A
REPLY
TO
THE
REMONSTRANCE
of
the
Bewinthebbers
or
Directors
of
the
Netherlands
East-India
Companie
lately
exhibited
to
the
Lords
States
Generall
,
in
iustification
of
the
proceedings
of
their
Officers
at
AMBOYNA
,
against
the
English
there
.
THe
Directors
of
the
Netherlands
East-India
Company
,
finding
it
needful
to
defend
their
Officers
at
Amboyna
by
this
Remonstrance
,
referre
themselues
in
the
first
place
vnto
a
former
deduction
which
they
had
exhibited
vnto
the
Lords
States
in
Iuly
last
:
Wherein
they
professe
still
to
insist
.
And
considering
(
say
they
)
the
infallible
Indicia
that
preceded
the
discouerie
of
this
conspiracy
,
and
the
iust
and
Legall
proceedings
vsed
against
the
Complices
,
appearing
by
the
iuditiall
acts
signed
aswell
by
the
parties
examined
,
as
by
the
Gouernor
and
Councell
of
Amboyna
,
who
are
a
Colledge
or
Court
of
Iudges
admitted
and
sworne
;
against
which
no
proofe
,
much
lesse
any
vaine
and
friuolous
suspitions
ought
to
be
admitted
,
they
therefore
conceived
(
vntill
they
see
the
contrary
)
that
the
Consperators
(
as
they
call
them
)
were
lawfully
,
and
rightly
apprehended
,
the
fact
well
prooued
,
according
to
the
Law
and
Custome
of
the
Low-Countries
,
and
consequently
that
the
punishment
was
lawfully
inflicted
,
with
moderation
of
the
rigour
of
Iustice
and
with
clemency
.
This
deduction
of
the
moneth
of
Iuly
heere
mentioned
,
hath
not
beene
yet
imparted
to
the
English
East-India
Companie
.
Otherwise
they
would
haue
examined
the
same
,
as
they
did
the
Relation
printed
in
the
Scheme
of
a
letter
Missive
.
Which
yet
they
verily
beleeue
to
be
the
verie
same
in
effect
,
and
compiled
by
the
same
pen
;
for
that
it
appeareth
by
comparing
of
the
printed
Pamphlet
,
with
the
Acts
of
this
Processe
at
Amboyna
,
here
mentioned
(
copie
whereof
was
communicated
to
the
said
English
Companie
)
that
the
body
of
the
said
Pamphelet
,
(
the
preamble
excepted
)
was
wholie
taken
out
of
the
same
acts
;
onely
with
some
sophistication
,
of
the
act
touching
Master
Towersons
pretended
voluntarie
confession
,
noted
in
the
Answere
to
the
same
Pamphlet
.
Wherfore
although
it
may
be
supposed
that
this
deduction
here
referred
vnto
,
is
already
sufficiently
answered
in
the
said
answere
to
the
Dutch
Relation
;
yet
because
in
this
very
recitall
of
the
Directors
,
there
are
certaine
generall
heads
,
either
recapitulated
out
of
that
deduction
,
or
laid
for
new
grounds
of
the
justification
of
the
Dutch
proceedings
;
it
will
not
be
amisse
to
examine
them
as
they
lie
.
And
first
for
the
infallible
Indicia
pretended
to
haue
preceaded
the
discouery
;
it
is
shewed
in
the
answere
to
the
Pamphlet
,
that
the
Indicia
to
torture
the
first
Iapon
(
which
was
the
beginning
of
the
whole
Processe
)
were
insufficient
in
law
:
the
behauiour
that
this
Iapon
vsed
,
and
vpon
which
he
was
apprehended
,
being
none
other
,
then
that
which
is
and
may
be
vsed
by
any
Souldier
in
the
place
where
he
serueth
,
without
blame
or
suspicion
.
