A
PLAINE
CONFVTATION
OF
A
TREATISE
OF
Brownisme
,
published
by
one
of
that
Faction
;
the
Title
whereof
is
this
.
A
true
Description
out
of
the
word
of
God
of
the
visible
Church
.
The
Answere
to
the
Title
.
THE
departure
out
of
the
Church
is
rightly
called
the
badge
of
an
heretike
,
to
whom
in
his
going
out
the
Goates
do
flie
for
succour
,
when
the
sheepe
of
Christ
do
seeke
their
foode
in
the
Church
of
Christ
.
But
because
it
is
a
lesser
burthen
to
beare
the
marke
,
then
to
haue
the
name
of
an
heretike
,
it
falleth
out
that
men
in
all
ages
when
they
forsake
the
fellowshippe
of
the
saintes
of
GOD
,
they
doe
professe
a
betaking
themselues
vnto
the
true
Church
of
God
.
Heerevppon
it
commeth
that
such
as
haue
beene
nourished
with
the
milke
of
discontentment
,
strengthened
with
the
spirite
of
vnquietnesse
,
and
cloathed
with
the
profession
of
a
godlie
conscience
,
do
now
trouble
and
molest
vs
,
refuse
to
continue
with
vs
,
and
make
a
nullitie
of
our
Church
.
Their
eyes
(
they
say
)
are
now
opened
,
who
liued
vntill
nowe
in
blindnesse
,
they
haue
found
out
the
true
Church
,
whereof
they
labour
to
be
members
:
in
seeking
our
good
,
they
publish
and
set
sorth
vnto
vs
a
true
description
thereof
;
and
this
shall
bee
confirmed
out
of
the
word
of
God
.
This
their
knowledge
,
their
loue
,
and
their
faithfull
dealings
,
are
warranted
vnto
vs
in
the
Title
of
this
their
treatise
,
which
matters
if
we
can
finde
therein
,
we
will
acquite
them
from
schisme
and
heresie
:
but
if
the
discourse
be
not
answerable
vnto
the
Title
,
they
must
returne
vnto
vs
,
or
else
wee
must
acknowledge
them
to
be
,
not
as
they
pretend
,
but
as
they
are
.
Brownist
.
As
there
is
but
[
a
](A16643-e520-b)
a
Gen.
1.
1.
Exod.
20.
3.
one
God
,
and
father
of
all
,
one
Lord
ouer
all
,
and
one
Spirite
,
so
is
there
but
[
b
](A16643-e530-b)
b
1.
Timoth.
2.
4.
Phil.
2.
25.
Ephes.
2.
18.
Iohn
8.
41.
one
truth
,
one
faith
,
one
saluation
,
one
Church
,
called
in
one
hope
,
ioyned
in
one
profession
,
guided
by
one
[
c
](A16643-e540-b)
c
Deut.
6.
25.
Romans
10.
8.
2.
Timoth.
3.
15.
Iohn
8.
51.
Iohn
.
2.
3.
4.
&c.
rule
,
euen
the
word
of
the
most
high
.
The
answere
.
In
this
first
sentence
which
heere
is
sette
downe
,
wee
are
giuen
to
vnderstande
,
what
there
is
to
bee
hoped
for
in
that
which
followeth
,
both
for
the
matter
and
also
for
the
manner
of
handling
the
matter
,
if
wee
do
but
regarde
the
ende
and
scope
thereof
,
being
altogither
false
,
yet
packed
vp
with
euident
truthes
,
that
the
certaintie
of
these
might
free
the
other
of
suspition
.
The
manner
of
dealing
is
to
pester
the
margent
with
a
cloud
of
witnesses
to
smal
purpose
,
onely
they
make
the
ignorant
beleeue
,
that
he
which
gain-saith
this
booke
,
doth
speake
against
the
word
of
God
.
But
how
vainly
this
is
done
,
it
will
appeare
by
the
examination
of
the
particulars
.
Seeing
the
nature
and
gouernment
of
the
church
(
say
they
)
is
like
vnto
the
Lord
thereof
,
it
must
be
granted
,
that
as
God
is
euer
one
and
the
same
:
so
is
his
church
which
professeth
one
truth
,
holdeth
one
faith
,
and
is
guided
by
that
order
which
God
hath
reuealed
in
his
word
.
Our
answere
is
,
that
we
do
acknowledge
one
God
the
father
,
sonne
,
&
holy
ghost
,
his
truth
our
faith
,
and
the
meanes
of
our
saluation
to
be
vnchangeable
;
we
confesse
likewise
one
catholike
church
,
which
is
the
communion
of
saints
,
which
iointly
and
seuerally
do
confesse
that
saluation
is
obtained
in
and
through
Iesus
Christ
alone
.
This
church
comprehendeth
in
it
both
angels
and
men
,
the
word
of
the
most
high
.
Now
we
desire
to
know
in
what
sence
the
word
of
the
most
high
is
taken
;
for
if
they
meane
thereby
the
prouidence
of
God
,
in
which
sence
it
is
sometimes
taken
,
as
Deut.
8.
3.
&
Heb.
1.
3.
we
do
agree
in
this
clause
also
.
But
the
places
quoted
in
the
margent
,
do
shew
that
it
is
meant
of
the
reuealed
will
of
God
contained
in
his
word
;
For
Deut.
6.
25.
Moses
telleth
the
Israelites
that
the
obseruing
of
all
the
commandements
of
the
Lord
their
God
,
wil
be
their
righteousnes
.
Paul
Rom.
10.
8.
saith
,
that
the
worde
of
God
was
in
their
mouth
,
&
in
their
hart
euen
the
word
of
faith
which
was
preached
.
Againe
2.
Tim.
3.
15.
hee
sheweth
Timothie
that
the
scriptures
are
able
to
make
him
wise
vnto
saluation
,
thorough
the
faith
that
is
in
Christ
Iesus
.
Christ
in
the
eight
Chapter
of
Iohn
and
the
one
and
fiftith
verse
,
affirmeth
that
if
a
man
keepe
his
worde
,
he
shall
neuer
see
death
.
Lastly
Iohn
saith
,
1.
Iohn
.
2.
3.
By
this
we
know
that
we
know
him
,
if
we
keepe
his
commandements
.
It
is
euident
that
these
places
do
speake
of
the
word
of
God
,
which
is
giuen
vnto
vs
to
be
our
guide
in
this
life
,
for
the
gathering
togither
of
the
saints
during
their
abode
in
this
world
:
but
when
life
ceaseth
,
the
vse
of
this
word
of
God
doth
cease
in
the
Church
of
God
,
as
appeareth
in
the
first
to
the
Corinthians
the
thirteenth
chapter
and
eight
verse
,
Colossians
the
first
chapter
and
the
three
and
twentith
verse
,
&c.
Therefore
to
say
that
the
whole
church
,
that
is
,
both
angels
in
heauen
,
the
faithfull
departed
out
of
this
life
,
and
the
godly
remaining
vpon
the
earth
are
all
alike
gouerned
by
this
rule
,
doth
bewray
either
a
foule
ignorance
,
or
a
foolish
rashnesse
.
Which
rash
ignorance
if
in
this
one
matter
it
had
shewed
it selfe
onely
,
it
had
bene
more
tollerable
,
then
it
can
be
when
it
alledgeth
manie
scriptures
to
prooue
the
truth
,
so
vnseasonablie
as
here
it
doth
about
the
vnitie
of
the
Godhead
&c.
For
the
two
first
places
,
the
first
chapter
of
Genisis
and
the
first
verse
,
the
inheritour
of
mount
Sion
his
Church
:
wherefore
that
of
saint
Paul
in
the
first
to
Timothie
,
the
second
chapter
and
fourth
verse
,
might
haue
bene
sufficient
both
for
the
proofe
of
this
,
and
also
that
there
is
but
one
truth
,
one
faith
,
&c:
Vnto
the
knowledge
whereof
it
is
the
will
of
God
that
men
should
come
and
be
saued
.
We
denie
,
say
they
,
that
you
are
able
to
iustifie
that
faith
which
they
beget
:
their
reason
is
,
because
our
worshipping
of
God
is
not
ioyned
with
their
discipline
,
for
we
hold
that
faith
which
Paul
approueth
.
)
As
for
the
testimonie
which
Paul
giueth
of
Epaphroditus
,
his
brother
,
companion
in
labor
,
and
fellow
souldier
,
It
is
a
weake
proofe
of
that
whereunto
it
is
referred
,
so
is
that
of
the
Iewes
,
Brownist
.
This
Church
as
it
is
vniuersally
vnderstood
,
containeth
in
it
all
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d
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d
Gen.
17.
1.
Pet.
1.
2.
Reue.
7.
9
1.
Cor.
10.
3.
Iohn
.
●7
.
20
the
elect
of
God
that
haue
ben
,
are
,
or
shall
be
.
The
answere
.
Most
certaine
it
is
that
the
inuisible
Church
of
God
extendeth
it selfe
vnto
all
the
beloued
of
God
,
that
haue
bene
,
are
or
shall
be
,
men
and
Angells
,
beeing
complete
in
him
who
is
the
head
of
all
principalities
and
powers
,
to
wit
,
Iesus
Christ
.
We
do
agree
herein
,
yet
it
hath
his
warrant
,
such
as
it
is
,
for
it
is
here
proued
by
the
couenant
made
with
Abraham
,
Gen.
17.
and
by
the
vision
of
Iohn
,
Reuel.
7.
9.
Which
places
do
not
proue
the
matter
,
in
as
much
as
they
speake
of
the
restoring
and
preseruation
of
man
onely
,
and
not
of
the
whole
bodie
of
the
church
.
The
other
three
places
alledged
are
lesse
to
purpose
.
Peter
1.
Pet.
1.
2.
writeth
vnto
the
church
,
which
was
scattered
ouer
the
face
of
the
earth
;
so
that
he
speaketh
not
of
the
vniuersall
church
of
God
,
but
of
that
which
was
in
his
age
.
Paul
saith
,
1.
Cor.
10.
3.
that
the
fathers
did
eate
one
spirituall
meat
:
But
they
were
not
the
vniuersall
church
of
God
,
he
speaketh
only
of
those
that
were
before
him
.
Christ
prayeth
for
his
Apostles
,
Ioh.
17.
20.
and
not
for
them
onely
,
but
for
those
which
should
beleeue
in
him
thorough
their
pearching
:
he
prayeth
not
for
the
vniuersall
church
,
viz.
all
that
haue
bene
,
are
,
or
shal
be
,
but
for
those
which
being
aliue
,
should
inioy
the
ministery
of
his
Apostles
.
But
it
may
be
the
authors
meaning
is
not
out
of
euery
of
these
seuerally
,
but
from
them
al
ioyntly
to
conclude
this
vniuersal
church
,
for
as
much
as
Paul
speaketh
of
those
which
haue
bene
,
Peter
speaketh
of
those
that
are
,
and
Christ
mentioneth
those
that
shal
be
.
Which
though
we
should
grant
,
yet
they
all
mention
but
mankind
onely
,
and
thereof
not
all
the
elect
of
God
:
for
the
infants
which
are
vnder
the
couenant
,
and
departing
this
life
before
they
are
capable
of
the
ministerie
of
the
word
,
are
not
comprehended
within
the
number
of
those
which
Christ
in
that
place
prayed
for
,
Peter
did
write
vnto
,
&c.
so
that
these
places
iointly
taken
,
do
not
conteine
so
much
of
the
vniuersall
church
as
the
two
first
places
:
&
though
they
did
,
yet
they
do
not
comprehend
the
whole
as
hath
bene
said
.
Thus
a
good
dish
may
be
marred
by
an
vnskilfull
cooke
,
and
a
good
matter
spoiled
by
an
vnlearned
clearke
.
Brownist
.
But
being
considered
more
particularly
,
as
it
is
seene
in
this
present
world
:
it
consisteth
of
a
company
and
felowship
of
[
e
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e
Psa.
111.
1
&
149.
1.
Esa.
62.
12.
Eph.
1.
1.
1.
Cor.
1.
2.
Deut.
14.
2.
faithfull
and
[
f
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f
Deut.
12.
5.
Ioh.
6.
37.
&
3.
14.
&
12.
32.
Luk.
17.
3.
holy
people
,
gathered
togither
in
the
name
of
Christ
Iesus
their
only
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g
Ge.
44.
10.
Psal.
45.
6.
Zac.
9.
9.
Heb.
1.
8.
king
,
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h
Rom.
8.
34
▪
Iohn
.
17.
Heb.
5.
9.
&
8
1.
&
4.
14.
priest
,
&
[
i
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i
Deut.
18.
15
Matt.
17.
15.
Heb.
1.
1.
Gen.
14.
18.
prophet
,
[
k
](A16643-e850-b)
k
Exo.
20.
7.
Leu.
10.
5.
Ioh.
4.
23.
worshipping
him
aright
,
being
[
l
](A16643-e860-b)
l
Matt.
11.
29
1.
Cor.
11.
16.
Mar.
13.
34.
Reuel.
22.
9.
peaceably
gouerned
by
his
officers
and
lawes
,
[
m
](A16643-e870-b)
m
Eph.
4.
3.
1.
Cor.
1.
13.
Mark
.
9.
50.
keeping
the
vnitie
of
faith
in
the
bond
of
peace
,
and
[
n
](A16643-e880-b)
n
Ioh.
13.
34.
1.
Cor.
13.
4.
1.
Pet.
1.
22.
1.
Ioh.
3.
18.
loue
vnfeigned
.
Answere
.
Leauing
the
inuisible
church
of
God
,
we
are
to
keep
in
remembrance
,
that
this
discourse
is
of
the
visible
church
,
as
it
is
seene
in
this
world
:
and
it
setteth
before
our
eyes
the
matter
whereof
it
is
framed
;
the
glory
wherewith
it
is
crowned
,
the
discipline
whereby
it
is
gouerned
,
and
the
estate
which
it
enioyeth
,
euen
in
this
life
.
All
which
matters
are
here
set
downe
so
necessarie
vnto
the
esse
or
being
of
the
church
,
that
the
want
of
these
or
of
anie
of
these
,
presentlie
causeth
a
nullitie
thereof
:
but
how
substantiallie
these
matters
are
prooued
,
the
particulars
shall
make
manifest
.
The
matter
whereof
this
church
is
framed
,
a
companie
of
people
which
is
faithfull
,
&c.
The
Authors
meaning
is
expressed
more
plainely
in
the
arguments
vsed
against
the
church
of
England
,
Argument
.
6.
The
church
of
Christ
is
sanctified
and
made
glorious
,
without
spot
or
wrincle
,
or
grosse
pollution
.
Againe
,
Argument
.
8.
The
people
shal
be
all
righteous
.
Againe
,
One
wicked
man
disanulleth
the
couenant
vnto
all
.
And
in
the
latter
end
of
this
booke
it
is
concluded
,
that
in
this
visible
church
is
no
vncleane
person
.
there
may
be
pollutions
in
the
manners
of
men
being
secret
,
which
they
leaue
vnto
God
:
but
if
they
be
such
spots
and
wrinkles
,
as
declare
the
church
not
to
be
glorious
,
then
no
apparant
church
.
What
spots
they
can
finde
greater
than
those
before
mentioned
I
know
not
:
yet
this
I
adde
,
that
the
church
at
Ierusalem
was
not
greatly
glorious
in
the
dayes
of
Herods
tyrannie
,
when
also
the
office
of
the
high
Priest
was
diuided
to
two
:
Nor
from
the
dayes
of
Malachy
vntill
the
comming
of
Christ
,
during
all
which
time
there
was
a
deepe
silence
of
the
word
.
Nor
in
the
captiuitie
of
Babylon
,
as
appeareth
by
the
prophesie
of
Zacharie
.
I
will
praise
the
Lord
with
my
whole
heart
in
the
secret
meetings
of
the
iust
,
and
in
their
congregation
,
that
is
,
both
publikely
and
priuatly
,
wheresoeuer
the
iust
do
meete
.
Also
Psal.
149.
1.
where
he
calleth
the
said
meetings
,
the
congregation
of
the
godly
.
But
in
these
places
Dauid
neither
saith
,
that
it
is
vnpossible
for
a
wicked
man
to
ioyne
with
the
faithfull
in
outward
dueties
;
nor
yet
that
the
presence
of
the
vngodly
man
can
cause
the
assembly
not
to
be
the
congregation
of
the
iust
or
godly
,
which
is
the
matter
that
should
haue
bin
concluded
.
Now
wheras
the
church
is
called
an
holy
people
,
Esa.
62.
12.
&
Deut.
14.
2.
it
is
in
regard
that
they
were
the
seed
of
him
,
with
whom
the
couenant
was
made
:
Israel
that
are
of
Israel
,
holy
:
for
proofe
whereof
is
brought
Deut.
12.
5.
where
the
people
are
commanded
to
worship
in
the
place
which
the
Lord
should
choose
.
But
I
pray
you
,
when
some
of
them
obeyed
not
,
Ye
haue
seene
me
and
beleeue
not
:
the
he
addeth
,
All
that
my
father
giueth
me
,
shall
come
vnto
me
:
whereby
he
sheweth
that
the
gift
of
faith
is
the
free
election
of
the
father
in
Christ
:
so
that
faith
is
a
certaine
testimonie
of
election
to
the
faithfull
.
The
argument
standeth
thus
.
No
man
can
come
vnto
Christ
and
beleeue
in
him
,
except
it
be
giuen
him
of
the
father
:
therefore
euerie
member
of
the
visible
church
is
holy
.
[
ᶠ
]
?
if
they
be
not
all
one
,
why
is
the
handling
of
them
thus
confounded
?
in
one
of
these
must
be
acknowledged
a
foule
ouersight
.
Then
followeth
to
proue
the
holinesse
of
the
church
aforesaid
,
Iohn
.
3.
14.
&
12.
32.
both
which
places
doe
shew
,
that
Christ
will
draw
his
elect
vnto
him
:
the
first
doth
shew
the
meanes
whereby
this
shal
be
done
,
namely
,
by
the
ministerie
of
his
word
,
which
is
signified
by
his
lifting
vp
;
the
other
place
noting
the
time
,
viz.
after
his
death
.
Now
this
is
the
force
of
this
argument
:
Christ
bringeth
men
to
beleeue
in
him
,
therefore
euery
member
of
the
visible
church
is
holie
.
I
neede
not
stay
in
shewing
how
well
this
proofe
is
made
;
we
wil
come
to
the
last
place
for
this
matter
cited
,
which
is
that
of
Christ
,
Luk.
17.
3.
Looke
to
your selues
,
and
so
proceedeth
in
shewing
how
reprehensions
are
to
be
vsed
;
I
cannot
perceiue
what
moued
the
Author
to
alledge
this
place
which
pertaineth
not
to
the
matter
;
except
it
were
to
make
a
shew
in
the
margent
amongst
his
other
friuolous
&
vain
quotacions
.
To
proceede
,
This
faithfull
and
holy
people
is
gathered
in
the
name
of
Christ
Iesus
,
their
onely
king
,
priest
,
and
prophet
,
&c.
That
Christ
Iesus
is
our
onely
king
,
priest
,
and
prophet
,
and
that
the
seruants
of
God
in
all
their
assemblies
,
both
publike
and
priuate
,
do
meete
in
his
name
,
is
confessed
:
but
the
manner
of
dealing
with
the
scripture
,
is
not
here
greatly
to
be
commended
.
For
how
is
the
kingdome
of
Christ
prooued
?
for
it
is
cited
,
Gen.
44.
and
the
tenth
verse
,
where
Ioseph
speaking
to
his
brethren
of
the
cuppe
,
saith
thus
.
Now
then
,
let
it
be
according
to
your
words
,
he
with
whom
it
is
found
shall
be
my
seruant
,
and
yee
shall
be
blamelesse
.
Truely
,
if
a
written
coppie
of
this
treatise
,
being
more
ancient
then
the
printed
booke
had
not
come
vnto
my
handes
,
wherein
I
see
the
same
place
quoted
,
I
should
haue
laide
this
fault
vppon
the
Printer
,
for
I
should
neuer
haue
suspected
a
church
builder
to
haue
bene
such
a
sencelesse
prophaner
of
the
word
of
God
.
The
other
testimonies
,
viz.
Psal.
45.
6.
Zac.
9.
9.
Heb.
1.
8.
are
more
plaine
.
So
for
his
priesthood
,
the
making
intercession
for
his
,
Rom.
8.
34.
&
Ioh.
17.
which
is
a
part
of
that
function
;
and
Heb.
5.
9.
&
8.
1.
&
4.
14.
speaking
of
the
whole
office
,
are
to
be
accepted
.
Now
to
come
to
his
propheticall
function
,
for
which
is
alledged
Deut.
18.
15.
which
is
not
to
be
restrained
vnto
Christ
;
for
it
promiseth
vnto
the
church
a
continuall
succession
of
teachers
in
all
ages
.
It
is
more
to
purpose
,
which
is
alledged
out
of
Matth.
17.
5.
&
Heb.
1.
1.
but
as
touching
Gen.
14.
18.
though
it
speaketh
of
Melchisedek
,
who
was
king
of
Salem
,
and
a
Priest
,
and
was
a
figure
of
Christ
,
Heb.
7.
1.
yet
the
place
that
is
quoted
hath
small
force
in
it selfe
,
to
proue
that
,
for
the
which
it
is
brought
.
This
church
also
worshippeth
him
aright
;
that
is
,
neither
in
a
set
forme
of
praier
,
nor
yet
in
that
place
where
discipline
is
not
established
;
for
we
gather
the
Authors
minde
out
of
his
owne
writings
.
So
that
he
alloweth
that
for
true
worship
,
which
is
by
the
direction
of
Gods
spirit
,
our
onely
helpe
,
and
vnder
the
established
gouernement
of
Pastors
,
&c.
Indeed
,
coh
,
&
the
greek
houtos
,
after
this
manner
,
or
thus
:
as
if
the
place
in
Numery
were
the
sum
of
al
blessings
,
&
the
other
in
Matth.
were
only
giuen
for
a
direction
in
our
praiers
;
the
vanity
of
which
cauil
,
togither
with
the
whole
discourse
hereof
,
I
leaue
to
him
who
hath
alredy
dealt
with
this
matter
:
&
yet
in
the
meane
season
,
we
may
note
that
the
102.
