The
first
part
of
the
Suruey
of
the
Popes
Supremacie
,
wherein
is
a
triall
of
his
Title
.
ALthough
there
is
not
(
in
mine
opinion
)
To
plucke
away
therefore
this
visard
of
Religion
,
from
this
their
disobedient
and
dissolute
affection
,
I
thinke
it
to
be
the
duetie
of
euery
good
christian
,
according
to
our
calling
and
talents
wholy
to
indeuour
our selues
.
And
as
this
dutifull
affection
of
christian
obedience
should
effectually
moue
vs
vnto
this
attempt
,
so
the
very
ruine
of
religion
,
and
the
decay
of
all
true
deuotion
which
foloweth
that
perswasion
,
should
for●e
vs
to
make
haste
to
take
this
stumbling
blocke
out
of
the
way
of
the
simple
,
lest
at
vnwares
running
thereupon
,
they
should
make
shipwracke
of
their
faith
.
For
the
Bishop
of
Rome
by
this
his
pretended
priuiledge
,
Bellarmine
,
a
man
doubtlesse
learned
,
in
so
cleare
light
of
the
trueth
as
now
shineth
,
should
so
farre
ouershoote
himselfe
as
he
doeth
in
this
point
,
in
his
Preface
to
his
bookes
of
the
bishop
of
Rome
:
Seeing
therefore
the
truth
of
this
doctrine
is
so
necessary
,
both
for
the
sinceritie
of
religion
,
and
also
for
the
quietnesse
of
common
wealths
:
my
desire
&
purpose
is
,
if
God
giue
good
successe
thereunto
,
to
shew
and
proue
that
the
Bishop
of
Rome
maketh
herein
an
vniust
claime
,
But
because
it
pleaseth
master
Bellarmine
so
well
,
that
one
should
beare
rule
ouer
the
whole
church
,
let
him
and
his
fellowes
submit
hemselfe
to
Christ
that
King
of
kings
and
Lord
of
lords
,
Housband
man
,
to
dresse
his
vine
,
his
Vicar
or
leieutenant
to
looke
to
his
charge
:
the
pope
therefore
,
who
is
neither
appointed
to
it
,
nor
able
to
doe
it
,
is
not
.
Peter
.
The
church
was
at
that
time
contained
within
the
bonds
of
Iewry
,
or
at
the
least
hee
was
but
hie
priest
vnto
them
that
were
circumcised
.
As
also
in
Christ
his
time
the
church
consisted
but
of
a
few
persons
and
therefore
it
cannot
be
necessarily
concluded
,
that
if
the
church
then
was
gouerned
by
one
,
when
it
was
in
a
small
corner
of
the
world
,
it
should
now
be
so
likewise
,
when
it
is
scattered
in
many
places
,
vpon
the
earth
.
But
what
if
I
should
denie
to
Bellarmine
,
that
this
was
the
gouernment
of
the
church
before
Christ
,
Egypt
:
For
vntill
that
time
as
himselfe
confesseth
,
the
heads
of
their
houses
were
priests
.
And
although
there
were
many
good
men
at
one
time
as
Seth
,
Enosh
,
and
others
,
yet
master
Bellarmine
cannot
shew
,
that
there
was
amongst
them
,
a
hie
priest
,
but
euery
one
was
chiefe
in
his
owne
familie
.
But
what
if
it
appeare
that
then
when
there
was
a
hie
priest
,
yet
al
Gods
people
were
not
bound
to
be
vnder
him
?
The
widow
of
Sarepta
as
appeareth
by
her
story
,
Ionah
.
Egypt
,
neither
yet
afterward
for
any
but
only
for
the
Iews
as
by
the
examples
alleadged
may
appeare
,
out
of
this
I
say
wee
may
gather
,
that
neither
then
was
the
whole
church
commaunded
to
be
vnder
the
gouernment
of
one
,
and
also
that
it
was
not
a
pattern
of
gouernment
for
the
church
nowe
,
but
onely
a
figure
of
Christ
to
them
,
to
whome
all
things
almost
were
deliuered
in
figures
and
shadowes
.
Armie
,
to
Mans
body
,
or
a
beutifull
woman
,
to
a
kingdome
,
a
Ssheepfold
,
a
house
,
Noahs
arke
,
but
no
armie
without
a
generall
,
no
body
without
a
head
,
no
wife
without
a
husband
,
no
kingdome
without
a
king
,
no
shipfold
without
a
sheapheard
,
no
house
without
a
steward
,
no
ship
but
hath
a
master
.
We
grant
all
this
,
Peter
.
But
they
will
say
he
was
extraordinarily
called
.
And
they
that
are
extraordinarily
called
must
now
by
the
popes
lawes
be
allowed
by
the
pope
.
But
to
let
this
passe
,
Thomas
,
Aethiopia
to
Matthew
,
India
to
Bartholomew
were
appointed
to
preach
in
,
not
at
Peters
commandement
but
by
lot
.
Not
Peter
,
but
Thomas
moued
thereunto
by
God
sent
Thadde
vnto
Edessa
.
So
that
we
see
Maister
Bellarmines
minor
proposition
to
be
very
false
.
For
the
kingdome
of
Christ
may
well
be
increased
without
the
Popes
supremacie
.
As
then
it
was
,
so
now
I
say
it
may
be
,
yea
and
is
increased
mightely
,
although
the
Pope
doe
not
onely
grieue
at
it
,
but
also
striue
against
it
.
Iames
,
as
doth
easily
appeare
to
them
that
●ompare
the
words
that
he
did
speake
,
with
the
Epistle
that
they
did
write
,
concerning
the
matter
in
controuersie
.
So
that
if
there
were
then
anie
chiefe
it
was
Saint
Iames
,
and
not
Saint
Peter
.
The
like
also
I
might
shew
out
of
some
other
of
the
first
counsels
following
.
Of
which
because
I
shall
haue
better
occasion
after
to
intreat
,
I
trust
this
may
suffice
,
to
shewe
that
without
supremacie
,
vnitie
in
faith
may
be
maintained
,
and
therefore
that
the
minor
proposition
in
this
argument
is
false
.
And
thus
haue
I
briefly
r●●ne
ouer
the
arguments
,
that
are
alleadged
by
Maister
Bellarmine
to
proue
this
soueraigne
Monarchy
,
Rome
:
but
Christ
gaue
vnto
Peter
iurisdiction
,
ouer
the
vniuersall
church
and
not
to
the
rest
of
the
Apostles
:
therefore
the
Bishop
or
church
of
Rome
hath
iurisdiction
ouer
all
churches
,
or
ouer
the
vniuersall
church
.
And
in
this
argument
is
contained
,
not
onely
all
that
Maister
Bellarmine
can
say
,
but
all
that
they
all
can
alleadge
for
this
matter
,
and
therefore
it
is
the
more
diligently
to
be
examined
.
And
to
beginne
with
the
minor
,
wherein
is
affirmed
what
iurisdiction
or
power
ouer
others
Peter
had
,
Maister
Bellarmine
doth
confidently
and
plainely
affirme
,
That
Saint
Peter
is
appointed
of
Christ
himselfe
,
in
Christ
his
place
,
the
head
and
prince
of
the
church
,
or
these
are
his
verie
words
.
What
,
is
Christ
wearie
of
his
office
?
hath
hee
giuen
ouer
his
interest
,
hath
he
resigned
his
right
vnto
Saint
Peter
?
If
hee
haue
so
done
,
it
is
more
then
Saint
Paul
knew
,
who
after
that
Christ
had
left
the
world
,
yet
still
he
tooke
Christ
for
the
head
of
the
church
,
as
appeareth
by
his
epistle
to
the
Ephesians
and
to
the
Colossians
.
Peter
.
As
for
many
of
them
who
in
our
fathers
dayes
and
ours
,
haue
bragged
that
they
are
Peters
successors
,
deserue
not
to
bee
dog-driuers
out
of
a
poore
parish
church
wherein
godly
christians
are
assembled
much
lesse
to
be
vniuersall
bishops
ouer
the
whole
world
.
Neither
standeth
the
church
of
Christ
now
in
neede
of
any
such
lieutenant
,
seeing
Christ
is
much
more
effectually
with
his
church
now
,
then
hee
was
with
the
people
of
the
Iewes
,
when
he
was
conuersant
vpon
the
earth
.
For
he
that
promised
that
hee
would
be
with
vs
alwaies
,
Tertullian
,
doth
husband
the
earth
of
our
hearts
to
make
them
fruitfull
,
and
is
Christs
vicar
in
all
places
,
with
all
persons
,
to
supply
all
their
wants
.
So
that
hee
which
in
respect
of
his
bodily
presence
could
at
no
time
be
but
in
one
place
,
by
the
piercing
power
of
his
spirit
,
is
at
once
euery
where
.
And
therefore
is
he
much
more
present
now
in
the
spirit
,
then
before
in
the
flesh
,
because
before
he
could
be
at
once
but
with
a
few
of
the
faithfull
,
whereas
now
he
is
withal
at
one
instant
.
It
is
therefore
ouermuch
boldnes
in
master
Bellarmine
,
either
to
thrust
Christ
out
of
his
office
,
to
lay
the
same
vpon
Peter
,
or
else
to
imagine
that
Christ
is
not
better
able
by
his
spirit
,
then
by
the
pope
,
to
execute
the
same
.
His
iudgement
is
also
very
hard
,
wherein
he
pronounceth
that
to
say
,
that
saint
Peters
supremacy
is
not
instituted
by
Christ
,
it
is
not
a
simple
errour
,
but
a
detestable
heresie
.
This
I
am
sure
of
,
Peter
,
but
euer
some
councils
haue
thought
,
that
the
B.
of
Rome
,
who
thinketh
by
succession
from
Peter
,
he
hath
as
good
right
thereto
as
Peter
had
,
yet
had
not
from
Christ
any
right
to
the
supremacy
.
That
the
the
church
of
Rome
always
had
the
supremacie
,
but
the
councell
finding
,
that
there
was
not
there
anie
such
decree
,
did
ordaine
that
the
bishop
of
Constantinople
,
should
haue
as
great
,
euen
such
like
priuiledges
as
the
bishop
of
Rome
had
.
Which
had
beene
more
wickedlie
ordained
of
them
,
if
Rome
by
Christ
had
the
supremacie
,
then
wee
maie
imagine
so
manie
godlie
fathers
assembled
togither
would
haue
done
.
Yea
that
we
maie
knowe
,
that
at
that
time
if
bishops
of
Rome
,
had
anie
priuiledge
aboue
other
bishops
,
they
did
not
thinke
it
was
so
by
Christs
institution
,
they
set
downe
the
reason
,
why
the
church
of
Rome
was
more
honoured
then
the
rest
.
Euen
because
it
was
the
imperiall
citie
as
also
Ireny
long
before
them
did
testifie
.
And
this
made
the
fathers
of
the
councell
of
Chalcedon
the
Ciprian
,
and
all
the
fathers
of
these
two
councels
,
learned
and
manie
did
not
thinke
,
nor
would
confesse
,
that
this
suprem●cie
was
Christes
institution
,
and
yet
master
Bellarmines
sharpe
penne
hath
prickt
them
all
with
one
dash
as
guiltie
not
of
simple
errour
,
but
of
pestilent
heresie
.
Nowe
wee
must
needes
imagine
,
that
he
would
neuer
burst
out
into
these
excessiue
speeches
,
as
if
hee
were
rauished
,
and
besides
himselfe
(
as
in
these
two
pointes
mentioned
it
maie
appeare
)
vnlesse
his
opinion
rested
vpon
a
sure
ground
.
Let
vs
therefore
examine
his
proofes
,
and
trie
the
waight
of
his
reasons
.
This
most
necessarie
controuersie
,
Peter
.
Elias
,
some
Ieremias
,
or
one
of
the
Prophetes
,
and
asking
of
them
what
they
thought
of
him
,
Simon
Peter
answered
thou
art
Christ
the
sonne
of
the
liuing
God
.
And
Iesus
answered
and
saide
vnto
him
,
happie
art
thou
Simon
the
sonne
of
Iona
,
for
flesh
and
bloud
hath
not
opened
that
vnto
thee
,
but
my
father
which
is
in
heauen
.
And
I
say
also
vnto
thee
that
thou
art
Peter
,
and
vpon
this
rocke
I
will
build
my
church
,
and
the
gates
of
hell
shall
not
preuaile
against
it
.
And
I
will
giue
vnto
thee
the
keies
of
the
kingdome
of
heauen
,
and
whatsoeuer
thou
shalt
bind
in
earth
,
shall
be
bound
in
heauen
,
and
whatsoeuer
thou
shalt
loose
in
earth
,
shall
bee
loosed
in
heauen
.
These
are
the
wordes
that
must
strengthen
and
stay
this
stately
building
of
the
popes
supremacie
,
or
else
it
is
like
to
fall
.
Out
of
which
master
Bellarmine
draweth
two
argumentes
.
First
that
Saint
Peter
is
the
foundation
,
secondly
that
hee
is
the
key
carier
of
the
church
,
and
therefore
that
hee
must
bee
the
supreme
head
of
the
church
.
The
first
is
taken
out
of
these
wordes
,
Thou
art
Peter
and
vpon
this
rocke
I
will
build
my
church
.
The
plaine
meaning
of
which
words
I
take
to
be
this
.
When
first
I
tooke
thee
to
be
an
Apostle
,
I
said
thou
shouldest
bee
called
Cephas
which
is
by
interpretation
a
stone
.
But
master
Bellarmine
out
of
this
doth
gather
that
the
church
is
built
vpon
Peter
,
as
vpon
a
foundation
.
Yet
I
trust
hee
will
not
deny
,
that
Christ
is
such
a
foundation
,
as
there
is
no
other
,
because
S.
Paul
telleth
vs
,
Esay
,
Peter
,
and
so
to
the
church
of
Rome
,
&
that
very
particularly
:
making
it
thestone
tried
with
persecutions
,
with
heresies
which
the
pride
of
the
Greeke
church
,
with
stiffenesse
of
some
emperors
,
with
schismes
,
with
wicked
popes
,
The
corner
stone
that
ioyneth
into
one
church
,
the
Iewes
and
the
Gentils
,
The
pretious
stone
because
she
is
rich
in
ceremonies
,
and
sacramentes
,
in
pardons
,
in
councils
,
in
interpretation
.
of
scriptures
and
such
like
:
And
last
of
all
the
sure
foundation
.
But
here
master
Bellarmine
is
forced
to
graunt
,
that
Peter
is
but
a
secondary
foundation
and
not
the
principall
foundation
,
for
that
Christ
onely
is
.
This
discourse
of
his
,
maketh
me
remember
frier
Toittis
,
Paternoster
,
who
vpon
a
great
controuersie
that
arose
in
Scotland
concerning
the
lords
prayer
,
whether
it
might
be
said
vnto
the
Saints
or
not
,
beeing
intreated
(
as
a
man
belike
most
sufficient
)
to
deale
in
the
matter
,
comming
into
the
pulpit
at
Saint
Andrews
where
this
controuersie
was
,
began
in
particular
to
shew
how
euery
petition
might
be
made
vnto
the
saints
,
vntil
he
came
to
the
fourth
petition
,
wherein
hee
was
faine
to
confesse
,
that
the
saints
cannot
giue
vs
our
daily
bread
,
and
so
with
shame
bewrayed
his
owne
folly
,
and
the
feeblenesse
,
or
rather
the
falsnes
of
his
cause
.
Euen
so
master
Bellarmine
,
robbing
Christ
of
his
ornaments
that
hee
may
decke
therewith
,
that
whorish
synagogue
,
which
vntrewly
he
callet
Peters
seate
,
hauing
besides
all
learning
,
nay
contrarie
to
the
sinceritie
of
a
christian
diuine
,
most
blasphemously
,
applied
vnto
that
Romish
seate
,
that
which
belongeth
vnto
Christ
onely
,
and
is
one
of
his
most
especiall
and
peculiar
markes
whereby
hee
is
set
foorth
as
the
promised
sauiour
,
that
he
should
be
the
corner
stone
,
tried
,
and
precious
:
Yet
is
he
in
the
end
forced
to
confesse
,
that
the
sure
foundation
cannot
be
found
but
in
Christ
,
although
he
would
seeme
to
apply
that
title
,
to
that
seate
also
.
I
would
hardly
haue
thought
that
,
a
man
so
learned
as
master
Bellarmine
in
these
our
dayes
,
wherein
knowledge
aboundeth
,
Ronanes
,
but
also
to
the
Ephesians
,
shewing
how
he
onely
can
be
as
a
corner
stone
,
gathering
and
knitting
together
the
Iewes
and
Gentiles
.
S.
Peter
also
himselfe
maketh
Christ
to
be
this
stone
.
It
is
not
a
sufficient
excuse
for
master
Bellarmine
,
that
he
acknowledgeth
,
that
the
prophet
Esay
speaketh
especially
of
Christ
,
and
then
to
apply
it
vnto
the
church
of
Rome
.
For
seeing
the
scriptures
with
so
great
consent
,
do
acknowlege
Christ
to
be
that
tried
and
and
precious
corner
stone
,
Bellarmine
,
to
bragge
of
the
might
and
maiesty
of
the
church
of
Rome
,
we
see
that
the
hath
lost
many
kingdomes
,
that
sometime
serued
her
.
And
where
her
power
is
greatest
,
we
see
that
many
fall
●ayly
from
her
:
and
that
such
as
doe
so
,
haue
no
cause
to
repent
it
,
but
that
God
aideth
them
with
his
wonderfull
and
mercifull
hand
,
and
prosecuteth
them
with
many
blessings
.
But
to
returne
vnto
master
Bellarmines
argument
againe
:
Vpon
this
rocke
I
will
build
my
church
.
The
foundation
of
a
house
hath
two
respects
:
First
,
it
holdeth
vp
the
whole
building
,
which
being
coupled
together
in
it
,
groweth
to
be
an
house
,
as
before
I
haue
shewed
out
of
saint
Paules
epistle
to
the
Ephesians
,
and
thus
Christ
onely
is
the
foundation
of
his
church
,
as
hee
is
also
the
head
,
whereof
all
the
bodie
furnished
and
knit
together
with
ioints
and
bands
,
increaseth
with
the
increasing
of
God
.
The
Apostles
therefore
may
well
bee
foundations
(
as
I
haue
before
saide
,
either
because
that
they
are
(
as
it
were
)
the
first
stones
that
are
layed
,
vpon
Christ
,
in
this
building
,
or
because
of
their
doctrine
whereupon
our
faith
is
grounded
,
but
otherwise
,
we
can
not
admitte
them
all
,
or
any
one
of
them
,
whether
Peter
,
or
any
other
,
to
be
a
foundation
,
in
this
building
.
So
that
al
the
paines
that
master
Bellarmine
taketh
,
to
proue
,
that
this
rocke
must
needs
signifie
Peter
himselfe
,
is
more
than
needeth
:
for
we
wil
confesse
,
that
he
and
the
rest
of
the
Apostles
,
are
foundations
in
the
church
.
But
if
after
some
more
peculiar
sort
,
he
wil
haue
him
a
foundation
,
neither
hath
he
prooued
it
by
that
which
he
vrgeth
out
these
words
,
vpon
this
rocke
,
neither
yet
by
that
vniuersall
consent
of
the
church
that
he
braggeth
of
.
For
the
fathers
do
in
sundry
sorts
expound
these
words
,
som
by
this
rocke
vnderstand
Peter
as
he
was
an
apostle
,
and
teacher
of
the
word
of
God
.
And
so
may
the
fathers
be
vnderstoode
that
are
in
this
chapter
alleaged
by
master
Bellarmine
.
For
he
can
not
reason
thus
:
He
is
called
a
foundation
,
therefore
he
is
a
foundation
after
some
other
manner
than
the
other
Apostles
.
Some
by
this
rocke
vnderstand
Christ
whom
Peter
confessed
.
So
doth
saint
Augustine
,
Hillarie
,
Ambrose
,
Chrysostome
and
Cyril
.
But
none
of
these
interpretations
can
please
our
Romish
rabbies
,
but
that
only
that
makes
Peter
the
foundation
in
Christs
place
,
which
can
not
out
of
any
of
these
expositions
be
gathered
.
S.
Augustine
,
master
Bellarmine
saith
,
was
deceiued
,
because
he
knew
not
the
Hebrew
tongue
:
but
yet
saint
Augustines
words
teach
vs
,
that
in
his
time
this
place
was
not
by
consent
of
the
godly
,
so
expounded
as
now
the
Papists
expound
it
,
but
only
that
there
were
sundry
expositions
of
sundry
men
:
and
that
saint
Augustine
liked
this
of
his
best
.
How
happeneth
it
then
that
maister
Bellarmine
with
a
great
cracke
saieth
hee
hath
the
consent
of
the
whole
church
?
Where
is
their
catholike
doctrine
euen
in
this
point
,
that
which
now
the
church
of
Rome
teacheth
,
was
not
in
saint
Augustines
dayes
catholike
.
But
to
to
proue
this
doctrine
to
be
catholike
,
he
saith
,
The
whole
Councell
of
Chalcedon
wherein
were
630.
fathers
call
Peter
the
Rocke
and
Bancke
of
the
church
so
also
saith
Melchior
Canus
.
But
both
of
them
by
shamelesse
lies
do
seeke
to
abuse
the
simplicity
of
the
ignorant
.
Paschasinus
or
Paschasius
he
only
said
so
,
who
was
Legat
there
for
Leo
,
bishop
of
Rome
,
and
sought
by
all
meanes
possible
,
to
aduance
that
seat
aboue
all
others
,
as
may
appeare
in
that
place
,
especially
in
the
sixteenth
action
of
that
council
,
Hillary
,
Ambrose
,
Chrysostome
and
Ciril
,
which
take
Peters
confession
to
be
that
rocke
,
master
Bellarmine
would
shift
that
off
with
this
answere
,
that
they
only
speak
of
that
faith
,
that
Peter
as
a
pastor
of
the
church
had
,
not
of
the
faith
without
respect
of
Peters
person
.
And
yet
Hillary
saith
not
,
Vpon
this
rocke
of
confession
.
And
also
not
this
mans
faith
,
but
This
faith
is
the
foundation
of
the
Church
,
by
reason
of
this
faith
,
the
gates
of
hell
can
do
nothing
against
it
,
this
faith
hath
the
keies
of
the
kingdome
of
heauen
.
Bellarmine
,
speaketh
also
of
faith
absolutely
,
without
hauing
respect
to
Peter
,
as
also
he
doth
in
sundry
other
places
of
that
booke
.
Yea
he
telleth
vs
there
,
that
whosoeuer
ouercommeth
the
flesh
,
is
a
foundation
in
the
church
,
and
speaking
of
this
rocke
,
he
would
that
euerie
one
should
haue
within
himselfe
this
rocke
,
which
cannot
be
vnderstood
of
this
confession
as
it
hath
respect
to
Peter
.
The
like
also
may
bee
said
for
Chrisostome
and
Cirill
,
but
this
I
trust
is
sufficient
to
shew
the
vanity
of
his
answere
,
which
is
so
flatte
against
the
words
of
those
fathers
.
For
they
speake
of
that
faith
,
because
it
hath
respect
vnto
Christ
,
and
master
Bellarmine
would
haue
it
imagined
that
they
commend
this
faith
as
it
commeth
from
Peter
and
because
it
is
his
.
And
that
master
Bellarmine
would
seeme
out
of
Hillary
to
confirme
,
And
thus
hauing
answered
,
the
most
forcible
proofes
that
master
Bellarmine
bringeth
,
to
proue
that
the
church
must
bee
built
vpon
Peter
:
I
would
on
the
other
side
wish
him
to
consider
how
weake
a
foundation
he
and
his
fellowes
doe
builde
vpon
.
For
Peter
did
not
only
by
euill
councell
,
Paule
,
because
hee
was
worthie
to
bee
blamed
.
So
that
euen
then
,
if
there
had
beene
no
better
or
surer
foundation
,
to
haue
builded
the
church
vpon
then
Peter
,
the
building
might
well
haue
runne
to
one
side
.
But
thankes
bee
vnto
God
that
we
haue
a
surer
rocke
.
Peter
.
For
hee
had
these
wordes
spoken
vnto
him
almost
4000.
yeares
after
the
church
began
.
And
could
it
stand
and
florish
so
manie
yeares
,
builded
only
vpon
Christ
the
sure
foundation
,
and
shall
we
nowe
thinke
that
this
foundation
beginneth
to
shrinke
,
or
is
lesse
able
to
vphold
this
building
,
so
that
it
must
needes
haue
Saint
Peter
to
helpe
to
holde
it
vppe
,
for
feare
of
falling
?
God
forbid
that
euer
christians
should
haue
so
foolish
thoughts
,
and
yet
these
and
such
like
absurdities
must
folow
this
doctrine
.
But
to
conclude
this
point
I
reason
thus
.
Now
thus
I
reason
for
proofe
of
my
maior
.
If
the
not
hauing
of
that
outward
forme
of
gouernement
can
make
that
it
is
not
the
same
church
,
how
much
more
if
any
thing
be
added
to
the
foundation
,
but
saith
he
,
the
not
hauing
of
the
same
outward
gouernment
,
doth
make
it
to
be
not
the
same
church
,
therfore
much
more
if
it
be
altered
in
the
foundation
.
And
to
saie
that
the
church
now
in
the
time
of
grace
is
not
all
one
with
that
church
that
was
before
Christ
,
or
that
then
there
was
anie
other
foundation
besides
Christ
,
is
nothing
els
then
to
deny
Christ
to
be
a
corner
stone
,
that
ioyneth
together
both
sides
of
the
house
,
making
of
both
one
.
By
which
the
minor
of
my
argument
is
verified
.
Thus
I
trust
to
the
indifferent
reader
it
may
appeare
,
that
as
this
interpretation
of
these
wordes
vpon
this
rocke
I
will
builde
my
church
,
that
is
vpon
Peter
,
is
not
catholike
,
so
the
doctrine
that
followeth
therupon
is
absurd
.
Let
vs
now
consider
what
weight
there
is
in
his
second
argument
whith
hee
wringeth
out
of
the
word
of
building
.
A
man
buildeth
to
haue
a
house
,
that
he
may
rule
,
and
he
cannot
rule
,
but
that
first
the
house
must
be
made
.
So
that
indeede
building
in
the
house
ceaseth
,
when
ruling
beginneth
,
when
the
house
is
made
,
then
is
it
ruled
.
With
much
like
dexterity
he
will
proue
that
the
foundation
doth
rule
the
house
.
In
the
ende
if
you
will
heare
him
,
he
will
make
you
beleeue
,
that
the
house
ruleth
the
maister
,
not
the
maister
the
house
.
But
let
vs
grant
Maister
Bellarmine
this
which
so
earnestly
he
seeketh
for
.
Let
vs
yeelde
that
to
builde
is
to
rule
,
what
is
then
out
of
these
wordes
to
be
gathered
?
Vpon
this
rocke
I
will
build
,
that
is
I
will
rule
my
church
.
This
we
see
,
Christ
is
the
ruler
(
and
not
Peter
)
of
the
church
.
Then
let
vs
go
forwarde
,
that
we
may
see
what
help
vnto
this
popish
supremacy
,
the
wordes
following
do
bring
:
vnto
thee
will
I
giue
(
saith
Christ
)
the
keies
of
the
kingdome
of
heauen
&c.
Here
Maister
Bellarmine
is
very
earnest
to
proue
,
that
these
keies
were
deliuered
to
Peter
:
Peter
.
What
then
?
Were
they
deliuered
to
him
alone
?
Peter
.
Whereas
Peter
had
it
as
his
ordinary
iurisdiction
.
Peter
,
a
legantine
,
in
him
an
ordinary
power
.
And
this
promise
is
perfourmed
to
all
Iohn
the
xx
.
in
these
words
receiue
the
holy
ghost
,
Bellarmine
,
or
any
other
,
that
the
keies
are
not
in
like
maner
giuen
to
all
,
when
wee
see
,
that
Gods
worde
maketh
no
difference
betweene
them
.
But
master
Bellarmine
,
because
we
goe
about
trewly
with
Theophilact
to
expound
this
promise
to
thee
I
wil
giue
the
keies
,
by
that
of
Iohn
whose
sinnes
so
euer
ye
remit
they
are
remitted
,
&c.
would
faine
make
vs
beleeue
if
we
will
trust
him
of
his
bare
word
,
that
Theophilact
and
we
are
deceiued
,
and
that
Christ
in
these
words
of
saint
Iohn
,
doth
onely
giue
power
of
order
,
whereas
in
Mathew
he
promiseth
power
of
Iurisdiction
.
And
the
better
to
perswade
vs
,
Ambrose
,
whose
credit
is
far
aboue
maister
Belarmines
,
doth
vse
the
words
of
remitting
&
loosing
,
retaining
and
binding
indifferently
the
one
for
the
other
.
And
therefore
this
is
but
a
blinde
cauill
,
to
keepe
the
light
of
the
truth
vnder
a
bushell
.
If
we
prooue
out
of
Cyprian
,
Cyprian
?
Because
hee
saieth
in
that
Booke
,
that
beginning
proceedeth
from
a
vnity
to
shew
,
that
the
church
is
one
.
Thus
then
doeth
hee
reason
.
The
Church
proceedeth
from
one
or
from
vnitie
:
Therefore
Peter
is
aboue
all
the
Apostles
.
Seeing
therefore
it
appeareth
by
that
which
hath
beene
spoken
,
that
not
Peter
onely
,
but
all
the
apostles
in
like
manner
receiued
the
keies
,
Peter
,
To
thee
I
will
giue
the
keies
,
yet
it
is
manifest
that
for
his
sake
onely
it
was
not
spoken
,
or
the
vse
of
the
keies
,
to
him
onlie
was
not
promised
,
but
in
and
by
him
,
Christ
spake
to
all
,
without
giuing
lesse
power
to
them
or
more
to
him
.
And
thus
much
concerning
this
question
to
whom
the
keies
were
giuen
.
Nowe
must
we
see
what
these
keies
are
,
Maister
Bellarmine
affirmeth
,
Bellarmine
,
as
in
many
other
places
,
so
heere
also
.
For
Eliachim
of
whom
the
promise
was
made
in
this
place
,
Ezechiah
.
Neither
yet
was
there
euer
any
such
high
priest
as
Shebnah
,
whome
God
threateneth
in
that
place
.
Whosoeuer
marketh
either
the
pedigree
of
priests
in
the
scriptures
,
or
in
Iosephus
,
hee
shall
finde
it
to
bee
most
false
and
vntrue
,
that
heere
maister
Bellarmine
so
boldly
affirmeth
.
But
this
Eliachim
was
one
of
the
princes
whome
Ezechiah
,
sent
to
Rabsache
,
ouer
the
house
,
as
also
Saint
Hierome
yea
and
their
owne
old
translation
doe
translate
those
words
of
Esay
.
And
Saint
Hierome
in
his
commentaries
vppon
that
place
calleth
him
maister
or
ouerseer
of
the
house
.
Bellarmine
,
thus
to
abuse
the
simplicitie
of
his
reader
,
and
the
credulitie
of
his
frends
,
who
hee
hopeth
wil
not
examine
that
he
writeth
,
whether
it
haue
weight
or
not
,
but
will
take
all
for
gold
,
that
hee
giueth
,
if
it
looke
yelow
.
Thus
against
all
truth
to
affirme
Eliachim
to
be
hie
priest
is
too
bad
.
And
to
offer
by
such
proofe
as
could
not
but
be
vncertain
euen
to
himselfe
,
to
proue
so
waighty
a
matter
,
whereupon
so
great
controuersie
in
religion
hangeth
,
doth
not
onely
proclaime
that
all
may
heare
it
,
the
weaknesse
of
his
cause
,
but
also
that
his
indeuour
is
,
to
keepe
vnder
the
truth
,
that
it
appeare
not
.
And
thus
much
to
lay
open
his
falshood
in
his
first
reason
:
Now
let
vs
see
the
weakenesse
of
his
second
.
To
binde
and
loose
(
saieth
hee
)
is
to
commaunde
,
As
for
Chrisostom
who
is
the
other
witnes
that
must
prooue
that
by
the
keies
Christ
meaneth
this
vinuersal
iurisdiction
:
Chrisostom
,
how
then
is
he
lesse
,
that
wrought
this
in
Peter
?
So
then
to
proue
Christ
to
be
equall
vnto
the
father
in
power
,
he
sheweth
that
he
wrought
,
if
not
more
mightely
,
yet
as
powerfull
in
Peter
as
the
father
did
.
And
vpon
this
occasion
he
thus
amplifieth
this
excellency
of
Peter
,
as
also
he
doth
a
litle
before
in
respect
of
that
vniuersall
church
that
Christ
committed
to
him
,
which
charge
the
rest
also
had
.
For
all
the
apostles
were
generall
Preachers
,
wheresoeuer
God
called
them
.