For
other
Indicia
,
there
was
not
the
least
;
neither
of
prouisions
of
the
English
for
such
an
exployte
,
nor
of
Letters
to
or
from
any
Complice
,
nor
of
suspitious
conferences
,
messages
,
or
intelligencies
,
nor
of
flight
or
close
keeping
of
the
parties
;
nor
any
other
agreeing
with
the
rules
or
examples
giuen
by
the
Law
,
or
the
Authors
commenting
thereupon
.
But
being
destitute
of
these
and
the
like
lawfull
Indicia
,
the
Dutch
Officers
were
faine
to
fetch
their
Indicia
out
of
the
Racke
,
and
to
make
the
confession
of
one
tortured
person
Indicium
to
torture
another
,
contrary
to
the
very
expresse
direction
of
the
Law
.
Some
confessions
indeed
,
were
without
actuall
torture
of
the
persons
themselues
:
but
euen
such
had
heard
the
cryes
and
seene
the
bodies
of
others
tortured
and
martyred
before
them
;
which
feare
of
the
Torture
is
by
the
Law
equalled
to
the
torture
it selfe
,
as
hath
beene
shewed
in
the
said
answere
.
The
second
generall
ground
here
layd
,
is
the
juditiall
acts
of
the
Colledge
of
Iudges
at
Amboyna
,
shewing
their
just
and
legall
proceedings
.
The
Acts
indeed
of
any
Court
of
Iustice
being
orderly
kept
,
yeeld
a
very
sufficient
proofe
in
the
point
of
fact
in
Court
:
that
is
,
they
prooue
that
such
and
such
examinations
,
confessions
,
proofes
,
and
euidences
were
taken
and
made
;
and
such
iudgement
thereupon
giuen
as
is
therein
entred
.
But
for
the
point
of
Iustice
,
that
must
be
judged
by
the
comparing
of
the
proofes
with
the
sentence
grounded
vpon
them
.
Now
as
touching
the
orderly
keeping
of
these
Acts
imparted
to
the
English
East
India
Company
as
aforesaid
:
the
same
are
neither
agreeable
to
the
formes
of
other
Courts
,
nor
vniforme
in
themselues
.
For
the
point
of
conformitie
to
other
Courts
,
it
is
not
here
meant
to
require
,
that
the
Acts
of
the
Councell
of
Amboyna
should
in
euery
point
agree
with
the
formes
of
euery
Court
in
the
Low
Countryes
;
the
seuerall
Courts
whereof
haue
their
seuerall
formes
and
stile
,
and
some
differences
in
points
not
substantiall
.
But
some
generall
Requisites
of
forme
there
be
,
which
are
obserued
in
all
Courts
;
yet
omitted
in
these
Acts
of
Amboyna
.
As
first
the
date
of
euery
dayes
passages
ought
to
be
prefixed
or
annexed
vnto
them
;
which
is
not
obserued
in
these
said
Acts.
But
in
these
Acts
the
examination
of
all
the
English
,
being
18
seuerall
prisoners
,
goeth
vnder
the
date
of
the
25.
of
Februarie
:
although
the
confessions
are
so
many
and
so
large
,
as
could
not
possibly
be
taken
in
one
day
:
yea
three
of
the
same
prisoners
,
to
wit
,
Powle
,
Wether
all
,
and
Ladbrooke
were
but
apprehended
first
vpon
the
26.
of
February
,
and
that
at
Cambello
the
outmost
factory
in
Seran
,
and
arriued
not
at
Amboyna
(
where
these
examinations
were
taken
)
vntill
the
second
of
March
stilo
nouo
.
So
that
they
could
not
be
examined
at
Amboyna
the
25.
of
February
as
the
Acts
import
.
Next
,
it
is
a
solennitie
in
all
Courts
,
to
note
in
the
Acts
,
the
day
of
the
examination
of
the
Prisoner
vpon
the
Torture
,
or
in
the
place
of
the
Torture
;
and
then
the
act
of
his
subscription
to
his
confession
vpon
another
day
.