Ps.
was
not
giuen
for
a
patterne
of
prayer
,
but
to
be
vsed
for
a
prayer
,
as
appeareth
by
the
title
therof
.
Tepillah
legnanei
kiiagne
toph
beliphne
Iehouah
jishpek
shicho
.
A
praier
for
the
poore
when
he
is
distressed
,
powring
out
his
meditation
before
the
Lord
.
Also
Psa.
9.
Mizmor
shir
leiom
hashabath
;
A
Psalme
&
song
for
the
sabaoth
day
.
So
that
as
the
former
was
a
set
praier
for
the
afflicted
,
so
this
latter
was
a
thanksgiuing
for
the
blessings
of
God
,
&
both
of
them
vsed
in
his
holy
worship
.
Of
the
like
sort
are
Psal.
42.
44.
22.
80.
39.
and
many
other
Psalmes
which
were
not
helpes
onely
to
meditation
,
but
set
praiers
in
the
church
of
God
.
Thirdly
,
these
places
proue
not
the
want
of
this
discipline
to
make
a
false
worship
,
but
we
say
that
God
cannot
be
truly
serued
,
where
the
discipline
described
in
this
treatise
is
established
,
which
shall
appeare
by
that
which
followeth
.
Being
peaceably
gouerned
by
his
officers
and
lawes
.
The
Author
expresseth
what
his
meaning
is
,
in
the
other
part
of
this
booke
:
for
he
describeth
these
officers
and
these
lawes
,
what
they
are
:
Concerning
all
which
,
this
I
say
in
generall
,
that
here
is
nothing
but
palpable
ignorance
to
be
found
,
for
first
these
gouerning
officers
,
Master
to
whom
shall
we
go
,
thou
hast
the
words
of
eternal
life
?
so
that
Peter
accounteth
the
word
a
sufficient
warrant
for
his
continuing
with
Christ
,
howsoeuer
these
men
though
they
confesse
that
the
worde
of
God
is
to
be
heard
,
yet
denie
the
hearing
of
it
at
their
mouthes
,
which
haue
not
ordained
Elders
among
them
.
But
this
may
seeme
no
sufficient
proofe
,
which
is
taken
from
Christ
and
his
disciples
,
forasmuch
as
this
discipline
was
not
then
commanded
,
I
answere
,
that
if
there
were
a
time
when
the
church
of
Christ
was
without
this
gouernment
,
and
forasmuch
as
it
receiued
not
the
gouernment
of
the
Iewes
,
it
is
not
a
perpetuall
rule
,
that
outward
gouernment
should
be
the
life
of
the
Church
,
but
I
will
not
holde
them
in
this
straight
:
they
aske
where
we
can
finde
a
church
without
this
gouernement
,
after
that
Christ
had
sent
his
spirite
vpon
the
disciples
.
I
answere
,
that
as
Timothie
was
left
at
Ephesus
,
so
was
Titus
in
Crete
,
I
meane
in
the
house
of
God
,
which
is
the
church
of
the
liuing
God
.
And
yet
at
that
time
Elders
were
not
appointed
in
that
church
before
Titus
had
ordained
them
,
not
to
speake
of
the
church
of
Ierusalem
,
which
made
choise
of
Deacons
,
but
not
of
Elders
.
Also
it
is
plaine
that
the
Elders
which
were
appointed
in
the
churches
by
the
Apostles
,
were
for
the
most
part
such
as
dealt
in
the
worde
,
and
not
in
gouerment
onely
,
as
heereafter
shall
be
made
more
manifest
in
his
due
place
.
Thirdly
,
that
the
Doctor
is
not
necessary
in
euery
congregation
,
nor
yet
to
execute
his
office
in
the
publike
assemblies
.
For
wheras
they
themselues
affirme
that
the
word
&
sacramentes
must
go
together
,
for
which
they
alledge
that
saying
of
Christ
,
Go
preach
,
haptising
:
by
which
saying
wee
are
drawen
to
the
mislike
of
vnpreaching
ministers
:
so
by
the
same
wee
may
conclude
against
an
vnministering
Doctorship
,
the
worde
and
Sacraments
,
the
mysteries
of
God
are
not
to
be
diuorced
,
yet
do
we
acknowledge
the
office
of
a
Doctor
,
a
distinct
matter
from
the
pastors
function
,
who
is
to
feed
his
sheep
with
the
mysteries
of
God
,
both
worde
and
Sacraments
in
the
assemblies
,
which
are
for
Gods
worship
;
the
Doctor
attending
vpon
his
dutie
in
a
place
by
the
church
appointed
,
instructing
men
in
the
true
sense
of
the
scriptures
,
whereby
the
church
may
haue
able
men
alwaies
in
readines
,
to
supplie
such
romes
as
shal
bee
void
in
the
church
by
death
or
otherwise
,
Pastor
in
ecclesijs
,
Doctor
in
scholis
.
forgiue
vs
our
sinnes
.
Neither
will
they
say
,
that
these
offices
can
at
al
times
be
had
,
especially
when
there
are
not
men
sufficiently
qualified
for
them
:
for
they
confesse
that
Gods
ordinances
are
not
to
be
prophaned
,
and
to
haue
no
Elders
is
better
then
to
haue
ignorant
and
insufficient
Elders
,
and
in
this
respect
do
they
cleare
the
church
in
the
dayes
of
Christs
humiliation
,
and
acquit
it
from
sinne
in
the
want
of
this
established
gouernement
;
nor
yet
will
they
grant
,
that
if
there
were
men
meete
for
these
offices
,
that
yet
they
should
be
set
in
these
roomes
before
the
church
doth
elect
them
,
for
here
is
no
intrusion
,
&c.
So
that
the
most
that
by
their
owne
doctrine
is
to
be
yeelded
vnto
,
is
this
;
that
when
men
are
able
,
in
respect
of
their
gifts
,
to
vndertake
this
burthen
,
if
it
be
thought
a
matter
expedient
by
euery
member
of
the
church
,
then
is
this
gouernement
necessary
,
officers
and
lawes
.
How
is
this
proued
?
Heere
is
alleaged
Matth.
11.
29.
where
Christ
willeth
vs
to
take
his
yoke
on
vs
.
Mark.
13.
34.
where
is
shewed
that
he
hath
committed
to
euerie
man
his
worke
:
in
both
these
,
he
speaketh
not
of
discipline
,
onely
he
willeth
men
in
all
meeknes
to
walke
in
their
callings
.
Whereunto
is
fitly
ioyned
that
of
Paul
,
1.
Cor.
11.
16.
If
any
man
lust
to
be
contentious
,
we
haue
no
such
custom
nor
the
churches
of
God
.
And
I
wish
with
all
my
heart
that
he
which
quoted
these
places
,
had
the
grace
to
practise
that
doctrine
which
in
them
is
contained
.
That
of
Iohn
,
Reue.
22.
9.
where
the
Angel
doth
forbid
Iohn
to
worship
him
.
I
acknowledge
my
ignorance
in
not
conceiuing
how
it
is
applied
to
the
matter
in
hande
,
Keeping
the
dutie
of
faith
.
This
keeping
of
faith
in
the
bond
of
peace
&
loue
,
beeing
required
in
the
foresaide
officers
(
as
the
wordes
seeme
to
import
)
cannot
be
concluded
by
the
places
of
Scripture
,
which
are
cited
for
that
purpose
,
Eph.
4.
3.
1.
Cor.
1.
13.
Mark
.
9.
50.
Iohn
.
13.
34.
1.
Cor.
13.
4.
1.
Pet.
1.
22.
1.
Iohn
.
3.
18.
for
all
these
(
one
of
them
onely
excepted
,
viz.
1.
Co.
13.
4.
which
describeth
the
properties
of
loue
)
are
generall
exhortations
vnto
all
men
,
not
particular
to
these
officers
,
to
keep
the
vnitie
of
the
spirit
in
the
bond
of
peace
and
loue
.
Thus
farre
of
the
matter
wherof
this
visible
church
is
framed
.
Now
followeth
the
dignity
and
glorie
thereof
.
Brownist
.
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Ps.
87.
2
ioyfull
,
excellent
and
glorious
things
are
euerywhere
in
the
Scriptures
spoken
of
this
church
,
it
is
called
the
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Ps.
87.
2
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15
Heb.
3.
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Co.
3.
17
temple
,
and
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Esa.
2.
2
Micha.
4.
1
mountaine
of
the
eternall
God
,
the
chosen
generation
,
the
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8.
3
1.
Pet.
2.
9.
holy
nation
,
the
peculiar
people
,
the
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Can.
4.
12.
Isa.
51.
3
garden
enclosed
,
the
spring
shut
vp
,
the
sealed
fountain
,
the
orchard
of
pomgranads
with
sweete
fruites
,
the
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25
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z
Mic.
3.
2
Iohn
.
3.
3
kingdome
of
Christ
:
yea
his
[
a
](A16643-e1700-b)
a
Cant.
5.
2
sister
,
his
loue
,
his
spouse
,
his
[
b
](A16643-e1710-b)
b
Psa.
45.
9
queene
,
and
his
[
c
](A16643-e1720-b)
c
1.
Cor.
12.
17
Ephe.
1.
23
bodie
,
the
ioy
of
the
whole
earth
.
To
this
societie
is
the
[
d
](A16643-e1730-b)
d
Gal.
4.
28
couenant
,
and
all
the
promises
made
of
[
e
](A16643-e1740-b)
e
Ps.
147.
14
2.
Thes.
3.
16
peace
,
of
loue
,
&
of
[
f
](A16643-e1750-b)
f
Isa.
46.
13.
Zac.
14.
17
saluation
,
of
the
[
g
](A16643-e1760-b)
g
Esa.
60
Ezec.
47
Zach.
4.
12
presence
of
God
,
of
his
graces
,
of
his
power
,
&
of
his
protection
.
Answere
.
The
excellency
of
the
visible
church
of
God
is
commended
vnto
vs
by
the
names
&
titles
giuen
vnto
it
,
&
also
by
this
,
that
the
couenant
and
promises
of
peace
are
made
vnto
it
,
[
h
](A16643-e1800-b)
h
Ez.
48.
35
Math.
8.
20
Esa.
62
both
which
we
acknoledge
with
them
,
both
iointly
,
and
in
euery
particular
title
and
promise
.
Onely
I
would
haue
obserued
that
some
of
these
quotations
are
not
made
in
the
wisest
sort
:
for
Heb.
3.
6.
and
1.
Cor.
3.
17.
do
not
speake
of
the
whole
visible
church
,
which
is
a
companie
of
both
good
and
bad
,
which
ioyne
in
one
profession
,
but
of
the
faithfull
only
,
which
are
members
of
the
same
.
Wheras
the
church
is
called
,
a
holy
people
Zach.
8.
3.
1.
Pet.
2.
9.
(
as
vpon
the
like
allegation
hath
bin
said
)
it
is
partly
in
regard
of
Gods
couenant
,
and
partly
to
put
them
in
remembrance
of
that
holinesse
,
whereunto
they
are
called
,
and
wherein
they
ought
to
walke
,
and
not
as
if
they
were
void
of
pollution
,
as
our
author
fantastically
dreameth
.
This
church
is
called
a
vineyard
Esay
.
5.
1.
but
not
in
the
place
cited
for
this
purpose
.
It
is
compared
vnto
a
garden
inclosed
,
but
not
so
called
Cant.
4.
12.
and
Esa.
51.
3.
It
is
called
the
kingdom
of
heauen
Matth.
11.
12.
but
in
the
thirde
of
Michah
alleaged
is
no
such
thing
.
In
deede
in
a
written
copie
I
finde
Math.
3.
2.
quoted
,
where
the
kingdome
of
God
is
mentioned
,
not
for
the
visible
Church
,
but
for
that
happinesse
which
is
assured
in
newnesse
of
life
.
In
which
sense
that
of
Christ
is
to
be
vnderstood
Iohn
.
3.
3.
whereas
the
Church
is
called
the
body
of
Christ
.
Ephes.
1.
23.
It
is
not
meant
by
the
visible
,
but
the
vniuersall
church
of
God
.
Thus
vnder
hope
to
get
credit
by
folding
vp
a
multitude
of
scriptures
in
a
narrowe
roome
,
ignorance
hath
vnfolded
and
laide
it selfe
open
to
the
broad
world
.
But
why
are
these
titles
of
the
church
broght
into
this
treatise
?
Surely
that
from
the
excellencie
of
them
might
be
enforced
a
perfection
.
But
who
knoweth
not
wherefore
these
titles
were
giuen
,
and
those
promises
were
made
vnto
the
Church
,
viz.
that
it
and
euerie
member
there
of
might
bee
assured
of
Gods
loue
,
whereby
they
might
bee
comforted
in
the
middest
of
the
reproches
of
men
,
knowing
that
the
temporal
miseries
which
they
endure
,
and
the
despightfull
dealings
wherevnto
they
are
subiect
,
shall
not
be
able
to
ouerwhelme
them
seeing
they
are
so
precious
in
the
eies
of
God
.
Also
that
the
remebrance
of
this
excellency
,
might
stir
them
vp
to
looke
vnto
their
conuersation
,
that
as
God
hath
begum
to
deal
graciously
with
them
,
so
they
shuld
labor
for
the
continuance
of
his
loue
in
a
daily
mortifieng
of
their
corrupt
affections
,
&
putting
on
the
Lord
Iesus
,
in
whom
only
standeth
the
glorie
,
comfort
,
&
saftie
of
the
church
.
And
surely
if
this
Church
be
considered
in
her
partes
,
[
i
](A16643-e1830-b)
i
Can.
6.
4.
9.
rauishing
the
senses
to
conceiue
,
much
more
to
beholde
,
what
then
to
inioy
so
blessed
a
communion
?
For
behold
her
[
k
](A16643-e1840-b)
k
Isa.
62.
11.
Io.
12.
15
Heb.
7.
8
king
and
Lord
is
the
king
of
peace
,
and
Lorde
himselfe
of
all
glorie
.
She
enioyeth
most
holie
and
heauenly
[
l
](A16643-e1850-b)
l
Mat.
11.
30
1.
Iohn
.
5.
3.
lawes
,
most
faithfull
and
vigilant
[
m
](A16643-e1860-b)
m
Act.
20
pastors
,
most
sincere
&
pure
[
n
](A16643-e1870-b)
n
Rom.
12.
7
teachers
,
most
carefull
and
vpright
[
o
](A16643-e1880-b)
o
Rom.
12.
8
gouernours
,
most
diligent
and
[
p
](A16643-e1890-b)
p
Act.
6
trustie
deacons
,
most
louing
and
sober
[
q
](A16643-e1900-b)
q
Rom.
12.
8
Iohn
.
13.
17
Deut.
13.
17
releeuers
,
&
a
most
[
r
](A16643-e1910-b)
r
Math.
5.
5.
Deut.
18.
10
Eze.
36.
38.
Esa.
60.
8
humble
,
meek
,
obedient
,
faithful
&
louing
people
,
euerie
[
s
](A16643-e1920-b)
s
1.
Reg.
7.
9.
Zach.
14.
●1.
1
Pet.
2.
5
stone
liuing
,
elect
&
precious
,
euery
stone
hath
his
beutie
,
his
[
t
](A16643-e1930-b)
t
Gal.
6.
2
burden
&
his
[
u
](A16643-e1940-b)
u
1.
Co.
12
Rom.
12.
3
order
,
al
bound
to
[
x
](A16643-e1950-b)
x
Heb.
10.
24
edifie
one
another
,
exhort
,
reproue
&
comfort
one
another
[
y
](A16643-e1960-b)
y
Leui.
15.
17
1.
Thes.
4.
9
louingly
,
as
to
their
owne
members
,
[
z
](A16643-e1970-b)
z
Col.
3.
23
1.
Ioh.
3.
20
faithfully
as
in
the
eies
of
God
.
No
[
a
](A16643-e1990-b)
a
2.
Col.
2.
17
3.
Iohn
.
9
office
here
is
ambitiously
affected
,
no
[
b
](A16643-e2000-b)
b
1.
Ti.
4.
2.
3
Gal.
6.
12
law
wrongfully
wrested
,
or
[
c
](A16643-e2010-b)
c
1.
Cor.
5
wilfully
neglected
,
no
[
d
](A16643-e2020-b)
d
Iere.
23.
28
1.
Tim.
3.
15
truth
hid
or
peruerted
,
[
e
](A16643-e2030-b)
e
1.
Cor.
6.
and
14.
30.
euery
one
here
hath
fredom
&
power
not
disturbing
the
peaceable
order
of
the
church
,
to
vtter
his
complaints
&
griefes
,
&
freely
to
reproue
the
transgressions
&
errors
of
any
,
without
exception
of
persons
.
Here
is
no
[
f
](A16643-e2050-b)
f
Iohn
.
10.
1.
intrusion
or
climbing
vp
another
waie
into
the
sheepfold
,
than
[
g
](A16643-e2060-b)
g
Act.
1.
23.
&
6.
3.
&
14.
23
by
the
holy
&
free
election
of
the
Lords
holy
&
free
people
,
&
that
according
to
the
Lords
ordinance
,
humbling
themselues
by
fasting
and
praier
before
the
Lorde
,
crauing
the
direction
of
his
holy
spirite
for
the
trial
and
approuing
of
his
gifts
.
Here
is
a
third
matter
set
down
to
commend
the
church
vnto
vs
,
Her
King
and
Lord
is
the
king
of
peace
,
and
Lord
himself
of
al
glory
,
the
sauior
of
Sion
.
Esa.
62.
11.
a
king
,
Iohn
.
12.
15.
and
one
,
whose
soueraigntie
was
figured
in
Melchizedek
,
Heb.
7.
8.
So
that
in
regard
of
this
hir
king
,
we
also
do
confesse
the
church
to
be
glorious
;
She
enioyeth
most
holy
and
heauenly
lawes
.
Our
Sauiour
Christ
,
say
they
,
was
fortie
daies
after
his
resurrection
conuersant
with
his
Apostles
,
teaching
them
those
things
which
concerne
the
building
of
the
church
and
kingdome
,
and
the
Apostles
according
as
they
haue
receiued
instruction
of
him
,
so
they
builded
,
and
lefte
vs
a
patterne
nowe
.
So
that
these
most
holie
lawes
were
giuen
by
Christ
to
his
Apostles
,
betweene
the
times
of
his
resurrection
and
ascention
.
Whereunto
I
saie
,
that
although
the
discipline
of
Christ
beeing
his
owne
ordinance
is
most
holy
,
yet
this
is
to
put
it
in
the
number
of
vnwritten
verities
,
when
men
would
proue
it
by
such
arguments
as
this
is
.
And
as
for
the
saying
of
Christ
by
them
produced
,
it
doth
not
speake
of
discipline
,
for
hee
onelie
willeth
his
Disciples
to
take
his
yoake
vpon
them
.
I
knowe
that
they
take
this
Yoake
for
discipline
,
but
the
circumstaunces
of
the
place
do
bewraie
their
ignorance
in
so
thinking
.
For
in
bearing
this
yoake
,
CHRIST
willeth
that
his
example
bee
followed
,
Learne
of
me
,
saith
Christ
.
Nowe
I
woulde
vnderstande
of
these
men
,
what
was
that
Church
,
wherein
Christ
founde
this
discipline
established
,
and
submitted
himselfe
vnto
the
same
,
leauing
this
his
deede
for
an
example
to
bee
followed
:
if
they
cannot
tel
me
this
,
as
it
is
harde
to
shewe
that
which
neuer
was
,
I
wonder
what
hath
moued
them
to
wring
out
discipline
from
hence
,
seeing
that
Christ
onely
exhorteth
to
submission
,
meeknes
,
&c.
by
his
example
.
The
Philosopher
was
not
so
grosse
in
his
Panspermia
,
as
they
are
in
making
quidlibet
ex
quolibet
so
commonly
.
Yet
I
saie
againe
,
the
lawes
of
Christ
are
most
holy
,
and
that
discipline
which
he
approueth
most
necessarie
,
which
is
not
the
gouernment
which
heere
is
decyphered
,
for
it
shall
appeare
to
bee
the
deuice
of
man
,
without
the
approbation
of
the
word
of
God
,
but
the
rule
of
his
worde
,
wherein
wee
are
taught
to
emploie
our selues
in
our
seuerall
callings
,
to
performe
those
dueties
which
in
our
callings
God
requireth
at
our
handes
.
As
for
the
vigilancie
of
Pastors
,
I
know
,
saith
Paul
,
there
shall
enter
in
among
you
grieuous
wolues
,
not
sparing
the
flocke
,
&c.
It
is
also
the
iudgement
of
some
,
that
one
of
the
deacons
spoken
of
Act.
6.
was
the
first
of
the
Nicholaitans
mentioned
Reuel.
2.
6.
Other
places
alleaged
are
nothing
to
the
purpose
as
Ioh.
13.
7.
which
is
not
spoken
of
the
widowes
,
that
here
are
called
releuers
,
but
to
the
disciples
of
their
duties
in
helping
one
an
other
.
Likewise
Esay
.
60.
which
is
a
prophesie
of
the
calling
of
the
Gentiles
,
and
&
Eze.
36.
38.
which
promiseth
a
blessing
vpon
Israell
,
are
farre
from
prouing
that
euerie
member
of
the
visible
church
is
meeke
,
obedient
,
&c.
thus
hath
our
author
tolde
vs
of
many
good
things
,
without
due
proofe
of
any
one
.
When
this
describer
of
the
church
,
had
shewed
vs
the
sinceritie
of
euerie
member
particularly
,
he
giueth
his
iudge
ment
of
them
all
iointly
,
saying
:
Euerie
stone
is
liuing
elect
&
pretious
,
which
is
confirmed
with
three
testimonies
:
the
first
is
,
1.
Reg.
7.
9.
where
the
building
of
Solomon
being
shewed
in
order
,
that
he
built
one
house
to
dwell
in
,
an
other
called
the
forrest
of
Libanon
,
a
porch
for
the
throne
where
he
iudged
,
and
a
house
also
for
Pharaos
daughter
,
it
is
said
,
All
these
were
of
costlie
stones
.