Chrisostome
:
I
see
no
reason
why
we
should
yeld
either
to
scripturs
,
so
falsly
or
foolishly
applyed
,
or
much
lesse
to
the
sayings
of
men
,
so
hardly
construed
.
For
as
before
I
haue
admonished
,
it
is
one
thing
to
haue
an
excellency
or
superioritie
among
others
in
some
respects
of
other
mens
yeldings
:
another
thing
to
haue
iurisdiction
,
of
his
owne
right
and
interest
,
ouer
all
other
.
The
first
we
confesse
was
in
Peter
,
but
that
wil
nothing
at
all
helpe
the
Pope
,
or
the
iurisdiction
of
the
church
of
Rome
.
Theophilact
,
we
haue
most
plaine
proofe
out
of
Gods
word
.
Iohn
,
no
chiefe
power
is
giuen
,
but
such
as
is
generall
and
common
to
all
the
apostles
,
therefore
in
Saint
Mathew
there
is
not
promised
any
chiefe
power
,
but
such
as
is
common
to
them
all
,
Bellarmine
.
But
master
Bellarmine
denieth
my
maior
,
Peter
,
vntill
after
that
Christ
rose
againe
,
but
then
they
suspected
some
such
matter
and
that
made
them
striue
.
Is
it
not
great
boldnes
in
master
Bellarmine
,
in
so
waightie
matters
,
to
bring
no
other
warrant
but
his
foolish
fancie
?
Or
to
answere
such
an
vnanswerable
argument
,
by
such
silly
shiftes
?
They
knewe
not
saith
master
Bellarmine
that
Christ
made
such
promise
to
Peter
vntill
after
Christ
was
risen
againe
.
But
if
it
had
beene
an
article
of
such
importance
as
now
it
is
made
,
why
shoulde
they
not
haue
knowne
it
?
They
heard
what
Christ
said
to
Peter
,
they
heard
the
promise
of
the
keies
,
and
this
is
asmuch
as
our
Romish
Rabbines
can
nowe
bring
for
their
proofe
.
If
they
vnderstoode
it
not
so
,
as
master
Bellarmine
heere
confesseth
they
did
not
,
what
newe
reuelation
haue
our
newe
Romish
teachers
,
to
assure
this
to
be
the
meaning
of
those
wordes
?
But
they
seeme
to
be
whelpes
of
one
haire
,
with
those
hereticks
whome
Tertullian
reprooueth
,
Fisher
,
not
knowing
better
howe
to
excuse
their
additions
vnto
the
auncient
doctrine
,
Well
,
master
Bellarmine
you
see
confesseth
,
that
the
apostles
vnderstoode
not
then
,
that
promise
as
nowe
the
papistles
doe
.
When
did
they
reforme
their
iudgement
?
Where
,
in
what
place
doe
they
shew
any
signification
,
that
they
euer
vnderstood
it
otherwise
?
If
they
neither
vnderstood
it
so
before
Christs
resurrection
,
neither
yet
gaue
anie
signification
afterwardes
,
by
woorde
or
deede
,
by
their
writings
or
examples
,
that
their
knowledge
was
in
this
pointe
reformed
,
howe
can
wee
saie
,
that
they
euer
tooke
that
to
bee
Christes
meaning
?
But
the
first
of
these
is
confessed
(
as
before
is
shewed
)
by
Maister
Bellarmine
,
the
latter
they
cannot
shewe
.
Therefore
it
maie
be
gathered
that
the
apostles
neuer
vnderstood
the
words
of
Christ
as
the
papistes
doe
.
Of
both
which
times
the
three
Euangelistes
doe
make
report
.
And
Saint
Iohn
also
in
his
gospell
,
seemeth
to
pointe
vnto
the
latter
strife
,
when
hauing
washed
his
Apostles
feete
,
Christ
giueth
them
good
lessons
of
humilitie
.
But
that
after
Christes
resurrection
they
did
consende
for
this
,
it
cannot
bee
prooued
.
For
both
these
times
were
before
his
death
.
And
therefore
I
cannot
but
maruell
,
that
Maister
Bellarmine
will
bring
such
proofelesse
stuffe
to
open
light
,
as
though
hee
imagined
,
that
his
counterfaite
coyne
,
must
goe
for
currant
.
And
whereas
afterwardes
hee
alleadgeth
out
of
Origen
,
Chrysostóme
and
Hierome
,
that
the
apostles
did
striue
amongst
themselues
,
because
they
suspected
this
supremacie
of
Peter
,
himselfe
doeth
not
in
this
,
giue
credite
to
these
fathers
.
For
if
it
bee
true
that
maister
Bellarmine
saide
before
,
that
this
suspition
was
not
vntill
Christ
was
risen
,
then
howe
is
this
true
that
they
affirme
that
they
suspected
thus
much
,
when
they
did
striue
first
of
all
.
Which
was
at
the
least
about
a
yeare
and
a
halfe
,
before
Christ
rose
againe
.
Neither
doe
these
fathers
heerein
deserue
to
bee
beleeued
.
Capernaum
,
as
is
most
plaine
in
the
euangelist
saint
Markes
gospel
,
the
ninth
chapter
,
and
three
and
thirtie
and
foure
and
thirtie
verses
.
And
the
tribute
was
not
demaunded
before
they
were
entred
into
Capernaum
,
Zebedee
,
Peter
,
as
this
is
said
to
be
against
Iames
and
Iohn
.
But
it
seemeth
that
euery
one
would
be
aboue
other
,
and
no
suspition
then
,
that
Peter
shoulde
be
aboue
all
.
And
whereas
they
that
wrote
those
Bookes
called
the
Centuries
,
alleadge
,
that
if
there
had
beene
in
Peter
any
such
Supremacy
,
Christ
woulde
haue
saide
to
them
when
they
did
striue
,
contend
no
more
,
for
I
haue
made
Peter
chiefe
amongst
you
:
but
(
say
they
)
hee
spake
no
such
wordes
:
Now
master
Bellarmine
will
prooue
,
that
Christ
tolde
them
,
that
Peter
was
appointed
to
bee
chiefe
.
Hitherto
wee
haue
seene
,
howe
little
hee
can
prooue
by
the
first
of
his
two
places
of
scripture
.
Now
let
vs
trie
what
weight
the
other
testimonie
hath
.
Peter
,
who
when
he
had
thrice
asked
of
him
,
Yea
,
it
is
confessed
by
maister
Bellarmine
in
his
answere
to
an
authoritie
alleadged
out
of
Cyprian
,
that
all
the
apostles
were
like
in
apostolike
power
,
and
had
euen
the
same
authoritie
ouer
christian
people
.
If
they
had
the
selfe
same
authoritie
ouer
christians
that
Peter
had
,
which
here
he
confesseth
,
then
to
the
rest
as
well
as
to
Peter
,
But
what
should
I
stand
vpon
this
point
?
It
is
more
plaine
,
then
that
maister
Bellarmine
himselfe
can
deny
it
,
although
he
would
blinde
the
eies
of
the
simple
with
this
distinction
,
Peter
,
but
in
some
sort
to
all
.
What
,
was
Peter
bound
to
feede
more
diligently
then
the
rest
of
the
Apostles
,
Christes
sheepe
?
None
may
be
negligent
in
this
office
.
And
he
that
doth
the
worke
of
the
Lord
,
Peter
,
Feede
(
saith
Christ
)
my
sheepe
,
bring
with
thee
thy
ministerie
,
if
thou
wile
set
foorth
thy
loue
to
the
great
sheepehearde
.
Then
also
maister
Bellarmine
will
proue
out
of
these
wordes
and
that
easilie
as
he
saieth
,
But
you
must
heare
with
him
,
the
brightnesse
of
Peters
chaire
at
Rome
hath
so
daseled
his
eies
,
that
he
cannot
espie
so
small
a
misse
.
But
the
weight
of
all
consisteth
in
the
last
point
that
he
handleth
concevning
this
place
,
Peter
.
For
his
trifling
coniectures
of
the
difference
betweene
lambes
and
sheep
,
they
are
not
worth
speaking
of
.
But
let
vs
see
what
force
is
in
his
notable
reason
,
for
himselfe
so
calleth
it
,
he
so
well
liketh
of
it
.
Christ
saide
not
feede
all
my
sheepe
,
Rome
,
as
though
he
were
euen
the
creatour
of
Lodgicke
,
and
would
haue
it
as
his
creature
,
to
frame
it selfe
,
to
serue
his
turne
.
But
to
come
to
the
point
.
As
he
affirmeth
all
euen
the
apostles
by
these
wordes
to
be
committed
to
Peter
:
so
I
doe
confidently
pronounce
,
my
sheepe
,
which
maister
Bellarmine
maketh
the
chiefe
strength
of
his
argument
,
doth
make
much
for
that
interpretation
,
which
I
take
to
be
the
true
and
natui
all
sence
of
the
place
.
When
the
meaning
of
our
sauiour
Christ
,
is
to
speake
of
that
generall
charge
ouer
all
,
then
he
vttereth
it
in
other
wordes
,
Go
teach
all
nations
,
And
as
though
in
comparison
of
the
Iewes
,
he
made
no
account
of
the
gentiles
,
he
saith
it
is
not
meete
to
take
the
childrens
bread
,
(
meaning
the
saluation
that
was
sent
to
the
Israelites
)
and
cast
it
to
the
dogges
.
Therefore
Christ
by
this
worde
my
sheepe
meaneth
(
as
it
should
seeme
)
the
people
to
whome
he
especially
was
sent
,
amongst
whom
he
was
borne
,
to
whom
hee
preached
,
And
besides
the
manner
of
sending
of
his
Apostles
vnto
their
generall
charge
,
(
whereof
I
haue
already
spoken
)
which
is
farre
differing
from
this
,
the
very
office
that
we
know
was
laide
vpon
Peter
,
Peter
.
Wee
see
therefore
that
Peter
had
a
peculiar
charge
and
calling
,
to
bee
the
apostle
of
the
Iewes
.
Which
is
proofe
strong
enough
,
to
prooue
that
Christ
neuer
meant
,
to
commit
anie
such
generall
charge
ouer
all
the
world
vnto
him
,
vnlesse
we
will
imagine
,
that
Christ
did
first
he
knew
not
what
,
and
afterwardes
reuoked
his
former
commission
.
I
saie
this
limitation
of
Peter
,
especiallie
,
although
not
onlie
,
to
one
peculiar
people
,
is
as
it
were
a
reuocation
,
of
his
former
vniuersall
calling
,
if
any
such
had
beene
,
or
rather
because
indeed
none
such
was
,
it
is
insteede
of
a
commentarie
vpon
these
wordes
,
feede
my
sheepe
,
to
teach
vs
how
to
vnderstand
them
.
Feed
my
sheep
,
that
is
the
Iewes
,
whom
I
haue
especially
committed
to
thee
,
as
I
also
tooke
paines
almost
wholy
and
only
among
them
.
Furthermore
also
when
Saint
Paule
telleth
vs
that
the
gospell
ouer
the
vncircumcision
,
was
committed
to
him
,
as
vnto
Peter
the
gospell
was
committed
ouer
the
circumcision
,
his
meaning
is
to
tell
vs
,
that
Christ
hath
as
well
placed
him
ouer
the
Gentiles
,
as
Peter
ouer
the
Iewes
.
And
therefore
of
himselfe
he
saith
that
he
was
seperated
vnto
the
gospell
of
Iesus
Christ
,
Barnabas
,
to
the
worke
whereunto
hee
had
called
them
.
And
what
this
worke
is
,
Galathians
,
assuring
himselfe
that
God
called
him
to
that
office
.
But
now
for
Peter
,
we
must
not
doubt
,
but
that
hee
also
was
called
of
God
.
For
they
are
not
to
be
heard
,
that
woulde
make
vs
beleeue
that
it
was
but
a
couenant
among
themselues
,
that
Peter
should
preach
to
the
Iewes
;
Paule
to
the
Gentiles
,
but
Paule
doth
assure
himselfe
of
his
calling
in
that
he
that
was
mightie
in
Peter
,
was
mightie
in
him
also
.
Saint
Hierom
on
the
Galathians
lib.
1.
cap.
2.
very
well
writeth
,
One
and
the
selfesame
(
Christ
)
committed
to
mee
the
gospell
of
the
vncircumcision
,
(
speaking
in
the
person
of
Paule
)
who
committed
to
Peter
the
gospell
of
the
circumcision
.
If
then
Peter
was
by
Christ
called
to
this
apostleshippe
,
where
was
it
,
when
,
in
what
woordes
?
In
all
the
Scripture
there
is
not
auie
one
place
but
this
,
wherein
he
is
called
by
Christ
to
this
ministerie
ouer
the
Iewes
.
And
therefore
Christes
sheepe
,
are
rather
that
peculiar
people
that
were
(
as
no
man
denieth
)
committed
to
Peter
,
then
the
whole
world
,
whereof
in
Scripture
,
they
haue
no
probable
coniecture
.
And
this
interpretation
,
I
maruell
that
Maister
Bellarmine
hath
not
sought
to
confute
,
seeing
it
is
about
two
hundreth
and
seuentie
yeare
olde
.
Perchaunce
hee
thought
it
rested
vppon
stronger
reason
,
then
hee
was
able
to
conuince
or
confute
,
and
therefore
hee
let
it
alone
.
Other
argumentes
are
also
alleadged
to
disprooue
this
supremacie
of
Peter
ouer
all
,
Out
of
which
wordes
howe
lightlie
so
euer
Maister
Bellarmine
woulde
cast
them
off
,
with
this
distinction
that
they
were
fellowes
in
preaching
,
but
not
in
gouerning
(
as
though
the
preaching
of
the
woorde
,
and
the
practise
or
gouernement
according
to
the
same
were
then
seperated
)
yet
Saint
Ambrose
and
Theophilact
vpon
this
place
doe
teach
,
that
there
was
no
inequality
betweene
them
,
and
that
Paule
was
nothing
inferiour
to
Peter
.
And
marke
howe
absurdly
he
woulde
daube
vppe
the
matter
,
it
is
nothing
to
me
saith
S.
Paule
to
the
Galath
.
2.
6.
what
ones
they
were
once
that
seemed
to
be
somewhat
.
Which
he
expoundeth
as
if
he
had
saide
,
howe
vile
soeuer
they
were
in
time
past
,
what
was
that
to
mee
?
I
conferred
with
them
,
for
now
they
are
great
apostles
.
If
Saint
Paule
had
so
meant
,
he
woulde
not
haue
said
that
they
seeme
to
be
somewhat
,
but
that
they
indeede
are
somewhat
.
And
thus
master
Bellarmine
,
rather
than
he
will
say
nothing
,
will
peruert
the
very
sense
of
scripture
:
for
these
wordes
,
no
doubt
,
are
expounded
,
by
those
that
followe
in
that
verse
,
they
that
seemed
to
bee
somewhat
gaue
nothing
to
me
.
Saint
Paule
also
without
asking
leaue
of
Peter
.
Corinthians
,
against
an
incestuous
person
,
he
giueth
counsell
concerning
virgins
,
he
did
set
order
among
them
concerning
prayer
and
the
eucharist
.
And
hee
called
to
Miletum
the
elders
of
Ephesus
to
giue
them
commaundement
or
aduise
concerning
the
church
there
.
And
yet
master
Bellarmine
would
make
vs
beleeue
,
that
the
iurisdiction
was
in
Peter
onely
,
authoritie
to
preach
in
the
rest
together
with
him
.
Samaria
,
Samaria
,
But
I
am
wearie
in
spending
time
about
his
trifling
cauils
,
who
though
he
cannot
soundly
refell
the
argumentes
that
are
against
their
doctrine
,
yet
will
hee
not
confesse
the
truth
,
and
so
giue
glorie
vnto
God
.
Hauing
thus
examined
I
trust
sufficiently
,
the
chiefest
thinges
alleadged
by
Maister
Bellarmine
,
concerning
these
two
places
of
Scripture
,
which
especially
they
rest
vpon
:
I
must
also
brieflie
examine
his
second
sort
of
proofes
which
hee
promised
to
vse
,
Peter
.
Wherein
I
shall
bee
the
shorter
,
because
many
of
them
,
are
rather
to
make
a
shewe
of
proofe
,
then
worth
alleadging
.
The
changing
of
his
name
from
Simon
to
Peter
,
Peter
,
And
for
that
they
woulde
prooue
the
supremacie
because
Christ
saide
to
Peter
pay
for
mee
and
thee
,
is
answered
page
thirty-sixe
.
That
hee
praide
for
Peter
it
is
not
singular
,
for
hee
praieth
for
all
that
the
father
hath
giuen
him
.
Marie
Magdalene
shoulde
bee
the
head
,
for
shee
sawe
Christ
first
,
yea
although
Peter
and
Iohn
did
runne
to
seeke
for
him
,
yet
hee
woulde
not
appeare
first
vnto
Peter
,
to
take
away
the
very
strength
of
this
their
argument
.
If
Christ
washed
the
feete
of
Peter
first
(
if
I
say
,
for
it
may
iustly
bee
doubted
of
)
must
that
giue
him
the
supremacy
?
The
like
argument
may
be
gathered
out
of
that
that
Christ
foretelleth
Peter
of
his
death
,
Actes
the
first
chapter
and
thirteenth
verse
.
And
for
the
twelfth
prerogatiue
,
where
he
maketh
Peter
as
the
good
man
of
the
house
,
to
gather
together
into
one
place
the
companie
of
Disciples
,
it
is
grounded
vpon
a
fiction
.
For
,
there
is
not
one
word
,
that
hee
gathered
them
:
But
there
is
somewhat
to
bee
gathered
against
Peters
Supremacy
.
For
,
although
hee
mooued
them
to
appoint
one
in
Iudas
his
roome
,
yet
hee
appointed
not
one
,
as
the
Pope
woulde
very
readily
haue
chalenged
that
priuiledge
.
Not
Peter
,
but
they
,
appointed
two
.
Peter
.
If
maister
Bellarmine
would
reply
that
these
actions
yet
must
be
performed
by
one
,
and
by
likelihoode
this
one
shoulde
be
Peter
,
wee
will
not
sticke
to
graunt
him
so
much
.
But
if
Peter
had
beene
supreame
head
of
the
church
,
heere
had
beene
good
occasion
to
haue
named
him
as
direttor
in
these
actions
,
which
wee
see
is
not
done
.
The
thirteenth
prerogatiue
Peter
first
preached
after
the
receiuing
of
the
holieghost
.
And
herein
the
Popes
can
not
claime
to
bee
Peters
successours
.
Hee
wrought
the
first
myracle
,
Peter
,
which
shoulde
not
haue
beene
doone
,
if
it
had
beene
any
argument
for
Peters
supremacie
,
For
the
fifteenth
prerogatiue
commeth
the
destruction
of
Ananias
and
Saphira
,
which
was
by
that
power
that
GOD
gaue
,
not
to
Peter
onely
,
but
to
them
all
,
Marke
the
sixeteenth
chapter
,
and
seuenteenth
and
eighteenth
verses
:
yea
,
and
also
vnto
Saint
Paul
although
hee
were
not
one
of
the
twelue
.
Publius
,
that
lay
sicke
of
a
feuer
and
a
flixe
and
strooke
Elymas
with
blindenesse
,
healed
one
borne
Iame
at
Lystra
.
The
sixteenth
prerogatiue
is
taken
out
of
the
ninth
chapter
of
the
Actes
of
the
Apostles
,
Wee
will
admit
(
although
it
iustly
may
be
doubted
of
)
that
which
is
the
ground
of
this
seuenteenth
prerogatiue
,
It
is
a
token
that
the
Church
(
seeing
the
persecution
that
nowe
beganne
against
the
godly
,
and
that
Peter
also
a
woorthy
minister
of
the
worde
,
and
a
great
apostle
was
in
danger
)
was
very
carefull
for
his
preseruation
.
But
this
doeth
not
prooue
him
to
be
the
head
of
the
church
,
Paule
,
Actes
the
seuenteenth
chapter
and
tenth
verse
,
in
sending
him
away
to
Berea
,
by
night
,
for
his
better
safety
,
or
letting
him
downe
by
a
windowe
in
a
basket
,
Of
the
nineteenth
I
haue
spoken
before
,
pag.
10.
The
twenteenth
prerogatiue
,
Paule
went
to
Hierusalem
to
see
Peter
.
What
,
Theophilact
,
Firstnesse
,
is
ascribed
vnto
Peter
of
the
fathers
in
respect
of
time
as
in
the
place
alleaged
here
out
of
Ciprian
,
This
place
is
alleadged
by
master
Bellarmine
often
,
to
proue
Peters
supremacy
or
iurisdiction
ouer
others
.
But
the
wordes
are
very
plaine
that
Cyprian
speaketh
,
of
his
being
first
,
not
in
dignity
,
but
in
tune
,
as
appeareth
not
onely
in
that
he
saith
he
was
first
chosen
,
but
also
,
by
the
wordes
of
newe
ones
or
after-commers
.
But
maister
Bellarmine
wil
say
,
fellowe
elder
,
with
them
that
were
meaner
then
apostles
.
Therefore
to
be
a
chiefe
man
,
And
thus
much
to
proue
,
that
that
is
not
sufficient
,
which
maister
Bellarmine
saith
will
serue
the
turne
,
to
proue
that
the
fathers
say
that
Peter
was
head
,
The
proposition
is
this
that
Christ
gaue
iurisdiction
vnto
Peter
,
ouer
the
vniuersal
church
.
The
chiefest
profes
that
either
they
all
haue
,
or
that
maister
Bellarmine
can
alleadge
,
is
out
of
Saint
Matthew
the
xvi
.
where
they
say
this
iurisdiction
is
promised
,
and
Saint
Iohn
xxi
.
where
they
say
it
is
giuen
,
which
their
interpretation
as
I
haue
shewed
cannot
stand
with
the
text
it selfe
or
the
interpretations
of
the
sounder
fathers
.
His
second
reason
which
consisteth
of
the
prerogatiues
which
Saint
Peter
had
,
is
grounded
either
vpon
fables
,
that
deserue
no
credit
,
or
vpon
impertiment
matters
,
that
proue
nothing
to
the
purpose
,
as
if
I
be
forced
hereafter
therto
,
I
doubt
not
by
Gods
grace
with
ease
to
proue
.
His
third
and
last
reason
,
is
of
it selfe
sufficient
to
shew
,
that
themselues
haue
no
great
hope
to
proue
it
to
be
a
catholike
doctrine
,
that
is
a
doctrine
taught
and
beleeued
of
all
the
godly
,
Vincentius
Lyrinensis
thus
defyneth
catholike
.
But
the
first
authour
that
maister
Bellarmine
alleadgeth
,
Now
I
must
also
take
a
view
of
the
maior
proposition
which
is
this
,
Peter
,
and
not
to
the
rest
of
the
apostles
,
al
that
belongeth
to
the
church
of
Rome
.
And
master
Bellarmine
beginneth
to
prooue
this
in
his
second
Booke
,
beginning
with
Peters
being
at
Rome
.
But
whether
he
were
there
or
not
,
it
maketh
no
great
matter
.
For
it
is
laide
of
Paule
,
and
Marke
,
and
others
,
that
they
were
there
also
,
but
that
maketh
them
not
supreame
heades
of
the
church
.
But
,
whereas
he
confidently
affirmes
,
Romanes
,
and
founded
the
church
there
,
because
perchance
he
thereupon
would
inferre
,
that
he
was
then
bishop
of
Rome
:
it
is
not
amisse
to
examin
his
proofe
herein
.
First
,
Iraeney
,
that
the
church
of
Rome
was
founded
by
Peter
and
Paule
,
maketh
nothing
for
proofe
of
Peters
first
founding
the
church
there
:
for
Iraeny
maketh
them
both
alike
in
that
worke
.
Neither
by
founding
the
church
can
be
meant
the
first
beginning
of
the
same
,
but
rather
,
that
they
by
their
testimony
and
death
,
did
confirme
the
godlie
there
,
and
perfected
and
established
the
church
that
was
already
begunne
by
all
likelihoode
,
as
after
shall
be
shewed
.
And
whereas
master
Bellarmine
addeth
to
Iraeny
his
own
glose
,
that
is
to
say
(
saith
he
)
first
of
Peter
,
and
after
of
Peter
and
Paule
,
as
it
is
affirmed
without
proofe
,
so
it
may
go
without
answere
.
That
which
he
reciteth
out
of
Eusebius
for
Peters
first
preaching
Arnobius
,
who
saith
that
Rome
was
conuerted
to
Christ
,
Simon
Magus
had
caused
,
to
bee
blowen
awaie
with
the
blast
of
Peters
mouth
,
may
well
bee
vnderstoode
of
the
more
plentifull
conuersion
of
christians
there
,
not
because
there
were
none
before
.
For
I
will
say
nothing
of
the
iust
causes
that
may
be
alleadged
,
to
doubt
of
this
storie
alleadged
out
of
Agisippus
of
Simon
Magus
his
fierie
charetes
.
And
Epiphanius
is
wrong
delt
withall
by
maister
Bellarmine
.
For
whereas
hee
saieth
,
Theodosius
.
Peter
.
But
this
doeth
not
proue
,
Priscilla
,
Aquila
,
Andronicus
and
Iunia
.
Iunia
,
that
they
were
notable
among
the
apostles
,
because
their
ministery
was
so
necessary
for
the
church
there
,
(
for
he
doeth
not
in
anie
other
Epistle
speake
of
them
.
)
But
in
this
epistle
Sadolet
saith
that
Saint
Paule
doth
giue
vnto
them
,
this
great
commendation
,
that
they
might
haue
the
better
credite
among
the
godly
at
Rome
,
and
the
greater
reuerence
,
might
be
shewed
towardes
them
,
in
discussing
and
ending
of
these
controuersies
,
which
were
begunne
amongst
them
,
and
for
staying
of
which
Saint
Paule
doth
write
this
Epistle
as
Sadolet
confesseth
.
And
of
these
Primasius
an
ancient
father
saith
in
like
sorte
,
Paule
,
who
woulde
not
builde
vppon
anothers
foundation
,
as
he
writeth
vnto
the
Romanes
,
would
not
haue
taken
vpon
him
to
haue
decided
their
controuersies
,
and
to
haue
commended
vnto
them
the
ministerie
of
others
also
to
that
ende
,
but
would
either
not
at
all
haue
medled
with
them
,
or
haue
put
them
in
minde
of
Peter
their
Bishop
.
Peter
,
if
he
first
had
planted
the
church
and
his
seat
there
.
Neither
would
the
Iewes
(
who
in
euery
place
were
Peters
especiall
charge
)
that
were
at
Rome
,
when
Paule
came
thither
,
bee
so
desirous
to
be
instructed
of
Paule
as
they
were
,
Peter
,
and
he
had
beene
their
Bishop
and
had
beene
there
at
this
time
(
for
this
Epistle
was
written
long
after
they
say
that
he
was
bishop
of
Rome
)
or
if
they
had
knowne
their
owne
bishop
,
to
be
the
vniuersall
bishop
or
head
of
all
others
.
And
thus
I
trust
,
that
notwithstanding
all
that
out
of
some
doubtfull
sentences
of
ancient
writers
,
maister
Bellarmine
hath
gathered
,
yet
this
point
is
not
so
cleere
for
the
church
of
Rome
,
as
they
would
perswade
the
world
that
it
is
.
But
rather
the
contrary
appeareth
most
true
,
that
Peter
was
not
the
first
that
preached
at
Rome
.
As
for
that
which
maister
Bellarmine
doth
alleadge
concerning
Saint
Markes
gospell
,
As
for
that
which
hee
saieth
of
the
ouercomming
of
Simon
Magus
by
Peter
,
Luke
,
who
tooke
vpon
him
to
write
the
actes
and
doings
of
the
Apostles
,
Simon
Magus
,
although
in
the
eight
Chapter
where
he
reporteth
some
talke
betweene
Simon
Magus
and
Peter
,
very
good
occasion
had
beene
offered
,
neither
yet
Saint
Marke
Saint
Peters
owne
disciple
,
writing
at
Rome
mentioneth
it
.
And
therefore
howsoeuer
some
of
the
ancient
writers
,
being
deceiued
by
Egisippus
,
haue
thought
of
this
fable
:
yet
I
haue
I
trust
good
reason
and
sufficient
warrant
not
to
credit
the
same
.
Now
whether
Peter
died
at
Rome
or
not
,
Bellarmine
,
I
will
not
much
gaine
say
it
,
because
I
would
especially
stand
vpon
the
most
materiall
pointes
,
that
belong
to
the
proofe
of
their
maior
proposition
,
which
is
,
that
Peters
prerogatiues
,
belong
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
(
if
wee
will
beleeue
the
papists
)
by
Christs
institution
.
And
herein
I
would
craue
of
the
indifferent
reader
,
For
maister
Bellarmine
maketh
a
proud
but
a
false
brag
,
that
it
hath
the
testimony
and
consent
of
all
the
ancient
writers
.
Secondly
whereas
hee
will
prooue
that
he
was
Bishoppe
of
Rome
,
Peter
,
But
I
haue
sundry
strong
argumentes
to
induce
not
my selfe
onlie
,
And
first
I
will
constantly
affirme
,
that
master
Bellarmine
and
all
the
Iesuites
that
take
his
part
,
shal
not
be
able
to
prooue
,
that
the
fathers
of
the
first
two
hundreth
yeares
,
that
are
of
good
account
or
credite
(
for
in
this
case
I
except
what
their
Popes
and
counterfet
fathers
haue
written
or
taught
)
that
Peter
was
Bishop
of
Rome
.
Which
beeing
prooued
,
it
is
as
cleare
as
the
noone
day
,
that
is
this
not
catholicke
doctrine
.
Themselues
must
needes
confesse
it
.
Paule
.
In
both
places
hee
had
good
occasion
to
haue
vrged
them
with
Peters
supremacie
,
but
especially
he
should
haue
put
the
Romanes
in
minde
of
Peter
,
if
hee
had
beene
their
bishop
.
And
should
haue
said
I
doe
not
inioyne
you
these
thinges
as
Peter
,
who
was
your
bishop
.
But
the
greatest
matter
that
he
espieth
in
Peter
and
Paule
,
is
that
they
are
apostles
.
And
writing
vnto
the
Ephesians
,
How
happeneth
that
in
this
reckoning
of
these
goodly
couples
the
Ephesians
and
their
bishoppe
,
the
church
and
Christ
,
Christ
and
God
,
there
is
not
any
mention
of
Peter
or
his
successour
?
Doubtlesse
as
yet
this
conceit
was
not
hatched
,
which
yet
more
plainely
maie
be
seene
in
that
exhortation
that
he
maketh
to
the
Saintes
in
Smirna
to
honour
God
as
the
maker
and
Lorde
of
all
,
Peter
.
Iustinus
Martir
who
wrote
about
the
yeare
147.
doth
neuer
so
much
as
make
mention
of
Peter
being
bishop
of
Rome
,
although
in
his
second
Apologie
he
maketh
mention
of
Simon
Magus
how
hee
was
honoured
at
Rome
(
but
not
of
his
fierie
chariots
destroied
by
Peter
,
Peter
,
that
he
was
bishop
there
,
but
onely
,
that
Peter
and
Paul
did
plant
the
church
there
.
And
in
the
same
place
Eusebius
reporteth
of
Caius
,
who
(
as
he
saith
)
was
made
bishop
of
Rome
after
Zephirinus
)
which
Zephirinus
died
the
yeare
of
the
Lord
two
hundred
and
twentie
)
that
he
writing
vnto
Proclus
an
hereticke
,
put
him
in
minde
of
the
monuments
of
the
Apostles
that
he
could
shew
.
Whereas
hee
might
haue
made
a
better
bragge
,
to
hane
serued
for
his
purpose
,
if
hee
could
haue
told
them
,
of
Peters
chaire
.
But
as
yet
there
was
no
such
matter
knowen
.
As
for
that
which
master
Bellarmine
himselfe
aleageth
out
of
Irenie
,
it
proueth
nothing
for
him
.
For
in
saying
,
that
Peter
and
Paul
together
did
found
a
church
there
,
Ireny
,
who
liued
after
Christ
not
much
lesse
then
two
hundred
yeares
.
And
therefore
this
doctrine
,
doth
easily
appeare
not
to
be
catholike
,
and
the
godly
fathers
which
slace
haue
affirmed
,
that
he
was
bishop
of
Rome
,
either
do
so
call
him
in
respect
of
the
worke
of
a
bishop
,
which
(
if
he
were
there
)
by
his
care
of
Gods
flocke
,
and
constancie
in
his
truth
he
did
shew
,
or
else
they
teach
that
which
had
not
bin
taught
in
the
dayes
next
vnto
the
apostles
times
.
A
second
argument
that
vnanswerably
prooueth
this
to
be
no
catholike
doctrine
,
is
the
dissenting
of
the
most
ancient
authors
that
they
alleage
,
from
themselues
in
this
point
,
wherin
they
affirme
that
Peter
was
bishop
of
Rome
.
