now
;
since
now
wee
see
France
to
bee
filled
with
so
many
worthy
Prelates
,
and
so
zealous
of
vertue
,
and
of
the
salvation
of
soules
,
as
you
are
.
I
beseech
God
to
multiply
these
great
fauours
towards
you
,
and
ever
to
giue
you
hearts
which
may
be
truely
Apostolicall
;
and
all
full
of
caelestiall
fire
,
and
giue
grace
to
us
,
that
wee
may
well
and
worthily
serue
the
Church
,
under
your
fauours
,
and
by
imitation
of
you
.
And
I
pray
God
that
wee
may
never
bee
reproached
for
that
,
for
which
St.
Paul
reproacheth
Apollo
regauit
,
behold
this
is
for
priviledged
Persons
,
whom
God
hath
sent
to
succour
them
.
Deus
autem
incrementum
dedit
;
Itaque
neque
qui
plantat
est
aliquid
,
neque
qui
rigat
,
sed
qui
incremen●um
dat
Deus
.
Qui
autem
plantat
&
qui
rigat
vnum
sunt
,
unusquisque
autem
propriam
mercedem
accipiet
,
secundum
suum
laborem
.
Dei
enim
sumus
adjutores
,
&c.
I
pray
God
,
I
say
,
that
the
first
part
of
this
Discourse
(
all
which
is
so
Divine
)
may
never
bee
verified
uppon
us
,
but
that
the
second
passage
may
bee
verified
,
which
certainely
is
a
most
rich
one
,
and
able
to
make
the
Gallican
Church
to
become
a
terrestiall
Paradice
,
and
the
pearle
,
the
flower
,
and
the
Lilly
de
confid
.
c.
4.
of
all
the
Churches
in
the
World
.
And
for
the
accomplishing
heereof
,
the
aduice
which
St.
Bernard
(
one
of
the
Apostles
of
our
France
,
gaue
to
Pope
Eugenius
,
who
was
both
his
Sonne
,
and
his
Father
,
and
his
very
heart
)
doth
admirably
serue
in
my
judgement
.
The
title
is
this
.
Quales
coadiutores
habere
debeat
Episcopus
,
to
discharge
himselfe
worthily
of
his
place
,
and
in
such
sort
as
that
he
may
also
saue
his
flocke
,
for
this
is
the
true
point
of
State
,
which
imports
;
and
if
this
be
not
done
,
the
rest
is
trash
.
Amongst
other
qualities
which
he
ascribeth
to
these
Prelates
,
who
haue
a
minde
to
be
Saints
,
one
is
,
that
they
take
men
who
may
serue
them
faithfully
.
These
men
he
calleth
Cooperators
and
Coadiutors
,
and
saith
;
Tuum
est
vndecunque
euocare
,
&
ascribere
tibi
,
exemplo
Moysis
senes
non
iuuenes
,
sed
senes
,
non
tam
aetate
quam
moribus
,
&c.
Elige
viros
qui
missi
post
aurum
non
cant
,
sed
Christum
sequantur
.
Qui
Regibus
Ioannem
exhibeant
,
Aegyptijs
Moysen
,
fornicantibus
Phinees
,
Eliam
idolatris
,
Elisaeum
auaris
,
Petrum
mentientibus
,
Paulum
blasphemantibus
,
negociantibus
Christum
.
Qui
vulgus
non
spernant
,
sed
doceant
,
non
diuites
palpent
,
sed
terreant
,
pauperes
non
grauent
,
sed
foueant
,
minas
Principum
non
paueant
,
sed
contemnant
,
&c.
To
doe
well
,
a
man
should
here
set
downe
the
whole
Chapter
so
precious
and
ful
of
iuyce
it
is
,
but
I
should
be
importunate
,
and
it
will
suffice
to
set
downe
the
end
thereof
.
Elige
eos
qui
ad
teredeant
,
fatigati
quidem
,
sed
non
suffarimati
;
gloriantes
quod
non
aurum
attulerint
,
sed
quod
reliquerint
pacem
regnis
,
legem
barbaris
,
quietem
Monasterijs
.
Ecclestis
,
Ordinem
,
Clericis
disciplinam
,
Deo
populum
acceptabilem
,
sectatorem
bonorum
operum
.
And
where
shall
we
find
such
men
as
these
?
It
would
become
me
ill
,
to
tell
where
,
whilest
I
am
speaking
to
you
,
my
Lords
,
who
know
it
so
much
better
then
I
,
besides
that
the
matter
speakes
sufficiently
for
it selfe
.
If
you
feare
that
Saint
Bernard
being
an
Abbot
and
a
Monke
,
may
haue
beene
too
fauourable
to
them
,
who
should
by
reason
of
their
profession
,
haue
those
qualities
which
he
holdeth
requisite
for
such
as
are
to
serue
Popes
and
Prelates
,
let
vs
take
hold
of
another
,
with
whom
we
will
make
an
end
of
this
discourse
.
Will
you
bee
content
to
beleeue
Pope
Gregory
in
this
businesse
?
Hearken
then
to
this
Oracle
,
who
applieth
most
happily
these
words
of
Iob
,
to
this
purpose
.
Quando
erit
Omnipotens
mecum
&
in
circuitu
meo
pueri
mei
,
quando
lauabam
pedes
meos
butyro
&
Petra
fundebat
riuos
olei
.