And
how
then
?
did
euerie
of
these
buildinges
to
what
vse
soeuer
they
were
appointed
,
represent
the
visible
church
of
God
?
The
onely
sight
of
this
place
is
sufficient
to
shew
what
force
it
hath
to
prooue
the
matter
in
question
.
The
second
place
is
Zach.
14.
21.
Euerie
pot
in
Ierusalem
and
Iuda
shall
be
holie
vnto
the
Lord
of
hostes
,
and
all
they
that
sacrfice
shall
come
,
and
take
of
them
,
and
seeth
therein
:
by
this
ceremonie
the
people
were
put
in
minde
,
that
euerie
of
them
doe
worship
the
Lorde
with
holy
affections
,
but
this
doeth
not
prooue
that
all
the
people
did
thus
behaue
themselues
in
Gods
worship
;
the
contrary
is
plaine
.
Agg.
2.
11.
12.
&c.
The
last
place
which
is
1.
Pet.
2.
5.
commeth
more
neere
the
marke
:
for
the
Apostle
saith
that
as
liuely
stones
they
were
made
a
spirituall
house
;
yet
he
saith
not
that
euery
one
among
them
was
so
,
and
those
that
were
,
he
declareth
from
whence
it
came
:
to
wit
,
Iesus
Christ
.
In
which
matter
(
if
no
further
purity
be
ment
by
the
author
)
we
do
agree
:
as
also
that
euerie
one
hath
his
burthen
&
his
order
,
being
bound
to
edifie
one
an
other
,
exhort
,
reproue
,
and
comfort
one
an
other
louingly
as
being
members
of
one
bodie
,
and
faithfully
,
as
in
Gods
sight
.
The
neglect
of
these
duties
hath
bred
,
nourished
,
&
continued
this
late
&
pestilent
schisme
amongst
vs
.
That
the
affecting
of
offices
,
the
wresting
or
neglecting
of
laws
,
&
peruerting
of
truth
are
not
incident
to
the
church
,
is
newes
too
good
to
be
true
,
as
shal
appere
euen
by
the
selfe
same
places
of
scripture
which
here
are
set
in
the
margent
as
good
proofes
of
the
authors
follies
,
whiles
that
they
do
so
flatly
gainesay
that
which
they
should
iustifie
.
For
manie
make
merchandize
of
the
word
.
2.
Cor.
2.
17.
And
Diotrephes
loueth
to
haue
the
preheminence
3.
Iohn
.
9.
then
is
there
affecting
of
offices
.
In
the
latter
times
some
shall
speake
lies
through
hipocrisie
,
and
haue
their
consciences
burned
with
an
hot
iron
1.
Timoth.
4.
2.
And
some
desiring
to
make
a
faire
shew
in
the
flesh
constraine
men
to
be
circumcised
Galat.
6.
12.
then
is
there
peruerting
of
trueth
.
The
Corinthians
were
negligent
in
proceeding
against
the
incestuous
person
1.
Cor.
5.
then
is
there
neglecting
of
lawes
.
What
shall
we
then
say
to
this
man
,
who
woulde
make
the
world
beleue
,
that
the
scriptures
do
confirme
that
,
which
they
do
so
directly
and
plainely
deny
?
Let
him
pronounce
the
sentence
vpon
him selfe
.
He
saith
,
The
prophet
that
hath
a
dreame
let
him
tell
a
dreame
,
and
he
that
hath
Gods
word
let
him
speake
Gods
word
faithfully
.
Ier.
23.
28.
and
so
say
I
:
for
it
is
a
vile
abuse
,
that
is
offered
to
God
and
man
,
when
a
dreame
or
fancie
is
countenaunced
with
the
scriptures
,
which
doe
ouerthrow
it
.
What
is
the
chaffe
to
the
wheat
.
Timothie
durst
not
thus
behaue
himselfe
in
Gods
house
1.
timoth.
3.
15.
Euerie
member
of
the
church
(
say
they
)
ought
to
haue
freedome
to
vtter
his
complaintes
and
griefes
,
yea
and
not
disturbing
the
peaceable
order
of
the
church
(
by
passing
the
boundes
of
his
calling
)
to
reproue
transgressions
and
errors
:
this
we
grant
of
our
owne
accord
,
not
being
vrged
hereunto
by
any
thing
mentioned
.
1.
Corinth.
6.
or
14.
30.
which
proue
it
not
;
but
that
the
estate
of
the
visible
church
is
such
,
that
euerie
member
hath
alwaies
this
freedome
,
we
deny
it
.
Also
,
we
say
,
that
as
there
may
be
intrusion
or
climing
vp
an
other
way
into
the
sheepefold
through
mens
corruptions
,
then
by
the
election
of
those
to
whome
election
doth
belong
:
so
woulde
it
be
a
horrible
confusion
if
the
election
of
offices
were
left
in
the
hands
of
the
people
,
as
in
this
platforme
of
discipline
they
doe
teach
vs
,
but
that
the
people
should
haue
their
interest
in
ordination
,
also
is
more
then
grosse
.
For
proofe
whereof
,
I
will
not
stand
vppon
those
places
of
Paule
1.
Tim.
5.
22.
lay
not
thy
hand
rashlie
on
anie
man
,
and
T
it
15.
for
this
cause
left
I
thee
at
Creete
,
that
thou
mightest
appoint
Elders
in
euerie
citie
,
because
that
although
they
flatly
gainesay
the
ordination
of
Elders
by
the
people
;
yet
they
seeme
not
sufficient
vnto
some
,
to
infringe
the
libertie
of
the
people
in
election
also
;
inscia
vel
inuita
ecclesia
,
yet
whatsoeuer
pertaineth
to
the
state
of
the
church
,
they
haue
the
same
disposed
by
the
common
counsel
of
the
Elder
ship
,
so
that
election
is
in
their
power
,
the
people
consenting
vnto
them
.
And
therfore
(
not
to
presse
the
authority
of
Chrisostom
,
writing
about
the
yere
of
our
lord
500.
saith
flatly
that
neither
people
nor
Elders
were
to
elect
a
bishop
,
a
holie
and
free
people
?
Ye
take
too
much
vpon
you
seeing
all
the
congregation
is
holie
euerie
one
of
them
and
the
Lord
is
among
them
.
But
I
doubt
I
should
iniurie
Corah
by
comparing
these
men
vnto
him
;
for
he
vnder
the
pretense
of
holinesse
and
freedome
,
sought
onely
to
be
priuiledged
from
submission
;
but
these
our
men
vnder
the
same
vaile
,
content
not
themselues
herewith
,
but
in
their
aspiring
minds
do
seeke
to
bring
not
the
gouernement
of
the
church
onely
,
but
of
the
weale
publike
also
into
their
handes
;
for
obtaining
where
of
they
lay
this
platforme
:
first
that
priuatmen
are
to
erect
and
establish
this
gouernment
of
theirs
,
and
then
it
being
erected
that
all
matters
both
ciuill
and
ecclesiastical
are
to
be
ordered
by
the
same
.
The
later
of
these
two
pointes
wil
be
manifest
hereafter
in
their
description
of
an
Elder
,
who
(
as
they
say
)
must
discerne
betweene
plea
and
plea
,
&c.
And
as
touching
the
former
point
,
although
in
one
of
their
writings
which
they
haue
dispersed
they
haue
made
this
protestation
;
We
purpose
not
to
medle
with
the
reformation
of
the
state
,
otherwise
then
by
our
prayers
vnto
God
;
yet
as
forgetting
them selues
,
immediately
after
in
the
same
discourse
they
affirme
,
that
Christ
hath
left
but
one
forme
of
gouernement
in
his
last
will
and
Testament
vnto
his
church
,
which
he
hath
sealed
with
his
bloud
:
and
therefore
not
left
it
arbitrable
at
the
plesures
of
princes
,
or
policies
of
times
to
be
done
or
vndone
,
but
made
it
by
a
double
right
inuiolable
,
both
by
his
word
and
his
Testament
:
so
that
the
church
of
God
can
neither
be
gouerned
by
any
other
lawes
or
gouernement
,
neither
ought
it
to
be
without
this
;
for
God
holdeth
them
all
in
the
state
of
enemies
,
which
haue
not
his
sonne
to
raigne
ouer
them
.
Now
then
the
faithfull
are
commanded
to
gather
togither
in
Christs
name
,
with
promise
of
direction
&
protection
,
&
authoritie
not
only
to
establish
his
lawes
&
ordinances
among
them
but
faithfully
to
gouern
his
church
therby
;
for
the
kingdom
of
God
consisteth
not
in
word
but
in
power
.
Now
this
assembly
of
the
faithfull
before
they
be
planted
&
established
in
this
order
,
consisteth
hitherto
but
of
priuate
persons
,
none
as
yet
being
called
vnto
office
,
&
function
.
Therefore
we
may
well
conclude
that
God
commandeth
his
faithful
seruants
being
as
yet
priuat
men
,
togither
to
build
his
church
,
according
to
the
true
patterne
of
Christs
Testament
:
thus
farre
they
.
But
here
is
no
word
of
God
to
proue
any
of
these
assertions
:
we
read
of
Asa
,
Iehosaphat
,
Iehoiada
the
priest
,
Hezekia
,
Iosia
&
others
,
some
of
them
pulling
downe
the
abominations
of
Iuda
,
others
setting
vp
the
priests
&
Leuits
in
their
places
in
the
house
of
God
disposing
them
as
in
the
feere
of
God
,
semed
good
in
their
eies
;
but
in
the
whole
book
of
God
is
not
to
be
found
either
precept
or
example
to
warrant
a
priuat
man
in
purging
,
much
lesse
in
erecting
the
church
of
God
.
Who
then
required
these
things
at
the
hands
of
these
men
?
will
they
tell
vs
of
extraordinary
procedings
in
matters
of
extremity
?
Let
them
shew
herein
some
extraordinary
testimony
from
God
to
warrant
vs
in
regarding
them
,
otherwise
here
is
in
trusion
.
For
howsoeuer
Zerubbabel
&
Iehosuah
,
Ezra
&
Nehemia
did
daily
pray
for
the
restoring
of
the
people
out
of
captiuity
,
&
were
most
willing
&
ready
to
go
before
them
,
&
to
bring
them
to
Ierusalem
,
yet
vntill
they
had
authority
committed
to
them
so
to
do
by
the
kings
of
Persia
,
Cirus
,
Darius
&
others
,
Likewise
in
this
church
they
haue
holie
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Math.
5.
17
1.
Tim.
1.
18
lawes
as
limites
and
boundes
,
which
it
is
lawfull
at
no
hand
to
transgresse
,
they
haue
lawes
to
direct
them
in
the
choise
of
euerie
officer
,
what
kiude
of
them
the
Lord
will
haue
.
Brownist
.
This
tautologie
of
the
holy
lawes
of
the
church
,
it
is
not
so
vnwisely
iterated
&
repeated
,
but
it
is
as
foolishly
also
and
fondly
proued
.
For
Christ
Matth.
5.
17.
saying
,
that
he
came
not
to
destroy
the
lawe
and
the
prophets
but
to
fulfill
them
;
and
Paul
1.
Tim.
1.
18.
giuing
a
commandement
to
Timothie
,
which
commandement
is
expressed
what
it
is
in
the
third
,
fourth
,
and
fift
verses
of
the
same
chapter
,
doe
not
once
speke
of
the
churches
lawes
for
outward
direction
▪
as
may
appeare
euidently
to
euery
one
that
hath
but
a
meane
iudgement
in
the
scriptures
.
Answer
.
Their
pastor
must
be
apt
to
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Leu.
21.
17
Matth.
2.
6.
1.
Tim.
3.
2.
teach
,
no
yong
scholler
[
m
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m
2.
Tim.
2.
15.
able
to
diuide
the
word
aright
,
[
n
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n
Tit.
1.
9.
2.
Tim.
4.
holding
fast
the
faithfull
word
according
to
doctrine
,
that
he
may
be
able
also
to
exhort
,
rebuke
improue
with
wholesome
doctrine
,
and
to
conuince
them
that
say
against
it
:
he
must
be
a
man
that
loueth
goodnes
,
he
must
be
wise
,
righteoue
,
holy
,
temperate
:
he
must
be
of
life
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o
Tit.
1.
7.
8
vnreproueable
as
Gods
steward
:
he
must
be
generally
wel
reported
of
,
and
one
that
ruleth
his
owne
householde
vnder
obedience
with
all
honestie
:
he
must
be
modest
,
humble
,
meeke
,
gentle
and
louing
:
he
must
be
a
man
of
[
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p
Num.
12.
3
Esa.
50.
4
Iere.
3.
15
Eze.
34.
18.
Zach.
7.
11
Act.
20
1.
Pet.
5.
1.
2.
3.
4
1.
Tim.
2.
20
great
patience
,
compassion
,
labour
and
diligence
:
he
must
alwaies
be
carefull
and
watchfull
ouer
the
flocke
,
wherof
the
Lord
hath
made
him
ouerseer
,
with
all
willingnes
and
cheerefulnes
,
not
holding
his
office
in
respect
of
persons
,
but
doing
his
duetie
to
euerie
soule
,
as
he
will
answere
before
the
chiefe
shepheard
,
&c.
Answere
.
In
this
description
of
the
pastors
office
,
as
the
author
hath
set
down
some
things
therein
required
,
so
hath
he
lefte
other
matters
pertaining
(
by
his
own
doctrine
)
thereunto
,
altogether
vntouched
:
for
whereas
he
telleth
vs
of
an
Eldershippe
,
wherein
the
pastor
is
the
chiefe
,
here
is
nothing
mentioned
of
this
matter
,
as
if
the
ecclesiasticall
censure
remained
as
peculiar
vnto
the
Elders
.
Againe
,
forasmuch
as
he
requireth
in
a
pastor
,
that
hee
exhort
,
rebuke
,
and
conuince
the
gayne-sayers
of
wholesome
doctrine
:
hee
doth
confirme
herein
that
which
hath
ben
said
concerning
the
Doctor
,
for
either
this
function
is
not
in
the
publik
place
of
Gods
worship
,
or
else
it
doeth
intrude
into
the
pastorall
charge
,
&
so
these
offices
would
not
be
seuered
and
diuerse
.
Thirdly
,
seeing
modestie
,
humilitie
,
meeknes
,
&c.
are
necessarie
in
a
Pastor
,
Doctor
,
Elder
,
and
all
,
we
seee
howe
vnfitte
these
men
are
to
beare
anie
office
in
the
Church
of
God
,
considering
how
farre
they
are
from
modestie
,
meeknes
,
or
ciuill
honestie
,
when
they
call
the
ministerie
of
England
traitors
to
Christ
,
the
Popes
bastardes
,
wicked
guides
,
Antichrists
,
&c.
When
the
booke
of
common
praier
is
tearmed
a
peece
of
swines
flesh
,
so
fit
as
might
bee
to
proue
the
office
of
a
pastor
.
For
Nu.
12.
3.
doth
speake
of
the
meeknes
of
Moses
,
but
his
was
not
a
pastorall
charge
.
Esa.
50.
4.
setteth
foorth
the
Prophets
diligence
,
Zach.
7.
11.
complaineth
of
the
peoples
obstinacie
:
but
what
are
these
to
proue
the
office
of
a
pastor
?
The
place
that
is
quoted
1.
Tim.
2.
20.
because
it
is
somewhat
after
the
end
of
the
chapter
,
it
shall
be
answered
when
that
verse
is
found
.
Brownist
.
Their
Doctor
or
teacher
must
bee
a
man
apt
to
teach
,
Answere
.
In
this
description
of
a
doctor
here
is
nothing
differing
from
that
which
hath
bin
in
the
description
of
a
pastor
.
For
as
there
,
no
mention
was
made
of
any
ecclesiastical
iurisdiction
,
so
here
it
is
also
passed
ouer
in
silence
,
as
if
he
had
neuer
said
that
the
pastor
and
doctor
were
gouerning
officers
.
And
as
there
he
requireth
of
a
pastor
the
diuiding
of
the
worde
of
God
aright
,
and
the
approuing
of
it
to
euerie
mans
conscience
,
so
doth
he
heere
require
the
same
in
a
doctor
:
and
both
alike
in
the
iudgement
of
our
author
are
to
execute
their
office
without
any
difference
either
of
the
place
or
of
the
matter
,
or
of
the
manner
of
dealing
,
then
the
which
what
can
be
more
fond
,
if
he
speaketh
the
truth
in
saying
that
these
offices
are
limited
,
seuered
and
diuers
.
And
lastlie
,
as
in
the
description
of
a
pastor
,
the
scriptures
were
abused
,
so
in
this
of
a
doctor
they
are
not
friendly
handled
.
For
these-places
,
1.
Tim.
3.
Tit.
1.
&
2.
Tim.
2.
15.
haue
bene
alleaged
before
for
the
pastor
,
who
being
an
ouerseer
of
Christs
flocke
,
hath
not
bene
denied
the
vse
of
the
Scriptures
to
decypher
out
his
calling
,
but
in
bringing
the
same
in
again
for
a
Doctor
,
it
appeareth
that
the
store
is
now
spent
,
wherof
there
was
no
spare
in
the
beginning
of
this
Treatise
.
Also
these
1.
Cor.
1.
17.
&
2.
4.
doe
shew
what
Paul
did
in
his
Apostleship
:
but
the
office
of
a
Doctor
is
a
distinct
matter
from
the
office
of
an
Apostle
,
Their
Elders
must
be
of
wisdome
and
iudgement
,
Answere
.
The
third
sorte
of
gouerning
officers
in
the
Church
,
are
by
our
author
called
Elders
,
concerning
which
name
,
howsoeuer
Caluine
reporteth
,
Presbyteros
,
Elders
.
But
the
most
that
they
haue
euer
required
in
such
an
Elder
was
,
that
he
should
be
sound
in
faith
,
in
life
vnreproueable
,
able
to
discerne
of
the
dealings
of
euerie
calling
in
the
church
,
careful
to
see
rightly
into
the
same
,
and
readie
to
ioyne
in
correcting
with
ecclesiastical
censure
,
those
that
are
vndutifull
,
beeing
helpfull
vnto
the
rest
.
But
that
it
shoulde
belong
vnto
them
to
discerne
betweene
cause
and
cause
,
betweene
plea
and
plea
,
&c.
It
is
a
plaine
pulling
of
the
sworde
out
of
the
magistrates
hand
.
They
meane
no
such
matter
(
they
saie
)
for
they
graunt
the
magistrate
his
authoritie
ouer
the
persons
,
though
not
ouer
the
causes
of
men
.
This
it
is
,
whereas
her
Maiesty
hath
appointed
Iudges
in
the
land
to
end
causes
,
decide
controuersies
,
&
to
giue
sentence
vpon
malefactors
,
and
shirifes
to
see
the
execution
of
that
which
the
Iudges
haue
determined
:
the
seat
of
iudgement
must
be
brought
into
the
consistorie
of
these
Elders
,
and
the
office
of
the
Shirife
must
be
onely
lefte
in
the
hande
of
the
magistrate
,
to
see
the
decrees
of
these
auncients
put
in
execution
.
Now
tell
mee
if
these
men
do
not
goe
beyond
Corah
&
his
companie
,
An
Elder
is
worthie
of
double
honour
,
especially
such
as
labour
in
the
worde
and
doctrine
.
From
whence
is
collected
that
there
were
some
Elders
,
which
did
not
labour
in
the
word
and
doctrine
.
I
answere
,
that
there
was
a
time
(
as
before
was
saide
)
when
such
Elders
were
in
the
church
,
but
when
they
had
their
beginning
,
how
long
they
continued
,
&
how
far
their
office
extended
:
The
author
hath
neither
in
this
place
nor
els
where
shewed
.
At
the
first
they
were
not
,
as
by
that
hath
bene
shewed
may
appeare
.
Afterward
it
should
seeme
that
some
such
were
appointed
for
the
secret
meetings
of
the
faithful
,
whiles
they
were
vnder
persecution
,
but
when
the
church
increased
and
was
dispersed
into
nations
,
as
now
it
is
in
England
,
we
reade
not
that
such
were
continued
in
the
Church
,
nay
the
contrarie
is
flatly
testified
.
For
as
Ierome
sayeth
,
Idem
est
Presbyter
qui
est
Episcopus
:
&
antequam
diaboli
instinctu
,
studia
in
religione
fieret
,
&
diceretur
in
populis
,
ego
sum
Pauli
,
ego
Appollo
,
ego
autem
Cephae
,
communi
Presbyterorum
concilio
,
ecclesiae
gubernabantur
.
Postquam
vero
vnusquisque
eos
quos
baptizauerat
,
suos
putabat
esse
non
Christi
,
in
toto
orbe
decretumest
,
vt
vnus
de
Praesbyteris
electus
supponeretur
ceteris
,
ad
quem
omnis
Ecclesiae
cura
pertineret
.
An
Elder
is
the
same
that
a
Bishoppe
is
,
and
before
that
through
the
instigation
of
the
deuill
affection
bare
swaie
in
matters
of
religion
,
and
that
it
was
said
amongst
the
people
,
I
am
of
Paul
,
I
am
of
Apollo
,
I
am
of
Cephas
,
the
churches
were
gouerned
by
the
common
councell
of
the
elders
,
but
after
that
euerie
one
thought
,
that
those
whome
hee
baptized
were
his
owne
,
and
not
Christes
,
it
was
deereed
throughout
the
world
,
that
one
of
the
elders
should
be
set
in
the
place
of
the
rest
,
to
whome
might
pertaine
the
whole
state
of
the
Church
.
If
there
be
any
help
,
it
must
be
had
from
the
2.
Chro.
19.
8.
for
there
it
is
thus
writen
.
Moreouer
in
Ierusalem
Iehosaphat
did
appoint
of
the
Leuites
&
of
the
priests
and
of
the
chiefe
of
the
families
of
Israel
for
the
iudgements
of
the
Lord
,
and
for
strifes
,
when
they
returned
to
Ierusalem
.