For
these
two
may
not
be
done
vpon
the
same
day
by
the
Law
:
but
the
confession
must
be
iterated
and
confirmed
by
the
Prisoner
being
free
of
bonds
and
irons
,
at
least
a
day
after
the
sence
or
sight
of
the
torture
:
els
it
is
not
held
for
good
,
and
concluding
against
the
partie
that
confessed
it
.
But
in
all
these
Acts
of
Amboyna
,
there
is
but
one
date
and
one
Act
for
both
these
:
contrary
to
the
Law
it selfe
,
and
the
Custome
and
forme
of
all
Courts
.
Thirdly
,
the
Acts
ought
to
specifie
whether
the
Prisoner
confesseth
vpon
Torture
or
without
.
But
these
Acts
doe
not
so
:
but
onely
in
the
generall
;
in
the
beginning
of
the
Acts
of
the
26.
of
February
,
it
is
entred
,
that
some
confessed
before
Torture
,
others
with
little
Torture
as
followeth
,
&c.
Whereby
it
appeareth
not
,
who
was
tortured
and
who
not
;
nor
what
was
confessed
with
,
and
what
without
torture
.
Fourthly
,
the
Acts
ought
to
specifie
what
finally
becometh
of
euery
prisoner
;
but
in
these
Acts
there
is
no
entry
made
what
became
of
Sherrocke
,
Webber
,
and
two
of
the
Iapons
,
to
wit
,
Soysimo
and
Sacoube
;
these
being
by
the
Acts
neither
condemned
,
nor
absolued
,
nor
repriued
;
and
yet
all
foure
are
de
facto
dismissed
and
set
at
libertie
.
As
for
the
point
of
Vniformitie
in
the
Acts
themselues
,
Collins
and
Beamount
are
disposed
of
by
speciall
Act
;
yet
Sherrock
,
Webber
,
and
the
two
Iapons
(
all
in
the
same
case
)
are
discharged
,
as
before
,
without
any
Act
for
it
.
Yea
there
is
an
Act
entred
for
disposing
of
the
Portugalls
wife
,
though
shee
were
neither
accused
nor
examined
:
as
if
shee
had
beene
a
partie
to
the
Processe
,
rather
then
Sherrock
,
Webber
,
and
these
two
Iapons
,
against
all
whom
the
Fiscall
craued
judgment
.
Further
,
some
of
the
Examinations
haue
the
Gouernour
and
his
Councels
names
subscribed
to
them
,
and
some
not
:
some
of
the
confessions
haue
the
prisoners
names
subscribed
and
some
not
;
with
diuers
other
defects
and
disconformities
,
which
easily
and
plainely
discouer
that
they
are
not
allowable
for
orderly
and
authenticall
Acts
of
a
Court
of
Iustice
.
Thus
hath
beene
shewed
what
credit
may
be
giuen
to
these
Acts
in
the
point
of
fact
therein
recorded
.
Now
for
the
point
of
Iustice
,
appearing
by
comparing
the
proofes
against
the
prisoners
with
the
sentence
,
it
is
in
the
first
place
to
be
noted
,
that
there
is
no
proofe
nor
euidence
of
any
thing
entred
in
all
the
said
Acts
,
no
not
so
much
as
a
witnesse
named
,
much
lesse
deposed
,
of
the
least
Indicium
against
the
prisoners
,
or
any
of
them
;
but
onely
the
meere
confessions
of
the
prisoners
themselues
,
drawne
from
them
by
the
paine
or
just
feare
of
torture
.
Which
meere
confession
of
the
parties
,
without
other
Indicium
or
proof
,
is
no
sufficient
ground
to
condemne
any
by
the
Law
of
the
Low
Countryes
.
Secondly
,
it
is
a
Requisite
of
their
Law
,
that
the
prisoners
subscribe
their
confessions
being
free
of
bonds
and
irons
.