For
Ireny
,
who
is
first
alleaged
of
master
Bellarnine
,
Tertulian
,
whome
in
the
second
place
he
produceth
,
then
also
Epiphanius
and
Dionysius
bishop
of
Corinth
out
of
Eusebius
do
al
with
one
consent
ioyne
Peter
and
Paul
together
,
I
say
not
Peter
onely
,
so
that
vnto
the
one
as
well
as
vnto
the
other
belongeth
that
dignitie
by
their
records
.
And
Damasus
himselfe
a
pope
(
I
maruel
if
he
would
erre
in
this
point
)
saith
that
Peter
came
to
Rome
Nero
being
emperour
,
Origen
,
how
Peter
in
the
latter
end
of
his
life
came
to
Rome
,
and
therefore
he
is
not
like
to
be
Bishoppe
there
xxv
.
yeares
.
This
doubtfulnesse
and
vnconstancie
of
their
deliuering
this
doctrine
,
is
an
infalible
argument
that
there
was
not
in
those
times
,
any
catholike
doctrine
taught
of
this
matter
,
but
that
men
might
thinke
thereof
,
as
they
saw
cause
.
But
now
it
is
no
lesse
then
heresie
to
denie
that
Peter
was
Bishoppe
of
Rome
.
Now
if
vnto
this
that
hath
bin
said
,
For
my
intent
is
not
directly
to
proue
,
that
Peter
came
not
to
Rome
as
bishop
of
Rome
,
but
that
this
was
not
a
catholike
doctrine
for
two
hundred
,
or
almost
three
hundred
yeeres
after
Christ
,
and
this
disagreement
doth
proue
that
substantiallie
.
So
that
it
must
bee
another
answere
that
must
take
awaie
the
strength
of
this
argument
,
or
else
it
standeth
vnaswered
.
Neither
is
that
example
that
he
bringeth
of
the
vncertaintie
of
the
time
of
Christes
death
,
fit
to
proue
the
matter
in
question
.
For
all
are
agreed
that
Christ
died
,
Bellarmine
,
who
vpon
so
weake
proofe
,
will
make
so
certaine
a
conclusion
.
For
purposing
to
shewe
the
bishoppe
of
Rome
is
a
vniuersall
bishop
,
Nowe
considering
with
my selfe
,
the
weakenesse
of
the
two
postes
that
must
vpholde
this
building
,
I
though
he
might
haue
something
at
the
least
mistrusted
his
owne
cause
.
For
if
Peter
were
at
Rome
,
and
first
preached
there
,
doth
that
proue
,
that
therefore
the
Bishop
of
Rome
is
his
successour
?
But
by
that
meanes
all
they
that
came
afterward
in
the
places
where
he
preached
shall
bee
all
his
successours
,
and
not
onely
the
pope
.
The
second
ground
of
this
considerate
conclusion
,
is
,
that
he
imagineth
that
Peter
was
Bishop
of
Rome
,
and
so
died
.
But
the
vanitie
of
his
arguments
I
haue
discouered
before
(
I
trust
)
sufficiently
.
If
it
be
not
certaine
that
Peter
was
Bishop
of
Rome
,
then
must
this
succession
of
the
Bishop
of
Rome
to
Peter
,
But
it
is
vncertaine
as
I
haue
shewed
by
better
reason
then
master
Bellarmine
hath
shewed
,
that
Peter
was
bishop
there
:
Therefore
I
conclude
,
this
succession
also
,
must
needs
be
vncertaine
.
But
before
I
begin
to
examine
Bellarmines
euidence
,
wherby
he
will
proue
the
pope
to
haue
supremacie
ouer
all
the
church
,
the
Reader
must
bee
put
in
minde
of
that
which
before
I
haue
said
,
whereby
the
very
ground
of
this
supremacie
is
shaken
(
if
I
be
not
deceiued
)
namely
it
is
with
good
reasons
(
I
trust
)
denied
,
that
Peter
had
that
supremacie
ouer
the
whole
church
.
And
if
he
had
it
not
,
how
can
the
bishop
of
Rome
haue
it
from
him
?
Againe
,
we
must
consider
how
this
hangeth
togither
.
If
Peter
had
that
vniuersall
charge
,
and
was
bishop
of
Rome
also
,
that
therefore
they
that
doe
succeede
him
in
the
bishopricke
of
Rome
,
must
in
like
manner
that
vniuersall
charge
.
But
let
vs
heare
M.
Bellarmines
reasons
.
But
the
foure
first
I
of
purpose
omit
,
bicause
they
are
either
directed
against
Nilus
his
opinion
,
Nilus
,
that
seeing
Peter
had
this
supremacie
,
hee
must
needes
haue
a
successour
in
the
same
.
At
the
length
he
commeth
to
proue
that
the
B.
of
Rome
is
this
his
successor
,
reasoning
thus
:
either
the
bishop
of
Antioch
,
or
of
Rome
,
must
be
Peters
successor
in
the
supremacie
ouer
the
whole
church
.
But
the
bishop
of
Antioch
can
not
chalenge
it
:
therefore
Rome
must
succeed
in
this
vniuersall
bishopricke
.
That
Antioch
cannot
haue
it
he
shews
,
because
Peter
resigned
that
bishopricke
before
he
died
.
I
will
not
here
examin
or
cal
forth
your
witnesses
,
in
what
place
ye
find
,
that
Peter
gaue
ouer
to
the
bishop
of
Antioch
which
you
say
hee
had
.
But
I
will
aske
a
question
of
you
,
by
what
right
he
could
resigne
it
ouer
,
and
leaue
the
charge
that
God
committed
vnto
him
,
and
so
forsake
the
flocke
whereof
you
are
made
ouerseer
.
You
must
either
holde
your
peace
,
Marcellus
,
which
commaunded
him
so
to
doe
.
And
is
it
inough
that
Marcellus
,
But
wee
denie
first
,
that
Peter
himselfe
had
this
vniuersall
charge
.
And
in
this
respect
,
wee
thinke
it
a
verie
needlesse
matter
,
for
vs
to
beate
our
heades
about
his
successour
in
the
same
,
But
I
pray
you
,
what
meaneth
this
,
that
master
Bellarmine
taking
in
hande
to
write
of
the
controuersies
of
these
tymes
,
and
to
impugne
and
withstande
them
,
that
in
these
dayes
doe
speake
agaynst
his
Popes
supremacie
,
Nilus
,
who
is
much
more
friendlie
to
him
in
this
matter
chen
we
can
bee
?
And
for
the
sixt
,
as
also
his
other
arguments
that
may
any
thing
touch
vs
,
But
to
omit
the
shape
of
his
argument
,
let
vs
see
what
substaunce
there
is
in
it
.
And
if
it
bee
examined
,
it
hath
as
little
found
matter
,
Bellarmine
,
to
apply
that
vnto
Christ
our
head
in
the
church
which
S.
Paul
speaketh
of
the
head
of
a
naturall
bodie
,
whereof
he
hath
borrowed
a
similitude
,
to
teach
how
necessary
the
members
of
Christ
his
mysticall
body
,
are
one
to
an
other
,
so
that
none
may
without
wronging
himselfe
despise
another
?
which
collection
of
M.
Bellarmine
is
most
plainely
against
the
text
it selfe
,
and
the
iudgement
of
all
good
expositours
:
Nay
,
I
suppose
I
neede
except
no
expositor
but
maister
Bellarmine
himselfe
.
And
yet
we
haue
in
that
very
place
an
other
argument
of
his
.
For
a
man
may
see
that
he
was
sore
pained
in
trauaile
of
this
argument
.
For
,
seeeing
no
way
how
to
deliuer
it
well
,
he
was
faine
to
heape
vp
much
stuffe
in
few
lines
,
(
for
al
this
matter
is
contained
in
little
more
then
eight
short
lines
)
to
make
a
shew
as
though
he
had
much
to
say
,
when
as
that
which
he
said
is
farre
worse
then
iust
nothing
.
Well
,
let
vs
view
his
argument
.
Peter
:
therefore
Peter
must
be
the
head
.
We
flatly
deny
that
we
need
any
head
but
Christ
,
as
before
I
haue
proned
.
Lastly
,
Thus
we
see
how
master
Bellarmines
fift
argument
,
as
a
plenteous
spring
sendeth
forth
three
streames
,
but
there
is
no
cleare
water
in
any
of
them
,
but
bad
couers
of
a
bad
messe
.
And
what
is
all
this
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
if
Peter
must
haue
a
successour
?
For
,
as
we
deny
Peters
supremacie
,
so
may
wee
doubt
whether
he
might
be
a
bishop
,
being
not
an
apostle
only
,
as
were
the
rest
,
but
an
apostle
of
the
Iewes
,
wheresoeuer
they
were
,
we
doubt
of
his
resignation
of
the
bishopricke
of
Antioch
,
if
he
were
at
any
time
bishop
there
,
we
doubt
of
his
being
bishop
of
Rome
:
and
lastly
,
whether
this
succession
must
needes
belong
to
the
bishops
of
Rome
if
Peter
had
it
:
for
it
might
bee
personall
in
Peter
.
And
master
Bellarmine
,
who
in
other
questions
is
plentifull
of
his
reasons
,
and
will
make
some
reasonable
shew
of
proofe
in
this
greatest
matter
,
But
there
are
many
strong
reasons
that
moue
vs
to
denie
that
Peter
had
any
such
vniuersall
authoritie
ouer
all
Christs
flock
,
Peter
,
vnlesse
we
could
borow
master
Bellarmines
spectacles
,
by
which
hee
can
spie
that
one
pope
is
contained
in
these
words
,
Corinthians
,
But
for
my
part
I
confesse
my
sight
is
so
dimme
,
that
I
can
not
see
so
farre
into
that
mill
stone
.
These
and
such
like
reasons
,
beeing
compared
with
their
proofs
out
of
scripture
which
make
nothing
for
them
vnlesse
they
be
sore
wrested
,
from
their
naturall
and
true
meaning
,
doe
euen
proclame
it
to
the
world
,
that
this
doctrine
of
the
popes
supremacie
,
is
nothing
else
but
a
deuise
of
mans
braine
,
a
fruit
of
his
pride
.
And
thus
to
thinke
I
am
the
ealelier
perswaded
,
when
I
see
how
master
Bellarmine
toileth
himselfe
,
to
set
downe
the
state
of
the
question
For
although
in
the
beginning
almost
of
this
twelfth
chapter
he
promised
to
prooue
that
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
is
by
the
lawe
of
God
,
Balthasar
Cossa
,
who
was
pope
Iohn
the
three
and
twentieth
of
that
name
,
But
can
master
Bellarmine
find
no
better
stuffe
to
perswade
vs
to
beleeue
the
popes
supremacie
?
They
make
it
a
matter
of
damnation
not
to
beleeue
the
supremacie
of
the
pope
.
And
is
it
of
as
great
necessitie
to
beleeue
that
Paul
had
a
cloke
?
If
master
Bellarmine
be
so
perswaded
,
I
lament
his
follie
.
If
hee
thinke
otherwise
,
why
doth
hee
bring
it
to
prooue
that
to
beleeue
the
supremacie
of
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
is
a
pointe
of
the
catholike
faith
,
although
by
Gods
lawe
this
supremacie
cannot
be
prooued
?
And
as
they
stagger
in
setting
downe
by
what
authoritie
right
or
lawe
they
claime
this
soueraigntie
:
so
they
haue
no
great
proofe
for
their
manner
of
this
their
dignite
,
whether
it
be
personall
or
not
.
By
Christs
first
institution
master
Bellarmine
telleth
vs
it
was
personal
.
If
Christ
made
it
personall
who
could
change
that
estate
and
make
it
successionall
?
master
Bellmine
answereth
,
that
it
was
personall
,
generall
,
or
publike
,
so
that
it
belonged
to
him
and
his
successors
.
Whether
that
can
be
called
personall
,
that
is
to
say
belonging
to
the
person
onely
which
belongeth
also
to
his
successours
let
the
indifferent
Reader
iudge
.
But
how
is
this
prooued
that
Christ
gaue
this
prerogatiue
to
him
and
his
?
Againe
,
hee
saieth
,
that
this
succession
is
made
both
personall
and
locall
,
by
Peters
dying
bishop
of
Rome
.
But
as
alreadie
I
haue
proued
,
that
doctrine
of
Peters
beeing
at
Rome
bishop
is
not
so
certaine
,
that
christians
may
build
their
faith
thereupon
:
So
that
we
see
there
building
is
altogether
vpon
the
sand
,
their
proofe
weake
,
their
reasons
obscure
,
and
their
places
nothing
pregnant
for
that
they
are
brought
.
And
I
maruell
that
nowe
it
should
be
counted
heresie
,
not
to
beleeue
the
Romish
bishop
to
be
by
Gods
lawe
supreame
head
of
the
whole
church
,
Chrysogon
,
Luther
,
sheweth
himselfe
griued
and
displeased
,
that
some
diuines
of
good
accoumpt
,
did
so
earnestly
contend
for
their
friuolous
opinions
and
trifling
questions
,
namely
of
the
power
of
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
whether
it
be
by
Gods
lawe
,
or
by
mans
lawe
?
And
of
free
will
,
and
many
other
such
toyes
,
not
much
concerning
a
christian
man
.
This
cardinall
you
see
thinketh
it
not
worth
contending
for
.
And
I
am
verely
perswaded
many
moe
will
bee
of
his
mind
,
vnlesse
they
see
better
matter
then
master
Bellarmine
canne
bring
,
to
prooue
it
to
be
by
Gods
lawe
.
But
although
hee
haue
no
store
of
Scripture
for
him
yet
hath
hee
great
hope
in
councilles
and
fathers
.
And
I
assured
my selfe
that
the
councilles
,
if
hee
will
trust
them
,
will
most
plainly
decide
this
question
,
whether
that
superiority
that
the
church
of
Rome
challengeth
ouer
all
other
churches
,
be
by
Gods
law
or
mans
law
,
as
hereafter
it
shall
(
if
God
will
)
appeare
.
Nowe
therefore
to
examine
maister
Bellarmines
next
proofe
which
is
out
of
the
counsels
.
But
one
found
out
a
greeke
coppy
of
that
counsellong
since
and
in
that
saith
maister
Bellarmine
those
wordes
are
.
If
the
coppies
that
we
haue
,
haue
thus
long
beene
thought
true
and
good
,
I
see
no
reason
why
for
some
one
greeke
coppy
,
which
might
very
well
be
falsified
by
some
fauorite
of
the
church
of
Rome
,
we
should
discredit
that
which
hath
so
long
beene
receaued
:
especially
seeing
the
counsell
of
Chalcedon
,
the
matter
on
both
sides
being
discussed
and
heard
,
did
giue
vnto
the
church
of
Constantinople
as
great
priuiledges
as
the
church
of
Rome
had
.
Which
they
woulde
not
haue
done
,
but
that
they
sawe
Paschasinus
his
allegation
,
for
his
maister
the
bishop
of
Rome
(
for
he
was
one
of
his
legates
)
to
be
forged
.
Nay
if
that
Rome
had
gotten
this
prerogatiue
by
Gods
lawe
,
as
nowe
the
papistes
teach
,
Then
these
words
of
that
canon
of
the
Nicen
council
(
Because
the
bishop
of
Rome
hath
such
like
custome
)
must
also
haue
a
newe
interpretation
,
For
whereas
Ruffinus
,
who
liued
,
if
not
in
,
yet
very
neare
the
dayes
of
the
Nicene
councill
,
doeth
plainely
expound
,
And
that
the
godly
and
learned
men
,
who
sought
especially
the
good
of
the
church
,
did
cause
this
diuision
of
those
places
to
be
made
,
for
the
better
keeping
of
vnitie
in
the
church
,
appointing
vnto
euery
one
of
these
primates
or
patriarches
,
such
to
bee
in
some
respect
vnder
their
charge
,
as
they
sawe
were
(
for
such
considerations
as
were
best
knowen
vnto
them
)
most
likely
to
shew
themselues
willing
to
be
ruled
by
them
.
Yea.
and
the
lesse
compasse
or
circuite
of
iurisdiction
might
perchaunce
bee
appoynted
to
the
Bishop
of
Rome
,
because
that
thorowe
great
recourse
of
people
of
all
places
vnto
that
Citty
,
beeing
the
imperiall
Citty
,
hee
was
so
troubled
with
many
matters
of
al
mens
,
that
he
might
not
so
well
intend
and
looke
to
a
great
charge
of
his
owne
.
And
I
knowe
not
why
maister
Bellarmine
should
so
alter
as
hee
doth
the
worde
parilis
into
talis
,
but
to
gaine
as
much
credite
as
he
can
to
his
interpretation
.
For
,
parlis
consuetudo
which
are
the
wordes
vsed
by
the
Councill
,
Egypt
,
Lybia
,
and
Pentapolis
,
should
be
vnder
the
Bishop
of
Alexandria
,
because
the
Bishop
of
Rome
hath
such
like
custome
,
or
a
custome
equall
to
that
.
But
the
exposition
that
maister
Bellarmine
would
haue
to
stand
for
good
,
is
,
that
the
bishop
of
Rome
had
such
a
custome
to
appoint
the
Bishop
of
Alexandria
those
limittes
,
which
interpretation
howe
forced
it
is
,
how
it
cannot
aptly
be
gathered
out
of
the
words
of
the
councill
,
I
referre
it
to
the
indifferent
Reader
to
consider
.
And
because
this
word
parilis
equall
custome
,
will
not
stand
with
Maister
Bellarmines
sense
,
he
truneth
it
away
,
and
in
steede
thereof
would
vse
a
word
more
indifferent
for
him
.
And
so
(
good
Reader
)
thou
mayest
see
how
Master
Bellarmine
most
absurdly
reiecteth
the
plaine
and
old
interpretation
of
this
canon
which
Ruffinus
affordeth
vs
,
and
would
haue
vs
beleeue
a
new
glose
of
his
owne
,
that
must
quite
alter
the
sense
,
and
adde
much
to
the
wordes
of
the
text
it selfe
.
And
yet
when
antiquitie
serueth
their
turne
:
none
crie
out
for
Antiquitie
more
than
they
.
They
go
about
to
discredite
our
doctrine
,
because
it
is
newe
onely
,
and
yet
theirs
we
see
here
,
is
both
new
and
naught
,
and
yet
are
not
they
ashamed
to
bragge
,
that
all
that
they
teach
is
catholike
.
The
second
Councill
alleaged
by
Maister
Bellarmine
,
Constantinople
,
of
which
hee
saieth
out
of
Theodoret
,
that
they
came
together
in
that
place
by
the
commaundement
of
the
Popes
letters
sent
to
them
by
the
Emperour
.
The
more
I
reade
Maister
Bellarmine
,
the
more
I
find
and
mislike
his
euill
dealing
,
who
handleth
Gods
cause
nothing
sincerely
,
but
walketh
in
the
same
(
as
in
this
his
argument
may
easily
appeare
)
with
a
deceitfull
heart
.
For
first
to
make
the
matter
seeme
more
plaine
on
his
side
then
in
deede
it
is
,
hee
saith
,
that
they
came
to
Constantinople
at
the
commandement
of
the
Popes
letters
:
but
Theodoret
speaketh
nothing
of
any
commaundement
,
but
vpon
the
Popes
letter
.
The
like
also
is
in
the
letters
themselues
that
are
set
downe
in
the
Councill
.
For
it
seemeth
that
Damasus
,
whether
it
were
vpon
desire
he
had
to
christian
vnity
,
and
agreement
in
religion
,
or
else
because
he
sawe
the
emperour
Theodosius
bent
to
haue
a
councill
,
and
he
was
perchance
desirous
to
seeme
to
haue
some
saying
in
that
matter
,
or
for
any
other
consideration
whatsoeuer
,
wrote
vnto
the
Emperour
about
a
Councill
.
But
if
the
Pope
might
haue
called
a
Councill
,
hee
woulde
then
haue
directed
his
commaundements
vnto
the
Bishoppes
to
assemble
,
not
to
the
emperor
,
what
these
letters
were
it
is
not
knowen
.
If
they
were
to
require
and
intreate
the
emperour
to
call
a
Councill
,
it
maketh
nothing
for
proofe
of
master
Bellarmines
argument
,
or
the
popes
power
.
If
it
were
to
commaund
the
emperour
to
send
his
letters
to
them
,
or
to
cause
them
to
be
summoned
,
it
were
in
deede
somewhat
like
vnto
the
sawcy
and
vnmannerly
writings
of
these
prowd
prelates
of
our
time
,
but
then
neither
the
Pope
burst
so
to
commaund
,
neither
the
emperour
did
owe
,
or
would
performe
any
such
seruice
or
duety
to
him
.
But
the
report
of
the
Councill
it selfe
(
as
it
is
deliuered
vnto
vs
by
themselues
,
_
doth
sufficiently
declared
that
all
was
done
in
that
councill
,
Moreouer
out
of
Theodoret
,
that
the
emperour
consulted
with
Nectarius
,
what
course
were
best
for
quietnesse
in
the
church
,
they
came
to
the
emperour
to
take
some
good
order
in
these
matters
,
he
questioned
with
the
heretikes
,
concerning
the
the
triall
of
the
matters
in
question
:
he
tooke
order
that
both
partes
should
set
downe
their
minde
in
writing
,
hee
tooke
that
they
had
written
,
prayed
earnestly
to
God
to
direct
him
to
chuse
the
truth
,
tore
the
writings
of
the
heretickes
,
allowed
or
receiued
onely
that
docrine
that
taught
the
equalitie
of
the
persons
.
He
also
allowed
the
Nouatians
their
churches
in
the
city
,
because
they
were
in
this
point
constant
.
And
out
of
Sozomen
,
that
the
emperour
made
a
lawe
,
that
heretickes
shoulde
neither
haue
churches
,
neither
be
permitted
to
preach
of
the
faith
(
a
good
lawe
to
be
earnestly
thought
vpon
and
practised
in
these
our
dayes
)
nor
ordaine
bishops
or
others
.
All
these
things
being
set
downe
in
the
Bookes
of
Councils
,
by
them
deliuered
vnto
vs
,
who
can
thinke
that
Master
Bellarmine
,
who
alleadgeth
this
Councill
for
strength
of
his
cause
(
and
that
falsely
also
)
wherein
all
things
are
so
direct
against
him
,
would
see
the
truth
,
if
it
were
neuer
so
plaine
before
him
.
The
third
councill
is
that
which
was
assembled
at
Ephesus
,
&
that
also
M.
Bellar.
(
belike
by
some
wonderful
attractiue
vertue
)
wil
draw
to
his
side
.
The
third
Councill
(
saith
he
)
as
Euagrius
doth
witnesse
,
saith
that
it
deposeth
Nestorius
,
by
the
commaundement
of
Caelestine
bishop
of
Rome
.
How
now
master
Bellarmine
,
haue
you
quite
fallen
out
with
truth
,
and
made
a
league
with
falshood
?
Nestorius
,
and
they
willing
to
doe
him
that
honour
,
that
they
would
seeme
much
to
esteeme
of
his
zeale
in
faith
,
that
beeing
so
farre
distant
in
place
,
he
would
be
vnited
as
it
were
to
them
in
their
iudgement
against
Nestorius
,
they
shew
that
they
were
mooued
much
by
his
letters
,
and
incouraged
to
proceede
against
Nestorius
.
But
here
is
no
word
of
any
commaundement
that
he
gaue
them
,
but
rather
the
contrarie
.
For
they
call
him
their
felow
minister
,
and
so
acknowledge
not
him
to
be
a
commaunder
ouer
them
.
Yea
and
in
a
mandate
to
Philip
priest
,
vicar
or
vicegerent
to
Celestine
then
bishop
of
Rome
,
and
others
sent
to
Constantinople
,
they
tell
the
popes
vicar
plainly
,
and
his
felowes
thus
:
Wee
will
your
holinesse
to
vnderstand
,
that
if
you
despise
any
of
these
things
,
neither
this
holy
synode
will
ratifie
it
,
neither
shall
you
be
permitted
to
be
pertaker
of
our
communion
.
Yea
and
before
,
that
council
directeth
euen
the
popes
legate
and
the
rest
,
that
if
the
emperour
sent
for
them
,
they
must
in
any
wise
be
obedient
to
his
commaundement
,
and
must
not
refuse
to
goe
,
(
which
doctrine
were
heresie
in
our
dayes
)
but
they
should
not
agree
with
Iohn
of
Antioch
and
the
rest
,
but
vpon
such
conditions
as
(
not
the
pope
)
the
council
did
set
them
downe
,
vpon
the
paine
aforesaid
.
And
that
this
Councill
was
assembled
by
the
Emperours
,
is
in
many
places
declared
:
as
out
of
Euagrius
that
it
was
at
the
appointment
of
Theodosius
the
younger
,
and
after
by
the
commaundement
of
the
most
religious
Emperours
.
The
like
is
also
testified
,
in
the
superscription
of
the
former
mandate
,
that
I
haue
spoken
of
.
And
it
is
also
worth
noting
that
the
councill
writing
to
the
Emperours
,
for
the
credite
of
their
councill
,
doeth
not
vrge
that
the
pope
is
head
there
(
but
indeede
they
craue
that
Cirill
and
Memnon
,
not
Cirill
onely
whom
they
say
the
pope
Celestine
deputed
for
him
be
restored
to
them
again
that
their
councill
be
not
without
a
head
)
but
they
say
that
Celestine
Archbishop
of
Rome
,
praesidet
,
he
ruleth
not
,
he
coutroleth
not
the
councill
,
and
so
it
is
also
said
of
Aphrica
and
Illyricum
that
they
assident
sit
with
the
councill
.
And
out
of
this
that
hath
beene
spoken
as
also
by
such
other
thinges
as
in
that
councill
are
recorded
,
we
may
gather
what
truth
is
in
that
also
,
that
maister
Bellarmine
alleadgeth
of
an
Epistle
sent
by
the
councill
to
Celestine
,
reseruing
the
cause
of
Iohn
of
Antioch
as
more
doubtfull
to
be
decided
by
the
bishoppe
of
Rome
.
But
as
I
finde
not
any
such
Epistle
in
that
councill
,
so
this
is
plainely
written
,
in
the
report
that
the
councill
maketh
of
their
doings
to
the
Emperours
,
that
they
excommunicated
Iohn
(
of
Antioch
)
the
president
of
the
Apostatas
councill
,
Then
he
commeth
to
the
council
of
Chalcedon
,
Bellarmine
,
in
respect
of
some
fewe
excellent
names
that
may
be
giuen
to
Leo
bishop
of
Rome
,
whereof
also
it
may
be
he
was
worthy
in
respect
of
some
good
parts
that
were
in
him
,
it
will
I
say
bee
harde
,
by
such
names
,
to
proue
his
supremacie
by
this
councell
,
which
hath
almost
done
what
it
can
,
in
preiudice
of
any
such
prerogatiue
that
he
might
claime
.
But
what
doth
Maister
Bellarmine
finde
in
this
councill
for
the
popes
supremacy
?
But
there
is
a
great
difference
betweene
a
vniuersall
bishop
,
and
a
bishop
of
the
vniuersall
church
.
Bellarmine
.
Indeede
Paschasinus
the
popes
owne
legat
doth
call
him
pope
of
the
vniuersall
church
,
Caesar
Baronius
in
his
history
.
For
out
of
him
they
may
learne
that
Eleutherius
a
pope
himselfe
,
in
a
decretall
epistle
of
his
,
written
to
the
bishops
of
France
,
calleth
them
vniuersall
bishops
,
Philadelphia
,
the
bishop
of
the
common
church
,
and
so
Gregory
Nazianzen
speaketh
of
Athanasius
bishop
of
Alexandria
.
Which
Baronius
seemeth
thus
to
vnderstand
,
that
they
ought
to
haue
a
care
(
as
indeed
euery
man
should
haue
)
of
the
good
of
the
whole
church
.
And
these
names
of
head
of
the
church
,
And
in
this
sorte
is
it
giuen
for
a
rewarde
of
well
deseruing
,
and
to
incourage
them
that
were
able
,
Leo
,
saying
,
that
he
is
appointed
of
our
Sauiour
to
keepe
his
vine
,
they
speake
it
not
in
respect
of
his
being
bishop
of
Rome
,
but
in
consideration
of
his
excellent
giftes
of
learning
and
other
good
graces
,
wherewith
God
hath
indued
him
.
And
that
this
is
their
meaning
it
doth
plainely
appeare
,
by
those
things
that
afterwardes
in
that
councill
they
did
.
For
if
they
had
meant
by
those
wordes
,
The
fift
councill
that
is
heere
alleadged
,
Agapetus
,
Siluerius
,
and
Vigilius
:
I
say
besides
the
vncertainety
of
it
that
there
appeareth
,
But
we
say
that
he
is
not
so
by
the
word
of
God
,
which
hee
claimeth
to
be
,
and
maister
Bellarmine
promised
to
proue
,
but
he
cannot
doe
it
.
Neither
was
he
accounted
in
the
purer
times
of
the
Church
,
to
haue
that
supremacy
by
Gods
word
,
as
before
I
haue
spoken
.
And
for
the
first
popes
,
which
all
they
that
write
of
this
matter
recken
vp
in
great
numbers
,
I
trust
we
shal
not
hereafter
bee
troubled
with
their
names
,
because
maister
Bellarmine
hath
giuen
them
a
reasonable
good
discharge
.
And
first
commeth
in
Ignatius
who
writeth
to
the
church
that
ruleth
(
for
I
will
admit
the
worst
that
Maister
Bellarmine
or
any
other
can
alleadge
on
t
of
this
place
)
in
the
Romane
region
.
But
will
Maister
Bellarmines
logicke
conclude
that
therefore
the
church
of
Rome
hath
supremacy
ouer
the
whole
church
?
He
must
first
bring
the
vniuersall
church
within
the
place
of
the
Roman
region
before
that
can
be
Out
of
Ireny
he
hath
these
words
.
The
wordes
as
you
may
see
are
somewhat
hard
,
by
reason
that
he
who
translated
Ireny
out
of
greeke
,
did
here
,
as
in
many
other
places
translate
him
very
darkely
.
But
I
haue
englished
them
word
for
word
.
His
meaning
is
,
that
they
that
come
from
other
places
of
the
world
,
be
it
neuer
so
farre
off
,
yet
doe
not
alter
the
tradition
that
the
apostles
left
vnto
them
,
and
yet
many
must
needes
come
thither
,
because
that
in
respect
that
Rome
is
the
Imperiall
citty
,
the
church
also
hath
the
more
mighty
principality
,
and
so
in
deciding
of
causes
hath
the
more
reuerence
and
authority
.
And
thus
doth
he
proue
that
to
be
true
,
that
in
the
beginning
of
that
chapter
he
said
,
that
it
is
an
easie
matter
for
him
(
that
will
)
to
see
the
tradition
of
the
apostles
manifested
through
the
whole
world
,
because
that
from
whence
soeuer
they
do
come
,
yet
still
they
keepe
one
tradition
.
By
this
argument
doth
Ireny
confute
the
heretikes
,
because
the
tradition
of
the
apostles
being
kept
in
all
places
(
not
only
in
the
church
of
Rome
although
because
it
was
best
known
,
or
most
famous
,
he
bringeth
that
for
example
)
yet
no
such
doctrine
as
the
heretikes
speake
of
,
is
taught
among
them
.
But
nowe
maister
Bellarmines
vnseasonable
collection
out
of
this
place
,
is
very
farre
from
Irenies
meaning
.
That
it
is
necessary
(
saith
he
)
that
all
churches
should
hang
of
the
church
of
Rome
.
He
proueth
first
by
that
which
goeth
before
,
because
principality
is
giuen
to
this
church
:
secondly
of
that
which
followeth
,
because
hitherto
al
in
that
church
haue
kept
the
faith
that
is
in
being
vnited
,
Bellarmine
,
or
proue
his
intent
.
And
if
Ireny
had
meant
that
this
principality
had
beene
giuen
by
Christ
,
a
man
of
meane
vnderstanding
will
easily
thinke
that
he
would
haue
spoken
it
in
more
plaine
tearmes
.
But
what
neede
I
to
vse
many
words
?
the
place
it selfe
is
plaine
.
For
the
more
mighty
principality
(
saith
Ireny
,
)
if
he
had
thought
of
the
supremacy
of
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
he
would
haue
said
most
mighty
principality
.
For
more
mighty
principality
doth
but
make
him
better
then
others
in
some
respect
,
not
aboue
all
others
which
he
claimeth
to
be
.
So
that
to
proue
his
intent
he
must
haue
better
proofe
.
For
this
will
not
warrant
that
soueraigne
authority
of
the
bishop
of
Rome
.
Thirdly
,
that
which
maister
Bellarmine
would
tell
vs
out
of
this
place
,
that
all
churches
must
be
vnited
and
cleaue
to
this
church
of
Rome
,
as
their
head
&
mother
,
hath
at
all
no
ground
of
Irenies
words
.