By
the
iudgementes
of
the
Lord
are
vnderstood
those
holy
causes
,
the
knowledge
whereof
was
committed
to
the
priests
&
Leuites
;
by
strifes
are
noted
ciuil
contentions
:
the
ending
whereof
pertained
to
the
chiefe
of
the
families
of
Israell
.
This
selfe
same
matter
is
expressed
also
Deut.
17.
9.
If
there
arise
a
matter
too
hard
for
thee
in
iudgement
betweene
blood
and
blood
,
plea
and
plea
,
betweene
plague
and
plague
in
the
matters
of
controuersie
within
thy
gates
,
thou
shalt
then
arise
and
go
vp
vnto
the
place
which
Iehoua
thy
God
shall
choose
;
and
thou
shalt
come
vnto
the
priestes
of
the
Leuites
,
or
vnto
the
iudge
that
shall
be
in
those
daies
,
&c.
So
that
this
disiunctiue
(
or
)
doth
expresse
a
plaine
difference
betweene
the
office
of
the
priest
,
and
the
matters
belonging
to
the
iudge
.
For
althogh
ve
al
hashpat
be
red
in
some
translations
&
to
the
iudge
,
yet
the
twelft
verse
of
this
chapter
doth
end
this
controuersie
,
where
the
disiunctiue
(
or
)
is
set
downe
by
an
other
worde
;
That
man
that
wil
do
presumptuously
not
harkning
vnto
the
priest
(
that
standeth
before
the
Lord
thy
God
to
minister
there
)
o
al
hashpat
,
or
to
the
iudge
shall
dye
.
For
it
is
euident
that
bloud-shed
pertained
to
the
iudge
,
the
descrying
of
plagues
vnto
the
priest
.
Likewise
contentions
being
about
diuerse
matters
,
those
that
concerned
ciuil
affaires
pertained
to
the
temporall
iudge
,
other
matters
of
faith
,
were
to
be
decided
by
the
ecclesiasticall
censure
:
so
that
althogh
we
shuld
grant
them
a
seignorie
,
yet
all
causes
are
not
to
bee
brought
into
their
consistorie
.
In
the
meane
time
we
see
that
these
men
being
at
defiance
with
popery
,
haue
here
shewed
vs
a
reason
of
it
,
because
the
both
of
them
would
iudge
all
,
and
would
be
iudged
by
none
,
both
wold
priuiledge
their
owne
deedes
,
and
haue
the
handling
of
the
causes
of
all
others
:
and
therefore
as
in
the
Papist
,
so
in
these
we
may
see
,
a
sottish
ignorance
with
an
arrogant
and
presumptuous
spirit
.
Brownist
.
Their
Deacont
must
be
men
of
honest
report
,
Answere
.
Whereas
the
office
of
a
Deacon
is
here
mentioned
,
as
distinct
from
the
former
,
it
had
beene
requisite
for
the
author
more
fully
to
haue
expressed
his
minde
:
for
as
touching
Deacons
,
it
is
generallie
graunted
of
all
writers
,
that
they
were
in
the
primitiue
Church
,
such
as
our
author
doth
here
speake
of
.
One
saith
,
that
Presbyteri
,
Episcopi
,
&
Diaconi
,
hoc
est
ministri
Christi
,
Elders
,
Bishops
and
deacons
,
that
is
to
saie
,
the
ministers
of
Christ
:
were
names
giuen
generally
to
those
that
had
to
instruct
the
people
.
And
for
proofe
thereof
he
alleadgeth
that
of
Paul
to
Timothie
,
Ten
diaconian
sou
plerophoreson
,
Fulfilling
thy
ministerie
:
&
yet
he
was
the
disposer
of
Gods
mysteries
at
Ephesus
.
Annother
saith
,
Primum
omnes
docebant
,
&
omnes
baptizabant
,
double
tongued
,
as
if
the
deacon
were
a
teacher
in
the
word
:
and
he
himself
in
describing
how
he
fled
for
the
Arrians
,
sayth
thus
:
Monui
Diaconum
vt
recitaret
Psalmum
,
populum
item
vt
auscultaret
,
&c.
I
willed
the
Deacon
to
reade
a
Psalme
,
and
the
people
also
to
giue
eare
.
Therefore
although
master
Caluine
saieth
,
that
Diaconi
sub
Episcopo
pauperum
essent
oeconumi
:
Diaconi
,
because
they
were
ministers
of
the
worde
also
;
our
author
should
haue
shewed
vs
when
it
was
that
these
Deacons
ceased
to
deale
in
other
matters
then
in
prouision
for
the
poore
onely
,
or
else
hee
shoulde
haue
tolde
vs
that
there
are
two
sortes
of
Deacons
,
Diaconoi
tou
logou
,
minister
of
the
word
,
and
ministers
or
disposers
of
the
goods
of
the
poore
.
And
these
thinges
hee
must
haue
prooued
by
Gods
worde
,
and
then
in
this
pointe
hee
had
perfourmed
his
promise
made
in
the
Title
of
his
booke
,
and
shewed
himselfe
to
be
so
good
as
his
owne
worde
,
but
nowe
by
what
authoritie
hee
hath
affirmed
,
by
the
same
authority
may
be
denied
such
an
office
as
is
here
spoken
of
,
to
be
that
Deacon
which
is
mentioned
in
the
places
cited
.
Act.
6.
For
Philip
who
was
one
of
the
Deacons
,
did
both
teach
and
baptize
,
Act.
8.
which
matter
although
we
should
graunt
that
he
did
it
,
not
as
a
deacon
,
but
being
an
Euangelist
,
as
some
with
this
distinction
would
shifte
off
the
matter
,
yet
must
it
bee
confessed
,
that
the
Deacons
mentioned
in
the
Actes
,
were
not
discharged
from
dealing
in
the
word
,
onely
to
take
vpon
them
the
care
of
the
poore
.
Neither
doeth
Paul
1.
Tit.
3.
8.
speake
anie
thing
to
gainesaie
this
.
Yet
I
grant
that
in
the
Church
of
God
a
care
of
the
poore
must
bee
had
,
and
that
there
be
faithfull
men
appointed
for
the
same
,
of
whom
the
Apostle
speaketh
,
Rom.
12.
8.
which
place
cannot
bee
referred
vnto
the
liberalitie
of
al
Christians
in
general
,
as
some
haue
taught
.
For
this
is
handled
in
the
thirtenth
verse
of
the
same
chapter
,
which
shoulde
haue
beene
done
if
there
were
not
a
difference
betweene
the
matter
required
in
the
eight
verse
,
which
speketh
of
the
publike
officer
,
and
the
thirteenth
verse
,
which
extendeth
it selfe
to
all
Christians
:
for
vaine
repetitions
are
not
vsed
by
the
Apostle
.
But
to
go
forward
.
Brownist
.
Their
releeuers
or
widowes
must
bee
women
of
sixtie
yeeres
of
age
at
the
least
,
These
must
first
be
truelie
proued
,
then
if
they
be
found
blamelesse
,
administer
,
&c.
Answere
.
As
concerning
widowes
,
we
grant
that
they
may
be
helpfull
to
the
sicke
,
but
yet
so
burdensome
vnto
the
rest
,
that
the
reliefe
of
the
poore
whiles
they
are
to
bce
maintained
thereby
,
shall
be
diminished
,
so
that
they
may
more
truly
be
called
the
relieued
,
then
relieuers
.
Now
for
the
necessitie
of
such
in
the
church
,
it
is
not
proued
out
of
Tim.
3.
10.
nor
yet
out
of
anie
place
of
Scripture
else
;
&
why
?
For
the
L.
knoweth
the
impossibility
in
hauing
such
in
euery
congregation
,
&
in
maintaining
them
,
the
most
that
can
be
granted
is
,
that
were
the
church
possessed
of
such
,
&
therwithall
able
to
maintaine
both
them
and
these
whome
they
were
to
attend
vpon
,
then
would
it
be
a
great
comfort
to
them
all
.
I
spare
to
speake
further
of
these
,
only
it
may
be
obserued
that
the
place
cited
to
proue
such
an
office
in
the
church
,
1.
Tim.
5.
maketh
nothing
for
it
.
For
Paule
as
the
circumstanstances
of
the
place
doe
shew
speaketh
of
such
as
are
to
be
succored
by
the
church
▪
Honor
widdows
,
which
are
widdowes
indeed
,
that
is
,
which
haue
nede
of
helpe
,
and
so
procedeth
in
shewing
what
they
are
which
especially
are
to
haue
the
relief
of
the
church
,
vz.
such
as
by
reson
of
their
age
and
want
of
frends
are
not
able
to
help
themselues
,
althogh
in
a
godly
affection
they
hate
idlenesse
:
but
as
for
the
yonger
widdowes
they
are
not
to
liue
by
the
maintenance
of
the
church
,
least
that
idlenesse
be
maintained
,
the
mouthes
of
the
enemies
be
opened
against
the
truth
&
the
church
be
abused
,
whiles
the
goods
of
the
church
be
spent
vppon
those
who
make
protestation
,
that
they
haue
no
other
comfort
(
for
to
such
only
is
the
relief
of
the
church
to
be
giuen
)
&
yet
through
the
lust
of
youth
do
betake
themselues
to
mariage
again
;
which
thogh
it
be
a
matter
lawfull
in
it self
,
yet
is
it
vnlawful
to
those
that
before
God
&
his
church
haue
vowed
the
contrary
:
and
thus
is
this
place
expounded
by
Theophilact
,
Ambrose
,
Bullinger
,
Claudius
Guilliaud
and
others
.
Thus
haue
we
at
the
last
the
offices
&
officers
of
a
reformed
church
described
,
so
wel
as
our
autor
could
,
of
whom
togither
with
his
complices
we
may
truly
say
(
as
Adrianus
spake
on
his
death
bed
of
his
phisitions
,
that
they
brought
him
to
his
end
)
these
reformers
in
their
platforme
here
prescribed
haue
offred
vs
such
a
medicin
that
if
the
Church
shoulde
bee
voide
of
sense
and
receiue
it
,
shee
might
in
short
time
complaine
,
that
these
her
Phisitions
had
brought
her
to
her
end
:
yet
we
must
beleeue
vpon
paine
of
damnation
,
that
it
is
a
good
receit
:
wherein
they
deale
like
vnskilful
and
vnconscionable
Phisitions
,
who
promise
a
wonderfull
cure
,
rauishing
the
senses
to
conceiue
,
much
more
to
beholde
,
what
then
to
inioy
so
blessed
a
comfort
?
and
yet
will
minister
that
which
will
bee
the
bane
of
the
patient
.
Christ
indeede
hath
shewed
an
outwarde
gouernment
vnto
his
church
,
whereof
although
we
are
not
capable
,
partly
by
reason
of
mens
insufficiencie
to
order
it
,
&
partly
by
meanes
of
the
crookednes
of
the
common
sort
,
who
will
not
abide
to
be
ordered
by
it
,
but
especially
for
that
a
whole
nation
cannot
so
easily
be
brought
to
that
vniforme
order
,
as
some
one
priuate
congregation
,
yet
assuredly
the
neerer
we
come
to
this
his
ordinance
,
the
more
heauenly
is
that
harmonie
and
consent
of
ours
.
And
herein
I
will
not
staie
in
shewing
how
the
laws
of
our
Church
of
Englande
haue
prouided
,
that
in
the
congregations
we
should
haue
Pastors
:
In
the
Vniuersities
such
as
execute
the
office
of
doctors
in
bringing
vp
those
in
the
knoledge
of
Gods
word
,
which
may
supplie
the
places
that
are
void
of
teachers
in
the
Churches
:
&
in
all
places
,
some
to
obserue
the
behauiors
of
men
,
others
to
collect
the
reliefe
of
the
poore
,
&c.
because
that
I
write
not
an
Apologie
for
the
Church
of
England
,
onely
I
woulde
haue
men
to
see
the
gouernment
of
Brownisme
,
what
it
is
,
viz
so
far
disagreing
from
the
discipline
of
Christ
,
that
neither
the
frame
of
their
building
,
nor
the
builders
themselues
haue
the
approbation
of
Gods
worde
,
whereof
they
spake
;
but
in
this
their
dealing
are
like
vnto
the
Cuthits
&
the
rest
,
who
inhabiting
Samaria
,
falsely
bragged
that
they
were
the
children
of
Iacob
,
and
blindly
deceiued
themselues
with
a
false
worship
,
as
may
appeare
by
one
of
them
,
I
meane
the
woman
of
Samaria
,
Iohn
.
4.
For
as
the
Lord
had
established
his
worship
vppon
mount
Sion
:
so
one
Manasses
to
aduance
himselfe
,
erected
a
temple
vppon
mount
Gerazin
,
the
Iewes
according
to
Gods
appointment
worshipped
at
Sion
,
the
Samaritans
at
Gerazin
.
A
controuersie
rose
between
them
which
of
these
people
did
best
.
Yee
worship
ye
wot
not
what
;
yet
they
had
a
temple
,
a
Priesthood
,
and
other
ordinances
,
which
were
kept
at
Ierusalem
.
But
who
gaue
Manasses
authoritie
to
erect
a
temple
,
assemble
a
people
,
ordain
,
&c.
These
men
came
not
so
neere
the
discipline
of
Christ
,
as
the
Samaritans
did
resemble
the
discipline
at
Ierusalem
:
and
Manasses
being
the
sonne
of
the
high
Priest
had
as
good
a
warrant
for
his
proceedings
,
as
a
priuate
man
might
haue
,
and
yet
his
dealings
were
accursed
.
Nowe
when
these
men
faile
both
in
this
,
that
they
haue
not
authoritie
to
erect
discipline
,
and
also
if
this
were
graunted
,
in
that
they
haue
described
a
false
gouernement
,
we
may
not
pronounce
a
blessing
vppon
them
.
Brownist
.
Now
as
the
persons
giftes
,
Answere
.
Wee
haue
alreadie
hearde
both
of
the
giftes
and
of
the
offices
also
of
these
seuerall
callings
,
for
so
our
author
doth
confesse
afterwardes
.
Concerning
which
it
is
apparant
,
that
the
Pastor
and
Doctor
are
so
described
,
as
if
there
were
no
difference
betweene
them
.
The
Elder
indeede
is
seuered
from
them
both
,
as
if
gouernment
were
peculiar
vnto
him
alone
,
and
his
commission
is
sette
downe
so
large
,
as
if
it
were
not
limited
.
The
Deacons
office
may
be
diuerse
from
the
rest
,
but
as
yet
we
cannot
finde
it
in
that
which
he
hath
hetherto
set
downe
.
We
will
therefore
consider
that
which
followeth
.
For
either
to
make
his
volume
greater
,
or
to
amende
that
which
hath
bene
sayde
,
hee
fetcheth
the
matter
about
againe
,
and
notwithstanding
hee
hath
told
vs
(
as
he
acknowledgeth
)
what
these
offices
are
,
yet
a
good
lesson
cannot
be
tolde
too
often
,
we
must
bee
content
to
heare
it
againe
.
Therefore
it
followeth
.
Brownist
.
The
pastors
office
is
to
feede
the
sheepe
of
Christ
in
greene
and
wholesome
pastors
of
his
word
,
Answere
.
It
belongeth
to
the
Pastor
to
fede
the
shepe
,
to
draw
them
from
euil
by
the
power
of
the
word
,
both
in
matters
of
faith
&
manners
of
life
,
to
preserue
them
from
schismes
&
heresies
,
schismatikes
&
heretiks
,
and
to
giue
notice
of
the
wilful
and
obstinate
persons
,
that
ecclesiasticall
censure
may
proceede
against
them
.
For
proofe
whereof
the
places
alleaged
must
haue
a
gentle
construction
before
they
may
be
accounted
indifferent
.
For
though
Leuit
10.
Num.
18.
and
Ezech.
44.
do
speak
of
the
Priest
:
Likewise
Psalme
23.
and
Zach.
11.
of
Christ
:
yet
can
they
not
properly
be
applied
vnto
the
Pastor
,
except
we
adde
this
,
that
the
Pastor
must
walke
in
the
steps
of
the
Priest
,
and
in
the
matters
aforesayd
bee
a
follower
of
Christe
.
And
that
also
Reue.
22.
2.
forasmuch
as
it
speaketh
of
the
Church
triumphant
(
as
the
whole
discourse
doeth
shewe
)
it
can
hardly
be
brought
to
pertaine
vnto
the
Pastor
,
except
wee
saie
that
it
is
in
regard
that
the
ende
of
his
ministerie
is
to
bring
the
people
of
God
vnto
the
assurance
of
this
estate
.
So
that
to
fill
the
quotations
vnto
the
matter
,
wee
haue
great
need
of
a
friendly
expositor
.
Now
in
the
office
of
a
pastor
heere
is
an
addition
,
to
that
which
in
the
former
place
was
mentioned
,
that
hee
is
to
looke
into
the
most
secret
thoughtes
,
thereby
discerning
the
diseases
of
his
people
;
which
should
seeme
a
heauy
burthen
,
for
a
man
woulde
thinke
that
the
heart
of
man
is
a
bottomlesse
deepe
:
and
that
no
man
could
know
the
heart
of
man
,
but
the
spirite
that
is
in
man
,
and
that
God
onely
trieth
the
heart
and
the
raines
;
Brownist
.
The
Doctors
office
is
alreadie
set
downe
in
this
description
,
Answere
.
Our
authors
meaning
is
,
that
the
doctor
do
teach
the
truth
,
and
conuince
the
gainsayer
.
All
this
we
heard
of
before
in
the
description
of
a
doctor
,
here
then
is
no
addition
to
supplie
the
wants
of
that
discourse
,
onely
it
is
countenanced
with
a
greater
number
of
Scriptures
then
it
had
at
the
first
,
and
therein
bewraieth
a
greater
folly
,
for
the
margent
is
pestered
to
no
purpose
:
For
what
doe
these
places
cited
tell
vs
?
Ezech.
33.
1.
setteth
out
the
dutie
of
a
watchman
.
1.
Cor.
11.
19.
sheweth
the
necessitie
of
heresies
.
Ioh.
10
11.
speaketh
of
the
shepheard
Christ
,
Leuit.
10.
11.
(
which
also
was
alleadged
for
the
pastor
)
was
spoken
of
the
Priest
,
as
was
Eze.
44.
24.
and
Mal.
2.
6.
Paul
.
1.
Cor.
1.
7.
saith
that
the
Corinths
were
not
destitute
of
anie
giftes
.
Also
in
the
1.
Cor.
2.
4.
he
speaketh
of
himselfe
being
an
Apostle
.
The
two
places
of
his
Epistle
to
Timothie
,
do
shew
his
dutie
in
the
Church
of
Ephesus
,
where
(
as
these
men
saie
)
hee
had
the
function
of
an
Euanglist
.
Paul
Ephe.
2.
20.
telleth
them
that
they
are
built
vppon
the
foundation
of
the
Apostles
and
Prophets
,
Heb.
6.
and
1.
Peter
.
2.
2.
doe
declare
howe
Gods
people
ought
to
growe
vp
more
and
more
in
the
knowledge
of
Gods
mysteries
.
I
see
not
how
anie
one
of
these
places
can
directly
prooue
the
office
of
a
Doctor
in
the
Church
:
for
either
they
do
testifie
the
dutie
of
other
callinges
,
or
else
they
shewe
what
matters
are
effected
in
the
people
by
the
ministerie
of
the
pastor
.
Now
that
place
of
Paul
the
first
Epistle
to
the
Corinthians
,
the
third
Chapter
and
the
eleuenth
vearse
,
I
haue
kepte
it
vntill
the
last
place
,
for
that
I
finde
it
most
of
all
abused
,
not
so
much
because
it
is
restrained
here
to
a
Doctor
,
and
yet
the
Apostle
spake
it
generally
of
all
sortes
of
builders
:
but
for
that
the
latter
part
of
this
Scripture
is
here
expounded
of
false
Prophets
,
which
is
to
bee
vnderstoode
of
such
teachers
as
alwaies
keepe
the
foundation
,
and
builde
in
Christ
,
howsoeuer
thorough
their
frailtie
and
weakenesse
they
bee
farre
from
that
exacte
puritie
which
is
required
in
handling
the
worde
of
God
.
Brownist
.
The
office
of
the
ancients
is
expressed
in
their
description
:
Answer
.
It
should
seeme
that
the
drawer
of
this
gouernement
would
haue
the
ecclesiastical
censures
onely
to
proceed
from
the
ancients
(
or
else
he
would
in
one
place
or
other
haue
shewed
that
they
without
the
rest
were
not
to
determine
)
and
also
that
supreame
authority
should
be
in
them
to
controll
both
teacher
and
people
,
being
themselues
priuiledged
from
the
censures
of
other
.
The
office
of
the
Ancients
(
saith
he
)
is
expressed
in
the
description
:
and
in
deede
the
matters
heere
spoken
if
,
and
some
of
the
quotations
,
as
Numb
.
11.
&
2.
Chron.
19.
are
but
repeated
againe
:
I
wil
therefore
passe
them
ouer
now
.
Meat
twife
sodden
hath
little
sweetenes
in
it
.
And
as
for
the
other
places
of
Scripture
I
will
not
seuerally
handle
them
,
because
they
haue
so
small
force
in
them
to
proue
the
matter
whereunto
they
are
applied
.
That
in
the
twentith
of
the
Acts
,
&
1.
Pet.
5
haue
serued
for
the
pastor
once
or
twise
;
wherein
as
I
woulde
haue
him
consider
,
that
a
man
may
weary
his
frends
by
vsing
them
too
often
,
so
he
is
to
remember
,
that
therein
he
maketh
no
difference
betweene
a
pastor
and
an
elder
.
The
residue
of
the
Scriptures
are
these
,
Deut.
16.
18.
where
the
appointing
of
Iudges
,
Deut.
10.
16.
where
the
circumcision
of
the
hart
is
commanded
.
The
Apostle
sheweth
Timothie
his
dutie
1.
Tim.
3.
15.
and
2.
Tim.
1.
13.
he
reproueth
contention
1.
Cor.
11.
16.
&
14.
33.
sheweth
his
affection
to
the
Galathians
,
Gal.
2.
4.
and
the
creation
of
all
things
to
be
by
Iesus
Christ
Colos
1.