Pueri
Greg.
l.
19
c.
9.
&
10.
in
circuitu
Ecclesiae
&
Christi
sunt
qui
caelestibus
mandatis
inseruiunt
.
Pedes
sunt
sancti
Praedicatores
,
&
inferlorum
operum
Ministri
;
hi
butyro
eloquij
pedes
lauant
.
Quid
ad
haec
nos
Episcopi
,
&c.
You
may
see
the
rest
if
it
c.
4.
please
you
,
and
how
Saint
Thomas
applieth
it
to
this
question
.
If
yet
you
will
needs
feare
lest
this
great
Pope
may
also
perhaps
remember
himselfe
to
haue
beene
a
Monke
,
and
that
so
perhaps
he
may
hang
towards
the
party
of
Religious
men
,
in
pointing
at
those
conditions
,
which
are
not
more
easily
,
nor
more
eminently
,
nor
more
ordinarily
found
,
then
in
Religious
men
,
who
make
profession
thereof
,
let
vs
euen
resort
to
Saint
Charles
,
whom
you
loue
so
well
,
and
let
vs
conclude
out
of
his
mouth
,
as
we
began
by
him
.
This
holy
Prelate
will
tell
you
first
,
that
he
desireth
no
more
of
Religious
men
,
Act.
Medi●l
.
part.
4.
in
.
Instruct.
wisit.
1.
de
Regular
.
but
that
they
obserue
the
Councell
of
Trent
.
Now
this
is
reasonable
.
Secondly
,
he
commaundeth
his
visitors
,
that
performing
towards
Religious
men
,
that
which
the
Pope
hath
by
expresse
fauour
accorded
to
them
,
they
doe
by
no
meanes
grate
Act.
Medi●l
.
p.
4.
Inst.
Conf.
vpon
their
Priuiledges
.
And
this
is
also
reasonable
.
Thirdly
,
that
he
should
neuer
bee
able
to
haue
too
many
Oblati
,
or
other
labourers
for
the
sauing
of
soules
,
for
as
much
(
saith
hee
)
as
Saint
Katherine
&
l.
8.
vitae
.
c.
13.
of
Sienna
desired
euen
to
loose
heauen
,
for
the
gaining
of
one
onely
soule
,
and
what
maruell
was
it
then
if
that
holy
Virgin
would
bee
kissing
the
ground
,
and
the
place
where
Preachers
were
wont
to
set
their
feete
,
they
being
the
Cooperators
of
Iesus
Christ
.
And
there
is
nothing
more
pleasing
to
God
then
to
see
vs
such
;
and
when
hee
findeth
a
man
who
with
him
wil
beare
the
burthen
of
the
saluation
of
soules
,
&c.
Thus
saith
Saint
Charles
,
and
this
also
is
reasonable
.
He
did
euen
burne
with
such
a
loue
of
God
,
and
with
so
great
zeale
of
the
saluation
of
soules
,
that
he
could
not
get
labourers
enow
by
the
halfe
,
who
might
attend
to
this
holy
function
;
and
this
was
his
onely
reason
for
his
making
the
Oblati
of
St.
Ambrose
,
conceiuing
that
they
were
to
proue
men
who
would
sacrifice
them selues
to
this
alone
,
without
any
other
diuersion
in
the
world
,
and
depending
vpon
his
onely
will
.
But
I
haue
spoken
of
this
already
at
large
,
and
I
must
end
all
this
little
discourse
by
the
mouth
of
a
great
Apostle
.
If
,
my
Lords
,
there
be
any
thing
which
by
misfortune
may
haue
offended
you
neuer
so
little
in
this
discourse
,
which
hath
beene
made
by
your
commaundement
,
I
doe
most
humbly
begge
your
pardon
for
it
.
If
perhaps
you
may
finde
,
that
it
containeth
strong
,
and
pressing
,
and
solide
reasons
,
it
is
God
who
hath
inspired
them
,
and
therefore
the
glory
belongeth
onely
to
him
.
I
beseech
him
with
all
the
powers
of
my
soule
,
that
he
will
be
pleased
to
make
you
gust
them
well
,
and
that
he
will
graue
them
profoundly
in
your
hearts
,
to
the
end
,
that
he
who
is
the
God
of
Vnion
,
and
not
of
Diuision
,
may
establish
an
inu●olable
peace
,
and
perfect
Vnion
in
his
Church
.
For
as
for
vs
,
I
declare
thus
much
to
you
,
that
after
we
shal
haue
most
humbly
prayed
the
great
God
,
to
make
euery
one
of
you
a
Saint
Charles
whom
you
loued
so
well
,
wee
shall
esteeme
it
for
the
highest
happinesse
,
and
honour
,
and
succour
,
to
be
your
most
humble
seruants
,
and
we
will
say
with
the
Diuine
Apostle
:
Non
enim
nosmeteipsos
praedicamus
,
sed
Iesum
Christum
Dominum
nostrum
,
nos
autem
servos
vestros
per
Iesum
,
&c.
Omnia
autem
propter
vos
,
vt
gratia
abundans
per
multos
,
in
gratiarum
actione
abundet
in
gloriam
Dei
.
And
so
my
Lords
,
I
humbly
craue
your
holy
Benedictions
.
Benedictus
Deus
.
FINIS
.