And
thus
we
see
howe
he
doth
racke
and
rent
the
wordes
out
of
their
plaine
sence
,
to
serue
for
his
purpose
,
which
being
wel
weied
of
,
make
rather
against
them
,
and
their
supremacy
.
Epiphanius
is
his
third
witnes
,
Athanasius
.
So
that
the
intent
and
cause
of
their
going
to
pope
Iulius
,
or
pope
Athanasius
(
for
he
is
there
so
called
)
was
not
to
acknowledge
his
supremacy
,
but
as
it
was
known
that
they
had
erred
,
so
woulde
they
haue
it
well
knowen
that
they
reuoked
their
heresie
.
Neither
did
they
craue
pardon
of
their
offence
,
Iulius
,
but
we
must
make
him
head
of
the
church
?
Athanasius
also
his
letter
to
pope
Felix
is
alleadged
,
Arrians
,
and
wrongfully
dealt
withall
,
and
not
hauing
any
hope
that
the
greeke
Church
coulde
helpe
him
,
the
Emperour
himselfe
being
an
Arrian
,
the
rather
to
mooue
the
bishoppe
of
Rome
to
pity
his
case
saith
thus
.
For
this
cause
God
hath
placed
you
and
your
predecessours
Apostolicke
prelates
,
in
the
towre
of
height
,
and
hath
charged
you
to
haue
care
of
all
churches
,
that
you
should
helpe
vs
.
That
God
by
meanes
of
Constantine
and
other
good
Emperours
,
aduanced
high
the
Bishop
of
Rome
we
deny
not
.
And
we
also
knowe
,
that
those
good
bishops
did
much
good
with
that
their
authority
to
the
church
of
God
,
and
were
a
great
reliefe
to
the
oppressed
,
a
comforte
to
the
troubled
,
and
a
good
stay
for
religion
.
We
yeeld
moreouer
that
a
care
ouer
the
whole
church
a
belongeth
not
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
only
,
We
doe
not
yet
see
the
Bishop
of
Rome
to
haue
iurisdiction
ouer
the
whole
church
,
but
that
the
greatnesse
that
hee
hath
,
hee
should
vse
it
to
the
comfort
of
the
godly
.
But
indeede
the
Bishop
of
Rome
in
steed
of
the
care
that
he
should
haue
,
doth
exercise
the
power
that
he
hath
.
And
the
excercising
of
his
power
beganne
somewhat
soone
in
that
chaire
.
And
therefore
the
fathers
in
the
sixt
council
of
Carthage
as
it
seemeth
,
were
moued
in
the
canons
of
the
Nicen
council
to
alter
one
worde
.
For
hauing
agreed
in
the
ninth
canon
or
chapter
of
that
council
of
Carthage
to
heare
the
Nicen
decrees
read
,
when
they
come
to
the
sixt
chapter
,
where
the
Nicen
council
hath
,
that
the
bishop
of
Alexandria
should
hane
power
ouer
the
churches
of
Lybia
,
Egipt
,
&
Pentapolis
,
as
the
bishop
of
Rome
hath
within
his
libertie
,
Athanatius
,
it
hath
lesse
waight
then
any
of
the
rest
.
For
because
some
accused
the
bishop
of
Alexandria
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
therefore
he
concludeth
that
the
bishop
of
Rome
is
chiefe
iustice
aboue
all
,
and
may
take
vpon
him
to
iudge
all
matters
:
but
accusations
are
for
the
most
priuat
.
Basil
,
is
a
request
that
Basil
did
purpose
to
make
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
like
vnto
that
which
Athanasius
made
to
Felix
,
and
therefore
one
answere
doth
serue
them
both
.
But
in
that
epistle
Basil
calleth
Athanasius
the
Top
of
all
christians
,
which
name
they
would
faine
should
be
peculiar
to
their
pope
.
Gregorie
Nazianzene
was
not
woorth
blotting
of
so
much
paper
,
For
hee
saieth
the
Citie
of
Rome
beareth
sway
ouer
the
whol
world
,
what
is
that
to
the
church
of
Rome
?
And
that
that
is
alleaged
out
of
Chrysostom
in
the
first
place
is
not
much
material
,
because
Chrisostome
maketh
that
request
to
the
B.
of
the
west
church
,
and
not
to
Innocentius
alone
.
Yea
,
&
not
Chrysostom
only
in
the
same
his
epistle
,
but
Socrates
also
in
his
historie
testifieth
,
that
Chrysostom
appealed
from
his
aduersaries
(
not
to
the
pope
which
he
would
doubtlesse
haue
done
,
if
hee
had
taken
his
authoritie
to
haue
beene
such
,
as
now
the
church
of
Rome
would
haue
it
imagined
)
but
to
the
generall
council
.
And
not
hee
onely
appealed
to
a
council
,
but
the
multitude
also
were
readie
to
make
a
tumult
for
him
,
and
said
it
was
meete
the
matter
should
be
heard
(
not
by
the
pope
)
but
in
a
generall
council
.
Must
the
bishop
of
Rome
bee
the
supreame
head
,
or
else
this
request
be
in
vaine
?
He
being
,
as
it
is
alwaies
confessed
,
of
great
authoritie
,
(
although
not
so
great
as
they
imagine
)
might
either
by
intreating
,
or
by
authority
winne
many
to
be
of
his
minde
,
and
so
hinder
the
excommunication
of
Chrysostomes
aduersaries
.
So
that
none
of
these
arguments
can
conclude
for
the
popes
supremacie
as
we
see
.
And
yet
they
wring
whatsoeuer
is
said
or
done
to
the
church
of
Rome
,
Ciril
.
For
Ciril
did
thinke
that
if
Nestorius
would
not
reuoke
his
heresies
within
the
time
limited
by
Celestine
bishop
of
Rome
,
all
men
ought
to
shunne
his
companie
,
as
a
person
excommunicat
and
deposed
.
Celestinnus
,
he
doth
desire
to
know
of
him
,
whether
he
thinke
good
,
that
men
shuld
yet
communicat
which
Nestorius
,
or
they
should
shunne
his
company
.
And
what
if
Ciril
sawe
that
in
Celestine
,
that
he
thought
him
worthie
to
be
especially
regarded
in
these
matters
,
doth
it
thereupon
folow
,
that
he
would
haue
him
to
haue
soeuraigne
iurisdiction
ouer
the
whole
church
?
Or
if
hee
thinke
him
meete
to
deale
in
his
owne
matter
,
must
he
needs
giue
him
power
ouer
all
men
,
in
all
causes
?
Master
Bellarmine
must
make
new
logicke
,
before
he
can
prooue
such
bad
conclusions
.
But
then
to
mend
the
matter
,
he
bringeth
in
an
authoritie
that
is
not
to
be
found
in
the
Author
that
he
doth
aleage
for
it
.
But
wee
must
take
it
vpon
the
credit
of
Thomas
of
Aquine
.
They
shew
that
they
want
proofe
,
when
they
would
faine
call
againe
the
things
that
are
not
to
helpe
their
cause
.
As
for
Thomas
we
know
wel
enough
his
good
will
to
the
church
of
Rome
.
For
he
would
not
onely
ra●e
out
of
the
earth
these
sentences
of
Ciril
,
Chalcedon
.
In
which
councill
the
Bishop
of
Rome
,
had
his
authoritie
(
that
he
sought
for
)
much
abridged
.
Yet
I
say
Thomas
hath
found
out
euen
in
that
council
good
stuffe
,
to
confirme
the
authoritie
of
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
Melchior
Canus
telleth
vs
,
that
Gregorie
complaineth
that
in
his
dayes
they
were
blotted
out
by
heretiks
.
And
I
pray
you
,
howe
then
did
Thomas
of
Aquine
come
by
them
,
Dioscorus
.
Nestorius
,
Eutiches
,
and
all
heretickes
although
the
pope
had
receiued
him
to
communion
before
.
And
heere
before
I
goe
any
further
this
one
note
I
thinke
necessary
to
be
added
,
concerning
many
of
the
former
testimonies
.
Iulius
,
with
a
letter
ful
of
tauntes
and
threatnings
,
and
shewed
that
their
churches
were
as
great
and
as
many
as
his
:
finding
fault
also
with
Iulius
for
receiuing
such
to
his
communion
,
and
such
other
things
.
So
that
wee
see
that
they
did
not
account
the
Bishop
of
Rome
as
supreame
head
of
the
church
:
neither
doth
Sozomen
say
that
Iulius
his
seat
came
to
that
dignity
by
Christes
institution
,
or
by
Gods
law
,
which
Bellarmine
tooke
in
hand
to
proue
,
but
hath
not
brought
one
testimony
of
the
fathers
that
can
performe
that
promise
.
possessorio
,
they
say
they
haue
it
by
possession
,
so
many
haue
come
to
the
church
of
Rome
for
helpe
,
when
they
were
distressed
.
In
thus
many
cases
popes
haue
intermedled
in
other
bishops
charges
.
So
they
tell
vs
what
they
haue
done
.
But
the
question
is
how
iustly
,
by
what
right
,
law
or
authority
,
they
haue
done
many
of
the
things
that
they
haue
done
.
We
would
haue
them
plead
de
petitorio
.
Let
them
proue
their
right
.
For
it
is
true
that
long
since
the
pride
of
this
seat
did
beginne
,
abusing
Gods
good
liberality
,
and
the
fauour
of
godly
princes
towarde
them
,
still
increasing
in
that
ambitious
humour
,
vntill
they
had
set
themselues
aboue
all
.
Which
authority
when
they
had
once
gotten
,
they
did
shew
themselues
vnsatiable
and
cruell
,
despising
all
authority
,
and
making
their
wil
to
be
in
steede
of
law
,
as
shal
God
willing
in
the
proofe
of
their
practise
,
which
is
the
seconde
part
of
this
treatise
,
be
declared
.
But
it
doth
not
followe
,
they
haue
done
this
,
Simplician
,
that
he
had
so
due
regard
of
his
dutie
,
but
this
prooueth
him
not
to
haue
authority
ouer
all
because
he
had
,
or
at
the
least
should
haue
care
ouer
all
.
Liberatus
,
of
a
namelesse
bishop
of
Patara
.
What
matter
is
it
to
vs
,
or
what
strength
can
it
bring
to
his
cause
,
to
know
what
he
or
other
men
,
not
knowen
in
the
church
of
God
,
for
their
learning
,
iudgement
,
zeale
,
or
such
other
vertues
as
are
necessary
for
them
that
shoulde
be
witnesses
in
matters
of
religion
,
doe
thinke
or
say
?
Much
such
proofe
might
be
had
out
of
the
legend
of
lies
.
But
that
will
neuer
proue
their
doctrince
to
be
catholicke
.
Lastly
the
woordes
of
Iustitian
in
that
hee
calleth
the
pope
Iohn
the
seconde
,
Pontifex
maximus
.
The
greatest
bishop
,
and
yet
not
he
,
but
Liberius
was
then
bishop
of
Rome
.
And
for
this
name
head
(
as
I
haue
shewed
)
it
is
nothing
strange
in
all
societies
,
to
haue
a
heade
man
,
and
yet
he
not
to
haue
iurisdiction
ouer
them
.
By
all
which
it
appeareth
,
howe
weake
an
argument
may
be
drawen
from
these
names
which
may
be
common
to
so
many
,
to
proue
the
supremacy
which
the
bishop
of
Rome
challengeth
to
himselfe
onely
.
Nowe
maister
Bellarmine
hauing
wrung
what
he
can
(
which
is
not
much
)
out
of
the
fathers
of
the
greeke
church
,
commeth
to
the
latin
writers
,
to
try
what
gleanings
he
can
get
among
them
.
Whom
I
doubt
not
but
we
shall
finde
speaking
very
reuerently
of
the
church
of
Rome
,
Carthage
,
Cyprian
,
The
wordes
wherein
he
especially
trusteth
are
these
.
Peter
.
Whereas
it
is
most
certaine
that
Cyprian
doth
meane
nothing
els
here
,
then
in
another
place
where
he
endeuoureth
to
perswade
after
the
same
maner
and
by
that
very
argument
,
where
by
the
head
he
meaneth
that
which
the
apostles
taught
.
For
saith
he
if
we
returne
to
the
head
and
beginning
of
the
tradition
of
the
apostles
,
mans
errour
ceaseth
.
And
there
he
teacheth
vs
by
a
similitude
howe
we
should
come
to
the
heade
,
by
the
similitude
I
say
of
a
conduct
,
wherein
if
the
water
faile
we
goe
to
the
head
of
it
,
that
is
,
to
the
fountaine
,
and
so
from
thence
examine
the
want
of
the
water
:
so
saith
he
,
must
Gods
priestes
goe
to
the
beginning
when
there
is
any
question
of
Religion
.
And
that
he
meaneth
that
head
in
this
place
,
the
very
wordes
by
him
alleadged
do
prooue
,
because
the
former
wordes
put
vs
in
minde
of
returning
to
the
originall
or
beginning
of
the
trueth
,
and
the
wordes
that
follow
,
leade
vs
to
the
heauenly
doctrine
.
Well
then
,
the
head
in
this
place
doth
signifie
the
spring
and
fountain
,
from
which
our
doctrine
must
beginne
,
and
so
master
Bellarmines
argument
is
quite
ouerthrowen
.
And
hauing
proued
that
he
buildeth
his
reason
vpon
a
false
ground
,
I
trust
I
neede
not
bestow
any
more
labour
to
prosecute
him
in
his
wandering
wordes
.
Optatus
is
the
second
who
speaketh
nothing
to
helpe
this
desperate
cause
.
Peter
.
Optatus
a
bishop
in
Affrike
(
not
of
Rome
)
sitteth
in
Peters
chaire
.
Therefore
Peters
chaire
and
the
popes
chaire
are
not
all
one
,
vnlesse
their
doctrine
be
one
.
It
is
not
tied
to
Rome
,
or
to
that
church
.
But
alluding
to
that
place
of
Moses
his
chaire
which
our
Sauiour
Christ
speaketh
of
,
because
the
Scribes
and
Pharises
taught
that
which
Moses
did
teach
.
Bellarmine
.
The
church
is
called
Gods
house
,
whereof
Damasus
is
a
ruler
this
day
.
But
yet
the
words
do
not
import
any
such
thing
,
as
may
prooue
the
Supremacie
of
the
Bishop
of
Rome
.
For
,
wee
will
not
deny
that
the
Bishop
of
Rome
is
a
ruler
in
the
church
,
but
,
that
he
is
the
only
ruler
we
can
not
graunt
.
But
Saint
Ambrose
expounding
those
wordes
of
Paule
wherein
he
teacheth
Timothie
how
to
behaue
himself
in
Gods
house
,
Secondly
there
had
beene
a
very
great
schisme
or
strife
about
the
popedome
,
Damasus
,
so
that
many
of
both
sides
were
slaine
in
the
very
church
in
striuing
for
it
.
But
Damasus
in
the
end
obtaining
the
popedome
Saint
Ambrose
to
testifie
his
owne
perswation
,
and
to
assure
others
that
Damasus
and
not
Vrsicmus
was
bishop
of
Rome
,
although
he
stood
for
it
,
doth
take
occasion
heere
to
name
him
.
Thirdly
,
The
rest
of
the
places
out
of
S.
Ambrose
haue
no
waight
at
all
.
Millaine
,
so
are
also
the
churches
that
we
haue
allowed
in
England
by
authority
,
therefore
they
were
,
and
ours
are
heads
ouer
all
others
.
And
that
master
Bellarmine
will
not
allow
.
But
he
asketh
why
the
bishops
are
not
catholickes
that
agree
not
with
the
church
of
Rome
,
if
it
be
not
because
Rome
is
the
head
of
the
catholike
church
?
I
maruell
much
that
maister
Bellarmine
whose
wordes
go
for
oracles
with
many
,
will
shew
himselfe
so
ignorant
of
that
he
alleadgeth
.
For
if
hee
had
read
but
the
wordes
that
immediatly
doe
follow
,
Christians
,
and
Catholikes
,
After
he
alleadgeth
two
other
places
of
like
force
.
To
go
forward
,
out
of
saint
Ierome
hee
reasoneth
thus
:
Saint
Ierome
for
pope
Damasus
answered
:
Damasus
,
but
that
hee
must
thereby
tie
all
others
likewise
to
be
subiect
vnto
him
?
It
is
a
shame
for
men
so
to
deceiue
the
world
,
and
to
hasten
euen
their
owne
damnation
by
abusing
the
simple
in
such
sort
.
They
crie
it
out
in
euery
corner
,
that
there
is
no
saluation
to
be
hoped
for
,
vnlesse
they
doe
acknowledge
the
Bishoppe
of
Rome
to
bee
head
of
their
Church
:
and
yet
are
they
not
able
to
yeelde
so
much
as
one
good
reason
out
of
the
Scriptures
or
ancient
writers
of
the
purer
age
for
proofe
of
their
doctrine
.
It
must
bee
beleeued
as
an
article
of
faith
,
and
yet
they
coulde
shewe
no
ground
,
no
warrant
for
it
.
Out
of
saint
Augustine
is
alleadged
,
that
in
the
Church
of
Rome
,
Augustine
epist.
92.
he
desireth
pope
Innocent
to
helpe
them
against
the
Pelagians
,
which
maruellously
troubled
.
Palestine
and
Affrike
.
Now
out
of
this
will
he
conclude
the
popes
Supremacie
.
But
saint
Augustine
himselfe
denyeth
that
hee
had
any
such
meaning
,
in
that
he
was
one
of
that
sixt
councill
of
Carthage
that
so
stiffely
denied
supremacie
vnto
the
pope
,
seeking
it
so
earnestly
,
and
by
very
false
practises
.
And
the
Bishop
of
Rome
,
was
then
of
great
abilitie
to
doe
good
,
as
also
any
other
may
be
,
and
yet
not
haue
iurisdiction
ouer
them
that
seeke
for
that
good
at
his
hands
.
I
would
haue
them
to
bring
some
plaine
proofe
,
and
not
so
to
stand
vpon
strange
coniectures
.
In
the
last
two
places
saint
Augustine
commendeth
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
In
England
we
see
differences
of
bishoprickes
,
Prosper
,
it
were
hard
if
his
poeticall
amplifications
should
be
able
to
carry
away
the
weight
of
so
great
a
cause
.
But
for
his
words
if
he
say
that
Rome
is
Peters
seat
in
respect
of
the
doctrine
that
there
was
taught
and
maintained
,
as
before
Optatus
and
Augustine
(
of
whome
he
was
a
great
follower
)
haue
done
,
wee
yeelde
vnto
him
.
Otherwise
I
leaue
the
godly
Reader
to
the
arguments
before
alleadged
,
to
consider
what
he
should
think
concerning
this
point
,
whether
Peter
was
Bishop
there
or
not
.
And
where
he
saith
that
Rome
is
made
vnto
the
world
the
head
of
pastorall
honour
,
wee
yeelde
vnto
that
also
,
that
at
that
time
there
was
no
church
,
that
either
more
sincerely
did
keepe
that
which
the
apostles
taught
,
or
had
more
credit
and
authoritie
amongst
other
churches
then
Rome
had
,
in
respect
that
she
was
able
and
willing
to
do
good
vnto
many
other
.
But
where
he
saith
that
what
by
armes
shee
could
not
,
by
religion
shee
hath
subdued
:
is
not
simply
true
.
For
there
are
manie
that
neuer
were
nor
will
be
(
by
likely
hood
)
subdued
to
Romish
religion
.
But
in
some
respect
we
also
confesse
that
to
be
so
,
in
that
religion
subdueth
the
heart
,
and
winneth
the
affection
of
men
to
bee
subiect
,
whereas
that
outward
force
can
onely
preuaile
against
the
outward
man
.
Victor
Vticensis
who
calleth
the
church
of
Rome
head
of
all
other
churches
,
I
haue
often
shewed
that
it
may
truly
so
be
called
in
respect
of
the
authoritie
which
by
many
occasions
it
had
goten
,
not
in
respect
of
any
iurisdiction
that
Christ
gaue
vnto
it
,
more
then
to
other
.
The
next
is
Vyncentius
Lirinensis
,
Caeser
,
and
to
God
that
that
is
Gods
,
although
the
church
of
Rome
might
quite
blotte
out
of
their
bookes
that
lesson
,
for
any
regarde
that
they
haue
to
keepe
it
.
As
for
Vincentius
,
his
meaning
is
plaine
enough
to
them
that
will
see
the
trueth
.
For
hauing
spoken
of
sundry
places
from
whence
learned
men
came
to
that
councill
of
Ephesus
,
first
out
of
the
East
,
then
also
out
of
the
West
churches
,
he
nameth
Iulius
bishop
of
the
citty
of
Rome
,
which
citty
he
calleth
the
head
of
the
worlde
,
as
immediately
after
he
calleth
Carthage
one
of
the
South
,
and
Millaine
one
of
the
North
,
the
sides
of
the
world
.
But
if
he
had
made
so
very
great
accompt
of
the
church
of
Rome
,
as
in
these
daies
men
would
haue
vs
to
doe
,
he
would
haue
had
perchance
some
more
regard
in
placing
that
church
in
some
other
order
,
then
to
make
it
almost
the
last
that
he
mentioneth
.
Out
of
Cassiodor
a
senatour
and
a
great
officer
in
Rome
maister
Bellarmine
alleadgeth
somewhat
.
I
see
nothing
heere
that
can
helpe
maister
Bellarmine
or
his
cause
.
For
who
euer
did
thinke
otherwise
,
then
that
the
Bishoppe
of
Rome
,
was
a
watchman
ouer
christian
people
?
Or
who
will
say
that
the
Pope
hath
not
or
at
the
least
shoulde
haue
a
fatherly
affection
towardes
all
?
Cassiodor
liuing
vnder
the
popes
nose
,
is
content
either
by
this
praising
of
him
to
teach
him
what
care
he
indeede
should
haue
,
not
onely
to
doe
good
to
the
people
of
Rome
where
he
was
Bishop
,
but
also
as
occasions
should
be
offered
to
helpe
others
also
.
Or
els
it
may
be
that
hee
giueth
him
greater
praise
then
he
deserueth
.
But
what
is
this
for
the
popes
supremacy
?
Must
not
the
building
needes
fall
that
standeth
vpon
such
weake
propes
?
Much
like
is
that
which
followeth
that
the
seat
which
is
pope
Iohns
peculiar
place
,
is
giuen
generally
to
the
whole
worlde
,
that
is
as
I
take
it
to
doe
good
to
all
.
If
a
Romane
magistrate
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
doe
extoll
more
then
in
truth
he
may
,
the
power
of
that
citty
,
or
els
tell
how
farre
their
benefits
doe
extende
,
must
this
be
so
strained
and
wrung
to
prooue
supremacie
?
The
last
testimony
alleadged
by
maister
Bellarmine
doth
An●
in
this
Epistle
here
cited
by
maister
Bellarmine
,
Valentinian
sheweth
howe
Leo
came
vnto
him
,
told
him
of
the
diuision
of
the
East
church
,
and
great
troubles
there
.
For
indeede
Flauianus
a
catholike
bishop
was
deposed
by
Dioscorus
,
and
so
cruelly
handled
,
that
he
died
thereof
within
three
daies
.
Well
Valentinian
maketh
petition
to
Theodosius
,
That
(
the
bishop
of
Rome
)
may
haue
place
and
power
,
to
iudge
of
the
faith
and
of
the
priests
.
Which
request
made
by
Valentinian
,
in
the
letter
which
Valentinian
confesseth
that
Leo
requested
him
to
write
,
so
iumping
with
that
which
afterwards
Leo
in
the
councill
practised
,
may
much
perswade
vs
to
thinke
,
that
he
solicited
Valentinian
the
Emperour
,
either
plainly
or
couertly
,
to
moue
this
in
his
behalfe
.
Well
then
this
being
but
a
request
made
that
it
may
so
be
,
that
cannot
proue
that
it
was
so
,
but
contrary
.
And
what
reason
doth
Valentinian
the
Emperour
an
especiall
friend
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
vse
to
commend
his
suite
.
Antiquity
gaue
him
principality
of
priesthood
ouer
all
.
Wherein
I
first
note
that
not
Christ
,
but
ancient
custome
,
is
pretended
to
haue
priuiledged
him
.
And
here
againe
marke
howe
this
agreeth
with
that
which
was
afterwards
in
the
council
of
Chalcedon
obiected
by
Paschasnus
,
But
the
allegations
of
Valentinian
the
popes
solicitour
in
this
cause
,
and
of
Poschasimus
the
popes
legate
being
so
like
,
it
maketh
me
the
bolder
to
coniecture
,
that
they
were
both
forged
in
one
shop
,
because
they
haue
both
one
stampe
.
Thus
haue
I
taken
a
view
of
all
such
testimonies
as
are
alleadged
by
maister
Bellarmine
out
of
them
,
that
liued
within
600.
yeares
of
Christ
,
for
to
establish
the
pride
of
that
Romish
seat
.
I
haue
of
purpose
omitted
iii.
or
iiii
.
by
him
alleadged
,
because
they
wrote
after
the
time
that
Phocas
that
murthering
traitor
,
(
who
killed
Mauritius
his
Lorde
and
maister
for
his
Empire
,
hauing
first
killed
before
his
face
his
wife
and
fiue
of
his
children
,
)
had
granted
vnto
Boniface
bishop
of
Rome
third
of
that
name
,
to
be
supreme
head
ouer
the
whole
church
.
Wherein
although
I
haue
endeuoured
to
be
short
,
yet
I
trust
it
plainly
enough
appeareth
to
them
that
will
not
shut
their
eies
against
the
truth
,
that
although
the
church
of
Rome
had
indeede
in
regard
of
her
constancy
in
the
truth
,
and
power
which
shee
grewe
vnto
by
many
occasions
,
being
in
the
imperiall
citty
,
great
authority
amongst
all
other
churches
:
and
although
learned
men
were
by
their
distressed
estates
forced
many
times
in
their
priuat
seates
,
to
yeelde
to
that
church
more
interest
to
meddle
in
their
matters
,
then
of
right
it
had
:
yet
it
cannot
appeare
by
any
thing
that
they
bring
out
of
any
approued
record
,
within
the
compasse
of
those
yeares
,
that
the
church
of
Rome
was
either
by
Gods
lawe
,
appointed
the
head
ouer
others
,
which
is
indeede
the
point
that
they
should
proue
,
or
that
by
common
consent
of
the
godly
it
was
so
catholickly
receiued
.
And
yet
if
this
latter
could
haue
more
apparent
proofe
,
then
euer
Rome
or
Rhemes
can
afforde
in
this
cause
,
they
should
gaine
nothing
,
but
that
good
men
haue
either
ordained
or
tolerated
such
a
state
.
Which
howsoeuer
it
might
seeme
tolerable
,
when
many
good
men
possessed
that
place
:
yet
that
the
church
,
should
be
subiect
to
such
as
nowe
for
the
most
part
sit
in
that
seat
,
no
christian
heart
can
well
endure
it
.
But
now
this
labour
being
taken
in
hand
,
to
trie
the
popes
title
vnto
the
supremacy
,
or
how
he
pleadeth
,
or
what
claime
he
can
make
:
I
must
needes
giue
warning
to
the
christian
reader
,
to
marke
how
that
as
maister
Bellarmine
hath
said
little
,
or
rather
nothing
at
all
,
to
prooue
this
authority
of
the
bishop
of
to
be
grounded
vpon
Gods
lawe
:
so
be
hath
not
brought
one
council
within
the
said
six
hundred
yeres
or
any
thing
sufficiently
materiall
out
of
the
fathers
of
that
time
to
proue
that
by
mans
lawe
he
was
decreed
so
to
be
,
but
onely
somtimes
perchance
by
particular
men
vsed
,
as
if
he
had
authoritie
ouer
all
.
And
shall
this
be
accounted
a
catholike
doctrine
,
that
neither
God
nor
man
,
for
six
hundred
yeares
after
Christ
,
commaunded
to
be
beleeued
?
If
there
come
no
better
euidence
then
master
Bellarmine
can
bring
,
without
all
doubt
the
pope
will
be
found
,
to
be
but
an
intruder
into
other
mens
right
,
a
vsurper
of
other
mens
iurisdiction
.
But
master
Bellarmine
will
helpe
his
former
want
,
with
a
new
supply
.
Platina
.
A
very
fitt
patron
,
for
so
proude
a
prelat
.
And
after
that
the
pope
had
gotten
by
the
emperours
decree
,
this
glorious
title
,
yet
he
could
not
presently
get
quiet
possession
of
the
same
,
but
the
bishop
of
Constantinople
did
still
striue
for
that
name
.
Constantinople
,
is
not
to
prooue
him
to
haue
iurisdiction
ouer
him
.
That
which
out
of
Iustinian
he
alleageth
,
Theodosius
,
sauing
that
master
Bellarmine
incrocheth
somewhat
,
and
taketh
more
then
is
giuen
him
.
Sigebert
:
Beneuenutus
Imolensis
a
storie
commended
by
pope
Pius
the
second
,
by
his
adding
to
the
same
,
the
liues
of
foure
emperors
,
saith
that
Phocas
first
obtained
that
Rome
should
be
head
of
all
churches
.
If
he
First
obtained
this
title
to
Rome
,
if
he
did
institute
it
,
if
the
pope
obtained
this
of
Phocas
,
then
let
the
indifferent
reader
iudge
,
how
vntrewly
master
Bellarmine
saith
that
Phocas
did
but
declare
this
thing
,
and
that
it
was
before
.
Yea
what
needed
this
any
declaration
of
of
the
emperour
,
if
the
church
had
receiued
it
as
a
catholike
doctrine
.
Or
if
it
be
not
a
catholike
doctrine
,
what
meaneth
master
Bellarmine
,
to
make
so
false
braggs
as
he
sometimes
doth
,
of
the
consent
of
fathers
in
this
doctrine
.
And
thus
I
trust
I
haue
layed
open
the
vanitie
of
the
proofe
,
and
the
weakenesse
of
the
argument
,
whereby
they
indeuoure
to
strengthen
and
establish
,
the
tyranous
soueraigntie
of
the
church
of
Rome
.
For
if
Peter
had
no
such
iurisdiction
ouer
others
,
hee
could
not
giue
it
to
any
other
.
If
his
beeing
bishop
of
Rome
,
haue
not
any
such
ground
,
but
that
it
may
iustly
be
doubted
of
,
and
strong
presumptions
to
the
contrarie
:
then
is
not
the
popes
succession
of
Peter
,
so
certaine
,
as
they
would
haue
it
thought
.
Yea
and
if
Peter
were
bishop
of
Rome
and
if
hee
had
such
soueraigntie
:
howe
do
they
proue
that
it
is
bequeathed
to
them
,
to
what
person
,
howe
in
what
words
,
at
what
time
,
in
what
place
,
befor
what
witnesses
?
Al
which
things
how
weakely
they
prooue
,
hitherto
I
haue
declared
.
And
yet
to
goe
further
,
admitte
,
that
Peter
had
such
iurisdiction
,
which
cannot
bee
prooued
,
but
I
admit
I
say
that
hee
had
it
,
admit
also
that
hee
could
,
and
did
,
leaue
the
same
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
which
we
also
iustly
denie
:
must
it
therefore
cleaue
so
fast
to
that
chaire
in
Rome
,
Aaron
,
and
his
sonnes
by
name
Nadab
,
Abihu
,
Eleazar
and
Ithamar
to
serue
in
the
priestes
office
?
No
man
can
deny
it
.
And
yet
Nadab
and
Abihu
for
offering
onely
with
strange
fire
(
many
greater
offences
then
that
,
Phinehas
,
euen
a
couenant
of
the
priests
office
for
euer
?
Ithamar
,
and
taken
from
the
posteritie
of
Phinehas
,
so
that
,
not
so
much
as
his
sonne
succeeded
him
.
And
concerning
Eli
the
priest
,
And
this
was
performed
when
Abiathar
was
put
out
of
the
Salomon
,
and
Zadoc
was
made
Priest
in
his
steede
.
And
againe
,
If
hee
haue
left
Ierusalem
,
will
hee
tarry
at
Rome
?
For
euen
Ierusalem
that
holy
citie
:
Abraham
,
I
will
bee
thy
God
,
and
the
God
of
thy
seede
?
Genesis
the
seuenteenth
chapter
and
seuenth
verse
.
What
is
become
of
that
peculiar
people
of
God
,
the
Lordes
owne
inheritance
,
the
people
that
he
chose
to
set
his
name
among
them
,
the
vine
that
hee
brought
out
of
Egypt
?
Were
they
not
many
times
for
their
sinnes
,
a
pray
vnto
their
enemies
,
a
reproch
among
the
people
?
Hath
not
the
wild
bore
out
of
the
wood
so
deuoured
the
same
,
that
not
so
much
as
one
roote
of
it
is
knowen
to
grow
there
?