16.
but
what
are
all
these
for
an
Elder
?
If
it
were
not
that
Rom.
12.
8.
were
a
frende
at
all
assaies
,
we
should
haue
had
iust
occasion
to
complaine
that
all
these
places
were
abused
:
whereas
now
we
say
,
that
one
among
a
dossen
is
reasonably
wel
applied
,
although
it
can
not
be
proued
that
euen
this
place
speaketh
of
such
rulers
as
now
are
in
question
.
Brownist
.
The
Deacons
office
is
faithfullie
to
gather
and
collect
by
the
ordinance
of
the
church
,
The
releuers
and
widdowes
office
is
to
minister
vnto
the
sicke
,
Answere
.
These
offices
with
their
marginal
quotations
haue
bene
already
considered
of
,
&
therefore
auoiding
so
manie
vaine
rehearsals
,
I
referre
the
reader
to
that
which
had
bin
said
of
them
before
.
Brownist
.
These
officers
though
they
be
diuerse
and
seuerall
,
Answere
.
In
these
wordes
are
set
downe
these
principal
points
,
first
that
in
Gods
church
euerie
member
is
to
seeke
the
good
one
of
an
other
,
and
also
to
further
the
good
of
the
whole
bodie
,
Secondly
,
that
a
iarre
in
the
members
,
causeth
a
confusion
of
the
bodie
.
In
both
these
we
agree
and
do
allowe
the
ninth
of
Luke
vers.
46.
&c.
and
Ioh
13.
12.
&c.
as
good
proofs
for
them
;
although
it
is
to
be
obserued
that
neither
of
these
places
doe
speake
of
these
officers
,
for
such
there
were
not
among
the
disciples
.
Thirdly
we
are
told
that
as
euerie
member
is
to
performe
the
duties
of
his
calling
,
so
is
he
not
to
intrude
into
the
function
of
others
,
vnto
this
I
also
condescend
,
not
for
that
our
author
saith
it
,
inasmuch
as
he
will
not
frame
his
actions
according
vnto
it
;
qui
verbis
tantum
philosophatur
.
Fourthly
he
saith
that
the
necessitie
of
these
officers
is
such
,
that
whereas
one
of
them
is
wanting
,
there
is
a
grieuous
lamenesse
,
and
apparant
deformity
of
the
bobodie
,
&c.
and
this
is
proued
by
1.
Cor.
12
and
Ephesians
4.
In
both
which
places
as
other
giftes
and
offices
are
set
downe
to
haue
bene
in
the
church
,
as
1.
Cor.
12.
Apostles
,
prophets
,
gifts
of
healing
,
diuersities
of
tongues
,
&c.
And
Ephes.
4.
Apostles
,
prophets
and
euangelists
,
so
are
not
all
these
officers
required
by
our
author
in
those
places
spoken
of
,
but
in
the
place
to
the
Ephesians
,
the
pastor
and
doctor
onely
,
and
in
the
Corinthes
,
though
hee
would
indeuour
to
wring
out
elders
and
deacons
from
thense
,
yet
must
hee
acknowledge
that
his
widdowes
are
not
mentioned
.
Our
author
therefore
may
as
well
say
that
the
want
of
the
Apostles
,
Euangelists
,
gifts
of
healing
and
the
rest
doe
cause
deformitie
of
the
bodie
(
and
that
by
these
places
by
himself
alleaged
)
as
doth
the
want
of
Elders
,
Deacons
&
releeuers
.
Nay
it
hath
bene
alreadie
proued
that
this
gouernement
was
neuer
to
be
imposed
vppon
all
sortes
of
people
alike
,
and
that
the
want
of
some
of
these
offices
haue
neither
bene
deformitie
in
the
bodie
,
nor
iniurie
vnto
the
head
.
This
rather
is
an
iniurie
offered
vnto
Christ
Iesus
,
if
either
a
priuat
man
should
thrust
himselfe
into
a
publike
calling
of
the
magistracie
or
ministerie
,
without
his
warrant
(
as
these
Brownists
doe
both
)
or
if
a
publike
magistrate
shoulde
prophane
Gods
ordinances
,
by
placing
insufficient
men
in
so
high
a
roome
,
as
is
the
gouernment
of
the
church
;
which
must
be
done
,
if
this
bee
true
which
these
men
speake
.
And
thus
much
of
the
discipline
whereby
the
visible
Churche
(
as
they
say
)
shoulde
bee
gouerned
;
for
we
are
now
once
againe
come
to
the
conclusion
of
this
part
.
Brownist
.
Thus
this
holie
armie
of
Saints
is
marshalled
here
in
earth
by
those
officers
,
Brownist
.
The
muster
maister
hath
viewed
the
world
,
chosen
his
soldiers
,
appointed
the
victuallers
,
selected
out
the
sergeants
of
the
bands
,
hath
brought
them
to
their
captaine
,
and
they
are
readie
to
march
on
vnder
his
conduct
in
the
face
of
their
enemies
bodily
and
ghostly
to
the
confusion
of
sathan
,
sinne
,
hell
and
all
.
What
wages
he
exspected
for
this
his
peece
of
seruice
is
best
knowne
vnto
him selfe
;
but
what
faithfulnes
he
hath
vsed
in
his
dealing
it
is
apparant
vnto
all
:
for
in
these
three
things
his
packing
is
notorious
.
First
,
Brownist
.
Further
,
Now
this
power
which
Christ
hath
giuen
vnto
his
Church
,
and
to
euerie
member
of
his
church
,
to
keepe
it
in
order
,
he
hath
not
lefte
it
to
their
discretions
and
lustes
to
bee
vsed
or
neglected
as
they
will
,
but
in
his
last
will
and
testament
he
hath
set
downe
both
an
order
of
proceeding
,
and
an
end
to
which
it
is
vsed
.
Answere
.
God
hath
in
deede
committed
authoritie
vnto
his
church
of
binding
and
loosing
,
and
hath
also
shewed
an
order
of
proceeding
:
which
assertions
are
to
be
collected
out
of
these
three
places
of
Scriptures
,
which
are
twice
noted
in
the
margent
,
that
the
number
of
testimonies
which
they
vsed
might
seeme
greater
then
it
is
.
But
here
we
haue
to
marke
,
that
Christ
is
said
to
haue
giuen
this
power
aforesaid
to
euery
member
of
the
church
,
so
that
heere
is
no
difference
made
betwene
the
people
,
&
the
gouernors
;
or
at
the
lest
,
i●
he
supposeth
a
difference
to
be
betweene
them
:
he
hath
not
set
downe
how
farre
the
authoritie
of
the
people
is
extended
.
Againe
,
if
the
people
be
granted
so
greate
an
interest
in
the
matters
of
the
church
,
we
must
thinke
that
the
officers
themselues
,
I
meane
the
Deacons
&
releeuers
were
not
to
be
secluded
:
which
being
graunted
,
and
seemeth
here
to
be
concluded
,
not
only
women
haue
to
dele
in
the
censures
of
the
Church
,
but
also
the
description
of
euerie
office
,
(
the
Elder
onely
excepted
)
hath
ben
vnperfect
,
seeing
no
such
matter
hath
beene
mentioned
in
any
of
them
.
Secondly
,
we
are
to
note
,
that
he
saith
,
that
this
order
is
not
left
to
the
descretion
of
the
church
,
for
if
his
meaning
bee
,
that
the
censures
of
the
church
ought
to
bee
vsed
with
all
fidelitie
,
wee
doe
not
gainesaie
him
,
but
if
hee
meane
that
when
they
are
not
duely
executed
,
there
the
church
doeth
cease
to
be
the
church
apparant
(
according
to
that
doctrine
which
in
another
place
they
haue
set
downe
)
then
do
they
agree
with
the
Anabaptists
&
Donatists
herein
,
Brownist
.
And
if
the
fault
be
priuate
,
If
this
preuaile
not
to
drawe
him
to
repentance
,
Further
,
All
this
notwithstanding
,
the
church
is
not
to
holde
him
as
an
enemie
,
but
to
admonish
and
pray
for
him
as
a
brother
,
prouing
if
at
any
time
the
Lord
will
giue
him
repentance
:
for
this
power
is
not
giuen
them
to
the
destruction
of
anie
,
but
to
the
edification
and
preseruation
of
all
.
If
the
offence
bee
publike
,
the
partie
is
publikely
to
be
reproued
and
admonished
,
if
he
then
repent
not
to
proceede
to
excommunication
.
The
repentance
of
the
partie
must
bee
proportionable
to
the
offence
,
There
must
great
care
be
had
of
admonitions
,
Moreouer
in
this
church
is
an
especiall
care
had
by
euerie
member
thereof
,
Answere
.
I
thought
it
conuenient
to
ioyne
al
this
togither
,
being
but
one
matter
,
viz.
the
proceeding
of
the
church
,
and
of
euerie
member
thereof
:
Concerning
the
which
I
say
,
with
them
that
God
hath
not
onely
giuen
a
charge
to
euerie
member
of
the
church
to
looke
vnto
his
steppes
,
that
he
refraine
from
offending
his
fellow
members
,
least
thorough
his
owne
default
the
church
be
prouoked
to
proceed
against
him
,
but
also
hath
prescribed
vnto
the
Church
her
order
of
proceeding
;
which
order
I
grant
to
be
here
set
downe
in
part
;
namely
,
so
long
as
the
conuersations
of
men
are
in
question
;
but
in
matters
of
faith
these
rules
will
faile
:
for
although
it
be
the
nature
of
man
to
erre
,
&
in
his
errors
we
may
not
depriue
him
of
admonitions
,
yet
if
his
error
do
proue
an
heresie
,
after
once
or
twice
admonition
at
the
vtmost
he
is
to
be
reiected
.
For
a
simple
error
may
be
healed
,
but
peruersnesse
is
incurable
:
and
the
manner
of
his
reiection
is
not
in
a
bare
forsaking
of
him
,
but
in
restraining
him
,
least
that
by
his
false
doctrine
the
simple
sort
be
seduced
.
I
speake
not
now
of
the
Magistrates
authoritie
,
Brownist
.
In
this
church
is
the
truth
purely
taught
,
Into
this
Temple
entreth
no
vncleane
thing
,
But
without
this
church
shal
be
dogges
and
enchanters
,
and
whoremongers
,
Answere
.
Here
we
haue
described
vnto
vs
the
state
wherein
this
visible
church
doth
stand
,
both
in
regard
of
the
conenant
betweene
God
and
it
;
and
also
in
respect
of
the
sanctimonie
thereof
in
the
sight
of
men
.
As
for
the
former
of
these
,
it
is
to
be
granted
:
but
howsoeuer
the
promises
are
made
vnto
the
church
,
and
the
worship
approoued
of
God
,
is
kept
and
retained
therein
,
yet
may
it
fall
out
that
some
one
member
thereof
may
haue
no
interest
in
the
promises
,
as
Matth.
22.
13.
nor
yet
be
a
true
worshipper
of
God
,
as
Eccles.
4.
17
▪
And
although
the
church
hath
this
dignitie
giuen
vnto
it
thorow
an
especiall
grace
,
yet
some
one
man
,
who
is
not
of
the
visible
church
may
be
partaker
of
the
promises
,
and
a
true
worshipper
of
God
;
as
Naaman
the
Syrian
,
and
Iob
in
the
land
of
Hus
;
the
visible
church
then
being
among
the
people
of
Israel
.
As
touching
the
other
matter
;
viz.
that
this
church
apparant
is
commended
vnto
vs
both
for
the
puritie
thereof
in
it selfe
,
and
also
for
the
vncleannesse
of
all
those
which
are
not
members
of
the
same
.
It
is
a
palpable
grosnes
to
conceiue
,
&
a
sottish
follie
to
publish
such
a
dreame
.
For
,
are
al
they
cleane
which
enter
into
the
visible
church
?
these
men
themselues
haue
confessed
the
contrarie
.
Thus
haue
we
seene
how
the
Author
of
this
Treatise
hath
failed
in
the
perfourmance
of
his
promise
made
in
the
title
thereof
.
A
MANIFESTATION
OF
THE
INCONSTANCIE
of
Brownisme
;
grathered
out
of
two
Treatises
lately
dispersed
throughout
the
land
.
AThanasius
speaking
of
the
Eusebian
hereticke
saith
that
if
once
he
tast
the
Arrian
schisme
,
he
will
neuer
refraine
his
tongue
from
vngodlinesse
:
He
noteth
it
also
as
a
common
disease
in
all
heretikes
,
that
they
will
be
constant
in
a
peeuish
wilfulnesse
,
least
they
should
be
condemned
of
those
whom
they
haue
seduced
;
A
collection
of
certaine
slanderous
Articles
,
and
the
other
,
A
collection
of
certaine
articles
and
conferences
,
&c.
For
in
these
bookes
we
shall
finde
the
certaintie
of
doctrine
what
it
is
amongst
conceited
diuines
.
And
that
the
truth
may
be
more
euident
,
I
wil
set
downe
first
their
Articles
,
which
sometimes
they
did
hold
,
and
now
are
charged
with
.
Secondly
,
the
sore
complaints
that
they
make
of
being
slandered
with
them
by
our
Bishops
.
Thirdly
,
what
small
cause
they
haue
to
complaine
,
considering
that
they
are
now
resolute
to
defend
the
same
Articles
vnto
the
death
.
And
lastly
the
fondnesse
of
their
assertions
;
which
(
for
the
auoiding
of
tediousnes
)
shal
be
done
either
by
referring
the
Reader
vnto
those
places
,
where
these
matters
are
handled
elsewhere
,
or
else
by
plaine
and
euident
proofes
.
The
Articles
which
are
so
iniuriously
imputed
vnto
them
(
as
they
themselues
haue
published
)
are
these
.
1
THat
it
is
not
lawfull
to
vse
the
Lords
praier
publikelie
in
the
church
,
2
Secondlie
that
all
set
and
stinted
praiers
are
meere
babling
in
the
sight
of
the
Lord
,
not
to
be
vsed
in
publike
Christian
assemblies
.
3
Thirdly
,
that
the
publique
praiers
and
worship
of
God
in
England
,
as
it
is
by
law
in
the
church
of
England
established
,
is
false
,
superstitious
,
popish
,
and
not
to
be
vsed
in
anie
Christian
congregation
.
4
That
the
Church
of
England
as
it
is
now
established
is
no
entire
member
of
the
church
of
Christ
.
5
That
the
gouernment
of
the
church
of
England
,
as
it
is
now
established
,
is
no
lawfull
gouernement
,
nor
christian
,
but
antichristian
and
popish
.
6
That
the
Sacraments
of
baptisme
&
the
Lords
supper
,
as
they
are
administred
in
the
church
of
England
,
be
not
true
sacraments
.
7
That
infants
ought
not
to
be
baptised
,
according
to
the
forme
of
baptisme
ministred
now
in
the
church
of
England
,
but
are
rather
to
be
kept
vnbaptised
.
8
Manie
of
them
make
scruple
to
affirme
,
that
the
Queenes
maiestie
hath
supreame
authoritie
to
gouerne
the
church
of
England
in
cases
ecclesiasticall
and
to
make
lawes
ecclesiasticall
,
not
contrarie
to
Christs
lawes
.
9
That
the
lawes
ecclesiasticall
alreadie
established
by
the
authoritie
of
the
queene
&
realme
,
be
not
lawfull
10
That
if
the
Prince
,
or
magistrate
vnder
her
,
do
refuse
or
defer
to
reforme
such
faults
as
are
amisse
in
the
church
,
the
people
maie
take
the
reforming
of
them
into
their
owne
hands
,
before
or
without
her
authoritie
.
11
That
the
presbiterie
,
or
eldership
,
maie
for
some
causes
after
admonition
,
if
there
ensue
not
reformation
excommunicate
the
Queene
.
12
That
the
Church
of
England
,
as
it
now
standeth
by
law
established
,
professeth
not
a
true
Christ
,
nor
true
religion
,
that
it
hath
no
ministers
in
deed
,
nor
Sacraments
in
deed
.
Now
they
complaine
that
they
are
much
abused
in
being
charged
with
these
matters
,
for
the
title
of
one
of
the
Treatises
is
,
A
collection
of
certaine
slanderous
articles
giuen
out
by
the
bishops
,
against
such
faithful
Christians
,
as
they
now
vniustly
detaine
in
their
prisons
,
&c.
The
Epistle
saith
,
that
there
are
spersed
abroad
throughout
the
land
,
certaine
articles
of
the
bishops
owne
deuising
against
these
men
to
bring
them
into
hatred
with
the
whole
land
.
The
Author
in
answering
the
said
Articles
termeth
them
forged
positions
.
Again
,
God
forbid
(
saith
he
)
that
our
Magistrates
should
be
guiltie
of
our
innocent
blood
by
such
slanderous
reports
.
To
be
short
,
master
Barrow
(
as
he
himselfe
reporteth
)
complained
to
Doctor
Androwes
,
that
he
hath
bene
greeuouslie
slandred
,
blasphemed
,
and
accused
by
spearsed
articles
,
&c.
therefore
a
great
fault
there
is
in
those
,
which
offer
these
persecuted
Christians
(
for
so
they
terme
themselues
)
this
great
iniurie
;
or
else
in
them
who
,
if
the
Black-amore
could
change
his
hue
,
would
deny
their
owne
opinions
:
but
if
they
giue
the
lie
vnto
vs
without
iust
cause
,
as
it
shall
appeare
that
they
do
,
by
that
which
followeth
,
and
maintaine
these
things
,
which
thus
confidently
they
haue
denied
,
in
crying
out
,
they
are
slandered
▪
then
wil
it
also
be
confessed
,
that
they
are
not
persecuted
Christians
,
but
vnbridled
factioners
.
For
these
are
no
slanderous
positions
,
as
they
say
,
forged
against
them
by
the
bishops
;
but
phantasticall
assertions
first
deuised
,
and
now
againe
confirmed
by
themselues
,
as
by
their
seuerall
handling
of
the
seuerall
Articles
they
do
shew
.
To
the
first
Article
therefore
they
say
,
that
they
serue
onely
for
instruction
.
Againe
,
That
the
verie
forme
of
words
as
they
are
in
these
petitions
was
giuen
and
instituted
as
a
set
and
stinted
prayer
(
)
we
finde
not
in
the
scriptures
.
Also
,
to
vse
it
for
a
set
prayer
,
is
(
say
they
)
a
stinting
of
the
holy
Ghost
.
Now
if
these
assertions
do
not
agree
with
the
Article
,
and
testifie
that
they
do
hold
it
,
they
haue
the
greater
cause
to
complaine
;
but
I
see
no
difference
betwene
the
one
&
the
other
.
Now
the
folly
of
this
Article
is
manifest
in
this
;
that
the
Lords
prayer
was
giuen
for
the
same
end
,
the
other
prayers
were
in
the
canonicall
scripture
;
but
other
prayers
were
not
for
instruction
,
as
hath
bin
shewed
before
,
pag.
23.
I
need
not
make
the
conclusion
.
And
as
touching
their
denying
the
forme
of
praier
which
Christ
gaue
to
his
disciples
to
be
his
praier
,
because
we
reade
not
that
he
euer
vsed
it
:
And
their
accusing
vs
to
be
falsifiers
of
the
text
,
when
we
call
it
the
Lords
Prayer
,
If
it
were
not
a
strife
about
words
,
I
would
say
more
;
whereas
now
I
wil
onely
put
them
in
minde
,
that
we
haue
learned
this
phrase
of
the
holy
Ghost
,
who
calleth
the
prayers
which
God
hath
taught
,
and
doth
approue
his
prayers
,
as
Esa.
56.
7.
I
wil
make
them
glad
(
bebeth
tepillati
)
in
the
house
of
my
prayer
,
for
there
it
is
called
the
Lords
prayer
,
not
for
that
he
vsed
it
,
but
because
he
prescribed
it
.
And
why
then
may
not
we
in
like
sort
cal
this
the
Lords
praier
,
in
as
much
as
he
hath
taught
it
:
para
men
gar
hemin
esti
logoma
chia
,
&c
To
the
2.
article
they
say
,
that
the
canonicall
praiers
commended
to
vs
by
Gods
spirite
,
haue
this
onely
vse
,
that
they
serue
for
instruction
.
And
that
our
morning
and
euening
praiers
are
not
onely
a
babling
,
but
apocriphall
and
idolatrous
,
&c.
So
that
neither
canonicall
nor
other
praiers
that
are
prescribed
,
are
deemed
lawfull
to
be
vsed
for
praiers
in
the
sight
of
the
Lord
.
Whereby
it
is
made
manifest
,
that
they
are
not
vniustly
charged
with
this
Article
.
Which
notwithstanding
is
but
a
false
assertion
,
considering
that
sette
praiers
were
vsed
vnder
the
lawe
,
are
not
forbidden
in
the
gospell
,
and
are
also
vsed
in
all
reformed
churches
vntil
this
daie
.
To
the
3.
article
they
saie
,
that
our
liturgie
is
drawen
out
of
the
Popes
portuise
,
is
not
onely
idolatrous
,
superstious
,
and
a
deuised
worship
,
but
a
bundle
of
infinite
,
grosse
,
&
blasphemous
errours
,
a
Pseudodiathesis
,
a
counterfet
gospell
,
an
idoll
,
and
huge
Chaos
of
long
,
gathered
,
and
patched
absurdities
,
a
new
gospel
,
a
masse
booke
,
and
what
not
?
How
then
are
they
slandered
,
when
it
is
sayde
that
they
account
our
worship
of
God
,
as
it
is
now
established
,
to
be
false
,
superstitious
,
and
popish
?
But
the
best
is
,
these
calumniations
are
not
greatly
to
be
regarded
:
for
if
they
need
not
to
be
ashamed
of
learning
the
truth
of
Donatus
,
who
was
a
schismatical
heretique
,
wee
haue
as
small
cause
to
cast
awaie
good
things
,
though
it
could
be
proued
,
as
it
is
not
,
that
we
had
taken
them
from
an
heretike
.
And
though
no
worke
of
man
,
and
so
not
our
booke
of
publike
praier
can
be
free
from
all
blemishes
,
the
Lord
reseruing
this
glorie
to
himselfe
,
that
hee
will
bee
acknowledged
perfectly
wise
,
and
his
workes
onely
voide
of
imperfection
:
yet
so
farre
is
this
booke
from
deseruing
these
great
reproches
,
that
it
beeing
compared
with
the
best
treatise
that
these
disturbers
haue
brought
forth
,
the
most
grosse
and
blasphemous
error
which
they
can
proue
therin
,
may
be
iustified
in
comparison
of
many
that
are
deliuered
for
sound
doctrine
in
their
pamphlets
,
if
both
of
them
be
right
vnderstood
.
To
the
4.
they
say
,
that
it
being
subiect
to
the
worship
aforesaid
,
&
consisting
of
al
sorts
of
vnclen
spirits
,
atheists
,
papists
,
heretikes
,
&c.
it
is
not
a
true
member
of
the
bodie
of
Christ
.
It
is
not
then
blasphemy
to
charge
them
with
this
4.
article
.
And
whether
they
haue
cause
to
hold
it
vppon
this
ground
or
not
,
shal
be
euident
hereafter
.
To
the
fifth
article
,
It
is
euident
to
al
men
(
saie
they
)
and
confessed
of
our
enimies
,
that
the
ministers
,
laws
,
and
other
ordinances
,
whereby
the
parish
assemblies
are
gouerned
,
are
not
such
as
Christ
appointed
to
his
church
,
of
pastor
,
&c.
but
by
such
officers
,
courts
,
and
canons
as
are
hatched
from
Rome
.
Do
they
not
then
iustifie
this
article
,
wherin
,
as
in
others
,
they
complaine
they
are
slandered
?
yet
in
as
much
as
they
are
constant
in
it
,
let
them
proue
by
the
word
of
God
both
their
discipline
to
be
good
,
&
also
our
gouernment
to
be
Antichristian
,
which
they
will
hardlie
afford
,
considering
that
before
the
time
of
papacy
there
were
these
offices
in
the
church
which
these
men
terme
Antichrististian
,
as
M.
Caluin
testifieth
▪
Inst.
li.
5.
ca.
4.
se.
4.
whose
authoritie
I
vse
with
these
men
,
because
I
finde
that
they
themselues
haue
alleaged
the
same
.
To
the
6.
article
they
saie
,
that
we
neither
hauing
a
lawfull
ministerie
,
nor
faithfull
holie
free
people
,
&c.
the
sacraments
in
our
assemblies
deliuered
,
are
no
true
sacraments
,
nor
seales
with
promise
.
How
then
can
these
men
without
blushing
,
put
this
article
in
the
number
of
forged
positions
,
for
considering
that
they
make
their
iudgments
knowen
concerning
this
point
,
I
maruell
more
they
are
not
ashamed
to
denie
it
,
then
I
do
that
some
of
them
Donatist
like
,
haue
desired
to
be
baptised
again
.
The
answer
to
this
wil
be
easie
by
that
which
foloweth
in
the
answer
to
the
3
branch
of
the
5.
argument
.
To
the
seauenth
,
they
say
that
no
godlie
Christians
separate
from
the
false
church
,
ought
to
bring
their
infants
to
these
parish
assemblies
,
to
bee
baptised
into
that
fellowship
and
profession
,
&c.
These
wordes
do
iustifie
our
Bishops
in
charging
these
men
with
this
article
.
The
substance
whereof
seeing
it
doth
depend
vpon
the
former
article
,
the
follies
of
it
being
perceaued
the
want
of
wisedom
in
this
will
soone
be
descried
.
To
the
eight
they
say
that
all
true
christians
within
her
maiestie
dominions
,
acknowledge
her
Maiestie
to
be
the
supreame
magistrate
and
gouernes
ouer
all
persons
,
within
the
church
and
without
the
church
,
yea
,
ouer
all
causes
ecclesiasticall
and
ciuill
.
Which
assertion
if
it
had
bene
receiued
of
the
whole
sect
,
then
it
had
bene
a
slander
in
deed
,
but
in
as
much
as
in
an
assembly
of
aboue
twentie
persons
,
it
was
concluded
,
that
her
Maiestie
is
not
supreame
head
of
the
church
,
neither
hath
authoritie
to
make
lawes
ecclesiastical
in
the
church
:
they
must
acknowledge
a
dissent
of
iudgment
amongst
themselues
,
or
else
confesse
that
there
was
a
time
when
they
were
of
another
opinion
,
but
now
they
haue
learned
to
be
more
wise
,
yet
the
caueat
that
is
giuen
hath
a
secret
meaning
,
viz.
a
granting
of
the
latter
part
of
this
article
,
that
her
maiestie
hath
no
authoritie
to
make
anie
lawes
ecclesiasticall
.
But
this
being
so
closely
couered
,
I
minde
not
to
see
it
,
I
conceiue
the
best
,
namely
,
that
as
they
yeelde
more
to
her
maiestie
then
of
former
times
they
haue
done
,
so
will
they
in
time
grant
her
that
right
which
is
due
vnto
her
roiall
authoritie
.
Of
the
ninth
article
they
saie
,
that
the
lawes
ecclesiasticall
wherewith
our
assemblies
are
guided
,
are
not
deriued
from
the
booke
of
God
,
but
culled
out
from
that
great
Antichrists
canons
,
orders
,
&
deuillish
pollicies
,
&c.
that
they
are
the
execrable
wares
of
Antichrist
statuts
of
Omry
,
&
not
to
be
receiued
or
obeied
of
anie
that
loue
the
Lord
Iesus
.
This
article
then
is
maintained
by
these
men
,
and
not
vniustly
imputed
to
them
.
But
as
touching
this
grieuous
accusation
,
we
are
here
also
to
call
to
minde
,
that
the
lawes
of
God
are
onely
perfect
,
the
decrees
and
statutes
of
men
,
though
holy
,
yet
haue
their
wants
.
In
regard
wherof
I
doe
acknowledge
a
want
of
perfection
,
but
the
deformitie
of
these
laws
doth
seeme
greater
,
partly
by
the
meanes
of
such
as
shoulde
dispose
them
more
vprightly
,
and
partly
by
reason
of
others
,
who
haue
a
malitious
eie
in
beholding
,
and
an
enuious
tongue
in
reproching
them
.
Vnto
the
tenth
article
,
they
answere
,
that
they
neither
looke
for
the
reformation
of
Babel
,
our
false
Church
,
for
so
they
tearme
it
,
nor
take
vpon
them
to
intermeddle
with
the
magistrates
swoord
:
but
all
that
will
bee
saued
,
must
forsake
the
false
church
,
and
by
repentance
come
vnder
Christs
obedience
to
serue
God
aright
in
his
true
church
,
&c.
Neither
may
they
neglect
the
seruice
of
GOD
,
nor
the
practise
of
any
parte
thereof
,
&c.
Though
the
Prince
shoulde
inhibite
,
&c.
So
that
they
affirme
,
that
of
their
owne
authority
they
are
not
only
to
separate
themselues
from
vs
,
but
also
to
prctaise
the
discipline
which
they
haue
fansied
,
though
her
maiestie
shoulde
inhibite
the
one
or
commaunde
the
other
:
so
that
this
article
is
not
wrongfully
fathered
vpon
them
.
But
before
this
article
be
granted
vnto
them
as
a
true
position
,
they
must
not
onelie
conuince
our
church
,
as
out
of
the
which
there
ought
to
be
a
departure
,
but
also
they
must
proue
that
a
priuate
man
may
attempt
reformation
in
the
church
,
contrarie
to
that
which
hath
bene
spoken
.
To
the
eleuenth
article
they
saie
,
first
that
the
presbyterie
may
not
excommunicate
any
person
by
their
sole
power
,
seeing
Christ
hath
giuen
this
power
to
the
whole
church
.
This
is
made
more
plaine
in
an
other
place
,
where
one
of
them
saith
,
that
the
least
member
of
the
church
that
is
a
communicant
hath
as
much
interest
in
all
the
censures
of
the
church
,
as
the
pastor
.
Secondly
,
they
affirme
that
the
prince
if
he
will
be
a
member
of
the
church
,
must
be
subiect
to
the
censure
in
the
church
.
The
which
two
positions
being
considered
,
it
shall
be
needlesse
to
open
what
these
men
would
haue
:
but
of
the
authoritie
of
a
priuat
man
hath
ben
spoken
sufficiently
heretofore
.
To
the
twelfth
they
answer
roundly
in
this
sort
,
as
for
your
religion
,
church
,
sacramentes
,
&c.
we
haue
before
shewed
the
forgerie
of
them
,
vnto
the
which
former
articles
I
referre
the
reader
.
Euen
so
do
I
,
for
I
purpose
not
palinodiam
can●re
:
onely
I
say
that
amongst
these
twelue
articles
there
is
not
one
,
wherewith
they
are
abused
or
vniustly
charged
,
and
therefore
are
their
exclamations
before
mentioned
vaine
.
There
are
in
the
ende
of
the
foresaid
pamphlet
other
twelue
articles
,
not
vnlike
to
the
former
,
which
they
tearme
slanderous
articles
also
forged
against
them
,
as
if
they
did
not
hold
them
,
which
are
these
.
1
THey
hold
that
the
Lords
praier
or
anie
set
praier
is
blasphemie
,
and
they
neuer
vse
anie
praier
for
the
Queene
,
as
supreame
head
vnder
Christ
of
the
church
of
England
.
2
That
all
set
praiers
or
stinted
praies
,
or
read
seruice
are
but
meere
babling
in
Gods
sight
,
and
plaine
Idolatrie
.
3
They
teach
there
is
no
head
or
supreame
gouernor
of
the
church
of
Christ
:
and
that
the
Queene
hath
none
authoritie
in
the
church
to
make
lawes
ecclesiasticall
.
4
They
teach
that
a
laie
man
may
beget
faith
;
and
that
we
haue
no
need
of
publike
administration
.
5
They
condemne
all
comming
to
Church
,
al
preaching
all
institution
of
Sacraments
,
and
saie
that
all
the
ministers
were
sent
by
God
in
his
anger
to
deceiue
the
people
.
6
They
affirme
that
the
people
must
reforme
the
church
and
not
tarie
for
the
magistrate
,
and
that
the
Primitiue
church
sued
not
to
courts
and
parliaments
,
nor
waited
vpon
princes
pleasures
:
but
we
make
Christ
to
attend
vppon
princes
,
&
to
be
subiect
to
their
laws
&
gouernment
.
7
That
the
booke
of
common
praier
is
a
pregnant
Idol
&
full
of
abhominations
,
a
peece
of
swines
flesh
,
and
abhomination
to
the
Lord
.
8
They
saie
it
is
a
greater
sinne
to
go
to
the
church
to
publik
praiers
,
then
for
a
man
to
lie
with
his
fathers
wife
9
Those
that
wil
not
refrain
from
our
churches
,
preaching
or
seruice
,
they
giue
vnto
the
deuil
&
excommunicat
.
10
They
hold
it
not
lawfull
to
baptise
children
among
vs
:
they
neuer
haue
anie
sacrament
among
them
.
11
They
refuse
to
take
an
oath
to
be
examined
.
12
They
will
not
marrie
amongst
vs
in
our
churches
,
but
resort
to
the
Fleet
&
to
other
places
to
bee
married
by
one
Greenwood
and
Barrow
.
All
which
,
whether
these
men
are
vniustly
blamed
with
them
,
or
do
hold
them
as
firme
as
they
do
the
former
Articles
,
I
leaue
vnto
the
consideration
of
all
men
.
Their
iudgement
concerning
the
two
first
articles
hath
bene
set
downe
alredie
;
for
they
do
little
differ
from
those
two
positions
set
downe
in
the
former
place
:
Likewise
concerning
the
third
article
,
we
haue
had
their
minde
in
the
eight
article
,
so
that
it
shall
be
needlesse
either
to
shew
again
that
those
are
by
their
desert
imputed
vnto
them
,
or
that
in
maintaining
them
their
warrants
be
of
smal
force
.
And
the
fourth
article
is
so
far
from
being
an
vngodly
calumniation
against
them
,
that
they
hold
it
not
only
a
possible
thing
for
a
priuate
man
to
beget
faith
,
but
also
lawfull
for
him
to
preach
the
word
&
interpret
the
scriptures
in
publike
assemblies
.
Wherin
a
question
might
be
moued
,
what
is
the
difference
betwene
him
that
is
Leitourgos
,
a
minister
of
Christ
in
their
publike
function
;
&
euery
priuate
man
in
the
congregation
,
both
hauing
equall
authoritie
,
as
well
in
preaching
,
as
in
the
censures
of
the
church
?
Also
,
what
these
priuate
men
are
to
be
esteemed
in
preaching
,
whether
ministers
,
or
no
ministers
vnto
the
people
whom
they
teach
?
mutuall
exhortations
I
grant
to
be
necessarie
amongst
the
people
of
God
,
wherby
the
faith
of
the
godly
may
be
encreased
;
whereof
is
mention
made
,
Act.
18.
26.
1.
Pet.
4.
10.
1.
Thess.
5.
11.
And
the
euils
in
others
might
be
restrained
;
wherof
Iames
speaketh
,
Cap.
5.
19.
20.
And
Paul
1.
Cor.
7.
16.
For
as
I
yeeld
vnto
the
author
of
this
discourse
,
that
these
fiue
places
of
scripture
do
proue
one
and
the
same
matter
,
so
I
hope
he
will
call
home
his
wits
,
&
grant
vnto
me
that
they
proue
not
a
preaching
in
the
publike
assemblie
,
considering
that
the
woman
,
of
whom
this
dutie
of
exhorting
is
required
,
1.
Cor.
7.
16.
is
not
allowed
to
speake
in
the
congregation
.
The
other
places
of
scriptures
alledged
,
viz.
Luk.
10.
and
1.
Cor.
14.
do
mention
a
publike
dealing
with
the
word
,
but
neither
were
the
70.
(
when
Christ
sent
forth
priuate
men
)
nor
yet
the
others
spoken
of
in
the
Corinthes
,
where
he
speaketh
not
of
all
the
faithfull
,
but
of
all
the
Prophets
;
as
master
Caluin
also
noteth
vpon
that
place
,
that
in
Luk.
8.
39.
Act.
8.
4.
and
11.
19.
can
make
nothing
for
this
matter
vntill
it
be
proued
that
the
men
there
mentioned
,
first
were
priuate
men
,
2.
executed
a
ministery
in
the
publike
assemblie
,
and
lastly
had
no
extraordinarie
sending
forth
.
The
place
of
Paul
Philip.
2.
verse
15.
and
16.
speaketh
not
of
preaching
,
but
of
the
conuersation
which
should
be
such
in
the
middest
of
a
froward
people
,
as
might
be
a
meanes
to
winne
them
without
the
word
,
who
had
no
care
of
the
word
.
The
other
place
,
1.
Pet.
3.
2.
pertaineth
nothing
to
the
matter
in
question
;
so
that
as
yet
it
remaineth
vnprooued
,
that
a
priuate
man
may
preach
in
the
congregation
.
Of
which
matter
Master
Caluin
speaketh
,
Instit.
lib.
4.
cap.
3.
sect.
10.
and
if
they
may
not
preach
,
then
can
they
not
beget
faith
;
for
none
can
be
called
to
the
true
faith
without
the
preaching
of
the
gospel
,
as
they
themselues
haue
affirmed
in
their
last
conference
with
Doctor
Andrewes
.
Therefore
this
is
not
a
slanderous
article
to
bring
them
into
hatred
vniustlie
,
but
a
blind
deuise
to
bring
confusion
into
the
church
.
The
fift
article
here
set
downe
and
the
seuenth
,
are
the
same
with
that
,
which
was
set
in
the
third
place
in
the
beginning
.
The
sixt
article
,
being
all
one
with
the
tenth
of
the
former
sort
,
hath
also
bene
considered
of
.
To
the
8.
article
they
saie
,
that
to
go
to
the
church
to
publike
praiers
,
is
a
high
sinne
against
the
first
table
;
which
being
but
a
begging
of
the
question
,
they
must
first
proue
our
worship
to
be
idolatrie
,
before
their
calumniation
is
to
be
harkened
vnto
.
To
the
ninth
they
say
,
that
they
iudge
not
them
that
are
without
,
but
those
that
hauing
left
all
false
assemblies
,
&c.
haue
ioyned
with
them
,
&c.
And
if
among
them
any
fall
into
error
,
them
do
they
excommunicate
.
As
here
is
no
slander
,
so
may
we
see
the
confusion
of
their
doctrine
,
and
their
practises
to
be
accordingly
.
First
,
the
priuate
man
hath
as
much
authoritie
in
the
censures
of
their
church
,
as
Pastor
,
Elder
,
or
any
other
.
Secondly
,
that
their
church
hath
authoritie
ouer
those
that
haue
ioyned
with
them
:
from
these
sweete
positions
haue
sprong
this
excellent
harmonie
,
that
euerie
man
presumeth
amongst
them
to
excommunicate
one
another
,
as
hath
bin
seene
,
and
is
dayly
manifest
,
both
in
the
Clinke
and
other
prisons
;
for
as
Theodoret
saith
▪
The
tenth
article
is
all
one
with
the
sixt
in
the
former
number
.
To
the
11
▪
they
say
,
that
they
refuse
not
an
oath
by
the
holy
name
of
God
,
2.
before
a
lawful
Magistrate
,
3.
vpon
iust
occasion
,
according
to
the
word
:
but
our
oathes
they
say
,
are
rash
and
vngodly
.
First
,
by
or
with
a
booke
.
Secondly
offred
&
enforced
by
the
Bishops
.
Thirdly
at
their
pleasure
vpon
euery
occasion
,
contrary
to
the
word
of
God
,
the
lawes
of
the
land
,
&
derogatorie
to
her
Maiesties
prerogatiue
royall
:
so
that
if
we
say
that
these
men
refuse
to
take
an
oath
according
to
the
laws
of
our
land
,
it
wil
appere
no
slander
.
Now
concerning
their
iudgment
,
we
agree
with
them
that
the
Lord
condemneth
all
false
,
rash
,
and
vngodly
oathes
:
that
is
,
such
oathes
as
are
in
matters
of
vntruth
,
in
things
of
small
importance
;
and
by
taking
any
other
to
witnesse
,
but
God
onely
:
for
the
which
may
be
alledged
,
Deut.
6.
13.
Ierem.
4.
2.
Heb.
6.
16.
and
many
others
.
Herein
we
dissent
,
first
that
they
seeme
to
allow
an
oath
before
a
magistrate
onely
,
wherein
they
condemne
the
deede
of
Iacob
and
Laban
,
Gen.
31.
53.
and
of
●oos
to
Ruth
,
Ruth
.
3.
13.
and
of
Obadia
to
Eliah
,
1.
Reg.
18.
10.
who
being
all
but
priuat
persons
,
yet
doe
confirme
with
an
oath
the
matters
in
question
betwene
them
.
Secondly
,
that
they
will
not
acknowledge
those
to
haue
authoritie
to
take
an
oath
,
to
whom
her
maiestie
hath
committed
the
same
.
Thirdly
,
that
they
condemne
the
forme
of
swearing
before
the
magistrate
,
which
by
the
laws
of
Englang
is
vsed
;
for
as
Abraham
in
vrging
his
seruant
Eleazar
to
sweare
Gen.
24.
2.
and
Iacob
taking
an
oath
of
Ioseph
Gen.
47.
29.
said
.
Put
thine
hand
vnder
my
thigh
(
a
ceremonie
vsed
among
the
Ethiopians
and
Indians
vntill
this
day
)
can
not
be
charged
to
haue
vsed
an
idolatrous
rite
,
inasmuch
as
the
oath
was
not
taken
by
the
thigh
,
but
by
the
God
of
heauen
and
the
creator
of
the
earth
:
so
likewise
the
hand
is
laid
vpon
the
booke
,
the
oath
is
not
vrged
to
be
taken
by
the
booke
,
but
by
him
,
whom
the
doctrine
of
that
booke
maketh
knowne
vnto
vs
;
of
both
which
rites
we
neede
not
feare
to
say
:
Prophanos
ritus
non
esse
,
qui
Dei
gloriae
quicquam
detraherent
;
quia
interponitur
Dei
nomen
,
&c.
Neither
do
the
places
of
Scripture
cited
infringe
this
:
for
Amo.
5.
4.
is
not
at
all
spoken
of
an
oath
,
but
generally
that
men
shoulde
seeke
out
that
which
is
good
and
not
euill
.
The
other
three
places
,
viz.
Zoph.
1.
5.
Matth.
5.
34.
and
23.
16.
disproue
not
an
outward
ceremony
in
an
oath
;
onely
Zephanie
telleth
that
God
condemneth
those
which
doe
outwardly
worshippe
Idols
though
they
keepe
the
heart
vnto
God
;
and
Christ
sheweth
that
God
is
onely
to
be
our
witnes
in
al
our
asseuerations
:
our
maner
of
taking
an
oth
is
not
against
it
.
The
other
calumniations
are
not
worth
the
answering
.
To
the
twelfth
they
say
,
that
the
action
of
matrimonie
is
●●erely
ciuill
,
therefore
lawfull
in
all
places
and
at
all
times
to
marrie
in
the
Lorde
by
the
consent
of
parents
;
denying
that
they
haue
married
anie
,
but
together
with
other
faithfull
,
haue
beene
witnesses
of
the
same
.
It
is
plaine
therefore
that
some
haue
bene
contracted
in
the
prison
,
and
married
,
and
they
haue
had
their
part
in
the
action
.
But
I
woulde
haue
these
men
to
consider
:
First
,
that
euerie
soule
inciuill
and
indifferent
matters
is
to
submit
himselfe
vnto
the
higher
powers
;
for
this
lesson
we
learne
of
Sainct
Paule
vnto
the
Romanes
the
thirteenth
chapter
and
the
first
verse
.
Secondly
,
that
marriage
is
a
matter
altogether
ciuill
:
for
this
these
men
acknowledge
.
Thirdly
,
that
her
maiestie
for
the
auoiding
of
inconueniences
,
hath
commanded
that
matrimonie
should
not
be
celebrated
but
in
the
publike
assemblies
;
as
by
the
lawes
of
our
lande
is
manifest
.