In
so
much
as
the
prophet
Esay
in
their
names
maketh
a
iust
and
true
complaint
saying
,
The
people
of
thy
holinesse
haue
possessed
it
but
a
little
while
,
for
our
aduersaries
haue
troden
downe
thy
sanctuarie
:
We
haue
beene
as
they
ouer
whom
thou
neuer
barest
rule
,
and
vpon
whom
thy
name
was
not
called
,
Esay
the
sixtie
three
chapter
and
eighteene
and
nineteene
verses
.
What
then
,
is
the
promise
of
God
of
none
effect
?
Will
not
God
be
as
good
as
his
word
?
Yes
doubtlesse
,
he
can
not
lie
,
hee
will
not
deceiue
vs
.
But
all
such
promises
haue
a
secret
condition
of
seruing
God
to
be
vnderstoode
.
And
if
we
on
our
part
(
I
will
not
say
performe
the
condition
,
for
we
can
not
doe
it
)
but
if
we
will
striue
and
indeuoure
earnestly
to
fulfill
it
,
no
doubt
but
hee
will
assist
vs
with
his
good
grace
,
and
embrace
vs
,
with
his
endlesse
and
infinit
mercies
.
But
if
we
hearken
onely
to
that
he
promiseth
,
and
regarde
not
that
which
he
requireth
,
we
deceiue
our selues
with
a
vaine
expectation
of
that
that
belongeth
not
to
vs
.
May
he
cast
off
his
priestes
,
whome
himselfe
appointed
to
be
his
priestes
,
who
had
that
office
by
succession
,
and
therefore
we
cannot
doubt
of
their
calling
?
And
because
there
haue
beene
many
wicked
popes
,
amongst
whome
himselfe
nameth
Steuen
the
sixt
Leo
the
fifth
Christopher
the
first
,
Forsooth
because
if
the
bishop
of
Rome
had
not
beene
of
Gods
appointment
(
saith
he
)
and
that
church
the
true
church
,
it
coulde
not
haue
stood
and
continued
so
long
,
being
so
full
fraught
with
so
many
sinnes
.
But
that
is
it
that
is
in
question
whether
the
church
of
Rome
be
the
true
church
or
not
.
We
deny
it
,
wee
finde
not
in
it
the
ancient
faith
,
the
doctrine
of
the
apostles
,
the
sincere
word
.
Wee
see
not
there
,
the
pure
administration
of
Gods
holy
Sacraments
.
They
teach
vs
outward
hypocrisie
for
true
holines
,
foolish
toyes
,
for
spirituall
worshipping
.
These
and
such
like
things
doe
strongly
perswade
vs
,
that
God
hath
done
to
Rome
as
he
hath
done
to
Silo
and
to
Ierusalem
long
since
,
and
will
he
prooue
it
to
be
the
true
church
because
the
bishops
are
euill
?
Now
if
the
name
and
outward
shew
of
a
church
,
haue
so
blinded
the
eies
of
maister
Bellarmine
,
that
hee
will
,
that
it
must
needs
be
as
it
is
called
,
that
is
to
say
,
the
catholicke
church
,
As
therefore
we
see
not
in
the
church
of
Rome
when
we
try
their
doctrines
,
any
probability
that
they
are
the
true
church
of
Christ
:
so
we
set
this
downe
as
the
infallible
course
of
his
iudgments
,
with
whom
it
is
counted
a
righteous
thing
,
to
set
himselfe
against
such
as
delight
in
sinne
,
that
he
that
spared
not
the
angels
that
left
their
first
estate
,
neither
delighted
in
his
owne
people
whom
he
had
brought
out
of
Aegypt
when
they
sinned
against
him
,
Thus
then
we
see
that
God
left
the
priests
,
whom
he
had
appointed
,
the
people
,
whom
he
had
brought
out
of
Aegypt
,
and
taken
to
be
his
peculiar
inheritance
,
the
place
,
that
hee
had
chosen
,
the
temple
,
that
hee
commaunded
to
be
made
,
because
of
their
sinnes
.
Let
these
things
make
vs
with
indifferent
iudgement
,
and
without
partialitie
to
trie
,
whether
God
be
also
departed
from
that
church
of
Rome
or
not
.
For
there
is
no
doubt
,
but
if
any
people
whatsoeuer
,
sinnes
as
they
did
,
they
may
also
be
punished
as
they
were
:
But
that
church
of
Rome
hath
sinned
,
in
as
abundant
measure
,
as
euer
did
Ierusalem
,
as
themselues
and
their
owne
stories
doe
shew
,
therefore
why
should
they
flatter
themselues
imagining
that
God
will
not
deale
with
her
,
as
he
hath
dealt
with
others
.
And
here
wee
may
consider
howe
vntrue
that
popish
position
is
,
that
the
church
of
Rome
,
or
the
Bishoppe
of
Rome
can
not
erre
.
Can
hee
sinne
?
They
confesse
that
hee
can
not
.
Yea
,
and
their
owne
sinnes
doe
record
such
sinnes
of
theirs
,
as
ascend
vp
before
the
Lord
,
and
cry
vnto
God
for
vengeance
.
No
doubt
then
but
such
may
erre
,
and
fall
into
heresies
also
.
For
it
is
truely
said
of
Saint
Augustine
,
that
men
by
their
sinnes
doe
fall
into
heresies
,
and
heresies
are
the
very
punishment
for
sinne
.
For
he
that
is
the
iust
iudge
,
must
needes
poure
foorth
his
wrath
,
Thus
then
wee
see
howe
sinne
deserueth
,
that
God
in
his
wrath
shoulde
strike
with
blindnesse
,
such
as
do
delight
therein
.
For
when
the
loue
of
the
trueth
is
not
receiued
,
God
sendeth
vnto
such
as
refuse
the
trueth
,
strong
illusions
,
that
they
should
beleeue
lies
,
Thessalo
.
2.
10.
11.
And
if
you
would
haue
example
thereof
,
none
is
better
then
Salamon
,
who
was
for
wisedome
the
wonder
of
the
world
,
and
yet
when
he
gaue
himselfe
to
sinne
with
women
,
he
was
by
that
meanes
drawen
to
idolatrie
:
In
somuch
as
Nehemiah
,
Therfore
also
he
preuaileth
against
Gods
people
by
that
wicked
practise
.
Pighius
,
but
reiecteth
his
opinion
,
who
although
that
the
pope
cannot
be
an
hereticke
,
or
teach
heresie
openly
though
he
alone
define
of
any
thing
.
But
master
Bellarmine
will
walke
in
a
middle
path
which
is
this
:
that
whether
,
the
Pope
may
bee
an
hereticke
or
not
,
he
cannot
set
down
any
heresie
,
to
be
beleeued
of
the
whole
church
,
wherein
this
conditionall
manner
of
speaking
,
(
if
or
whether
he
be
an
hereticke
or
not
)
doeth
shewe
his
doubtfulnesse
in
this
question
.
But
because
he
is
perchance
in
the
next
chapters
especially
in
the
fift
chapter
of
a
more
resolute
opinion
,
I
vrge
not
this
point
any
further
.
But
this
is
his
flat
resolution
,
Against
which
doctrine
I
briefely
oppose
2.
or
3.
arguments
.
The
first
is
that
which
immediatly
before
I
touched
.
Hee
may
sinne
they
deny
it
not
:
The
selfesame
spirit
which
is
the
spirit
of
truth
,
That
he
would
sanctifie
them
with
his
truth
.
The
same
father
also
,
from
whom
must
come
the
spirit
of
truth
,
will
as
Dauid
assureth
vs
,
guide
the
humble
in
his
way
,
which
thing
the
same
prophet
often
praieth
for
)
because
of
our selues
,
we
are
not
sufficient
so
much
as
to
thinke
a
good
thought
but
our
sufficiency
is
of
God
.
And
why
doth
Gods
spirit
lighten
our
harts
,
and
instruct
our
consciences
,
if
not
to
the
end
that
we
should
be
fruitful
in
holines
and
righteousnes
.
Yea
the
holy
ghost
doth
not
worke
in
vs
any
knowledge
,
according
to
that
promise
the
church
of
Rome
so
much
claimeth
,
but
that
therewith
also
it
reformeth
vs
,
it
doth
not
giue
faith
,
but
that
withall
it
doth
purifie
vs
.
Yea
it
frameth
vnto
obedience
all
such
,
as
it
traineth
to
vnderstanding
.
And
therefore
it
is
said
that
faith
doth
purifie
our
harts
.
By
this
knowledge
,
Wee
all
beh●lde
as
in
a
mirrour
the
glory
of
the
Lord
,
with
open
face
,
and
are
changed
into
the
same
image
,
from
glory
to
glory
,
as
it
were
by
the
spirite
of
the
Lord
.
And
so
new
mindes
make
new
men
,
and
lightened
hearts
,
will
bring
foorth
godly
life
.
For
it
is
a
hard
matter
that
he
that
beleeueth
well
,
〈…〉
(
euill
as
Saint
Augustine
)
doth
testifie
.
Such
as
are
not
lead
by
Gods
spirite
to
liue
godly
are
not
taught
by
the
same
:
but
many
of
the
Bishops
of
Rome
are
not
lead
by
Gods
spirite
to
liue
godly
,
therefore
many
of
them
are
not
taught
by
the
same
,
and
by
consequent
they
may
erre
.
For
they
haue
no
colour
of
not
erring
,
but
that
only
that
they
claime
,
the
direction
of
that
spirite
,
that
was
neuer
promised
to
such
prophane
prelates
,
nor
cannot
lodge
in
such
sinkes
of
sinne
.
My
second
argument
is
this
.
Pope
Adrian
the
sixt
did
teach
,
The
thirde
argument
shall
bee
of
the
examples
of
such
as
did
erre
:
Marcellinus
,
who
sacrificed
to
Idols
,
as
also
stories
doe
testifie
,
bicause
it
is
said
that
he
repented
him
therof
.
But
yet
we
may
learne
out
of
him
,
that
if
a
pope
may
fall
to
such
frailety
as
to
commit
so
grosse
Idolatry
,
which
is
a
greater
sinne
then
to
fall
into
many
of
the
heresies
,
that
are
condemned
(
by
that
name
)
of
the
fathers
,
he
may
also
erre
in
iudgement
.
Liberius
a
pope
,
Athanasius
,
that
great
learned
and
catholike
father
,
as
many
ancient
histories
doe
report
,
and
our
aduersaries
deny
not
,
but
also
did
communicate
with
two
notable
Atrian
heretikes
,
which
was
a
great
offence
to
the
godly
,
and
an
incouraging
of
those
heretikes
.
But
maister
Bellarmine
answereth
that
neither
he
taught
any
heresy
,
Athanasius
,
Arrians
Valence
Visacius
,
and
by
help
of
Arrians
get
again
to
be
bishop
of
Rome
,
deposing
Felix
.
For
to
er
is
to
wander
or
go
out
of
the
right
way
,
whether
it
be
for
ignorance
or
feare
,
or
through
any
other
affection
,
he
that
steppeth
aside
doth
erre
.
And
because
this
giueth
great
light
,
to
al
that
is
to
be
said
of
this
question
:
it
shal
not
be
amisse
somewhat
more
throughly
to
consider
of
the
same
.
First
you
see
that
whereas
their
doctrine
is
briefly
deliuered
that
the
pope
cannot
erre
:
they
wil
haue
it
thus
to
be
vnderstooed
,
the
pope
cannot
be
an
heretike
,
that
is
,
he
cannot
continue
obstinatly
in
heresie
,
nor
he
cannot
teach
heresie
,
when
he
giueth
generall
precepts
that
should
belong
to
the
whole
church
.
For
that
is
the
meaning
both
of
Melchior
Canus
,
in
his
Theological
places
,
Nowe
therefore
let
vs
see
how
well
their
doctrine
,
and
their
meaning
agree
together
.
For
the
head
of
the
church
should
be
such
,
as
should
in
nothing
,
no
not
for
a
time
leade
the
body
of
the
church
awry
.
But
the
church
may
be
led
into
many
foolish
opinions
,
strange
conceites
,
Now
who
seeth
not
,
that
a
man
in
place
of
credite
and
authoritie
,
as
the
bishop
of
Rome
hath
beene
(
by
such
bad
means
as
he
hath
vsed
these
many
yeares
,
may
wonderfully
indamage
and
indanger
the
church
of
God
,
before
any
body
wil
or
dare
reprooue
him
,
for
any
opinions
that
he
will
holde
?
And
when
he
is
found
fault
withall
(
as
he
must
be
before
they
can
count
him
an
heretike
)
how
many
subtile
shifts
can
euil
men
haue
,
to
continue
a
long
time
in
their
wicked
opinions
,
without
reuoking
the
same
,
or
reforming
themselues
,
and
yet
to
auoide
the
danger
of
being
accounted
stubborne
or
obstinate
.
The
Pelagians
against
whom
saint
Augustine
writeth
many
bookes
did
turne
many
waies
their
lewd
opinions
,
Augustine
,
who
confesseth
plainly
,
that
if
their
meaning
were
not
knowen
to
be
euill
,
their
wordes
could
well
enough
haue
beene
borne
withall
.
Admit
then
that
a
bishop
of
Rome
,
being
of
such
absolute
authority
as
now
they
are
,
could
as
cunningly
as
did
the
Pelagians
,
couer
and
cloake
an
heresie
.
Might
not
he
be
an
heretike
many
yeares
,
before
he
would
be
driuen
to
recant
?
And
might
not
he
then
by
such
meanes
,
bring
irreparable
hurt
to
the
church
of
God
?
Thus
we
see
,
that
as
by
this
doctrine
that
the
pope
cannot
erre
,
they
goe
about
to
assure
vs
,
that
the
head
which
they
haue
set
ouer
the
church
,
cannot
deceiue
vs
,
if
we
wil
be
lead
by
him
:
so
their
interpretation
of
that
their
position
,
argueth
in
them
great
doubtfulnes
,
&
that
they
dare
not
defend
their
own
fayings
,
vnlesse
they
may
expound
their
words
after
this
manner
,
that
the
pope
cannot
erre
,
that
is
he
cannot
obstinately
or
stubbornly
teach
(
as
a
doctrine
to
be
receiued
of
the
whole
church
)
any
heresie
.
And
I
pray
you
what
safety
can
the
godly
finde
in
following
such
a
head
,
But
what
helpeth
this
his
late
repentance
,
the
distressed
souldiers
?
nothing
at
all
.
Euen
so
that
the
bishop
of
Rome
cannot
continue
in
his
errour
(
if
it
were
true
that
he
had
some
such
priuiledge
)
it
might
be
good
for
himselfe
:
But
such
a
head
is
for
others
very
dangerous
,
because
that
not
all
they
who
are
seduced
by
such
mens
instruction
or
example
,
are
also
reduced
by
their
recantation
or
amendment
,
as
appeareth
by
multitudes
of
examples
.
And
so
we
see
that
this
their
interpretation
standeth
not
with
either
their
common
receiued
doctrine
,
or
with
their
intent
and
meaning
which
is
to
promise
safety
from
errour
,
vnto
them
that
receiue
that
head
.
Whereas
in
truth
their
meaning
is
to
tell
vs
that
the
pope
may
be
of
a
wrong
iudgement
,
but
if
he
be
much
vrged
he
cannot
be
obstinate
,
he
wil
not
stand
to
it
.
And
whereas
they
defend
,
Lastly
let
vs
consider
the
foundation
whereupon
they
raise
this
building
.
Peter
,
Simon
Simon
.
behold
Sathan
hath
desired
to
sift
you
as
wheat
.
But
I
haue
praied
for
thee
that
thy
faith
should
not
faile
.
To
whom
was
this
said
?
To
Peter
,
although
not
to
him
alone
,
as
before
out
of
Theophilact
I
haue
shewed
.
But
Peter
immediatly
after
erred
,
Bellarmine
,
that
he
cannot
see
that
Peters
faith
at
this
time
failed
.
Peters
,
we
know
not
saith
he
,
that
Peters
faith
euer
failed
.
He
feared
at
the
question
which
the
damosell
asked
of
him
,
And
further
I
must
put
the
godly
reader
in
remembrance
,
that
if
this
were
granted
to
Peter
,
that
the
pope
doth
claime
,
that
he
could
not
erre
:
yet
must
he
proue
himselfe
to
be
Peters
successor
,
and
that
the
priuilege
is
also
successiue
,
to
that
seat
,
before
he
can
by
these
wordes
prooue
his
infallible
iudgement
.
And
what
they
can
do
for
these
points
,
I
haue
shewed
before
their
great
weaknes
,
And
to
omitte
all
the
ancient
Records
,
Melchior
Canus
his
confession
in
his
theologicall
places
,
and
one
proofe
vrged
by
him
amongst
many
others
.
For
hee
doth
not
onely
acknowledge
Honorius
to
bee
an
hereticke
,
but
also
telleth
vs
,
how
Adrian
the
second
,
in
the
first
action
of
the
eighth
generall
councill
,
confesseth
that
Honorius
was
by
the
Greeke
church
condemned
as
a
hereticke
,
and
that
Agathe
bishop
of
Rome
,
consented
vnto
the
same
his
condemnation
.
In
which
argument
although
master
Bellarmine
Melchior
Canus
,
yet
hee
is
not
any
thing
able
to
take
away
the
waight
of
that
reason
,
but
that
Honorius
although
a
pope
,
must
be
pronounced
,
and
holden
for
an
hereticke
,
euen
by
the
detree
of
a
generall
councill
.
What
should
I
speake
of
the
errour
that
was
most
apparent
in
those
seditious
popes
Steuen
the
sixth
,
Theodore
,
and
Iohn
the
tenth
.
Steuen
reuoked
whatsoeuer
Formosus
had
done
vp
a
councill
called
belike
for
that
purpose
,
Iohn
the
tenth
afterwards
maketh
good
the
dooings
of
Formosus
,
disamulling
that
that
Steuen
did
,
yea
,
their
●●ntention
was
so
great
,
that
they
commaunded
such
as
had
taken
orders
of
one
,
that
they
should
(
as
if
these
first
orders
were
nothing
worth
)
take
orders
of
another
.
These
thinges
are
reported
by
all
histories
,
and
therefore
are
also
confessed
of
themselues
,
that
are
our
aduersaries
.
If
pope
Formosus
did
not
erre
,
then
Steuen
that
d●●lt
so
hardly
with
him
,
and
so
disannulled
his
dooings
and
decrees
,
did
erre
.
If
Steuen
did
right
,
then
Iohn
who
afterwardes
vndid
all
that
he
had
done
,
did
wrong
.
Yea
they
disannulled
the
very
orders
that
the
popes
that
were
their
aduersaries
had
giuen
.
Which
thing
maister
Bellarmine
in
his
fourth
Booke
and
twelfth
chapter
confesseth
to
be
a
matter
of
faith
.
Therefore
heere
the
pope
erred
in
faith
.
No
(
saith
he
)
this
is
onely
a
matter
of
fact
,
it
is
not
decreed
by
any
of
them
.
Let
vs
marke
out
question
,
that
is
,
whether
the
Pope
may
erre
or
not
.
Maister
Bellarmine
saieth
,
these
Popes
did
wrong
,
but
they
decreed
nothing
of
disanulling
those
orders
,
which
men
booke
of
their
predecessours
,
and
therefore
erred
not
in
iudgement
.
Sigebert
saieth
,
that
Steuen
decreed
,
Formosus
.
So
Iacob
Bergomensis
and
Stella
,
agree
with
Platina
.
These
therefore
condemne
Steuen
the
sixt
to
erre
〈◊〉
iudgement
,
and
so
doe
manifestly
〈◊〉
▪
that
the
pope
did
erre
,
and
confute
maister
Bellarmine
his
answere
to
this
obiection
.
Iohn
the
two
and
〈◊〉
pope
of
that
name
did
not
beleeue
onely
,
but
euen
teach
,
that
the
soules
should
not
see
God
before
the
latter
day
,
as
master
Bellarmine
himself
confesseth
.
But
it
was
(
saith
he
)
no
heresie
in
him
so
to
teach
,
The
lessons
(
I
perceiue
)
that
God
teacheth
vs
,
must
not
bee
counted
the
doctrines
of
the
church
,
vntill
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
or
some
councill
haue
set
downe
some
order
therein
.
Well
howsoeuer
the
wise
maisters
of
Rome
will
define
what
shall
be
heresie
,
yet
I
trust
they
will
graunt
that
hee
erred
in
iudgement
,
because
he
taught
then
,
that
which
not
only
the
scriptures
gainesay
,
but
euen
the
papistes
themselues
will
confesse
to
be
erronious
.
But
what
should
I
stand
in
particular
examples
?
Melchior
Canus
and
Bellarmine
confesse
,
especially
Canus
,
that
both
the
seuenth
and
the
eight
sinodes
did
condemne
as
an
hereticke
Honorius
the
pope
,
doth
it
not
appeare
manifestly
thereby
,
that
they
made
no
doubt
,
whether
a
pope
might
erre
or
not
?
It
is
not
a
question
amongst
them
,
they
heare
of
his
doctrine
,
they
condemne
it
as
erronious
.
Neither
did
Formosus
his
friends
vse
any
such
argument
,
to
hinder
Steuen
his
cruell
dealings
against
Formosus
,
or
Steuens
friends
to
mitigate
the
rage
of
Iohn
the
tenth
against
Steuen
,
they
saide
not
thus
,
Formosus
was
a
pope
,
and
Steuen
was
a
pope
,
they
cannot
erre
.
No
it
is
a
doctrine
of
later
growth
,
and
of
a
newer
stamp
.
Maister
Bellarmine
answereth
that
those
two
councels
that
are
before
mentioned
,
Almain
Alphonsus
all
of
them
papistes
,
and
pope
Adrian
the
sixt
himselfe
,
are
of
one
mind
,
Albert
Pighius
an
other
papist
of
an
other
.
Bellarmine
and
his
maisters
make
a
third
sect
.
And
yet
these
men
reproue
vs
for
difference
in
opinion
,
bragge
of
their
owne
vnity
,
and
must
needs
be
thought
to
haue
a
catholike
faith
.
But
to
conclude
seeing
the
giftes
of
the
spirite
whether
of
sanctification
or
of
truth
,
are
giuen
vnto
men
according
to
measure
,
Constantinople
,
Alexandria
and
Antioch
as
Alipius
had
inoued
them
to
get
the
true
copies
.
Boniface
.
When
the
copies
came
,
they
could
finde
no
such
thing
.
Is
it
not
then
very
plaine
that
the
Bishop
of
Rome
his
legate
vsed
false
writings
,
for
proofe
of
a
bad
cause
?
But
maister
Bellarmine
telleth
vs
that
Saint
Augustine
and
all
they
of
they
council
mistooke
the
matter
,
Peter
Crab
a
frier
and
a
papist
,
was
at
the
least
fortie
yeares
after
the
councill
of
Nice
)
it
maketh
nothing
to
iustifie
them
,
And
of
that
council
of
Sardis
,
it
may
truly
be
said
,
as
in
the
Lateran
council
,
or
at
the
least
in
the
Tripartit
worke
added
vnto
it
,
Augustine
writeth
of
that
council
of
Sardis
that
is
was
an
Arrian
council
,
Athanasius
.
The
time
also
when
it
was
kept
is
very
vncertaine
.
Yea
almost
al
the
circumstances
argue
great
doubtfulnes
of
that
council
.
They
that
write
the
story
of
that
council
,
doe
write
thereof
so
diuersly
,
both
for
the
number
of
bishops
assembled
there
,
and
also
concerning
the
Arrians
being
there
,
which
some
affirme
,
some
deny
,
that
therby
we
may
learn
how
little
credit
is
to
be
giuen
to
it
,
for
to
ground
any
vncertain
or
doubtful
doctrine
vpon
,
that
it
might
haue
credit
.
But
that
which
maister
Bel.
doth
afterwards
say
,
is
yet
more
absurd
.
For
hauing
affirmed
that
he
is
indeed
perswaded
,
that
these
canons
(
which
the
church
of
Rome
alleadgeth
for
her
supremacy
.
)
are
not
in
the
Nicen
couecil
,
but
onely
in
that
of
Sardis
,
yet
he
thinketh
that
Zozimus
and
Boniface
two
bishops
of
Rome
,
did
therefore
name
them
the
decrees
of
the
Nicen
council
,
because
they
were
both
written
together
in
a
booke
at
Rome
,
Peter
Crab
,
or
spoken
of
by
Ruff●nus
.
To
what
end
is
all
this
?
Forsooth
to
excuse
his
holy
fathers
,
that
they
should
not
be
thought
to
giue
counters
for
gold
,
or
lead
for
siluer
.
But
how
can
hee
excuse
them
,
Chalcedon
?
For
it
is
not
the
translation
out
of
Greeke
of
Dionyse
an
Abbat
,
almost
three
hundred
yeares
after
that
council
was
kept
,
that
Alan
Cope
speaketh
of
,
and
master
Bellarmine
before
hath
aleaged
for
his
defence
,
The
Epistle
of
the
Affrican
Council
to
pope
Celestine
bishop
of
the
citie
of
Rome
.
à
latere
that
should
come
from
the
popes
side
,
for
examination
of
such
matters
,
they
vtterly
mislike
,
as
a
thing
not
to
be
found
in
any
of
the
synods
of
the
fathers
.
Thus
we
see
,
that
in
as
plaine
termes
as
they
can
deuise
,
this
Councill
doeth
oppose
themselues
to
that
which
the
Bishop
of
Rome
did
seeke
to
obtaine
.
And
thus
it
appeareth
,
how
vntruely
the
church
of
Rome
hath
delt
very
long
since
,
to
exalt
her selfe
aboue
others
,
and
to
maintaine
her
owne
pride
.
And
how
shee
hath
in
the
times
of
those
learned
fathers
,
beene
bridled
in
their
councils
.
Wherein
they
haue
set
downe
lawes
,
to
mitigate
and
keepe
vnder
their
immoderate
affections
,
how
soeuer
they
would
sometimes
write
or
speake
of
them
,
or
to
them
that
were
bishops
of
Rome
for
the
peace
of
the
church
,
and
the
reuerence
of
the
persons
being
men
often
times
indued
with
very
good
gifts
,
and
such
as
by
their
acquaintance
and
credit
,
being
in
the
imperiall
citie
,
did
helpe
many
that
were
distressed
.
Now
therefore
let
vs
yeld
that
honour
to
him
onely
whome
God
hath
sealed
,
Corah
,
Dathan
and
Abiram
,
The
second
part
of
the
Suruey
of
the
Popes
Supremacie
,
which
is
,
a
proofe
of
his
Practises
.
NOw
that
it
plainly
appeareth
in
the
first
part
of
this
Treatise
,
to
them
that
doe
not
wincke
with
their
eyes
against
the
trueth
,
that
this
Supremacie
that
the
Bishop
of
Rome
most
prowdely
abuseth
,
hath
not
any
ground
in
the
worde
of
God
,
as
is
seene
,
partely
by
the
weakenesse
of
their
owne
arguments
,
and
partly
because
the
fathers
being
assembled
together
in
their
generall
councils
,
some
of
them
more
then
foure
hundred
and
fiftie
yeares
after
Christ
haue
taught
vs
the
contrarie
:
it
is
necessary
for
the
better
vnderstanding
of
this
matter
,
yea
for
the
more
detestation
of
their
vniust
authoritie
,
that
something
bee
said
of
the
second
part
of
this
Treatise
,
which
is
a
proofe
or
examination
of
the
popes
practises
.
But
herein
I
must
consider
of
two
pointes
.
First
,
how
,
and
by
what
meanes
,
they
got
vnto
that
high
estate
wherein
nowe
they
are
.
Secondly
,
after
what
manner
they
haue
vsed
themselues
in
the
same
.
In
fewe
wordes
how
they
haue
ruled
.
And
because
the
church
of
Rome
was
not
sodainely
,
or
in
one
instant
aduanced
to
this
place
of
excessiue
pride
and
insatiable
ambition
,
wherein
she
now
challengeth
rule
and
dominion
,
ouer
al
that
professe
christianitie
:
it
wil
not
be
amisse
,
but
a
thing
very
pertinent
to
this
my
purpose
,
to
see
by
what
steps
the
pope
hath
come
to
such
height
,
&
by
what
practises
,
he
hath
attained
to
such
honour
.
Whereas
therefore
the
godly
fathers
of
the
primitiue
church
,
did
many
times
stand
in
neede
of
the
help
or
counsel
,
Cypr.
Atha
.
Chrys.
Aug.
Basil
,
Ierom
,
Miletius
&
Theod.
to
men
worse
than
themselues
as
Iacob
to
Laban
,
from
the
wrath
of
Esau
,
and
Dauid
to
the
Philistins
,
to
auoide
Sa●●s
rage
,
and
Ioseph
with
Christ
,
to
escape
the
bloudy
hands
of
Herod
,
went
into
Egypt
.
Innocentius
,
and
partly
also
in
others
,
it
will
be
more
plaine
.
Leo
,
so
did
pope
a
afterward
.
What
should
I
seeke
to
speak
of
euery
one
,
their
own
decrees
and
decrxtals
,
do
sufficently
beare
witnes
that
within
a
short
time
they
were
become
so
imperious
ouer
others
,
that
they
would
not
leaue
men
(
farre
better
and
more
holy
then
themselues
,
and
better
able
to
direct
those
bishops
of
Rome
,
then
the
B.
were
to
aduise
them
)
such
I
say
they
would
not
leaue
to
their
own
liberty
in
any
thing
,
but
for
euery
thing
,
euen
the
least
matters
that
were
,
they
must
follow
the
direction
of
that
church
of
Rome
,
&
must
haue
a
decree
for
it
.
Which
bondage
greater
then
that
of
Egypt
,
And
thus
we
see
two
steppes
laide
,
to
help
them
vp
to
this
their
desired
honour
.
The
one
is
a
voluntary
submitting
to
them
for
aide
,
But
contrary
wise
not
onely
some
councils
as
that
which
is
called
Mileuitanum
and
that
sixt
of
Carthage
,
Chalcedon
,
did
stiffely
withstand
him
therein
,
but
also
the
bishop
or
patriarch
of
Constantinople
,
who
in
the
council
of
Chalcedon
,
was
made
of
equal
authority
with
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
did
earnestly
striue
to
get
the
supremacy
,
Constantinople
.
So
that
in
good
time
did
the
popes
thinke
,
that
that
vnnaturall
and
sauage
bloudesheader
Phocas
,
did
cut
his
maisters
throate
:
seeing
that
by
Phocas
his
meanes
,
Therefore
whereas
Constantine
the
fourth
Emperour
of
that
name
,
being
moued
(
as
the
stories
report
)
by
the
godlinesse
of
Benedict
the
second
,
bishop
of
Rome
so
called
,
did
ordaine
that
he
that
was
chosen
pope
,
by
the
cleargy
,
people
and
army
of
Romans
,
without
any
confirmation
of
the
emperour
or
his
lieutenant
,
should
be
accompted
pope
:
whereas
before
it
might
not
be
without
the
emperours
leaue
,
who
had
,
as
also
the
kings
of
France
especially
,
a
chusing
voice
in
the
electing
of
the
pope
,
if
we
wil
beleeue
a
story
written
by
a
Frier
,
But
to
make
sure
that
they
had
done
,
Chalcedon
,
doe
so
earnestly
vrge
the
decrees
of
the
Nicen
councill
,
if
that
which
now
they
bring
out
of
Gods
booke
,
had
beene
knowen
to
be
sufficient
proofe
of
the
supremacy
?
What
needed
they
so
notoriously
to
falsifie
the
council
?
What
needed
the
fathers
to
take
such
paines
,
and
to
be
at
such
cost
,
as
to
send
for
true
copies
of
that
council
,
to
Constantinople
,
Alexandria
,
and
Antioche
,
to
trie
whether
the
fathers
in
that
council
of
Nice
,
had
giuen
such
power
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
if
in
these
words
,
To
thee
will
I
giue
the
keies
of
the
kingdome
of
heauen
,
Christ
had
promised
,
or
in
these
,
feed
my
sheepe
.
Christ
had
giuen
,
such
fulnes
of
power
ouer
all
others
,
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
?
Seeing
therefore
that
proofe
seemed
not
strong
enough
in
those
times
,
the
graunt
which
they
had
from
Phocas
,
did
them
no
great
good
,
to
shewe
what
right
they
had
to
that
supremacy
,
(
although
thereby
they
got
possession
thereof
:
)
For
if
by
his
gift
they
claimed
,
then
they
confessed
this
their
authority
to
be
from
man
,
They
fained
this
gift
to
be
from
Constantine
,
Lateran
,
and
many
other
temporallties
,
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
as
master
Bellarmine
would
haue
it
thought
,
but
they
bring
him
in
speaking
these
words
,
We
decreeing
doe
ordaine
that
he
(
the
bishop
of
Rome
)
shall
haue
the
supremacie
as
well
ouer
the
foure
principall
seates
of
Antioch
,
Alexandria
,
Constantinople
,
and
Ierusalem
,
as
also
ouer
,
all
churches
in
the
whole
earth
.