And
then
let
them
speake
,
and
shewe
vs
what
warrant
they
haue
from
God
,
or
comforte
to
their
consciences
in
these
vngodlie
and
disordered
marriages
.
Nowe
therefore
we
may
conclude
that
neither
the
twelue
positions
in
the
beginning
,
nor
the
twelue
articles
in
the
ende
of
this
first
treatise
,
are
forged
positions
,
slanderous
articles
and
vngodly
calumniations
considering
that
these
men
do
maintaine
them
:
but
so
wicked
assertions
,
that
it
may
bee
truely
said
of
the
teachers
of
them
.
Thou
doest
loue
euill
more
then
good
,
lies
more
then
to
speake
the
trueth
,
&c.
the
two
and
fiftith
Psalme
and
the
third
verse
.
There
is
a
thirteenth
article
,
whereof
they
greatly
glorie
,
that
it
hath
bene
passed
ouer
with
silence
,
that
neither
tithes
,
nor
set
liuings
are
a
matter
warrantable
in
the
word
of
God
;
the
one
being
Leuiticall
&
therfore
abrogated
,
the
other
without
stay
to
leane
vpon
in
the
Scriptures
,
and
therefore
to
be
taken
away
,
and
that
Christ
and
his
apostles
perswaded
〈◊〉
●●fficiencie
,
but
did
not
condition
for
anie
certaintie
.
To
whom
I
answere
,
that
if
a
sufficient
maintenance
is
to
be
had
for
the
ministerie
,
it
is
requisite
some
order
be
taken
for
them
how
they
may
come
by
it
:
for
if
it
be
left
to
the
discretion
of
men
,
it
will
be
short
enough
,
in
regard
whereof
the
Lorde
ordained
a
set
liuing
for
the
Leuites
,
not
in
the
example
of
Michah
his
Leuit
,
with
whom
these
men
do
sport
themselues
,
but
in
his
ordinance
of
tithes
,
&c.
which
as
they
were
ceremoniall
to
them
that
paid
them
,
being
instructed
therby
that
the
increase
of
al
thing
is
of
God
to
whom
praise
is
due
for
the
same
:
so
to
them
that
receaued
the
same
it
was
a
meanes
,
wherby
the
certainty
of
their
maintenance
might
be
had
.
And
this
was
not
left
to
the
discretion
of
the
people
,
but
euery
man
was
appointed
what
to
pay
.
Do
ye
not
know
(
saith
Paule
)
that
they
which
minister
about
the
holie
things
,
eat
of
the
things
of
the
temple
,
&
they
which
waite
at
the
altar
are
partakers
of
the
altar
?
He
proceedeth
in
applying
this
vnto
the
ministerie
of
the
Gospell
:
So
also
hath
the
Lord
ordeined
,
that
they
which
preach
the
Gospell
should
liue
of
the
Gospell
.
Therefore
as
vnder
the
law
there
was
a
sette
maintenance
for
the
priest
:
so
vnder
the
Gospel
there
may
be
the
like
for
the
ministers
thereof
,
except
we
coulde
finde
the
people
better
affected
nowe
,
then
they
were
at
that
time
vnto
the
ministerie
.
They
are
to
rest
vpon
the
good
will
of
the
breethren
,
say
they
.
But
how
is
this
proued
?
For
to
speake
without
warrant
of
the
worde
in
teaching
innouation
is
fondnesse
.
But
I
know
that
it
will
be
sooner
granted
to
the
minister
to
haue
a
certaine
stay
of
liuing
,
then
that
he
shoulde
haue
the
same
in
tithes
,
for
that
was
ceremoniall
,
and
therefore
to
continue
it
,
is
to
deny
Christ
to
be
come
in
the
flesh
.
I
answer
that
the
paying
of
tiths
was
ceremoniall
,
but
there
was
an
other
vse
of
them
also
:
so
was
the
temple
ceremoniall
,
wherein
the
people
assembled
together
vnto
the
worshippe
of
God
.
Now
if
any
man
should
vse
the
temples
(
I
meane
the
places
of
praier
)
or
the
paying
of
tithes
as
ceremoniall
,
it
were
a
deniall
of
the
abrogation
of
the
ceremoniall
lawe
,
but
the
temple
hauing
an
other
vse
,
namely
,
that
it
might
be
a
conuenient
place
for
the
people
to
meete
in
for
the
exercise
of
the
worde
,
&c.
which
is
not
ceremoniall
,
it
is
no
denying
that
Christ
is
come
in
the
flesh
,
though
in
this
respect
we
do
continue
this
vse
of
them
,
so
the
tithes
being
not
onely
ceremoniall
,
but
hauing
this
vse
also
that
the
ministerie
might
be
maintained
,
no
such
iniurie
is
offred
vnto
Christ
in
the
retaining
of
them
for
this
ende
onely
.
And
thus
this
glorious
article
may
goe
together
with
his
fellowes
,
all
of
them
deseruing
glorie
alike
.
A
SHORT
ANSWERE
VNTO
CERTAINE
ARGVMENTS
WHICH
are
vsed
by
the
Brownists
,
to
proue
the
Church
of
England
not
to
be
the
true
Church
of
God
.
IN
the
end
of
the
second
booke
of
their
conferences
,
there
is
added
a
short
treatise
,
as
the
summe
of
those
matters
,
which
in
the
conferences
are
said
to
haue
bene
handled
:
the
manner
of
which
discourse
is
this
.
In
the
toppe
of
the
page
this
scripture
is
prefixed
.
Brownist
.
The
righteous
men
they
shall
iudge
them
after
the
maner
of
harlots
,
&
after
the
maner
of
murtherers
,
for
that
they
are
harlots
,
and
blood
is
in
their
hands
.
Ezec.
23.
45.
Answere
.
For
as
much
as
it
not
expressed
wherfore
this
place
of
Scripture
is
heere
placed
,
I
will
adde
this
vnto
it
:
leauing
the
application
of
it
vnto
them
,
that
vnderstande
the
meaning
of
the
former
.
Thus
saith
the
Lorde
God
,
because
that
Moab
and
Seir
doe
say
,
beholde
the
house
of
Iuda
is
like
vnto
all
the
heathen
,
therefore
beholde
I
will
open
the
side
of
Moab
,
euen
of
the
cities
of
his
cities
;
I
say
,
in
his
frontiers
,
with
the
pleasaunt
countrie
Beth-ieshimoth
Baalmeòn
and
Kariathaim
.
I
will
call
the
men
of
the
East
against
the
Ammonites
,
and
will
giue
them
in
possession
,
so
that
the
Ammonites
shall
no
more
bee
remembred
among
the
nations
,
and
will
execute
iudgementes
vpon
Moab
,
and
they
shall
know
that
I
am
the
Lorde
.
Ezech.
25.
vers
.
8.
9.
10.
11.
Brownist
.
Before
we
can
iudge
of
the
false
church
,
it
is
expedient
,
that
we
discerne
the
true
church
,
&c.
Answere
.
Here
is
confirmed
that
which
was
spoken
pag.
11.
viz.
that
the
matters
mentioned
in
that
treatise
are
so
necessarily
required
,
that
the
want
of
anie
of
them
taketh
away
the
esse
of
the
church
:
for
here
in
a
fewe
lines
is
knit
vp
,
that
which
more
at
large
was
then
deliuered
:
yet
some
things
at
the
first
not
thought
vppon
,
are
here
added
.
And
both
the
old
and
new
matters
iointly
and
seuerally
are
propounded
,
as
hauing
strength
sufficient
to
ouerthrow
not
our
church
only
,
but
all
others
also
that
are
not
framed
,
according
to
their
rule
.
I
will
answere
them
therefore
in
that
order
,
which
the
author
hath
vsed
in
drawing
these
matters
into
arguments
.
The
first
argument
of
theirs
is
this
.
Brownist
.
Their
church
consisteth
not
of
a
companie
of
faithfull
people
,
Answere
.
Seeing
the
propositions
both
of
this
and
the
arguments
following
are
set
downe
before
it
should
seme
that
of
purpose
they
are
nowe
omitted
;
yet
to
make
the
matter
plaine
,
the
argument
is
after
this
manner
.
The
true
planted
and
right
established
church
of
Christ
is
a
company
of
faithful
people
,
but
the
church
of
Englande
is
not
a
companie
of
faithfull
people
.
Therefore
not
a
true
planted
and
rightly
established
church
.
Whereunto
I
answere
,
that
the
assumption
is
with
great
insolency
set
downe
,
as
if
magistrates
,
ministers
&
people
were
without
exception
of
any
,
a
flocke
of
goates
,
a
companie
of
hell
hounds
.
Likewise
the
proposition
sauoreth
of
Anabaptistry
,
whiles
it
admitteth
none
to
be
members
of
the
visible
church
,
but
faithfull
people
onely
.
But
concerning
the
assumption
,
I
grant
,
that
some
of
Cain
his
brood
,
of
Cham
his
conditions
and
of
Esau
his
qualities
,
are
in
our
church
,
euen
as
there
are
amongst
these
persecuted
Christians
some
of
the
schollers
of
Shimei
,
some
of
Corah
his
company
,
some
Ismaels
,
&c.
Herein
is
the
difference
betweene
their
church
and
ours
,
that
we
account
of
such
beastes
as
they
are
,
though
wee
labour
by
the
worde
and
other
meanes
to
bring
them
vnto
repentance
;
but
if
their
Atheists
can
but
say
that
discipline
is
good
(
though
they
knowe
not
what
it
meaneth
)
if
they
wil
heaue
at
magistracy
,
&
raile
vpon
the
established
gouernement
,
they
must
be
presently
canonized
&
registred
in
the
booke
of
the
faithfull
,
whatsoeuer
their
conditions
are
otherwise
.
In
the
proposition
I
see
nothing
which
hath
not
beene
answered
pag.
12.
&c.
only
here
are
certaine
scriptures
cited
in
the
margent
,
so
farre
from
proouing
the
matter
in
question
,
that
if
they
be
vnderstoode
of
euery
member
of
the
visible
church
,
to
prooue
them
faithfull
,
we
may
with
as
good
reason
from
the
same
places
conclude
,
that
neither
the
publike
ministerie
,
nor
priuat
admonitions
are
to
be
vsed
in
the
visible
church
,
for
these
are
the
wordes
of
Ieremie
:
And
they
shall
teach
no
more
euerie
man
his
neighbour
,
and
euerie
man
his
brother
saying
,
knowe
the
Lorde
,
for
they
shall
all
knowe
me
from
the
least
of
them
to
the
greatest
of
them
,
saith
the
Lord
,
for
I
will
forgiue
their
iniquitie
,
&c.
Brownist
.
They
haue
made
no
separation
from
the
heathen
of
the
lande
,
but
all
are
receaued
and
retained
in
the
bosome
of
their
churches
,
therefore
,
&c.
Answer
.
This
is
the
argument
.
The
true
church
is
a
company
of
people
separated
from
the
vnbeleeuers
,
&
heathen
of
the
lande
,
but
the
church
of
Englande
hath
made
no
separatlon
,
&c.
therefore
,
&c.
The
proposition
is
denied
,
if
such
a
separation
be
vnderstoode
as
is
spoken
of
Matth.
25.
32.
as
hath
bin
proued
pag.
11.
12.
&c.
but
if
they
take
it
,
as
it
is
in
the
place
by
them selues
alleaged
,
Leuit.
20.
24.
we
do
grant
it
:
for
Israell
is
there
said
to
be
separated
from
that
heathen
,
yet
was
it
not
separated
from
all
vnbeleeuers
,
onely
it
was
in
respect
of
their
outward
profession
.
The
assumption
in
the
former
sence
is
granted
,
but
otherwise
it
is
euident
to
be
a
meere
slander
,
for
neither
are
any
receaued
into
our
church
,
except
they
ioyne
with
vs
in
outward
profession
,
neither
are
their
children
baptized
,
except
the
parents
,
or
some
for
the
parents
do
promise
to
see
them
brought
vppe
in
the
knowledge
of
God
,
and
faith
in
Christ
Iesus
.
But
they
proue
this
assumption
after
this
sort
:
They
were
all
(
say
they
)
by
the
blowing
of
her
maiesties
trumpet
at
her
coronation
,
Before
I
make
answere
vnto
this
assertion
,
I
would
learne
(
if
I
might
)
how
these
men
would
haue
the
people
to
come
vnto
an
established
church
at
the
first
.
For
they
tel
vs
,
1.
That
there
can
be
no
true
church
,
vntill
euerie
member
therof
hath
by
faith
and
repentance
separated
himselfe
from
the
vnbeleeuers
.
But
how
shall
they
come
vnto
this
faith
?
for
they
tell
vs
also
,
2.
That
none
can
haue
true
faith
and
repentance
,
but
such
as
are
called
thereunto
by
the
preaching
of
the
gospel
.
And
how
shall
they
haue
this
Gospel
preached
vnto
them
?
3.
There
must
be
sheepe
before
there
can
be
a
flocke
;
there
must
be
a
flocke
before
there
can
be
a
shepheard
,
because
the
people
must
choose
their
Pastor
:
so
that
they
affirme
that
the
people
must
be
brought
to
the
faith
,
before
they
can
haue
a
Pastor
,
and
yet
they
cannot
haue
faith
without
preaching
.
Which
way
then
shall
this
preaching
be
had
,
for
the
attaining
vnto
faith
?
The
Magistrate
(
say
they
)
ought
to
compel
the
Infidels
to
heare
the
doctrine
of
the
church
,
and
also
with
the
approbation
of
the
church
to
send
forth
meete
men
,
with
gifts
and
graces
to
instruct
the
Infidels
,
being
yet
no
ministers
,
or
officers
vnto
them
:
but
in
the
time
of
Poperie
,
they
affirme
that
the
people
could
not
be
the
church
;
&
therefore
I
would
be
resolued
in
these
two
points
:
First
where
the
magistrate
in
such
a
case
shuld
haue
a
church
to
giue
consent
vnto
his
sending
forth
of
such
teachers
to
instruct
infidels
?
And
thus
haue
they
led
vs
about
,
&
haue
brought
vs
to
the
same
place
where
we
were
at
the
first
.
And
secondly
what
they
are
,
which
thus
are
sent
by
the
magistrate
and
the
church
,
if
not
ministers
of
the
word
vnto
those
infidels
whom
they
teach
?
and
herein
we
require
an
answere
by
the
word
.
Now
to
our
assertion
,
concerning
our
turning
from
Poperie
at
the
blowing
of
her
maiesties
trumpet
.
I
doubt
not
but
this
will
be
graunted
,
that
some
of
Q.
Maries
subiects
beleeued
,
and
made
a
bold
confession
of
their
faith
,
who
to
the
ioye
of
all
christian
hearts
in
the
lande
,
remaine
in
our
church
vntill
this
daie
.
Others
there
were
like
vnto
Nichodemus
in
his
comming
to
Christ
by
night
,
and
in
his
faint
defending
of
the
truth
(
who
if
the
Lord
should
for
our
vnthankfulnes
send
a
scourge
)
wold
with
Nichodemus
make
a
bolde
confession
of
their
loue
to
Christ
Iesus
.
So
that
all
were
not
Pagans
that
embraced
the
Gospell
at
the
sounding
of
her
maiesties
trumpet
,
Brownist
.
They
are
not
gathered
in
the
name
of
Christ
,
but
in
the
name
of
Antichrist
whom
they
obey
,
as
shall
afterward
appeare
,
Therefore
,
&c.
Answere
.
The
Argument
is
this
.
The
true
church
is
gathered
in
the
name
of
Christ
,
but
the
church
of
England
is
not
,
&c.
Therefore
not
the
true
church
.
The
proposition
is
granted
;
the
Assumption
is
denied
,
in
asmuch
as
we
do
renounce
the
doctrine
,
gouernment
,
&
worship
of
Antichrist
;
as
shal
be
shewed
in
the
places
where
they
labor
to
proue
the
contrary
.
Brownist
.
They
worship
not
God
truely
,
but
after
a
false
and
idolatrus
manner
,
as
witnesseth
their
Popish
liturgie
,
their
stinted
booke
of
common
praiers
,
Therefore
,
&c.
The
Argument
standeth
this
.
The
true
church
worshipeth
God
truely
,
Therefore
it
is
no
true
church
.
I
grant
the
proposition
,
&
yet
with
this
caueat
,
that
not
euery
member
of
the
visible
church
performeth
this
dutie
,
and
that
the
true
worship
of
God
,
offered
vnto
him
by
man
,
thorough
the
frailtie
of
man
is
not
without
great
wants
.
The
matter
of
the
assumption
hath
bene
dealt
in
,
And
they
receiue
not
,
nor
obey
not
Christ
as
their
king
,
priest
,
and
prophet
,
Therefore
,
&c.
This
argument
is
diuided
into
three
seuerall
parts
in
this
manner
.
Not
as
their
king
,
reiecting
his
gouernement
,
and
receiuing
and
standing
vnder
the
antichristian
yoke
of
their
Popish
gruernment
,
Therefore
,
&c.
The
force
of
the
reason
is
this
.
The
true
church
obeyeth
Christ
as
her
king
,
and
reteineth
his
gouernement
;
but
the
church
of
England
doth
not
,
Therefore
no
true
church
.
We
are
to
remember
that
the
question
is
of
outward
gouernment
,
which
hath
bene
shewed
pag.
25.
not
to
be
the
life
of
the
church
,
but
the
word
onely
:
Herevnto
we
ad
their
own
confession
,
that
the
true
church
may
be
without
sacraments
,
which
we
hold
as
necessarie
as
outward
gouernment
.
But
we
are
here
charged
with
a
double
crime
,
viz.
with
the
casting
of
Christs
gouernment
,
and
with
the
receiuing
the
yoke
of
Antichrist
.
To
the
first
whereof
,
I
answere
,
that
if
pastors
,
Doctors
and
Elders
,
and
Deacons
be
the
gouernement
of
Christ
,
we
haue
it
;
in
as
much
as
the
matter
required
in
all
these
offices
is
retained
with
vs
;
if
these
be
abused
by
men
,
it
is
not
sufficient
to
proue
that
we
haue
them
not
at
all
,
if
strife
be
about
the
changing
of
the
names
,
wise
men
will
condemne
it
for
follie
.
To
the
second
I
answere
,
that
her
maiestie
is
supreame
gouernesse
ouer
vs
in
all
causes
both
ecclesiasticall
and
ciuill
;
and
therefore
hath
authoritie
to
appoint
such
gouernors
,
to
confirme
that
gouernment
,
which
(
being
not
contrarie
vnto
Gods
word
)
shall
seeme
meete
vnto
hir
.
Nowe
this
gouernement
which
we
haue
,
else
where
is
shewed
to
haue
bene
for
the
preseruation
of
discipline
and
auoiding
confusion
,
before
the
time
that
Antichrist
bare
sway
in
the
church
.
I
grant
that
afterward
he
abused
it
,
so
did
he
many
other
matters
:
and
yet
they
are
not
to
be
counted
Antichristian
(
hauing
not
their
beginning
of
him
)
when
they
are
restored
vnto
their
first
vse
.
But
this
one
calumniation
bringeth
foorth
these
fruites
:
First
,
in
teaching
that
euery
priuat
man
hath
authority
in
the
election
of
ecclesiasticall
gouernors
,
or
else
the
gouernement
is
Antichristian
,
the
priuat
man
is
taught
to
intrude
into
her
highnesse
right
,
to
whome
this
matter
was
granted
by
Act
of
Parlement
,
1.
Eliz.
1.
Againe
,
in
disswading
from
the
obedience
of
this
authority
,
the
commandement
of
God
is
made
no
commandement
.
Ro.
13.
1.
which
willeth
that
euery
soule
be
subiect
vnto
the
higher
powers
.
And
as
Absolon
with
Dauid
,
so
do
these
men
deale
with
her
maiesty
,
in
seeking
to
alienate
the
harts
of
good
subiects
from
her
,
by
crying
out
against
her
gouernment
,
promising
better
things
if
they
be
harkned
vnto
,
that
men
might
be
brought
to
ioyne
in
their
rebellions
.
We
shun
the
Iesuites
,
who
from
house
to
house
do
labour
to
draw
the
people
into
a
loathing
of
their
present
estate
,
this
natiue
schisme
is
so
muche
the
more
to
bee
looked
vnto
,
as
it
commeth
with
a
greater
shew
of
godlinesse
,
and
yet
indeuoreth
to
worke
confusion
,
by
these
Iesuiticall
proceedings
.
Brownist
.
Not
as
their
Priest
,
sacrilegiously
prophaning
his
name
with
their
idolatrie
,
prostituting
his
blood
,
and
making
him
a
Priest
and
sacrifice
to
infidels
,
and
the
most
wicked
offenders
.
Answere
.
The
Argument
is
thus
.
The
true
church
receiueth
Christ
as
their
Priest
,
but
the
church
of
England
doth
not
,
because
it
prophaneth
his
name
,
&c.
Therefore
no
true
church
.
The
assumtion
is
false
,
for
the
doctrin
of
our
church
is
,
that
Christ
is
the
onely
Priest
,
who
by
his
owne
blood
entred
in
once
into
the
holy
place
,
and
obtained
eternall
redemption
for
vs
?
and
therefore
that
men
should
walke
worthy
of
so
holy
a
calling
as
Christ
hath
vouchsafed
to
set
them
in
;
neither
in
their
worshipping
of
God
,
prophaning
his
name
;
not
by
their
vngodlinesse
abusing
his
sacraments
,
wherein
the
practise
by
our
church
commanded
is
,
that
prophane
&
vngodly
men
be
repelled
from
the
same
.
It
is
not
therfore
a
matter
to
be
generally
laid
vnto
the
charge
of
the
whole
church
,
that
they
prophane
his
name
,
&c.
I
grant
indeed
that
the
Pastor
may
thorow
ignorance
,
negligence
,
or
some
other
euill
occasion
deliuer
the
sactament
to
an
vnworthy
man
,
which
as
it
is
a
sinne
in
the
receiuer
,
so
may
it
be
as
great
a
sinne
in
the
deliuerer
,
yet
will
this
be
a
weake
reason
to
conuince
the
whole
church
of
prostituting
the
blood
of
Christ
,
denying
his
priesthood
,
prophaning
his
name
,
&c.
seing
that
Iudas
was
partaker
of
the
supper
of
the
Lord
,
and
yet
the
whole
companie
were
not
polluted
thereby
.
Brownist
.
Not
as
their
prophet
,
giuing
no
obedience
to
his
word
,
vsing
it
as
a
mantell
to
couer
their
sinne
,
rather
then
as
a
rule
wherby
to
direct
their
liues
,
not
seeking
a
true
ministerie
,
but
maintaining
a
false
;
of
which
sort
the
whole
ministererie
of
the
land
is
,
which
are
permitted
to
teach
in
their
publike
places
,
to
whom
they
giue
eare
.
Answere
.
The
Argument
is
this
.
The
true
church
receiueth
Christ
as
her
prophet
,
but
the
church
of
England
doth
not
,
&c.
Therefore
,
&c.
The
assumption
of
which
argument
they
proue
thus
.
First
,
because
the
church
of
England
giueth
no
obedience
to
his
word
.
Secondly
,
because
they
vse
it
as
a
mantle
to
couer
their
sinne
:
and
thirdlie
because
they
seeke
not
a
true
ministerie
but
maintaine
a
false
.
It
hath
heretofore
bene
granted
,
that
the
best
churches
haue
had
some
bad
members
in
them
,
whereof
some
in
Athiesme
despised
the
word
,
&
others
in
hipocrisie
made
it
a
cloake
to
couer
their
vngodlinesse
,
wherein
the
church
of
England
goeth
not
scotfree
;
but
for
the
wickednes
of
some
to
condeme
the
whole
were
verie
hard
;
and
so
sharpely
to
censure
all
,
were
intollerable
.
Yet
these
men
do
it
,
when
they
affirme
that
no
obedience
is
giuen
to
the
word
:
as
if
all
from
the
highest
to
the
lowest
were
infidels
and
pagans
,
without
God
,
without
the
knowledge
of
his
word
,
without
conscience
in
any
thing
,
without
the
feare
of
God
.
This
is
the
meeknesse
of
an
arrogant
spirit
.
The
bull
sent
by
Pope
Pius
the
fift
to
cursse
her
Maieiestie
&
the
land
,
was
not
vnlike
vnto
it
;
the
calumniation
is
the
same
in
both
,
and
therefore
master
Iewell
hath
framed
an
answere
meete
for
both
.
Now
as
touching
our
ministery
which
is
set
as
the
third
argument
of
our
disobedience
;
the
defects
therof
are
noted
to
be
either
in
their
election
,
or
in
their
subiection
to
a
false
gouernement
.
Their
election
and
ordination
(
say
they
)
are
not
by
the
Lords
holy
and
free
people
.
This
hath
bene
answered
pag.
45.
Also
they
are
made
in
nubibus
(
say
they
)
but
if
these
factioners
had
not
made
their
owne
ministers
in
tenebris
,
they
might
with
lesse
impudencie
haue
blamed
the
making
of
ours
.
at
her
maiesties
entrance
vnto
the
crowne
our
ministers
were
set
ouer
the
people
without
an
outward
calling
.
Wherein
I
will
not
oppose
the
ministerie
of
Luther
and
Caluin
,
whose
ministerie
they
cannot
deny
to
be
warrantable
,
pag.
53.
of
their
booke
,
and
yet
they
had
not
a
better
calling
then
our
men
had
;
but
I
dare
auouch
the
calling
of
our
men
vnto
the
ministerie
at
the
entring
in
of
her
maiestie
vnto
the
crowne
,
to
be
the
selfe
same
that
euen
our
aduersaries
haue
warranted
,
pag.
59.
of
the
aforesaid
treatise
,
viz.
the
magistrate
did
send
them
to
instruct
the
vnbeleeuers
:
but
(
say
they
)
they
were
no
ministers
vnto
them
.
Then
let
them
tell
vs
what
other
ministerie
this
might
be
,
and
what
warrant
they
haue
for
it
in
the
word
,
or
else
they
giue
vs
iust
cause
to
complaine
that
they
are
filled
with
conceites
.
Now
the
gouernement
vnder
the
which
they
execute
their
ministerie
is
such
,
the
Queene
and
Parliament
do
wickedly
in
giuing
this
authoritie
vnto
the
Bishops
,
which
they
haue
committed
vnto
them
:
the
same
is
published
by
his
owne
procurement
vnto
the
view
of
all
men
,
who
reading
it
,
and
considering
of
it
,
may
see
the
dealings
of
master
Barrow
,
I
say
no
more
.
But
to
make
an
end
with
this
Argument
,
notwithstanding
all
the
exceptions
afore
said
,
the
Church
of
England
acknowledgeth
Christ
as
their
Prophet
,
and
for
conscience
sake
doth
reuerence
gods
word
taught
by
the
ministerie
thereof
,
from
the
which
who
so
turneth
away
his
eare
,
euen
his
prayers
are
abhominable
,
Pro.
28.
9.
And
also
the
sacraments
deliuered
by
them
,
considering
that
God
hath
ioyned
them
as
seales
vnto
his
word
;
whereof
hath
bene
spoken
,
pag.
27.
Brownist
.
Their
people
are
not
knit
togither
as
members
ech
of
other
in
one
congregation
,
but
both
roue
,
and
goe
,
assemble
&
depart
at
their
pleasure
when
they
will
,
whether
they
will
,
and
as
they
wil
themselues
,
as
also
liue
in
continual
disorder
.
Answere
.
The
Argument
is
this
.
The
true
church
is
ioyned
togither
as
members
of
one
bodie
,
but
the
church
of
England
is
not
,
but
doth
roue
and
go
,
&c.
Therefore
,
&c.
In
the
proposition
I
finde
these
absurdlties
,
first
that
the
visible
church
is
tyed
to
be
all
of
one
assemblie
or
congregation
,
in
which
respect
the
diuision
of
our
church
into
seuerall
parishes
,
is
an
eye-sore
vnto
them
.
Secondly
,
that
the
inordinate
proceedings
of
some
in
the
church
,
should
proue
a
nullitie
of
the
church
;
as
if
the
losse
or
vnsoundnesse
of
a
member
could
take
away
the
esse
from
the
bodie
.
Thirdly
,
that
the
spiritual
vnion
of
the
member
in
the
whole
church
is
so
required
in
euerie
seuerall
assemblie
,
as
if
it
were
as
great
a
sin
for
a
man
to
depart
from
one
assemblie
vnto
another
,
as
to
dismember
himselfe
altogither
from
the
whole
bodie
,
which
is
the
church
.
Al
which
are
so
grosse
,
that
a
censurer
doth
better
become
them
,
then
a
confuter
.
As
for
our
church
the
disorders
therein
are
too
many
,
yet
were
they
exceeding
and
intollerable
if
they
were
so
generall
,
as
this
accuser
thereof
hath
auouched
,
viz.
amongst
all
men
,
at
all
times
and
in
all
their
actions
:
but
an
Orator
can
doe
much
in
perswading
,
and
a
slanderer
will
do
more
in
abusing
.
Brownist
.
Their
parishes
are
not
ordered
&
gouerned
by
such
officers
as
Christ
hath
appointed
to
his
church
,
haue
no
true
pastors
,
teachers
,
elders
,
deacons
,
releeuers
,
but
in
stead
of
these
they
remaine
most
seruilely
subiect
to
the
Antichristian
gouernement
of
their
Popishe
Archbishops
,
Bishops
,
Chancellors
,
Archdeacons
,
Deacons
,
Commissaries
,
Doctors
,
proctors
,
aduocats
,
notaries
,
registers
,
pursuiuants
,
cursitors
,
summoners
,
&c.
and
from
the
Apostolicall
seat
of
the
Bishops
,
they
receaue
an
Antichristian
and
a
false
ministery
,
as
their
parsons
,
vicars
,
curats
,
hirelings
,
lecturers
,
mercenary
preachers
,
&c.
which
together
with
this
people
stande
bounde
and
subiect
to
these
bishops
,
and
their
popish
courtes
,
of
high
commission
,
of
faculties
,
of
arches
,
of
prerogatiue
,
of
delegates
,
of
their
commissaries
,
&c.
Therefore
&c.
Answere
.
The
argument
is
this
.
The
true
church
is
ordered
by
such
officers
and
and
lawes
,
as
Christ
in
his
last
wil
and
testament
hath
thereunto
ordained
.
But
the
church
of
England
is
not
ordered
thus
,
Therefore
&c.
The
first
argument
hath
beene
infringed
pag.
25.
where
it
was
proued
that
outwarde
discipline
is
not
the
life
of
the
church
,
also
pag.
26.
&
70.
where
it
was
shewed
that
doctors
&
widdows
were
not
necessarie
in
euery
congregation
.
Wherunto
I
adde
this
,
that
although
a
gouernement
by
elders
,
&c.
was
established
in
some
churches
in
the
Apostles
times
,
yet
as
pag.
62.
hath
beene
said
,
it
remaineth
as
yet
vnproued
,
that
this
gouernement
is
to
remaine
vnchangeable
in
all
ages
:
they
tell
vs
that
Christ
was
as
faithfull
in
his
house
as
Moses
was
,
I
grant
it
,
yea
and
more
faithfull
.
Therfore
(
say
they
)
he
hath
set
downe
an
outward
gouernement
as
well
as
Moses
did
.
This
also
will
I
grant
them
,
yet
remaineth
a
third
matter
,
viz.
that
the
Brownistes
cast
their
heades
together
againe
,
and
describe
this
gouernement
better
then
as
yet
they
haue
done
,
and
proue
out
of
Gods
word
not
onely
what
it
is
,
but
that
it
is
necessarily
to
be
had
in
al
ages
alike
,
yea
and
that
the
want
of
it
doth
conuince
a
people
to
be
no
true
church
vnto
God
.
All
which
being
once
performed
,
their
proposition
shall
be
granted
.
The
second
part
of
this
argument
is
confirmed
by
these
foure
circumstances
that
wee
haue
no
true
pastors
,
whereof
hath
bene
spoken
very
oft
.
Secondly
,
that
the
gouernement
by
Archbishops
&c.
is
antichristian
.
A
matter
answered
pag.
110.
but
in
affirming
our
gouernement
to
be
in
the
power
of
proctors
,
aduocates
,
notaries
,
registers
,
pursuiuants
,
summoners
,
&c.
whom
these
euill
tongued
men
,
doe
know
to
haue
no
authority
in
hearing
of
causes
&
giuing
sentence
,
bewraieth
the
corruption
of
their
harts
.
Thirdly
,
that
our
ministery
is
antichristian
a
matter
handled
,
pag.
125.
the
scurrilitie
in
calling
them
hirelings
,
mercenary
preachers
,
&c.
deserueth
no
answer
;
the
names
of
parson
,
vicar
,
&c.
doth
not
make
a
difference
in
the
ministery
,
but
in
their
maintenance
.
Fourthly
,
we
are
subiect
to
the
popish
courtes
,
as
high
commission
&c.
wherunto
I
answer
that
al
these
courts
haue
their
authority
from
her
maiesty
,
though
some
of
them
more
directly
then
the
other
.
In
consideration
wherof
,
to
call
the
lest
antichristian
is
arrogant
,
but
to
ioine
them
all
in
one
sentence
,
&
to
disswade
her
maiesties
subiects
from
yeelding
obedience
vnto
any
of
them
,
it
will
be
found
an
act
of
no
good
subiect
:
yet
for
mine
owne
parte
I
purpose
not
to
giue
iudgement
in
the
matter
,
I
leaue
it
to
such
as
are
acquainted
with
the
law
,
onely
I
will
propound
the
case
,
which
is
this
.
The
high
court
of
Parlement
hath
agreed
that
the
queene
,
her
hignes
&
successors
,
kings
&
queenes
of
this
realme
,
shall
haue
full
power
by
letters
pattents
vnder
the
great
seale
,
to
name
and
authorise
when
,
as
often
,
and
for
so
long
time
as
her
highnes
,
her
heires
or
successors
shall
thinke
meete
such
person
or
persons
as
she
or
they
shal
thinke
meet
to
execute
vnder
her
,
&c.
all
manner
iurisdictions
,
priuileges
,
and
preheminences
in
any
wise
concerning
any
spirituall
iurisdiction
within
England
and
Ireland
,
&c.
1.
Eliz.
1.
Now
her
maiestie
by
the
authoritie
aforesaid
hath
graunted
her
letters
pattentes
vnder
the
great
seale
for
the
two
courts
of
high
commission
and
delegates
.
And
by
the
said
authority
first
from
the
Parlement
,
and
then
from
her
maiestie
these
two
courtes
doe
stande
,
and
not
by
any
other
right
or
authoritie
whatsoeuer
:
yet
these
two
courts
of
high
commission
and
of
delegates
are
here
tearmed
popishe
and
antichristian
courts
,
and
the
people
are
condemned
to
be
antichristian
,
which
yeelde
obedience
vnto
them
.
This
therefore
is
the
case
.
Whether
it
toucheth
her
maiesty
or
not
,
that
libels
railing
vpon
,
and
calling
her
highnes
authority
(
which
is
warranted
by
her
broad
seale
)
popish
,
antichristian
,
&c.
Brownist
.
These
assemblies
are
not
ruled
by
the
old
and
new
testament
,
but
by
the
canons
,
iniunctions
and
decrees
of
those
antichristian
and
popish
courts
:
therefore
&c.
Answere
.
The
Argument
is
this
.
The
true
church
is
ruled
by
the
old
and
new
testament
,
but
the
church
of
Englande
is
not
&c.
Therefore
&c.
If
Christ
hath
in
his
last
will
set
down
a
perfect
gouernment
for
his
church
(
as
they
say
he
hath
)
there
is
little
vse
of
the
olde
Testament
for
direction
of
discipline
vnder
the
Gospell
.
But
this
Argument
being
in
effect
the
same
with
the
former
,
needeth
no
other
answere
then
it
had
.
Brownist
.
These
people
stand
not
in
&
for
their
Christian
libertie
,
but
all
of
them
remaine
in
bondage
to
these
Aegyptian
and
Babylonishe
yoakes
,
yeelding
obedience
vnto
these
courts
,
and
their
canons
.
Therefore
,
&c.
Answere
.
The
Argument
is
this
.
All
and
euerie
of
the
true
Church
stand
in
and
for
their
christian
libertie
,
to
practise
whatsoeuer
God
hath
commanded
them
,
&c.
But
in
the
church
of
England
they
stande
not
for
their
christian
libertie
,
Therefore
,
&c.
Answere
.
We
haue
seene
pag.
49.
&
50.
that
the
priuate
man
doth
passe
the
bondes
of
his
calling
in
presuming
to
deale
with
publike
reformation
.
Againe
,
it
was
sayde
pag.
45.
that
in
the
visible
church
it
doth
not
alwaies
fall
out
,
that
euerie
member
hath
that
freedom
which
is
requisite
in
the
performance
of
their
christian
dueties
,
of
his
calling
.
The
proposition
therefore
is
false
.
As
for
the
assumption
in
differing
nothing
from
the
three
former
,
it
doth
commend
the
greate
facilitie
of
the
author
,
who
in
resoning
in
so
smal
varietie
of
matter
is
able
to
frame
so
greate
a
change
of
argumentes
which
yet
being
considered
of
,
doe
appeare
all
one
in
effect
.
Brownist
.
These
assemblies
haue
not
the
power
which
Christ
hath
giuen
vnto
his
church
vnto
the
worlds
end
,
&
al
the
powers
of
earth
and
hell
cannot
take
from
them
,
viz.
to
binde
and
loose
,
and
to
reforme
things
that
are
amisse
,
but
are
driuen
to
the
Commissarie
courtes
,
Therefore
,
&c.
Answere
.
The
Argument
is
this
.
The
true
church
hath
power
to
execute
the
censures
of
the
church
,
but
the
church
of
Englande
hath
not
,
Therefore
&c.
The
proposition
faileth
,
for
the
true
church
is
sometimes
without
outward
gouernement
,
whereof
read
pag.
25.
and
so
consequently
without
the
power
which
this
man
speaketh
off
,
for
I
know
he
will
not
restraine
this
power
of
binding
and
loosing
though
he
might
,
vnto
the
ministerie
of
the
word
,
whereof
notwithstanding
Christ
speaketh
,
Ioh.
20.
23.
saying
Whose
sinnes
soeuer
ye
remit
,
they
are
remitted
,
and
whose
sinnes
ye
retaine
they
are
retained
.
As
for
the
assumption
it
is
most
vntrue
;
for
we
haue
not
onely
the
power
of
Gods
word
,
which
he
hath
giuen
vnto
his
ministerie
to
bind
and
to
loose
therby
,
but
also
the
censures
of
the
church
in
respect
of
outward
gouernement
.
I
grant
that
euerie
seuerall
congregation
hath
not
this
power
:
and
I
dare
affirme
that
in
no
age
it
can
be
proued
that
euery
seuerall
congregation
had
this
authoritie
,
but
euen
in
those
churches
which
had
an
Eldership
,
the
same
was
not
in
euery
assemblie
,
but
diuerse
congregations
were
ordered
by
one
senyorie
,
therefore
to
say
that
because
euerie
priuate
congregation
hath
not
this
power
,
therefore
it
is
not
at
all
in
the
church
,
is
a
childish
kind
of
reasoning
.
Brownist
.
These
assemblies
cast
out
sathan
by
the
power
of
sathan
,
namely
,
by
these
Imps
of
Antichrist
the
Bishops
,
commissaries
and
priests
:
Therfore
they
are
not
,
and
for
all
their
reasons
seuerall
and
ioyned
,
cannot
be
held
in
any
Christian
iudgement
the
true
church
of
Christ
.
Answere
.
In
this
last
Argument
is
granted
vnto
vs
that
which
before
was
denied
,
viz.
that
our
church
hath
power
of
casting
out
;
but
it
faileth
in
the
manner
;
for
(
if
they
say
true
)
this
power
is
not
from
Christ
,
but
from
the
imps
of
Antichrist
,
&c.
vnto
which
accusation
I
answere
:
the
end
wherefore
men
are
cast
out
from
amongst
vs
by
the
doctrine
of
our
church
should
be
,
that
the
offender
by
being
depriued
of
the
seales
of
the
couenant
,
might
be
brought
vnto
repentance
.
Now
for
the
ordering
hereof
,
the
people
are
not
in
the
weightie
matters
of
the
church
to
haue
their
voice
,
pag.
47.
&c.
And
a
presbyterie
in
euery
congregation
cannot
be
had
,
pag.
●8
.
therfore
neither
election
,
ordination
,
excommunication
nor
other
censures
of
the
Church
are
to
be
committed
to
euerie
particular
congregation
.
As
for
this
vnchristian
dealing
in
condemning
for
Antichristian
whatsoeuer
is
not
according
to
their
humour
,
it
hath
bene
often
answered
.
Some
defectes
there
are
in
our
gouernment
,
we
challenge
no
perfection
;
some
corruption
there
is
oftentimes
in
such
as
haue
the
ordering
of
it
,
I
defend
not
all
.
But
in
this
I
would
be
resolued
,
if
wee
by
the
power
of
Satan
cast
out
Satan
,
by
what
power
do
they
cast
out
Satan
,
that
are
themselues
by
your
children
committed
to
Satan
?
For
the
most
corrupt
excommunication
in
our
church
shuld
be
wronged
,
if
it
should
be
compared
with
the
excommunications
that
come
from
them
,
who
by
their
fellowes
were
before
excommunicated
in
their
persons
.
Nay
,
they
are
to
bee
iustified
in
comparison
of
the
best
proceedings
that
haue
beene
amongst
these
rash
censurers
.
Brownist
.
Infinite
were
the
reasons
which
from
these
seuerall
heads
,
as
likevise
from
these
particular
transgressions
and
defaults
might
be
drawen
:
but
the
best
argument
to
comfort
and
cut
vp
this
trumperie
at
once
,
is
according
to
the
commandements
of
God
,
to
preserue
our
bodies
and
soules
free
from
these
abhominations
,
by
a
speedie
separation
&
wvithdrawing
our selues
from
amongest
them
,
and
to
confute
their
last
and
onely
argument
whereby
they
vpholde
their
ruinous
kingdome
,
namelie
,
their
penall
lawe
,
by
Christian
patience
,
and
an
vpright
and
godly
life
.
The
conclusion
is
,
that
much
more
might
bee
sayde
against
our
Church
:
and
I
beleeue
it
if
the
matter
had
not
failed
,
for
the
author
was
willing
vnto
it
,
as
may
appere
by
his
making
many
arguments
of
that
which
with
as
great
credit
might
haue
bene
knit
vp
in
one
:
and
also
by
his
bitternesse
from
the
first
to
the
last
.
Well
,
his
modestie
is
great
in
that
he
staieth
here
,
and
his
dealing
is
as
commendable
in
arming
himself
with
patience
against
the
penall
law
,
which
he
calleth
our
onely
argument
.
But
what
is
the
reason
that
hee
so
speaketh
?
It
should
seeme
,
it
is
because
hee
had
sent
these
foresayd
arguments
to
some
learned
men
,
who
would
not
vouchsafe
to
answere
them
;
but
his
challenging
of
the
learned
is
ridiculous
,
they
are
ashamed
to
deale
with
so
sottish
a
schisme
as
this
is
.
In
deede
the
ciuill
lawe
is
the
fittest
argument
to
be
vsed
with
these
vnreasonable
men
.
Yet
other
argumentes
are
vsed
both
against
the
treatise
of
their
Church
,
and
against
their
other
follies
,
if
they
wil
perseuer
,
lest
their
disciples
do
condemne
them
for
seducers
,
I
wish
them
to
laie
aside
their
former
bitternes
,
&
to
deal
strictlie
with
the
matter
in
question
.
Many
that
are
far
inferiour
to
those
who
haue
ben
challenged
,
will
be
found
able
(
I
doubt
not
)
to
ouerthrow
their
buildings
,
and
to
proue
them
deceitfull
workmen
.
FINIS
.