And
that
the
pope
for
the
time
being
,
of
that
holy
church
of
Rome
,
shall
be
hier
,
and
Prince
of
all
princes
in
the
world
.
Is
this
onely
to
giue
temporalties
?
But
the
falshood
of
the
donation
of
Constantine
,
doth
shine
more
bright
then
the
noone
day
,
although
the
papists
make
great
account
of
the
same
.
Yea
Melchior
Canus
altogether
a
papist
,
yet
he
did
either
see
more
,
or
dealt
plaiulier
,
in
this
matter
then
did
master
Bellarmine
.
For
although
he
be
loth
to
denie
it
,
or
to
diminish
the
credit
of
it
,
yet
he
bringeth
moe
reasons
against
it
,
then
hee
with
all
his
felowes
can
be
able
to
answere
.
So
that
we
neede
not
seeke
for
arguments
out
of
Laurentius
Valla
,
or
others
to
confute
it
.
For
euen
hee
hath
giuen
it
a
more
deadly
wound
,
then
can
be
healed
againe
.
He
confesseth
that
the
lawyers
take
it
to
be
but
a
fained
matter
,
and
therfore
cal
it
chaffe
,
for
it
is
indeed
so
called
in
their
owne
distinctions
.
He
acknowledgeth
that
Eusebius
,
Ruffinus
,
Theodoret
,
Socrates
,
Sozomenus
,
Eutropius
,
Victor
,
and
other
authors
of
credit
,
who
most
diligently
wrote
all
that
Constantine
did
,
haue
not
onely
made
no
mention
of
that
donation
,
but
also
doe
affirme
that
he
so
deuided
his
empire
among
his
three
sonnes
,
as
that
the
one
of
them
had
Italie
.
And
that
Ammianus
Marcellinus
in
his
fifteenth
booke
writeth
,
that
Constantius
(
Constantines
sonne
)
had
the
rule
of
the
citie
(
of
Rome
)
and
made
Leontius
his
liuetenant
there
.
And
lastly
,
that
all
Histories
record
,
that
many
Emperours
after
that
time
ruled
in
Italie
,
yea
and
in
Rome
.
What
can
be
more
plaine
?
Their
owne
Lawyeares
confesse
it
to
be
fained
,
no
good
story
recordeth
it
but
the
contrary
.
Rome
after
this
gift
,
was
the
imperial
citty
and
seat
.
Therefore
either
Constantine
gaue
no
such
thing
from
him
and
his
heires
,
or
his
gift
was
nothing
worth
.
Melch●
or
Canus
also
doubteth
of
the
very
foundation
of
this
fable
,
Constantine
,
&
by
the
cardinal
Nicolas
Cusam
a
fast
friend
and
faithful
to
that
Romish
church
,
that
this
donation
was
not
in
the
old
coppies
of
Grecians
decrees
.
And
therfore
when
it
was
added
,
themselues
accompted
it
but
chaffe
and
no
good
corne
.
And
these
and
such
reasons
made
Pius
the
second
pope
of
that
name
,
to
maruell
in
a
certaine
dialogue
,
written
by
him
being
a
Cardinall
,
that
the
Lawyers
were
so
mad
,
as
to
make
any
question
of
that
matter
,
which
neuer
was
.
And
that
wee
may
see
,
Melchiades
,
that
was
bishop
before
Siluester
.
And
he
is
made
to
speake
,
as
though
it
had
beene
done
before
his
time
also
.
And
yet
this
Melchiades
was
pope
,
about
two
or
three
yeares
,
before
Constantine
was
Emperour
,
Eusebius
,
who
lined
in
those
daies
,
it
may
appeare
.
What
needeth
this
point
of
their
doctrine
any
aduersary
.
Themselues
doe
fully
confute
one
another
,
And
the
prouerb
is
in
this
found
true
,
when
theeues
fal
out
,
true
men
come
by
their
goods
.
For
these
decrees
if
they
be
well
considered
,
it
is
not
hard
to
spie
falshood
in
them
both
.
And
therefore
we
may
take
heede
how
we
trust
them
,
seeing
that
in
these
two
we
see
plainly
,
how
the
one
is
contrarie
to
the
other
,
and
both
contrary
to
the
truth
.
There
are
also
some
impossibilities
in
the
said
donation
,
which
doe
sufficiently
prooue
it
,
to
be
but
a
fraudulent
deede
.
Siluester
,
of
whome
he
was
baptised
.
And
yet
besids
many
other
ancient
histories
of
good
credit
,
Saint
Hierom
doth
plainly
write
,
that
he
was
baptised
at
the
latter
end
of
his
life
,
and
that
not
of
Siluester
bishop
of
Rome
,
for
hee
was
dead
and
also
Marke
that
succeded
him
,
but
of
Eusebius
bishop
of
Nicomedia
,
some
six
or
seauen
yeares
after
Siluester
was
dead
.
How
then
could
these
things
be
giuen
to
Siluester
at
the
baptisme
of
Constantine
,
Siluester
being
dead
so
long
before
?
Or
howe
at
his
baptisme
in
Rome
,
when
he
was
baptised
in
Nicomedia
,
the
chiefe
citie
of
Bithinia
,
many
hundred
miles
distant
from
Rome
?
But
it
is
strange
that
they
are
so
impudent
,
as
to
name
Constantinople
at
this
time
for
one
of
the
principall
seats
of
bishops
,
as
in
this
donation
they
do
,
which
was
called
not
by
that
name
before
Constantine
in
the
tenth
yeare
of
his
raigne
did
build
it
,
but
while
Siluester
and
Marke
his
successor
liued
it
was
called
Bizance
.
And
about
twentie
or
thirty
yeares
after
the
death
of
Constantine
,
was
there
a
councill
at
Constantinople
,
Constantinople
,
ther
was
either
no
church
at
all
,
or
else
very
secret
,
vntill
about
the
latter
end
of
Constantines
time
.
For
that
very
yeare
that
he
was
baptised
many
of
Constantinople
were
baptised
in
somuch
as
Nicephorus
maketh
mention
of
aboue
twelue
thousand
men
besides
women
and
children
,
Eusebius
,
that
in
that
citie
which
himselfe
did
build
,
and
did
beare
his
name
,
a
very
great
mumber
were
become
christians
,
and
for
that
cause
hee
taketh
care
,
that
they
might
haue
churches
built
for
them
.
So
that
as
yet
wee
see
they
had
not
their
churches
much
lesse
can
wee
imagine
,
that
then
they
had
any
Bishops
,
that
would
looke
for
so
high
a
place
among
others
.
And
therefore
euen
hereby
appeareth
the
falshood
and
folly
of
this
forged
donation
.
There
are
also
in
the
same
donation
some
things
that
sauor
of
the
pride
that
afterwardes
appeareth
in
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
but
was
not
then
in
them
.
For
that
donation
falsely
attributed
to
Constantine
,
doth
giue
vnto
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
greater
principality
of
power
,
then
this
kingly
or
roial
maiesty
had
,
and
an
Imperiall
authority
.
Nowe
howe
manifestly
false
this
is
,
wee
may
very
easily
marke
,
if
we
doe
consider
either
the
stile
,
that
the
Bishoppes
of
Rome
that
then
were
,
did
vse
,
when
they
wrote
vnto
their
bretheren
,
or
their
maner
of
behauionr
,
when
they
came
amongst
them
,
or
the
authoritie
which
the
Nicen
council
,
that
was
in
the
time
of
Constantine
gaue
vnto
them
,
but
equall
with
the
patriarches
of
Alexandria
and
Antioch
,
and
euery
one
of
them
to
looke
to
their
owne
charge
(
among
whome
if
there
were
any
inequalitie
,
the
priuiledges
of
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
had
not
so
large
a
compasse
by
far
,
as
the
other
patriarches
)
or
the
soueraignty
which
Constantine
the
emperour
did
still
keepe
and
exerccise
,
in
,
and
ouer
,
not
Rome
onely
,
but
the
whole
church
,
not
in
ciuil
matters
onely
,
but
in
calling
of
councils
,
commanding
the
bishops
,
comforting
the
godly
,
reprouing
the
hereticks
,
and
in
directing
how
and
after
what
maner
,
they
would
debate
and
determine
matters
in
the
council
.
To
be
short
,
if
we
remember
how
some
of
the
councils
,
of
which
I
haue
often
spoken
alreadie
,
did
stifly
denie
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
for
lesse
superioritie
then
by
this
graunt
they
might
challenge
,
it
will
easily
appeare
,
that
they
knewe
not
then
of
any
such
priuiledges
,
that
Constantine
had
graunted
vnto
that
seat
.
For
if
then
any
such
superioritie
or
supremacie
had
beene
due
vnto
them
,
the
fatheres
of
those
times
,
who
often
stoode
in
neede
of
their
helpe
,
would
neuer
so
flatly
haue
withstoode
their
indeuours
.
And
themselues
also
would
haue
beene
as
readie
by
themselues
or
their
legats
,
to
haue
pleaded
the
donation
of
Constantine
,
if
then
it
had
beene
thought
vpon
,
as
they
were
to
coine
new
canons
of
the
Nicen
council
.
They
pride
therefore
that
in
this
grant
appeareth
,
doth
proclaime
to
the
world
,
that
it
sauoureth
not
of
that
christian
modestie
,
that
was
for
the
most
part
in
the
bishops
of
those
times
,
but
it
is
some
bastard
of
a
later
breede
.
And
of
that
spirit
of
ambition
,
doth
that
also
sauour
,
that
is
said
that
the
pope
should
be
prince
of
al
priests
,
and
aboue
al
churches
in
the
world
.
But
this
is
confuted
in
that
which
before
hath
vin
spoken
.
For
long
after
this
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
yea
and
that
by
vnlawful
meanes
sometime
,
did
seeke
for
that
preheminence
,
but
it
would
not
be
graunted
vnto
them
:
how beit
one
thing
in
this
donation
I
cannot
but
remember
you
of
,
because
it
sheweth
in
my
iudgement
,
that
this
forgery
was
committed
but
of
late
yeares
in
comparison
,
euen
after
that
they
had
brought
the
emperours
vnder
their
subiection
,
and
did
beare
all
the
sway
in
the
citie
of
Rome
.
And
that
is
this
,
that
they
bring
in
the
emperour
yelding
the
imperiall
citie
into
the
popes
hands
,
and
that
as
though
it
were
not
fitt
or
seemely
,
that
the
earthly
emperour
should
dwell
there
,
where
the
heauenly
emperour
(
saith
he
)
hath
placed
the
head
of
christian
religion
.
Can
there
be
any
greater
disgrace
to
worldly
princes
,
then
to
make
them
vnworthie
to
be
neighbours
to
that
proud
priest
of
Rome
?
Can
they
lift
vp
themselues
by
any
meanes
hier
in
pride
against
man
,
then
so
to
aduaunce
and
esteeme
of
themselues
,
aboue
the
greatest
monarches
in
the
world
?
Did
Constantine
vse
to
speake
or
write
so
?
Did
he
thinke
himselfe
vnworthie
to
be
neere
them
?
They
that
are
but
indifferently
acquainted
with
the
stories
of
Constantine
,
doe
know
that
he
loued
ful
wel
,
to
be
not
only
neere
to
bishops
,
but
euen
among
them
also
.
But
they
that
forged
this
fable
,
would
haue
the
world
to
thinke
,
that
either
they
are
more
holy
,
then
euer
were
the
leuiticall
priests
:
or
else
that
that
good
emperour
his
scepter
,
sworde
,
and
crowne
,
were
more
vnholy
and
prophane
,
then
those
ensignes
of
gouernment
that
belonged
to
the
kings
ouer
the
Iewes
.
And
what
else
doe
all
those
imperiall
ornaments
,
crownes
,
scepters
,
miter
,
coller
,
clocke
,
cote
,
banners
,
and
such
like
signifie
,
which
there
they
say
are
giuen
to
them
,
but
that
this
forgerie
was
committed
,
after
that
the
proud
popes
did
so
ouercrow
the
emperours
,
that
they
became
but
as
it
were
their
seruants
?
For
it
was
far
from
Constantines
minde
to
make
him selfe
their
seruant
as
afterwards
the
emperours
were
.
And
the
popes
that
then
were
had
other
matters
to
doe
,
and
other
thoughts
possessed
their
hearts
,
then
that
they
could
be
caried
away
,
to
such
vaine
deuises
.
They
were
scarsly
out
of
one
persecution
,
being
freed
from
it
by
Constantine
but
that
they
fell
into
another
that
troubled
the
church
maruelously
,
namely
the
Arrian
heresie
,
against
which
the
good
bishops
,
did
then
oppose
themselues
with
might
and
maine
.
And
as
these
things
doe
sauour
of
the
pride
of
latter
times
,
so
some
things
also
sauour
of
superstition
,
more
then
as
yet
was
crept
into
the
church
.
For
Constantine
,
in
this
his
donation
which
they
impudently
ascribe
vnto
him
,
doth
giue
for
the
maintenance
of
lights
in
the
church
of
saint
Peter
and
Paul
,
his
possessions
in
the
east
,
west
,
north
and
south
,
and
by
name
he
reckoneth
vp
many
countries
,
where
he
had
giuen
his
possessions
,
for
the
maintenaunce
of
those
lights
.
But
in
deed
it
appeareth
that
he
did
bestow
his
reuenues
vpon
more
necessary
things
as
in
the
building
of
churches
,
whereunto
christians
might
resorte
to
serue
God
,
and
in
calling
the
Nicen
council
,
for
the
determining
of
some
questions
in
religion
.
As
for
lights
if
then
they
vsed
any
yet
such
large
deuotion
in
such
toies
and
trifles
is
a
plaine
fruit
of
latter
daies
of
ignorance
.
Thus
there
is
almost
no
kinde
of
thing
granted
vnto
them
Many
other
exceptions
might
be
made
to
that
pretended
donation
,
and
many
moe
reasons
might
haue
beene
brought
against
it
,
but
this
that
is
said
,
had
beene
more
then
enough
,
in
so
plaine
a
matter
,
had
it
not
beene
that
many
of
the
popish
writers
,
haue
pleased
themselues
so
well
in
their
forged
follie
.
Hetherto
we
haue
seene
howe
the
popes
haue
made
of
the
voluntarie
suites
that
the
godly
made
to
the
bishops
of
Rome
,
beeing
forced
thereto
by
some
extremities
,
necessarie
subiection
,
and
out
of
their
requests
,
they
gather
a
profession
of
obedience
.
Then
also
how
they
gote
the
decree
of
Phocas
one
their
side
.
And
lastly
,
howe
they
got
the
right
of
confirming
the
bishops
of
Rome
,
out
of
the
emperours
hands
,
pretending
for
these
and
all
other
their
fulnesse
of
power
,
sometimes
the
words
of
our
Sauiour
Christ
.
But
to
supply
the
want
of
helpe
which
there
they
find
(
for
in
trueth
they
make
not
for
that
excessiue
pride
of
the
Bishop
of
Rome
)
they
pretend
(
although
without
any
colour
of
truth
)
a
gift
of
these
and
other
their
priuiledges
,
from
Constantine
the
great
.
But
nowe
let
vs
looke
further
into
their
practises
.
Did
they
now
content
themselues
,
when
they
had
the
commaunding
of
all
bishops
,
and
had
gotten
this
name
,
that
is
vnfitte
for
any
man
to
be
called
,
Head
of
the
vniuersall
Churches
?
Could
they
content
themselues
with
this
excessiue
honour
?
No.
They
must
yet
goe
one
steppe
higher
.
For
hitherto
the
Bishoppes
of
Rome
were
subiect
to
the
Emperours
,
as
may
very
well
bee
prooued
by
their
owne
epistles
.
Gregory
,
who
did
so
bitterly
inueigh
against
the
proude
name
of
vniuersall
bishop
,
that
Iohn
patriarch
of
Constantinople
tooke
vpon
him
,
him selfe
being
a
bishop
of
Rome
,
giueth
many
euident
testimonies
of
this
subiection
,
which
the
popes
did
acknowledge
to
the
emperors
.
And
out
of
an
infinite
number
of
testimonies
that
hee
doth
afforde
,
I
haue
taken
but
one
,
and
yet
that
such
a
one
as
doeth
sufficiently
prooue
what
reckoning
the
bishops
of
Rome
,
at
that
time
made
of
the
emperours
.
And
yet
now
we
see
some
pride
beganne
to
shew
it selfe
in
the
church
.
For
euen
now
was
that
a
great
strife
for
the
name
of
vniuersall
Bishop
.
And
that
yet
euen
then
did
this
learned
father
and
Bishoppe
of
Rome
acknowledge
himselfe
to
bee
an
vnderling
to
the
Emperours
,
yea
,
and
after
that
Phocas
had
giuen
the
Bishop
of
Rome
that
priuiledge
to
bee
head
of
the
Church
,
almost
a
hundreth
yeeres
,
The
first
that
I
remember
,
that
did
disgrace
in
any
respect
the
Emperour
,
Platina
.
Constantine
first
of
any
bishop
of
Rome
,
durst
withstand
Philippicus
the
greeke
Emperour
to
his
face
openly
.
Perchance
because
Iustinian
that
was
Emperour
next
before
Philippicus
,
had
kissed
his
feete
,
it
made
him
the
bolder
with
his
successour
.
The
pretence
that
Constantine
tooke
holde
vpon
to
withstand
the
emperour
was
this
.
Philippicus
vpon
good
warrant
out
of
Gods
word
,
Constantine
,
tooke
greater
matters
in
hand
against
the
emperour
.
For
he
tooke
from
Leo
whatsoeuer
belonging
to
the
empire
,
the
Longobards
had
left
in
all
Italy
An.
729.
I
report
these
stories
out
of
Onuphrius
,
a
great
friend
to
the
pope
,
and
Romish
church
.
He
also
in
the
same
place
speaking
of
another
pope
Gregory
the
third
who
was
next
after
the
second
telleth
how
he
sought
for
aide
of
the
French
,
against
those
Longobards
.
For
indeede
he
reiecting
his
natural
prince
,
to
whom
in
duty
he
was
bound
,
the
Emperour
,
did
seeke
as
already
he
had
gotten
to
be
aboue
al
bishops
,
so
in
the
end
,
to
be
aboue
al
princes
and
potentates
in
the
earth
.
Whereof
Gregory
the
third
in
this
place
layeth
a
good
foundation
,
in
reiecting
an
old
maister
,
for
a
new
friend
.
Yea
he
doth
excommunicat
Leo
the
Emperour
,
and
depriue
him
to
his
empire
,
as
Platina
reporteth
.
Thus
we
see
how
the
pope
hath
by
little
and
little
,
First
because
none
should
be
so
bold
as
to
speake
any
thing
And
after
commeth
in
to
serue
their
turne
that
fulnesse
of
authority
,
Wherein
they
challenge
so
great
priuiledge
,
that
they
can
worke
thereby
against
the
law
of
God
,
the
lawe
of
nature
,
the
law
of
nations
.
A
perilons
practise
is
this
for
all
princes
estates
,
thus
to
lead
the
people
on
the
blind
side
,
as
to
make
them
beleeue
,
that
to
rebel
is
to
obey
and
to
dishonour
their
superiours
,
is
an
acceptable
sacrifice
to
God
.
By
these
their
powerfull
keies
,
But
of
their
owne
authority
they
may
not
touch
him
,
because
they
are
(
say
they
)
the
Lordes
annointed
.
By
which
meanes
they
grew
to
great
sawcines
,
and
the
state
was
not
a
little
indangered
thereby
in
many
places
.
They
had
also
another
practise
to
maintaine
their
pride
,
And
thus
were
they
euery
way
distressed
,
their
consciences
being
intangled
,
and
their
estates
indangered
.
But
one
of
their
most
subtill
shiftes
was
the
taking
away
of
knowledge
from
the
people
.
Whereby
they
became
as
men
,
that
walked
in
the
darke
,
Now
although
they
heard
much
of
the
church
of
Rome
,
yet
for
the
most
parte
they
were
not
acquainted
with
it
.
So
that
the
church
that
must
be
their
direction
,
The
Scriptures
were
either
quite
taken
from
them
,
Nowe
they
not
knowing
their
duty
,
which
God
had
commaunded
them
to
performe
to
magistrates
,
howe
easily
might
they
be
drawen
aside
from
the
same
?
Yea
they
through
ignorance
,
not
beeing
able
to
put
a
difference
betweene
trueth
and
falsehoode
,
howe
readily
might
they
be
moued
to
thinke
it
to
be
true
that
they
doe
say
vnto
them
,
who
were
onely
reputed
and
taken
for
holy
Church
,
that
the
Pope
is
Christes
Vicar
:
that
he
is
so
much
more
excellent
then
any
worldly
potentate
,
as
the
soule
is
better
then
the
body
:
that
there
is
no
lesse
difference
betweene
the
glory
of
the
Emperour
and
the
pope
,
then
is
betweene
the
brightnesse
of
the
Sunne
and
of
the
Moone
.
The
pope
being
like
the
Sunne
,
and
the
Emperour
compared
to
the.
Moone
which
hath
her
light
from
the
Sunne
.
These
and
other
such
like
blasphemies
against
the
maiesty
,
whome
God
hath
placed
vpon
earth
,
were
accompted
good
doctrine
,
and
strong
proofes
through
want
of
knowledge
.
And
this
very
effect
that
ignorance
did
worke
,
whereby
the
very
brokers
for
the
church
of
Rome
,
did
see
themselues
and
their
masters
esteemed
halfe
as
Gods
,
and
their
messages
receiued
more
readily
,
and
more
constantly
kept
,
and
more
willingly
obeied
,
then
gods
word
by
a
great
deale
,
made
them
to
proclaime
so
lowde
,
and
so
stiffly
to
maintaine
,
that
ignorance
is
the
mother
of
deuotion
.
And
why
should
they
not
,
And
as
this
ignorance
hath
beene
a
great
cause
that
the
pope
hath
mightily
preuailed
,
and
aduaunced
his
seate
farre
higher
than
became
one
of
his
coate
,
and
yet
his
pride
was
neuer
spied
of
many
:
And
thus
much
of
the
shifts
and
sleights
that
the
Bishop
of
Rome
vsed
to
come
to
his
greatnesse
,
by
little
and
little
,
growing
to
that
that
now
we
see
.
Sometime
vsing
flattery
,
falshood
and
forgery
,
yea
,
and
afterwards
bringing
the
emperour
vnder
by
plaine
force
and
feare
:
alwaies
taking
aduantages
and
oportunities
,
when
emperors
were
either
otherwise
imployed
in
affaires
,
or
hated
for
their
life
,
or
some
way
so
distressed
,
that
they
could
not
withstand
him
and
his
partakers
,
then
would
hee
most
earnestly
pursue
and
persecute
them
,
vntill
he
had
his
wil
,
which
I
trust
will
appeare
plainely
in
the
discourse
that
now
I
am
to
enter
into
,
which
is
as
it
were
a
trial
and
search
of
the
doings
of
the
bishop
of
Rome
and
of
his
behauiour
,
after
that
he
beganne
to
be
so
mightie
.
Now
to
take
a
good
and
sufficient
suruey
of
the
popes
Supremacie
,
it
is
not
inough
to
trie
his
Title
,
to
see
his
euidence
,
and
consider
of
his
proof
,
neither
yet
to
acquaint
our selues
with
his
shifts
and
practises
,
wherby
he
hath
gotten
himself
into
that
very
high
seate
and
fulnes
of
power
,
Sixtus
Quintus
speaketh
)
which
they
would
seeeme
to
claime
by
right
,
and
wherein
now
they
play
more
than
rex
,
of
which
two
points
I
haue
spoken
before
:
but
it
is
also
(
in
my
iudgement
)
very
necessary
,
that
we
looke
somewhat
into
his
doings
,
and
examine
how
hee
hath
ruled
and
raigned
,
what
good
he
hath
done
to
the
church
,
what
profit
he
hath
brought
to
the
christian
common-wealth
.
When
God
did
see
the
continuall
rebellion
of
his
people
,
that
they
would
by
no
meanes
be
reclaimed
from
sinne
,
and
howe
little
good
it
had
wrought
in
them
,
that
they
had
beene
very
lately
in
a
grieuous
captiuitie
:
he
then
by
his
prophet
Zachary
chapter
11.
verse
.
16.
threatneth
vnto
them
this
great
and
grieuous
plague
,
that
he
will
raise
vp
a
sheepeheard
in
the
land
,
which
shall
not
looke
for
the
thing
that
is
lost
,
nor
seeke
the
tender
lambes
,
nor
heale
that
that
is
hurt
,
nor
feede
that
that
standeth
vp
,
but
he
shall
eate
the
flesh
of
the
fat
,
and
teare
their
clawes
in
peeces
.
And
that
there
were
such
sheepeheardes
amongst
the
people
of
Israel
,
and
that
wo
and
destruction
belonges
to
them
,
God
by
his
prophet
Ezechiel
chapter
34.
verses
2
,
3
,
4.
doeth
testifie
,
pronouncing
wo
to
the
shepheards
that
feed
themselues
,
eate
the
fat
,
Further
also
that
it
is
not
,
that
signification
of
the
name
head
,
that
will
satisfie
the
popes
ambitious
humour
,
thereby
to
be
counted
a
man
,
onely
able
or
fit
to
guide
and
direct
others
,
but
he
will
so
be
a
head
,
that
hee
must
commaund
,
forbid
,
bind
,
loose
,
retaine
,
remit
,
dispence
,
denie
,
doe
,
and
vndoe
,
as
his
vnbridled
affection
,
should
carie
him
.
Which
soueraigne
power
ouer
the
church
or
any
parte
of
the
church
,
we
cannot
find
that
God
gaue
vnto
any
man
,
either
Peter
,
or
Paul
,
yea
or
to
Christ
himselfe
as
man
onely
(
for
he
was
taught
of
his
father
what
to
doe
,
and
what
to
say
)
much
lesse
then
would
his
vicar
of
Rome
,
if
he
had
but
one
sparke
of
christian
humilitie
,
claime
such
absolute
power
,
ouer
the
whole
earth
.
Seeing
therefore
by
this
name
head
,
hee
chalengeth
greater
power
then
either
any
good
man
would
haue
in
Gods
church
(
for
the
godly
can
be
content
to
speake
of
God
as
God
teacheth
them
,
and
to
doe
as
hee
woulde
haue
them
)
or
is
fit
for
any
man
to
haue
,
as
his
vnruly
doings
do
sufficiently
declare
:
we
iustly
denie
,
that
euer
any
bishop
of
Rome
,
was
of
the
godly
called
the
head
of
the
church
,
in
that
sence
that
it
is
now
vsed
,
as
their
doings
doe
plainly
teach
vs
.
As
for
the
name
Papa
or
pope
it
was
a
common
name
to
all
bishops
as
is
confessed
by
Baronius
,
yea
and
graunted
also
in
this
place
by
master
Bellarmine
himselfe
.
And
it
signifieth
as
much
as
father
or
grandfather
,
so
that
it
seemeth
,
that
it
was
first
giuen
vnto
bishops
by
godly
christians
,
who
did
honour
and
reuerence
them
for
their
calling
.
And
why
may
not
this
name
,
be
aptly
giuen
to
any
diligent
bishoppe
or
pastour
,
in
the
church
of
god
?
The
name
of
vniuersal
bishop
,
Read
all
the
histories
and
it
wil
easily
appeare
,
his
indeuour
was
only
to
haue
the
commanding
of
other
bishops
.
Neither
could
he
be
called
vniuersal
,
if
he
were
the
only
bishop
but
rather
the
singular
bishop
.
But
master
Bellarmine
bringeth
two
or
three
testimonies
out
of
Gregory
wherein
he
complaineth
that
Iohn
patriarch
of
Constantinople
would
be
bishop
alone
.
Gregories
meaning
is
plaine
enough
,
that
he
saith
he
would
only
be
bishop
,
because
he
only
would
haue
the
commanding
of
all
,
that
others
should
indeede
be
his
suffraganes
,
and
at
his
commandement
which
reason
of
Gregory
against
that
title
of
vniuersall
bishop
,
if
it
be
wel
marked
,
giueth
I
thinke
a
wound
vncurable
to
the
church
of
Rome
.
A
soueraigne
authoritie
in
one
to
commaund
all
(
saith
he
)
is
to
take
away
all
bishops
but
that
one
onely
,
but
such
soueraigne
authoritie
ouer
bishops
the
pope
doth
chalenge
in
this
name
of
vniuersall
bishop
,
as
experience
teacheth
:
therefore
he
maketh
him selfe
the
onely
bishop
.
And
this
is
the
thing
that
Gregorie
so
mislyketh
in
Iohn
bishop
of
Constantinople
,
therefore
I
cannot
see
how
it
can
be
tolerable
in
him
of
Rome
.
But
one
may
be
called
a
vniuersall
bishop
(
saith
he
)
in
another
sence
,
as
he
hath
a
care
of
the
whole
church
,
and
so
the
Pope
may
be
called
a
vniuersall
Bishop
.
But
herein
master
Bellarmine
giueth
very
litle
authoritie
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
.
Caesar
Paronius
doeth
plainly
confesse
,
Gregorie
.
Master
Luther
said
not
so
,
master
Bellarmine
onely
feared
that
he
ment
some
such
matter
,
and
therefore
quareleth
with
him
and
telleth
him
that
he
lieth
.
Bellarmine
,
and
in
the
same
action
in
a
great
number
of
places
besids
,
the
bishops
yelding
their
consent
,
do
call
him
most
holy
.
He
is
there
also
called
holy
,
and
why
would
not
that
name
holy
,
which
is
there
also
giuen
to
him
,
Constantinople
,
is
often
called
most
holy
.
Yea
and
the
council
writeth
vnto
Dioscorus
patriarch
of
Alexandria
,
whome
they
depriued
of
his
dignitie
,
because
he
was
a
manitainer
of
Futiches
that
notable
heretick
,
yet
I
say
,
the
conncill
writing
vnto
him
,
doe
call
him
also
most
holy
.
And
whosoeuer
marketh
that
councill
,
shall
see
no
titles
more
common
,
then
most
holy
,
most
blessed
or
happie
,
mow
beloued
of
God
,
and
such
like
.
Neither
were
these
things
giuen
vnto
them
as
names
to
continue
to
them
and
their
seate
,
but
onely
such
titles
,
as
they
thought
well
bestowed
vpon
such
persons
,
as
they
vsed
them
to
.
As
Leo
bishop
of
Rome
,
who
although
he
were
not
without
his
infirmiries
,
yet
sure
he
was
a
man
of
great
gifts
.
And
they
in
aboundance
of
affection
towardes
him
,
called
him
most
holy
.
Must
it
therefore
be
a
name
hereditary
to
that
sinfull
and
shamelesse
broode
that
since
hath
sprong
vp
in
that
place
?
It
were
absurd
to
thinke
,
that
coniurers
,
inchaunters
,
poyseners
,
adulterers
,
and
such
ruffians
and
rakehelles
,
should
be
called
by
right
of
their
seat
most
holy
.
And
yet
now
nothing
more
common
then
this
title
.
His
fauourites
must
not
speake
of
him
,
but
with
this
tearme
of
most
holy
.
Looke
all
his
bulles
and
writings
,
and
you
shall
see
,
that
hee
that
is
most
vnholy
before
God
and
men
,
yet
by
a
lying
stile
must
be
called
most
holy
.
Yea
to
doubt
whether
it
be
a
fit
name
for
his
holinesse
forsooth
or
not
,
is
a
sinne
more
to
be
punished
then
the
breach
of
Gods
lawe
if
it
be
true
that
Gentiletus
writing
against
the
council
of
Trent
reporteth
of
a
bishop
that
was
put
out
of
his
bishopricke
,
Bellarmine
,
doth
not
place
among
the
fifteene
names
that
he
hath
found
out
for
the
pope
,
this
name
most
holy
,
because
in
respect
of
his
vnholinesse
,
he
thinketh
it
pitie
to
bestow
that
name
vpon
him
.
And
therefore
he
should
the
rather
haue
borne
with
master
Luther
,
if
hee
did
maruell
that
the
popes
flatterers
,
would
so
prophane
that
holy
title
,
in
bestowing
it
vpon
so
vnholy
men
,
as
for
the
most
parte
they
haue
all
beene
,
which
these
many
hundred
of
yeares
haue
sit
in
that
seate
.
Or
at
the
least
hee
would
not
haue
giuen
the
lie
to
master
Luther
,
for
signifying
that
Saint
Gregorie
would
haue
misliked
the
abuse
of
that
name
in
these
dayes
.
As
for
the
name
of
Christs
vicar
,
But
now
the
case
is
altered
.
Iohn
.
12.
Alexander
the
sixt
,
and
many
other
.
But
seeing
spirituall
fathers
,
But
as
it
seemeth
,
it
was
neuer
worthy
to
be
reckoned
among
the
councils
.
For
we
haue
it
not
in
the
tomes
of
councils
.
Yea
and
the
pope
Boniface
the
eight
doth
challenge
to
himselfe
that
proud
name
,
Eugenius
,
that
the
church
is
his
masters
wife
.
But
master
Bellarmine
telleth
vs
,
Donatus
,
because
the
church
hath
but
one
husband
,
which
is
Christ
,
therefore
Donatus
is
not
that
husband
,
nor
can
be
.
But
if
master
Bellarmines
distinction
might
serue
that
Christ
is
chiefe
and
yet
there
may
be
an
other
vnder
him
,
Donatus
might
as
well
haue
claimed
to
be
that
husband
then
,
that
the
pope
doth
claime
now
to
be
.
But
it
was
not
then
known
,
that
one
honest
woman
,
might
haue
two
husbands
.
Chrysostome
asso
and
Theophilact
and
all
the
ancient
fathers
make
Christ
the
onely
husband
,
yea
and
Chrysostome
thinketh
,
Bellarmine
,
was
ashamed
his
master
should
come
so
neere
in
name
to
wicked
Ham
first
called
seruant
of
seruants
,
But
now
let
vs
see
to
what
end
M.
Iehouah
,
for
feare
of
offending
that
great
god
:
The
popes
are
sawcie
,
that
make
no
scruple
at
all
to
take
to
themselues
that
name
,
of
the
which
we
ought
not
to
speake
or
thinke
,
but
with
great
reuerence
.
Whether
nowe
are
the
honester
,
the
Iewes
,
or
the
Pope
.
The
Iewes
were
too
scrupulous
.
But
the
Popes
yet
,
that
haue
cast
off
all
reuerence
of
the
maiestie
of
God
,
are
farre
more
blame
worthy
.
And
this
very
name
(
as
I
suppose
)
that
they
called
themselues
gods
,
did
so
imbolden
some
of
them
,
to
set
so
little
by
God
.
As
for
example
,
Pope
Iulius
.
not
the
second
,
that
was
the
lustie
warriour
,
but
the
third
,
that
filthie
beast
,
if
Stories
doe
speaketh
truely
of
him
.
He
loueth
porke
very
well
,
and
when
by
the
commandement
of
his
phisition
,
Dauid
.
If
I
would
indeuour
to
set
downe
all
that
might
be
said
of
the
pride
of
the
bishop
of
Rome
or
at
the
least
of
his
impudent
affection
of
his
claw-backs
,
it
were
harder
to
find
an
outgate
then
an
entrance
,
this
field
is
so
large
to
wander
in
.
For
what
is
it
that
the
Pope
can
not
doe
?
Yea
what
can
God
himselfe
doe
more
then
hee
?
If
wee
will
trust
flattering
Lawyeares
,
in
their
approued
and
allowed
bookes
,
he
is
Christs
vitar
generall
ouer
heauen
,
earth
,
and
hell
,
ouer
angels
good
and
bad
,
yea
they
tell
vs
,
that
the
pope
can
doe
whatsoeuer
God
can
doe
,
except
sinne
.
It
seemeth
that
they
meane
God
can
sinne
,
but
the
pope
is
so
clad
with
holinesse
,
and
compassed
about
with
righteous
dealing
as
with
a
garment
,
that
hee
can
in
no
wise
sinne
,
such
a
staine
cannot
be
in
his
flesh
,
such
a
clog
cannot
hang
at
his
backe
.
O
proud
blasphemie
!
Can
that
man
of
sinne
(
for
Saint
Paul
doubtlesse
speaketh
of
him
)
iustly
so
called
,
Symmacus
,
who
doth
testifie
that
Saint
Peter
did
bequeath
the
euerlasting
gift
of
Merites
,
together
with
the
in
heritance
of
innocencie
to
his
posteritie
.
In
somuch
as
if
they
haue
not
merits
enough
,
yet
that
sufficeth
that
Saint
Peter
hath
done
.
He
addeth
the
reason
,
because
he
(
I
thinke
he
meaneth
Saint
Peter
)
either
doth
aduaunce
them
that
are
worthie
,
or
doth
lighten
such
as
are
aduaunced
.
Now
if
the
pope
himselfe
will
say
,
that
he
in
respect
of
his
chaire
,
hath
a
succession
of
innocencie
,
it
is
no
great
maruel
if
his
flatterers
will
say
he
cannot
sinne
.
But
if
all
the
popes
and
their
parasites
,
would
crie
it
out
neuer
so
loud
,
yet
so
long
as
their
owne
stories
are
remaining
they
shal
be
proued
liers
.
Where
are
now
these
censurers
and
seuere
forbidders
of
Gods
writings
?
Why
vse
they
not
their
authoritie
to
represse
such
blasphemies
?
The
Romish
church
,
Let
vs
see
what
this
petty
God
,
doth
take
vpon
him
,
and
how
he
plaieth
the
God
indeede
?
For
as
I
haue
said
the
bare
name
of
God
(
although
it
be
far
too
much
,
that
it
should
be
giuen
him
by
others
,
or
acknowledged
of
himselfe
)
wil
not
please
him
,
but
he
must
also
doe
as
God
doth
.
And
first
whereas
Christ
is
our
only
lawmaker
and
master
,
as
Christ
himselfe
telleth
vs
,
and
therfore
Saint
Iames
also
exhorteth
vs
that
we
be
not
many
masters
:
And
on
the
contrary
wheras
Christ
reproued
Peter
for
drawing
his
sword
,
euen
in
defence
of
his
master
,
But
he
not
regarding
either
oath
or
duety
,
was
so
farre
from
calling
of
a
councill
,
that
as
much
as
he
could
he
hindered
the
same
.
And
thereupon
nine
Cardinals
leauing
him
,
came
to
Millan
,
and
appointed
a
councill
to
be
kept
at
Pysa
,
whither
the
Emperour
and
French
king
did
send
their
Ambassadours
.
Now
when
otherwise
hee
could
not
hinder
the
council
,
hee
purposed
,
as
a
friend
of
his
telleth
vs
,
Whereupon
he
stirred
vp
against
them
,
all
that
he
could
,
the
Venetians
,
Heluetians
,
Italians
,
Spaniards
.
So
wel
did
he
seeke
for
peace
and
insue
it
,
as
Saint
Peter
commandeth
him
,
whose
successour
he
calleth
himselfe
.
So
much
did
he
regarde
that
promise
,
that
our
Sauiour
Christ
himselfe
,
Siluester
Prierias
a
frier
,
and
maister
of
the
popes
pallace
writeth
in
his
articles
or
foundations
that
he
setteth
Luther
.
Whosoeuer
(
saith
he
)
resteth
not
vpon
the
doctrine
of
the
church
and
bishop
of
Rome
,
as
vpon
an
iufallible
rule
of
faith
,
from
whence
euen
the
holy
scripture
doeth
drawe
strength
and
authoritie
,
is
an
heretike
,
like
vnto
which
is
that
also
of
Eckius
,
To
doubt
of
the
popes
power
it
is
no
lesse
then
sacrilege
.
As
also
it
is
alleadged
out
of
Thomas
of
Aquine
against
the
errors
of
the
grecians
question
66.
That
to
say
that
the
pope
hath
not
supremacy
ouer
the
whole
church
,
is
like
the
errour
of
them
,
that
say
the
holighost
proceeds
not
from
the
sonne
.
But
such
are
heretickes
against
the
godhead
as
it
cannot
be
denied
,
Aquine
,
they
that
do
but
doubt
of
the
popes
supremacy
are
hereticks
against
the
godhead
.
And
is
this
that
Thomas
of
Aquine
,
that
glorious
Saint
and
clarke
,
whose
only
sentence
weigheth
more
,
then
all
the
protestantes
wits
and
wordes
in
the
worlde
,
In
which
respect
I
pray
God
hartely
,
that
hee
may
nightly
water
his
bed
with
teares
,
and
moysten
alwaies
his
breade
with
weeping
rather
then
he
should
see
,
or
his
eies
behold
,
the
destruction
of
this
land
,
which
he
and
such
other
tigers
whelps
so
greedely
gape
for
.
And
I
doubt
not
,
but
our
good
God
,
which
hath
hitherto
very
often
,
not
mercifully
onely
,
but
miraculouslie
also
and
mightely
preserued
and
vpholden
,
the
only
proppe
and
staie
of
this
our
flourshing
lande
,
will
still
pleade
her
cause
against
all
her
foes
,
And
I
beseech
the
Lorde
make
vs
more
patiently
to
beare
his
deserued
wrath
if
it
shall
please
him
to
lay
it
vpon
vs
,
then
we
haue
vsed
thankfully
his
vndeserued
grace
and
fauour
,
which
hetherto
he
hath
shewed
vnto
vs
,
and
continued
amongst
vs
.
And
thus
much
by
occation
of
that
vndue
commendation
,
that
Allen
giueth
vnto
Thomas
of
Aquin.
But
him
and
such
like
I
leaue
to
their
owne
fancies
.
And
to
the
godly
I
say
onely
with
Saint
Iames
,
my
bretheren
haue
not
the
faith
of
our
glorious
Lord
Iesus
Christ
,
But
as
in
many
things
much
,
so
in
nothing
more
doth
the
bishop
of
Rome
darken
Gods
glorie
,
or
thrust
himselfe
into
Gods
place
,
then
,
in
that
he
being
himselfe
a
sinfull
man
,
yea
a
seruant
to
sinne
,
euen
set
and
sold
to
doe
wickedly
,
dareth
yet
take
vpon
him
to
forgiue
sinne
:
Esay
.
I
,
An other
great
abuse
there
is
in
this
there
wicked
doctrine
.
They
promise
their
indulgesnce
generall
to
al
that
die
in
the
defence
Wickedly
therefore
doeth
the
Pope
giue
his
pardon
of
sinnes
,
not
seeing
sorrow
for
sinnes
,
or
purpose
of
amendment
in
them
,
that
buy
or
inioy
those
their
pardons
.
So
Alexander
the
fifth
did
wickedly
abuse
the
words
of
Christ
,
But
if
he
haue
beene
so
sawcie
with
God
,
how
shall
he
behaue
himselfe
thinke
you
towards
men
?
For
that
is
another
point
which
is
neeessarie
to
be
considered
.
Whereby
it
will
appeare
that
as
by
subtilty
he
entred
,
so
with
much
pride
and
more
then
barbarous
cruelty
he
hath
raigned
.
I
told
you
before
,
how
that
when
he
had
first
by
the
emperors
means
got
the
bishops
vnder
him
,
he
neuer
rested
vntil
he
had
not
onely
thrust
the
emeperour
from
hauing
any
thing
to
doe
in
this
election
:
but
also
brought
them
vnder
his
yoke
,
that
they
could
not
be
confirmed
in
the
empire
but
by
him
.
Now
what
folowed
of
this
must
be
declared
.
First
he
did
striue
earnestly
,
to
keepe
all
that
he
had
gotten
,
and
if
any
emperour
hauing
indeede
in
him
any
noble
heart
,
would
seeke
to
recouer
his
ancient
libertie
in
some
part
,
and
to
free
himselfe
,
from
that
Romish
Egypt
,
and
slauish
seruitude
,
wherein
that
proud
Pharo
(
vnmindfull
of
Gods
graces
to
him
,
or
his
duetie
to
others
)
did
seeke
to
detaine
him
:
then
would
the
proud
pope
,
viis
&
modis
,
by
al
meanes
that
possible
he
could
deuise
,
so
persecute
and
afflict
such
,
as
if
he
were
set
vp
of
God
,
to
be
a
pledge
to
all
christian
princes
,
and
(
as
were
the
Cananits
vnto
the
Israelites
)
pricks
in
their
eies
,
But
Theodorus
although
he
willingly
would
haue
kept
that
The
emperour
had
wont
in
the
primitiue
churches
,
to
haue
a
great
saying
in
the
chosing
of
bishops
,
especially
such
as
were
bishops
of
Rome
,
as
all
histories
make
mention
,
and
is
more
euident
,
Adrian
the
first
therefore
being
B.
of
Rome
,
and
hee
thinking
himselfe
much
beholding
to
Charles
the
great
,
for
defending
him
and
his
church
,
from
the
violence
of
enemies
,
did
in
a
council
holden
at
Rome
by
the
emperor
and
the
pope
,
A
necessary
Lawe
doubtlesse
for
our
dayes
,
both
in
respect
of
the
lawe
it selfe
,
and
also
in
regard
of
the
punishment
which
is
to
be
layed
vpon
offendours
▪
And
the
more
to
be
accounted
of
,
because
it
is
de●ised
by
such
,
as
I
hope
they
will
not
saie
can
erre
or
cannot
say
they
seeke
their
bloud
.
Wel
,
notwithstanding
this
decree
set
downe
by
councill
,
as
you
haue
hard
,
Steuen
the
fourth
bishop
of
Rome
,
and
next
but
one
to
this
Adrian
the
first
(
who
by
a
conucil
confirmed
to
the
emperour
this
authoritie
)
Steuen
,
had
not
the
consent
of
the
emperour
,
and
therefore
sent
his
embassadours
vnto
the
emperour
Lodouike
,
to
excuse
the
matter
,
and
to
make
him
beleeue
,
that
he
was
forced
by
the
clergie
and
people
to
take
the
popedome
on
him
.
The
emperorbeing
of
a
very
mild
nature
,
yet
willing
to
retaine
that
priuiledge
willed
them
not
afterward
to
informe
the
emperours
authoritie
,
but
to
keepe
in
their
election
the
decrees
of
their
elders
.
Now
the
emperour
being
forced
for
the
repression
of
some
that
rebelled
against
him
,
to
send
Lotharius
his
sonne
into
Italy
there
to
remaine
:
Paschalis
the
pope
inuested
the
said
Lotharius
in
the
empire
.
But
hee
being
gone
to
his
father
into
Fraunce
for
greater
aid
,
some
of
his
most
trusty
frends
,
were
in
the
meane
time
killed
euen
in
the
palace
of
Lateran
,
Lotharius
.
The
pope
was
commonly
supposed
to
be
guiltie
,
or
at
the
least
to
be
acquainted
,
with
this
outragious
dealing
of
the
Romans
.
And
although
by
other
he
denied
the
fact
,
yet
did
he
acquite
them
that
had
done
that
deede
,
and
pronounced
them
that
were
slaine
,
to
haue
beene
guiltie
of
treason
.
But
howsoeuer
it
was
,
the
emperour
seeing
belike
the
popes
wholy
bent
,
to
depriue
him
vtterly
of
any
consent
in
the
election
of
the
pope
,
doth
himselfe
yeeld
it
into
their
hands
,
making
it
lawfull
for
the
popes
to
take
that
place
vpon
them
,
being
chosen
by
the
clargie
and
people
of
Rome
,
Now
by
this
exemption
which
the
Romans
had
from
the
Emperour
,
that
hee
had
nothing
to
doe
in
their
elections
:
as
they
were
without
feare
of
his
displeasure
,
so
were
they
without
care
of
doing
in
their
elections
as
they
ought
,
and
by
that
means
preferred
many
vnworthie
of
that
place
.
Wherefore
pope
Leo
the
eight
,
Hildebrand
,
as
soone
as
euer
hee
came
to
haue
any
thing
to
doe
for
the
popes
,
that
the
Emperour
or
lay
men
,
should
haue
nothing
to
doe
,
in
the
election
of
the
pope
.
And
because
alreadie
two
Councils
had
giuen
to
the
Emperours
that
authoritie
,
they
that
followed
would
not
altogether
and
directly
,
controll
the
decree
of
the
Councils
,
but
more
craftily
they
so
handle
the
matter
,
that
by
a
very
generall
decree
,
forbidding
all
lay
men
to
meddle
with
elections
,
or
to
inttest
the
cleargie
,
or
rather
threatning
the
cleargie
,
that
will
receiue
anie
ecclesiasticall
promotion
at
the
handes
of
anie
lay
man
,
they
imagine
that
they
annihilate
that
,
which
more
particularlie
,
giueth
to
the
Emperour
that
power
.
And
indeed
most
busie
to
bring
this
about
,
was
Hildebrand
,
(
that
firebrand
of
much
mischiefe
)
who
beeing
pope
,
(
for
that
is
hee
that
was
called
Gregorie
the
seuenth
)
it
was
almost
the
greatest
sinne
that
a
pope
could
commit
,
to
seeke
to
haue
his
election
confirmed
by
the
Emperour
.
But
before
the
time
of
this
Gregorie
the
seuenth
his
papacie
,
as
Pantalcon
reporteth
,
Otho
.
Wherin
yet
by
the
way
,
the
practise
of
these
prelats
is
to
be
noted
.
Frederick
,
some
to
Otho
.
Fred
▪
the
second
.
Thus
we
see
the
pope
hath
set
himselfe
in
Gods
seate
,
as
Tyrus
saieth
of
her selfe
,
His
throne
is
placed
in
the
cloudes
,
and
his
nest
made
very
high
.
Now
what
means
haue
they
vsed
to
clime
vp
into
the
same
?
For
you
must
vnderstand
,
that
impotent
affections
haue
driuen
them
forward
,
so
impudently
to
seek
for
this
honor
.
Which
if
it
do
not
appeare
,
in
that
which
hath
already
bin
said
:
yet
in
that
that
foloweth
,
I
trust
it
wil
be
as
clear
as
the
noone
day
.
For
many
vngodly
&
vnlawfull
practise
they
haue
vsed
,
(
but
what
doe
I
giue
them
such
termes
,
as
doe
nothing
expresse
their
doings
?
)
Aron
.
And
whosoeuer
doth
not
enter
in
by
the
doore
into
the
sheepfold
,
Saul
,
Saul
,
why
persecutest
thou
me
?
but
effectually
also
,
insomuch
as
he
afterwards
laboured
more
aboundantly
than
they
all
.
Whereby
it
is
plaine
,
that
God
would
neuer
haue
the
ministery
of
any
in
his
church
,
but
that
he
called
them
lawfully
thereunto
.
Neither
is
it
enough
for
a
man
to
knowe
that
his
calling
is
good
,
I
meane
his
office
or
function
which
hee
taketh
in
hand
,
vnlesse
hee
haue
within
him
the
testimonie
of
his
owne
conscience
to
assure
him
,
that
hee
is
called
to
that
function
,
not
onely
by
the
outward
calling
lawfully
,
but
also
by
the
inward
calling
of
the
spirit
effectually
.
And
this
is
the
meaning
of
those
Canonists
,
(
who
otherwise
are
shamelesse
in
flattering
the
pope
)
who
dare
thus
affirme
,
Caluine
,
or
any
of
vs
in
these
our
dayes
,
doe
say
of
their
wicked
practises
,
but
what
hath
beene
spoken
and
written
of
them
,
that
by
violence
and
intrusion
,
haue
entered
into
that
seate
.
Platina
himselfe
(
no
Lutheran
)
telleth
vs
that
when
Damasus
was
chosen
pope
,
Vrsicinius
,
And
whilest
neither
of
them
would
giue
place
to
the
other
,
but
both
desired
that
place
,
they
fell
first
to
words
,
and
after
words
to
blowes
,
in
such
sort
,
that
euen
in
the
church
many
were
slaine
on
both
sides
(
some
say
to
the
number
of
one
hundred
thirtie
seuen
.
And
as
there
was
no
regarde
of
the
place
(
for
this
inocent
blod
was
shed
in
the
church
)
so
neither
spared
they
the
very
women
or
any
sexe
.
Howe
shall
wee
find
heere
the
agreeing
or
consenting
election
that
before
I
haue
spoken
of
,
Eulalius
.
And
so
litle
agreement
there
was
in
that
election
,
nay
so
great
dissention
and
so
much
discord
afterwards
,
that
Honorius
the
emperour
for
feare
of
greater
inconuenience
,
was
forced
to
turne
them
both
out
of
the
citie
.
Laurence
:
Theodoricus
then
being
King
of
the
east
Gothes
,
and
at
this
time
ruler
in
Italy
,
Symachus
,
and
to
be
pope
as
before
he
would
haue
beene
,
Theodorick
sent
one
Peter
a
bishop
to
to
displace
them
both
,
and
to
sit
in
that
chaire
himselfe
.
Simachus
found
meanes
that
both
Laurence
and
Peter
,
were
condemned
to
be
banished
.
Whereupon
there
was
amongst
them
a
great
slaughter
,
wherein
neither
virgines
nor
priests
were
spared
as
the
stories
report
.
Yea
some
report
,
namely
Rioch
a
papist
,
Sergius
the
first
was
also
chosen
very
hardly
,
as
writeth
Bergomates
,
Paschalis
,
other
would
chuse
Theodore
.
But
the
gouernour
of
the
citie
and
of
the
souldiers
,
It
is
true
that
Platina
doeth
not
reckon
him
amongest
the
Popes
,
although
he
was
in
that
place
more
than
a
yeare
.
But
it
seemed
that
they
did
not
call
in
question
his
manner
of
chusing
(
for
that
had
beene
a
thing
growen
very
common
before
,
not
to
haue
consent
of
them
that
vsed
to
choose
them
)
but
as
Platina
reporteth
,
is
was
obiected
vnto
him
,
that
he
not
hauing
taken
order
,
Nowe
whether
these
be
the
euill
meanes
whereof
the
histories
speake
,
by
which
pope
Martin
came
to
be
pope
I
cannot
affirme
.
But
many
popes
haue
vsed
as
had
meanes
as
afterwards
(
God
willing
)
shall
appeare
.
Not
long
after
pope
Christopher
,
Next
after
Christopher
commeth
Sergius
the
third
.
Laudo
,
howe
holy
his
ellection
was
,
Iohn
,
as
soone
as
shee
saw
him
.
And
shee
hauing
for
a
time
inioyed
his
companie
and
liking
well
of
the
same
,
first
made
him
bishop
of
Bondnia
,
after
archbishop
of
Raue●●a
,
and
lastly
bishop
of
Rome
,
and
was
not
this
thinke
you
a
canonicall
election
.
But
whether
this
harlot
Theodore
did
violently
place
this
pope
(
which
especially
belongeth
to
my
matter
in
hand
)
or
that
she
by
fauour
obtained
consent
of
the
electours
,
it
is
not
certain
.
But
by
lawfull
meanes
,
it
is
certaine
he
came
not
to
it
.
There
was
also
another
pope
Iohn
after
him
,
thrust
into
that
rowme
,
who
although
he
be
not
numbred
among
the
popes
,
yet
because
he
was
bastard
sonne
to
pope
Sergius
the
third
,
hee
is
woorth
speaking
of
,
in
respect
of
the
good
stocke
he
came
of
.
Therefore
Theodora
that
famous
harlot
,
had
a
daughter
maried
to
Guy
Marques
of
Thuscia
,
her
name
was
Marozia
.
Who
following
the
good
conditions
of
her
mother
,
by
pope
Sergius
had
a
bastard
,
whom
she
and
her
husband
(
hauing
dispatched
pope
Iohn
the
eleuenth
by
stopping
his
mouth
with
a
pillow
)
made
pope
,
and
hee
was
called
Iohn
the
twelfth
.
Thus
did
Marozia
kill
her
mothers
paramour
,
that
shee
might
make
her
husbands
bastard
sonne
(
by
pope
Sergius
)
pope
in
his
roume
.
And
thus
we
see
howe
this
seat
,
wherein
they
will
make
vs
beleeue
,
that
none
can
sit
but
most
holy
fathers
,
is
become
a
denne
for
most
prophane
and
godlesse
ruffians
and
rakehels
.
Iohn
the
twelfth
by
the
their
owne
account
,
Albert
,
or
Albericke
king
of
Italie
.
But
howsoeuer
he
came
to
it
,
he
when
he
was
in
it
,
was
such
a
ruffianly
companion
,
and
so
vicious
,
as
that
it
is
written
,
that
euen
from
his
youth
he
was
starke
naught
,
and
was
not
ashamed
openly
to
keepe
harlots
.
So
youthfull
he
was
,
that
in
him
began
that
by-worde
,
As
merrie
as
pope
Iohn
.
He
came
of
a
good
race
.
For
Marozia
(
of
whom
before
I
spake
)
was
his
grandmother
,
And
of
the
popes
that
were
about
this
time
doeth
the
storie
Among
these
also
,
Benedict
the
tenth
entered
by
force
and
briberie
.
As
immediatelie
after
the
death
of
Innocent
the
fourth
,
So
likewise
,
before
Nicholas
,
the
3.
could
he
chosen
,
the
cardinals
were
diuided
6.
chosen
pope
,
the
cardinals
disagreed
two
yeeres
and
three
moneths
,
or
,
as
other
say
,
two
yeeres
and
six
moneths
.
Bellarmine
.
As
also
before
I
haue
shewed
that
many
times
there
was
no
pope
for
many
moneths
,
yea
sometimes
for
some
yeres
,
because
the
cardinals
could
not
agree
among
themselues
.
Yea
after
Nicholas
the
first
there
was
no
pope
as
some
say
for
eight
yeeres
and
almost
eight
months
:
Thus
haue
I
briefly
runne
ouer
many
of
them
,
whome
in
ancient
histories
I
find
by
fighting
or
force
,
or
other
hard
means
to
haue
intruded
themselues
,
or
else
by
contention
and
strife
to
haue
beene
placed
by
other
in
the
popedome
.
And
not
one
that
so
climeth
vp
by
the
window
,
can
be
saide
lawfully
to
be
chosen
to
the
same
.
But
as
these
by
force
,
so
by
falshoode
other
came
to
the
same
.
Anthemius
,
making
him
againe
the
patriarch
of
Constantinople
,
and
displace
Menas
a
godly
bishop
.
Now
Anthemiu
was
an
Eutychian
,
and
so
did
defend
,
that
there
was
in
Christ
but
one
nature
.
True
it
is
,
that
he
being
made
pope
would
not
performe
that
promise
,
wherein
he
did
well
.
But
if
hee
had
not
by
such
subtile
shifts
sought
to
be
pope
he
had
done
better
.
But
it
seemeth
,
howsoeuer
he
afterwardes
constantly
refused
to
do
that
euill
(
perchance
being
put
in
minde
of
his
offence
by
Siluerius
)
yet
hee
had
a
very
ambitious
minde
,
and
sought
long
before
to
haue
beene
pope
,
Boniface
.
Martine
also
the
second
,
a
proude
pope
and
ambitious
,
by
moouing
trouble
to
Iohn
his
predecessour
,
and
getting
him
cast
in
prison
,
thought
(
perchance
)
the
sooner
to
get
into
that
place
.
But
howsoeuer
it
was
,
it
is
written
of
him
,
that
by
euill
and
indirect
meanes
he
came
to
that
place
,
and
by
craft
or
deceit
(
as
Bale
writeth
.
)
As
for
Honorius
the
second
,
Platina
telleth
vs
how
he
came
to
that
seate
.
For
Leo
Breake-bread
,
a
great
man
in
Rome
(
Calixtus
the
second
being
dead
)
gaue
charge
vnto
the
Cardinals
,
Celestine
.
The
people
were
verie
desirous
to
haue
a
Saxon
the
cardinal
of
S.
Steuen
,
and
also
the
said
Break-bread
,
seemed
willing
to
haue
the
same
,
the
rather
to
get
the
people
to
bee
fauourable
to
him
whom
he
would
haue
,
seeing
the
Cardinals
had
chosen
one
,
against
their
minde
.
And
by
this
subtiltie
of
Breake-bread
was
Honorius
made
pope
.
Frier
Rioche
saieth
,
perchaunce
Honorius
was
not
consenting
to
this
canuasing
to
make
him
pope
.
Whether
he
were
or
not
it
maketh
no
great
matter
.
I
looke
not
nowe
,
what
the
parties
are
,
but
whether
the
election
were
lawfull
,
the
choise
free
,
and
with
willing
consent
,
and
how
he
entered
.
But
Platina
himselfe
misliketh
the
election
.
I
had
almost
forgotten
Boniface
the
eight
,
Celestine
,
if
he
would
be
saued
,
to
giue
ouer
the
papacie
.
Celestine
not
mistrusting
any
falshoode
,
but
thinking
it
was
a
voice
from
God
himselfe
,
gaue
ouer
the
papacy
.
Vrban
the
sixt
likewise
was
thus
chosen
,
Francis
Guicciardine
a
papist
too
in
his
historie
of
Italie
)
that
the
Cardinals
might
be
the
more
willing
to
chuse
him
to
be
pope
,
in
hope
that
he
would
soone
be
dead
,
did
by
art
iucrease
the
opinion
of
weaknesse
,
which
by
reason
of
his
age
,
(
for
he
was
lxvii
.
yeares
olde
)
they
had
conceiued
of
him
.
But
for
all
his
feigned
weakenesse
,
he
liued
pope
more
then
xv
.
yeares
.
A
longer
time
then
commonly
the
popes
of
these
latter
times
are
suffered
to
liue
.
An other
kind
of
cunning
also
there
is
,
Formosus
,
Bergomates
and
Stella
,
writing
vpon
Romanus
that
was
pope
soone
after
Formosus
,
doe
shew
the
practise
of
popes
of
those
times
to
get
the
popedome
.
And
that
the
world
may
see
howe
good
choise
they
made
.
It
is
written
that
one
of
them
(
Sigebert
saith
Benedict
,
but
Fasciculus
temporum
saith
Gregorie
the
sixt
)
was
so
vnlearned
,
that
hee
was
faine
to
get
one
chosen
to
say
Masse
,
and
play
the
Pope
in
the
church
,
The
church
that
hath
so
bad
heades
must
needes
be
sicke
of
the
headach
,
It
is
reported
by
the
writers
of
histories
,
Clement
,
was
Iohn
the
ninteenth
sommoned
in
such
sort
,
when
he
had
beene
pope
litle
more
then
three
monethes
.
Clement
Benno
the
cardinall
writeth
that
hee
was
rather
poysoned
by
Brazutus
that
godlesse
wretch
and
that
Heldebrand
that
firebrand
of
much
mischiefe
,
Gerard
Brazutus
was
readie
straight
way
to
giue
him
a
drinke
that
did
them
litle
good
.
So
●hat
poysoning
seemeth
at
that
time
,
to
be
but
a
popelike
practise
,
Benno
.
But
master
Bellarmine
endeuoureth
as
much
as
hee
can
,
to
impaire
the
credit
of
that
history
.
And
to
that
end
he
gathereth
all
that
he
can
find
out
of
other
histories
,
Angelo
.
Yea
euen
their
dearest
frends
,
if
they
were
rich
they
would
serue
so
,
as
they
did
the
cardinals
of
Capua
,
and
Mantua
.
But
that
kind
of
death
that
they
had
brought
many
vnto
,
the
pope
himselfe
then
tasted
of
,
and
the
sonne
very
hardly
escaped
,
but
his
being
sicke
at
that
time
was
a
meruelous
ouerthrow
of
his
estate
.
Yea
we
see
how
they
that
were
conspirers
together
,
to
poyson
many
,
did
now
shew
their
skill
,
one
vpon
another
.
The
sonne
poysoning
the
father
,
for
he
sent
the
poysoned
bottels
.
Cardinall
Benno
writeth
the
like
also
of
Iohn
the
ninteenth
,
Siuester
,
and
of
Benedict
the
9
,
who
as
he
saith
,
was
by
the
diuell
choked
in
a
wood
.
But
I
of
purpose
let
passe
many
of
these
examples
.
For
I
haue
beene
much
longer
then
I
had
purposed
,
in
these
practises
of
the
popes
,
to
get
into
this
chaire
.
If
I
should
come
to
the
election
of
popes
in
these
our
times
is
it
not
as
easie
to
see
,
as
the
sunne
at
noon
day
,
that
there
is
almost
none
chosen
to
that
seat
,
but
by
fauour
,
briberie
,
suite
,
or
to
please
and
pleasure
some
princes
,
or
in
respect
of
some
faction
?
Is
not
this
the
spêciall
care
that
they
haue
in
their
elections
,
who
is
fittest
to
maintaine
their
owne
pride
,
and
most
likelie
to
serue
their
owne
turne
?
Are
all
their
popes
chosen
now
canonically
,
without
respect
of
any
thing
,
but
to
chuse
the
fittest
?
If
the
greatest
friends
that
the
Romish
church
hath
,
were
so
shamelesse
that
they
would
say
so
,
yet
their
owne
heart
within
them
,
would
tell
them
that
they
lie
.
Well
then
,
if
to
bee
thrust
into
that
place
by
others
,
or
to
intrude
themselues
,
if
to
get
it
by
fighting
and
brawling
,
by
poisoning
and
killing
,
by
bitter
contention
and
strife
,
by
craft
and
falshood
,
by
briberie
and
gifts
,
by
murthering
and
mischiefe
:
To
bee
short
,
if
to
climbe
into
it
by
helpe
of
the
diuell
,
and
by
such
horrible
wickednesse
,
as
Christian
eares
cannot
well
endure
to
heare
,
be
to
enter
in
at
the
doore
,
and
to
be
chosen
canonically
,
then
we
will
confesse
that
mame
of
the
popes
haue
entered
well
.
But
if
this
be
to
come
as
a
theefe
,
and
a
murtherer
,
then
what
meaneth
the
church
of
Rome
,
so
to
●●ag
of
their
succession
,
which
euen
by
their
owne
lawes
(
set
downe
a
little
before
)
hath
so
often
,
and
so
notoriously
beene
interrupted
?
What
meane
these
factours
and
brokers
for
Simon
Magus
,
that
briber
and
sorcerer
,
to
vauat
themselues
,
to
be
successuors
to
Simon
Peter
?
These
are
such
heads
,
as
the
church
of
Rome
can
affoord
vs
.
These
are
they
,
that
we
must
call
most
holy
fathers
.
These
,
euen
these
are
they
that
cannot
erre
,
if
you
will
trust
the
church
of
Rome
.
And
yet
in
all
that
they
doe
,
there
is
nothing
but
erring
,
out
of
the
right
way
.
They
are
like
men
,
that
pretending
to
shoote
at
a
marke
,
turne
their
backe
of
it
,
and
shoote
the
cleane
contrarie
way
.
And
as
they
are
content
to
vse
any
meanes
be
it
neuer
so
vnlawfull
,
to
get
into
that
seat
,
so
when
they
are
gotten
once
into
it
,
they
are
become
lawlesse
and
shamelesse
,
as
by
some
examples
shall
be
shewed
.
Honorius
the
third
,
did
very
sawcely
oppose
himselfe
against
the
emperour
Fredericke
the
second
(
as
also
did
some
other
of
his
felowes
)
and
did
excommunicate
him
and
depriued
him
of
his
imperiall
dignitie
.
Thomas
,
who
kept
from
him
forceably
some
of
his
castels
and
possessions
,
Abbas
Vrspergensis
,
and
in
Mathew
of
Paris
,
it
appeareth
that
the
emperour
was
sick
,
in
somuch
as
hauing
vndertaken
the
iorney
,
by
reason
of
his
sicknesse
,
hee
was
forced
to
returne
againe
.
But
it
is
plaine
enough
to
them
that
marke
the
sequel
,
that
the
pope
did
but
picke
a
quarrel
against
the
emperour
,
that
he
might
inuade
his
possessions
.
The
emperour
seeing
this
saucie
pope
,
so
cruely
and
couetously
bent
against
him
,
consulted
with
some
of
the
Romans
(
with
such
I
say
as
were
of
principall
account
among
them
)
how
he
might
bind
the
people
of
Rome
,
to
acknowledge
themselues
to
be
his
subiects
,
which
he
brought
to
pas
.
Then
the
pope
sent
forth
against
the
emperor
,
another
thundercracke
of
excommunication
.
For
which
his
insolent
fact
,
the
pope
by
the
people
was
forced
to
flee
out
of
Rome
.
And
durst
not
returne
in
two
yeares
.
Now
the
emperour
to
please
the
pope
went
to
the
holy
land
as
they
call
it
.
But
the
pope
doth
now
shew
himselfe
to
haue
had
no
other
meaning
,
in
sending
him
to
fight
for
the
holy
land
,
Abbas
Vrsp
.
before
named
,
but
especially
by
Mathew
of
Paris
,
who
in
a
letter
written
to
Richard
earle
of
Cornewall
by
Fredericke
the
emperor
of
the
report
of
all
the
popes
dealing
with
the
saide
emperour
,
Henry
,
Iohn
Bale
out
of
this
Mat.
Paris
allegeth
,
did
promise
eternall
life
to
al
them
that
would
fight
against
the
emperour
.
As
if
so
cursed
a
creature
had
it
to
bestow
at
his
pleasure
:
or
as
if
rebellion
against
Gods
ordinance
might
looke
for
so
good
and
great
a
recompence
.
I
might
enter
into
a
large
and
wide
fielde
of
the
notorious
o●stinacie
and
vnlawful
dealing
which
sundry
of
the
popes
haue
vsed
against
their
lords
&
emperors
.
But
I
haue
staid
somwhat
long
in
this
example
,
because
it
appeareth
by
the
stories
,
that
as
their
dealing
against
him
was
lewd
and
cruel
,
so
the
cause
was
their
owne
priuate
matters
,
which
caried
them
with
an
vndrideled
affection
to
do
whatsoeuer
they
could
mischieuously
deuise
,
if
they
had
power
to
put
it
in
execution
,
not
regarding
what
impietie
they
committed
against
God
,
or
what
wrong
against
man
,
or
what
disgrace
the
brought
to
themselues
,
an
their
place
,
so
they
might
worke
their
wil.
The
Rocke
to
Peter
this
crowne
gaue
,
And
Peter
bids
that
Rafe
it
haue
.
This
Henry
that
was
most
villainously
abused
,
by
that
prowde
beast
and
his
successors
,
is
he
of
whome
Paulus
Langius
bringeth
the
testimonie
of
Otho
Frisingensis
,
that
he
was
the
first
emperor
of
Rome
that
he
could
find
(
although
he
marked
diligently
in
reading
)
that
euer
was
excommunicated
,
or
depriued
of
his
kingdome
by
the
bishop
of
Rome
.
Aquine
,
a
man
that
liued
in
the
dayes
of
corruption
,
or
of
Francis
of
Toledo
,
some
seditious
papist
of
our
time
,
or
of
that
late
Councill
of
Lateran
,
not
much
aboue
300.
yeares
since
,
that
can
make
it
a
Catholike
doctrine
.
But
to
end
this
storie
of
Henrie
the
fourth
,
Paschalis
who
was
not
long
after
Gregorie
,
did
not
only
prosecute
the
matter
with
all
extremitie
,
against
he
said
Emperour
whilest
hee
was
aliue
,
as
did
Gregorie
before
him
:
Psalme
,
Frederick
,
and
withall
he
shewed
the
popes
letter
,
mouing
him
to
destroy
the
emperor
,
and
therby
did
it
appeare
to
all
that
heard
thereof
,
that
the
pope
was
a
traitor
to
Gods
cause
,
&
the
emperors
person
.
But
I
am
weary
of
raking
in
these
chanels
.
And
this
which
is
already
said
,
is
I
trust
,
sufficient
to
point
vnto
the
vnreuerent
vnhonest
,
&
vnchristian
proceedings
which
these
godles
and
prophane
vgly
monsters
vsed
,
after
that
once
they
came
to
their
height
of
honor
:
abusing
the
colour
and
pretence
of
religion
and
holines
,
to
hide
their
violent
and
bilanous
practises
:
And
makng
that
seuere
censure
and
sharpe
chasticement
,
And
so
from
that
time
,
which
was
about
the
yeare
796.
vntil
the
time
of
Innocent
the
second
about
the
yeare
1139
they
continued
in
subiection
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
being
gouerned
at
his
appointment
343
yeares
.
Nowe
the
pope
not
knowing
presently
how
for
to
amend
himselfe
or
to
hinder
their
purpose
,
yet
thought
he
would
so
bridle
them
,
cap.
Psalmista
.
and
the
Dist.
21.
cap.
Cleros
maketh
next
the
dog
driuer
and
doorekeeper
)
should
so
be
accursed
,
that
(
vnlesse
it
were
in
time
of
death
)
he
might
not
be
absolued
of
any
,
but
the
pope
onely
.
For
this
cause
also
Onuphrius
writeth
that
the
people
of
Rome
were
excommunicated
,
Inocent
.
Well
,
Lucius
the
second
pope
of
that
name
,
although
he
had
great
cause
to
haue
though
of
other
matters
(
for
at
that
time
there
was
a
maruelous
great
plague
,
But
his
holinesse
,
being
as
vnwilling
to
learne
a
good
lesson
,
of
Iorden
the
pretor
or
Alderman
of
Rome
,
as
were
the
Pharises
to
be
taught
of
him
,
whom
Christ
made
to
see
,
(
Thou
arte
say
they
altogether
borne
in
sinne
,
But
the
Romanes
hearing
of
this
pope-like
enterprise
,
Robert
Barnes
reporte
out
of
Naucler
.
Sum.
Anton.
and
Iacob
.
Colum.
Now
this
question
betweene
the
Romans
and
the
bishop
of
Rome
continued
in
doubtfull
case
as
appeareth
by
frier
Rioch
and
others
for
a
season
,
namely
whilest
Eugenius
the
third
,
Anaslasius
the
fourth
,
and
Adrian
the
fourth
liued
,
the
Romans
seeking
to
haue
their
liberties
of
choosing
their
magistrates
,
confirmed
vnto
them
by
the
popes
,
the
popes
on
the
other
side
repining
against
that
which
the
Romans
did
.
Yet
in
the
time
of
Alexander
the
third
they
came
to
this
agreement
that
the
magistrates
chosen
by
the
Romans
,
should
not
meddle
with
their
office
,
vntill
they
had
beene
sworne
to
be
faithfull
to
the
church
of
Rome
and
the
pope
.
And
thus
this
controuersie
,
that
was
betweene
the
citie
of
Rome
,
Thus
we
see
,
how
the
bishops
of
Rome
,
to
the
end
that
their
authoritie
might
the
more
smoothly
proceede
without
controlment
,
did
seeke
to
take
these
rubs
out
of
their
waie
.
Hitherto
we
haue
in
part
seene
,
in
what
sort
the
bishops
of
Rome
being
come
to
their
hieght
haue
deale
with
their
betters
,
and
how
roughly
they
haue
handled
them
.
But
perchance
their
friends
wil
excuse
them
,
because
that
by
doing
as
they
haue
done
,
they
haue
defended
(
will
they
say
)
the
rights
and
priuileges
of
the
church
of
Rome
.
But
howe
will
they
excuse
the
slauish
seruitude
,
wherunto
they
brought
the
greatest
princes
?
And
Pope
Steuen
hauing
gotten
into
his
handes
the
exarchie
of
Rauenna
,
Pipin
,
whom
he
also
rewarded
by
making
him
king
of
Fraunce
,
Zachary
,
or
Steuen
that
was
next
after
him
,
did
depose
the
French
king
from
his
rightfull
crowne
,
yet
Platina
whose
words
I
rather
beleeue
then
master
Bellarmine
,
Platina
.
Whereby
it
appeareth
that
the
ambition
of
Pipin
,
and
wrong
dealing
of
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
was
a
cause
that
Childerick
was
deposed
.
But
to
returne
to
my
matter
againe
,
we
see
what
pope
it
was
,
Yet
let
vs
see
what
more
reuerence
these
proud
prelats
can
suffer
to
be
done
vnto
them
.
It
is
also
recorded
that
another
time
the
king
of
England
on
the
one
side
,
and
the
French
king
on
the
other
performed
him
that
seruice
.
Frederick
Barbarossa
the
emperour
vnto
the
pope
Adrian
the
fourth
,
although
he
had
no
great
thankes
for
his
labour
.
Frederick
,
did
afterwards
also
hold
the
stirrop
to
pope
Alexander
the
third
,
(
a
cruel
and
shamelesse
enemie
to
the
said
emperour
)
as
appeareth
by
a
letter
which
master
Fox
in
his
Actes
and
Monuments
aleadgeth
out
of
Roger
Houeden
and
William
of
Gisborough
.
In
which
Letter
it
doeth
most
plainely
appeare
,
not
onely
that
the
Emperour
did
holde
his
stirrop
,
for
the
pope
confesseth
so
much
in
writing
vnto
the
Archebishoppe
of
Yorke
and
to
the
Bishop
of
Durham
,
and
would
haue
them
to
reioyce
for
the
good
successe
of
the
church
(
for
the
church
is
much
increased
when
the
popes
stirrop
is
holden
by
such
)
but
also
he
cause
they
said
to
Moses
and
Aaron
,
that
they
tooke
too
much
on
them
,
seeing
all
the
people
were
holy
:
howe
great
then
shall
their
iudgement
be
,
that
abuse
all
,
euen
the
mightiest
Monarchees
,
at
their
pleasure
?
Doest
thou
see
(
O
Peter
)
thy
successour
,
and
thou
O
sauing
Christ
,
behold
thy
vicar
?
Marke
well
howe
farr
the
pride
of
the
seruant
of
thy
seruants
,
is
gone
vp
,
Nowe
if
wee
search
and
trie
from
whence
hee
hath
anie
warrant
for
this
his
Luciferian
behauiour
against
God
and
man
,
what
can
hee
answere
?
Hee
hath
no
commaundement
,
nor
any
proofe
or
approbation
of
it
in
Gods
worde
,
no
example
of
the
godlie
.
Diotrephes
,
who
loued
to
haue
the
preheminence
.
Rainer
,
for
that
was
his
name
before
,
an
excellent
good
man
,
O
fond
hypocrite
,
yet
when
he
had
taken
it
vpon
him
,
it
was
done
with
many
ceremonies
,
to
make
him
seeme
more
glorious
.
For
hauing
gotten
this
double
conquest
,
First
he
putteth
on
him
a
crimson
robe
,
And
thus
I
trust
it
appeareth
,
how
insolently
and
stately
the
bishops
of
Rome
haue
behaued
themselues
,
hauing
by
very
vniust
meanes
gotten
to
that
greatnes
wherein
they
are
.
I
might
by
infinite
examples
haue
shewed
this
to
be
true
.
For
all
stories
are
full
of
their
insolent
doings
.
But
my
indeuour
is
only
to
shew
,
that
as
they
claime
by
an
vniust
title
,
so
they
do
in
many
respects
abuse
their
greatnesse
.
Which
hitherto
I
haue
proued
,
because
so
saw●ily
they
match
themselues
with
God
,
spurn
against
the
highest
authoritie
,
&
magnifie
themselues
in
al
their
behauiour
.
The
stories
also
do
point
out
vnto
vs
their
incredible
auarice
,
and
more
then
greedy
couetousnesse
,
which
is
so
insatiable
that
no
summes
of
money
can
satisfie
,
no
kingdomes
can
stanch
the
same
.
It
is
a
world
to
consider
,
what
large
and
ample
dominions
they
haue
gotten
into
their
hands
,
what
landes
and
territories
.
Whereinto
they
hauing
intruded
themselues
,
by
setting
princes
together
by
the
eares
,
or
such
other
subtile
practises
:
and
yet
would
seeme
somtime
to
hold
the
same
by
the
gift
of
Constantine
,
sometime
from
Charles
the
great
,
sometime
from
his
son
Lewes
.
But
from
whom
they
should
claime
to
holde
their
possessions
.
they
are
not
yet
fully
resolued
as
it
seemeth
.
But
how
great
soeuer
their
possessions
are
,
or
howe
they
holde
them
,
I
am
not
purposed
to
examine
.
My
purpose
is
rather
to
shew
how
little
contented
they
are
with
all
that
they
haue
,
and
how
still
they
haue
new
deuises
,
and
other
practises
,
to
get
money
into
their
coffers
.
Henry
.
And
yet
would
he
not
at
his
request
do
so
much
,
But
what
should
we
enter
into
any
particulars
in
this
point
?
What
bishop
could
get
his
alowance
or
confirmation
to
any
bishopricke
,
Iohn
,
as
himselfe
sheweth
,
of
the
which
dayes
also
did
the
nobles
of
England
complaine
bitterly
,
because
he
did
subiect
himselfe
to
the
pope
,
and
so
brought
their
land
into
a
miserable
slauerie
.
Iohn
,
to
the
ende
that
all
things
might
be
swallowed
vp
of
the
gulfe
of
the
Romish
auarice
.
Neither
is
the
pope
Honorius
the
third
ashamed
to
confesse
this
fault
,
Otho
.
For
in
his
letters
hee
confesseth
,
that
there
can
be
no
dispatch
in
the
court
of
Rome
,
without
great
expences
and
gifts
,
and
acknowledgeth
that
this
is
an
old
staine
to
that
church
.
And
for
to
take
away
this
slaunder
,
he
&
his
cardinals
had
deuised
a
good
way
(
as
he
thought
)
which
is
,
that
he
might
haue
in
euery
cathedrall
church
two
prebends
,
and
such
like
of
abbeis
.
Robert
Grosted
,
In
like
manner
did
the
same
pope
behaue
himselfe
in
hearing
the
matter
betweene
Walter
elect
archbishop
of
Canterbury
on
the
one
side
,
and
the
king
and
sundry
bishops
on
the
other
side
.
And
although
it
were
obiected
against
the
archbishop
by
the
king
and
the
bishops
,
that
in
sundry
respectes
hee
was
vnfit
,
These
and
such
other
corruptions
and
extortions
of
the
Bishops
of
Rome
,
made
them
so
odious
to
the
king
of
England
and
his
nobles
,
Robert
Grosted
B.
of
Lincolne
durst
boldly
say
to
the
pope
and
in
his
hearing
,
O
money
,
money
,
how
much
canst
thou
doe
especially
in
the
court
of
Rome
,
But
where
is
that
pastorall
care
,
that
these
Bishoppes
should
haue
had
ouer
Christs
flocke
,
or
which
they
at
the
least
pretended
to
haue
,
in
their
Bulles
and
writings
?
Where
is
their
reioycing
at
the
zeale
and
godlinesse
of
the
people
?
As
is
their
studie
,
so
is
their
ioy
.
Their
studie
is
how
to
get
and
winne
temporall
possessions
,
they
reioyce
when
they
haue
gotten
the
same
.
I
haue
hitherto
proued
this
especially
by
our
owne
stories
,
because
they
should
most
moue
vs
to
consider
,
what
bondage
and
slauerie
we
haue
beene
brought
vnto
,
and
giue
vs
warning
to
take
heede
,
how
wee
subiect
our selues
to
them
,
who
vnder
pretence
of
holinesse
,
doe
not
onely
deuoure
widowes
houses
,
but
euen
infinite
treasures
,
yea
and
princes
kingdomes
also
.
Other
kingdomes
were
not
free
from
these
pollings
,
as
may
appeare
by
the
stories
of
Fraunce
,
and
other
places
.
For
what
place
is
there
,
And
not
long
after
,
Gregorie
the
eleuenth
demaunded
a
tenth
of
all
the
cleargie
men
through
the
empire
,
To
be
short
,
And
againe
,
in
the
same
chapter
,
Honour
the
King
.
But
what
doth
Christs
bad
vicar
,
Let
such
as
loue
the
truth
,
and
haue
desire
to
saue
their
owne
soules
,
thinking
earnestly
of
these
matters
.
If
the
doings
of
the
bishops
of
Rome
for
many
hundred
yeares
,
be
not
plaine
contrarie
to
that
which
our
sauiour
Christ
and
his
apostles
did
and
taught
,
I
craue
no
credit
.
But
if
they
be
,
let
no
man
,
no
woman
be
so
simple
,
in
a
matter
of
so
great
importance
,
as
by
shew
of
good
words
(
in
which
yet
there
is
no
truth
,
no
sinceritie
,
nothing
but
hipocrisie
)
to
be
carried
away
and
deuoted
vnto
a
church
,
in
name
holy
,
but
indeede
most
prophane
,
in
name
a
mother
,
but
in
truth
a
froward
stepmother
:
or
to
a
pope
insatiable
in
couetousnesse
,
proude
and
ambitions
,
and
to
all
countries
and
princes
pernitious
and
pestilent
.
Nowe
as
their
arrogancie
(
since
they
came
to
such
excessiue
greatnes
)
was
intolerable
,
their
greedinesse
vnsatiable
,
so
their
mischieuous
malice
hath
beene
vnmesurable
.
This
appeareth
most
plainly
,
not
only
in
their
dealings
with
others
,
Formosus
?
For
he
was
not
content
to
reuoke
his
acts
,
and
disanul
his
decrees
,
(
although
he
preferred
him
to
be
a
bishop
)
but
like
a
cruell
and
vnthankfull
churle
,
All
stories
almost
with
full
consent
,
doe
declare
and
detest
this
beastly
crueltie
.
Steuen
,
although
he
was
pope
but
twentie
dayes
,
yet
was
loth
not
to
make
one
in
this
skirmish
,
(
for
hee
had
no
vertue
in
him
saith
the
storie
)
he
approued
against
all
that
Formosus
had
done
,
and
so
set
himselfe
against
Steuen
his
faction
.
Then
came
Iohn
the
tenth
,
who
yet
tooke
great
parte
with
Formosus
.
And
when
many
of
the
Romans
were
displeased
thereat
,
he
left
Rome
,
and
went
to
Rauenna
,
where
he
called
a
councill
,
and
there
did
not
onely
reuiue
as
it
were
Formosus
his
decrees
,
disanulling
,
yea
casting
into
the
fire
,
that
which
Steuen
had
done
against
Formosus
,
Not
long
after
came
Sergius
the
third
who
tooke
vp
the
dead
and
mangled
body
of
Formosus
and
did
execution
thereupon
,
Iacob
.
Iohn
Stella
of
Venice
.
Such
was
the
euil
hap
of
that
age
,
that
all
vertue
through
mens
slothfulnesse
,
was
decayed
as
well
in
the
head
as
in
the
members
.
But
why
was
Sergius
so
mortall
an
enemie
to
Formosus
?
Otho
,
Peter
the
pretor
or
chiefe
man
of
the
citie
,
who
was
in
the
conspiracie
,
the
emperour
deliuered
to
the
pope
,
perchance
to
trie
how
readie
he
would
be
according
to
the
commaundement
of
Christ
,
to
loue
his
enemies
and
them
that
hate
him
.
Iohn
,
deliuereth
the
prisoner
to
the
tormentor
,
with
charge
to
shaue
his
beard
(
for
to
disgrace
him
)
to
pull
off
his
garments
,
to
hang
him
by
the
heare
of
the
head
,
for
a
whole
day
together
then
was
he
set
vpon
an
asse
,
his
face
being
turned
to
the
hinder
parts
,
and
his
hands
tied
vnder
the
taile
of
the
asse
,
and
so
led
vp
and
downe
the
citie
,
Is
it
not
too
proude
and
insolent
a
part
,
for
either
Pius
the
fifth
,
Elizabeth
,
whom
God
hath
mercifully
placed
amongst
vs
,
and
ouer
vs
,
and
mightely
and
maruelously
defended
,
from
innumerable
popish
practises
:
and
Henry
king
of
Nauarre
,
and
nowe
also
the
French
king
,
hereticks
,
schismaticks
,
and
I
know
not
by
what
names
of
reproch
,
he
not
prouing
,
no
nor
daring
to
offer
any
reasonable
triall
,
or
lawfull
way
to
prooue
the
same
?
Why
is
hee
afraid
to
haue
religion
tried
by
a
free
generall
council
?
Why
doth
he
hinder
it
by
all
meanes
that
he
can
?
Let
them
then
permitte
this
question
that
is
amongst
vs
to
be
tried
by
a
free
council
.
Let
the
matters
in
controuersie
be
debated
,
let
the
reasons
on
both
sides
be
heard
,
and
wayghed
:
let
indifferent
iudges
be
appointed
,
such
as
sincerly
sighing
,
in
singlenes
of
hart
,
seek
to
know
the
truth
,
&
serue
the
Lord
.
Then
will
it
appeare
who
teach
the
tru
religion
.
But
this
can
neuer
be
tried
by
such
ouer-ruled
conuenticles
as
that
of
Trent
,
wherein
indeed
the
protestants
were
admitted
to
speake
.
But
they
might
say
but
placet
,
wee
are
content
with
that
you
haue
done
.
They
might
not
set
downe
their
reasons
against
Romish
errorn
,
they
might
not
be
heard
to
dispute
.
But
that
was
before
concluded
in
som
priuat
meeting
of
a
few
popish
diuines
,
&
alowed
at
Rome
for
catholike
doctrine
,
and
thence
sent
to
the
council
to
haue
approbatian
of
them
that
durst
not
denie
it
,
to
that
they
might
say
Amen
.
Yea
,
and
what
they
could
haue
said
,
the
council
wold
not
greatly
haue
regarded
as
it
seemeth
.
For
Clement
the
seuenth
,
when
the
emperour
Charles
the
fift
,
and
the
French
king
were
earnest
with
the
said
Clement
,
to
haue
a
free
generall
conncil
permitted
,
Caluin
,
against
that
council
.
How
then
dare
those
arrogant
popes
,
whose
doctrine
can
not
abide
the
touch
,
whose
decrees
do
shun
the
light
,
condemne
princes
for
heretikes
,
or
enemies
to
the
catholike
faith
,
&
yet
will
not
permit
their
faith
and
religion
,
to
be
laid
to
the
rule
&
square
of
the
catholike
doctrine
?
Sixtus
,
5.
that
so
wickedlie
they
dare
presume
,
as
to
giue
such
slaunderous
names
,
to
princes
that
professe
so
vndoubted
a
truth
,
as
then
they
both
did
,
and
yet
our
most
gracious
Soueraigne
dooth
.
But
to
depriue
them
of
their
kingdomes
,
to
release
their
subiects
from
their
bonde
of
obedience
,
to
dispose
of
their
dominions
,
according
to
their
pleasures
,
as
they
would
doe
if
they
could
,
is
as
intollerable
pride
,
as
their
predecessours
before
did
euer
vs
to
other
.
And
so
maliciouslie
to
prosecute
this
their
conceiued
mischiefe
,
as
they
haue
done
these
manie
yeares
,
whi●h
open
tumult
,
with
secrete
conspiracies
,
with
poysoning
of
some
principall
Princes
,
Tertullian
,
Iustin
the
Martyr
,
and
others
that
they
did
,
when
religion
was
yet
professed
in
corners
.
Now
it
is
not
vnlikely
,
but
that
godly
princes
to
exempt
them
from
such
flaunders
and
reproches
,
would
commit
the
hearing
of
those
accusations
vnto
such
as
were
of
best
credite
among
themselues
,
that
when
their
enemie
did
see
that
their
accusations
were
not
like
to
be
fauoured
,
vnlesse
they
were
sufficiently
proued
,
they
might
be
discouraged
,
from
defaming
them
with
vniust
reports
.
But
howsoeuer
these
immunities
were
graunted
vnto
them
at
the
first
,
or
on
what
consideration
,
I
wil
not
precisely
set
downe
.
But
afterwards
I
am
sure
they
tooke
them
as
their
owne
right
,
and
that
they
did
alwayes
belong
vnto
them
.
And
therefore
when
as
the
Emperour
would
haue
taken
vpon
him
to
haue
iudged
of
some
causes
of
cleargie
men
,
Gratian
,
he
shall
see
it
affirmed
with
full
mouth
.
But
how
vntruly
in
a
word
may
be
declared
.
And
first
how
false
that
is
which
he
affirmeth
,
Moses
,
call
him
his
Lord
?
And
why
did
God
deliuer
the
law
.
and
the
order
for
all
the
sacrifices
and
ceremonies
,
and
all
the
seruices
that
were
commaunded
,
rather
by
Moses
to
Aaron
,
and
the
people
,
Moses
being
the
ciuill
magistrate
,
then
by
the
ministerie
of
Aaron
,
who
was
appointed
to
be
the
priest
?
Did
not
God
hereby
testifie
,
Salomon
,
when
at
the
commaundement
of
Salomon
the
king
,
Constantine
,
and
a
good
while
after
,
their
stories
will
teach
vs
,
that
they
as
humbly
as
they
could
submitted
themselues
to
Emperours
and
princes
,
called
them
Lordes
,
intreated
them
with
all
submission
.
Yea
,
and
Leo
the
third
pope
of
that
name
,
And
the
selfe-same
examples
also
doe
plainly
declare
,
that
the
clergie
may
not
be
accused
onely
before
ciuil
magistrats
,
but
punished
also
by
them
according
to
the
qualitie
of
their
offence
.
Neither
did
our
sauiour
Christ
(
whose
immunities
and
exemptions
I
suppose
they
will
confesse
,
were
as
great
as
any
may
claime
)
when
hee
was
standing
before
Pilate
to
be
iudge
,
plead
that
they
might
not
meddle
with
him
,
neither
yet
Saint
Paul
,
when
he
stoode
before
Festus
,
But
saint
Paul
in
appealing
vnto
Cesar
,
dooth
giue
vs
a
strong
argument
to
prooue
,
Thomas
Becket
that
archtraitor
of
England
,
(
and
yet
forsooth
a
Romish
saint
and
martyr
)
doth
sufficiently
declare
.
For
how
traiterously
he
sought
to
in
fringe
the
auncient
liberties
,
Philip
Brocke
,
a
canon
of
Bedford
being
accused
and
tried
of
m●rder
,
gaue
euil
words
to
the
iudges
,
and
the
archbishop
would
not
suffer
him
to
be
punished
by
the
ciuil
magistrate
)
how
stifly
he
set
himselfe
against
the
king
,
to
the
mislike
of
most
of
the
bishops
in
the
land
,
Marcilius
Patiuinus
writeth
)
was
so
desirousto
inlarge
and
increase
the
number
of
his
clergy
,
that
he
would
haue
all
such
as
had
married
a
maide
,
and
contented
themselues
but
with
one
wife
,
My
meaning
is
not
so
lay
open
their
wickednesse
of
life
,
so
long
as
it
is
but
their
priuate
fault
,
The
great
beame
that
troubleth
their
owne
eye
,
they
cannot
see
.
But
as
men
sightlesse
and
sencelesse
,
they
imagine
all
is
well
with
them
,
all
is
catholike
.
Catholike
church
,
catholike
faith
,
catholike
religion
,
catholike
doctrine
.
And
yet
,
if
the
matter
be
well
examined
neither
their
church
,
neither
yet
their
faith
,
haue
any
shew
of
catholike
in
them
.
As
(
I
trust
)
it
is
euident
to
see
,
in
this
Suruey
of
the
Popes
Supremacie
,
that
their
doctrine
is
not
catholike
,
their
doings
are
not
christian
like
.
Let
vs
examine
whether
that
which
they
teach
vs
concerning
this
point
,
haue
bene
taught
likewise
of
al
the
godly
learned
,
or
at
the
least
of
the
most
of
them
,
Viucentius
Lyrinensis
an
old
father
,
requireth
in
that
doctrine
,
that
is
catholike
and
true
.
That
Peter
was
otherwise
a
foundation
in
the
building
of
the
church
of
Christ
,
then
were
other
of
the
Apostles
,
it
is
not
a
catholike
doctrine
.
That
Christ
gaue
to
Peter
onely
the
keies
of
the
kingdome
of
heauen
,
it
is
not
by
these
rules
a
catholike
faith
.
That
the
feeding
of
Christs
sheep
in
the
whole
world
,
or
the
gouernment
of
the
whole
church
,
was
commited
to
Peter
onely
,
or
especially
,
is
most
catholikely
taught
:
so
that
not
one
of
all
these
points
of
their
religion
,
which
are
indeede
the
ground-worke
,
whereupon
they
raise
this
their
stately
building
of
the
popes
supremacie
,
can
be
called
catholike
(
as
is
before
shewed
.
)
But
if
they
could
prooue
these
things
to
be
catholike
,
as
they
will
neuer
be
able
to
doe
,
yet
haue
they
not
obtained
their
purpose
.
For
,
how
is
this
conueyed
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
,
if
it
were
in
Peter
.
It
is
not
catholikely
beleeued
,
that
he
was
bishop
of
Rome
:
neither
yet
that
he
conueyed
his
estate
or
interest
ouer
the
whole
church
(
if
any
such
had
beene
in
him
)
to
the
bishop
of
Rome
.
Or
if
all
this
could
be
proued
,
yet
remaineth
one
point
that
were
able
to
ouerthrow
all
.
For
it
is
not
receiued
as
a
catholike
doctrine
,
that
the
Bishop
of
Rome
cannot
erre
,
or
that
for
sinne
and
errour
,
the
priuileges
which
the
church
of
Rome
claimes
,
if
they
had
any
such
,
could
not
be
forfeited
,
as
well
in
them
as
in
other
churches
.
In
all
which
pointes
,
if
I
haue
nor
sufficiently
prooued
,
that
the
church
of
Rome
teacheth
false
doctrine
and
repugnant
to
the
Scriptures
(
wherein
I
submit
my selfe
to
the
iudgement
of
the
indifferent
Reader
:
)
yet
(
I
trust
)
that
the
aduersaries
them selues
must
needes
confesse
,
that
these
cannot
be
prooued
,
to
be
catholike
doctrines
.
But
on
the
contrary
a
man
may
easily
see
,
if
hee
marke
the
storie
of
times
,
that
these
things
which
are
the
only
pillers
to
vphold
this
popish
kingdom
,
were
neuer
thought
vpon
in
the
Apostles
times
,
or
the
ages
next
to
them
,
that
is
to
say
,
in
the
purer
times
of
the
primitiue
church
.
But
when
heresies
began
to
trouble
the
church
,
and
men
began
to
separat
them selues
from
the
vnity
of
faith
,
more
boldly
,
and
more
openly
then
at
the
first
they
did
.
And
it
pleased
God
to
continue
in
some
reasonable
sort
,
sinceritie
and
trueth
of
religion
in
the
church
of
Rome
:
FINIS
.