Now
neither
is
there
any
mention
in
all
the
Acts
of
any
such
free
confession
,
and
all
our
people
that
escaped
are
ready
to
confirme
vpon
their
oathes
,
that
from
the
first
apprehension
vntill
the
houre
of
going
to
the
execution
,
there
was
no
intermission
of
the
fetters
.
Thirdly
,
the
same
confessions
are
full
of
contrarieties
:
as
one
while
that
the
plott
should
be
executed
when
some
English
ship
or
shippes
should
be
there
arriued
,
the
people
whereof
should
assist
in
the
exployt
:
another
while
,
that
when
the
Castle
was
taken
,
then
Maister
Towerson
would
first
send
to
Iaccatra
for
assistance
.
Likewise
,
one
while
that
it
should
be
attempted
when
the
Dutch
Gouernor
was
abroad
vpon
some
enterprize
:
another
while
that
the
Gouernor
himselfe
should
be
killed
in
the
Castle
.
Further
,
one
while
that
all
the
Iapons
were
wonne
to
the
plotte
before
Maister
Towerson
opened
it
to
the
English
,
and
consulted
with
them
;
another
while
,
that
he
sent
out
some
of
the
English
eight
dayes
after
that
consultation
,
then
to
winne
the
Iapons
.
Also
one
while
that
the
Iapons
had
consulted
diuers
times
with
Maister
Towerson
himselfe
in
the
English
house
;
another
while
that
they
neuer
treated
with
Master
Towerson
himselfe
,
but
with
others
in
his
name
;
with
other
like
contradictions
,
differences
,
and
incertainties
.
Further
,
the
place
,
persons
and
time
were
specified
to
Abel
Price
in
his
examination
,
contrary
to
the
Law
.
In
the
last
place
the
thing
confessed
to
be
plotted
,
was
not
onely
impossible
to
be
atchieued
by
such
meanes
and
manner
of
execution
as
was
confessed
:
but
as
impossible
also
to
come
into
the
imagination
of
any
man
in
his
witts
:
as
is
already
sufficiently
shewed
in
the
answere
to
the
Dutch
Relation
.
By
which
premisses
appeareth
,
that
as
well
through
defect
of
other
proofe
,
besides
the
meere
confessions
of
the
prisoners
,
and
that
in
Irons
;
as
in
respect
of
the
incertaintie
,
inconstancy
,
and
contrarietie
of
the
same
confessions
,
the
specification
and
leading
examinations
,
together
with
the
impossibilitie
of
the
truth
of
the
thing
confessed
,
there
is
in
these
Acts
no
lawful
ground
for
the
sentence
of
condemnation
.
The
third
generall
ground
that
is
laid
in
this
Remonstrance
is
,
that
the
Acts
were
signed
by
the
prisoners
themselues
,
and
by
the
Councell
of
Amboyna
,
which
is
a
Court
or
Colledge
of
Iudges
admitted
and
sworne
:
and
therefore
no
proofes
,
much
lesse
any
vaine
and
friuolous
suspitions
may
be
admitted
to
the
contrary
.
As
for
the
subscription
of
the
Prisoners
to
their
confessions
;
of
what
value
that
is
without
other
Indicia
and
proofes
hath
beene
already
declared
.
Now
that
no
proofes
may
be
admitted
against
sworne
Iudges
,
is
a
strange
Maxime
:
which
being
granted
must
needs
inferre
either
that
such
Iudges
cannot
erre
and
judge
vniustly
;
or
else
that
how
euer
they
carry
themselues
,
their
doings
must
not
be
examined
,
much
lesse
punished
.
So
that
then
the
Law
hath
in
vaine
prouided
punishment
for
a
Iudge
in
case
of
wrong
imprisonment
,
causlesse
vnorderly
torture
,
and
of
vniust
absoluing
or
condemning
,
and
the
like
;
for
which
there
are
so
many
and
so
diligent
prouisions
.
It
may
be
thought
indeed
,
that
vnder
this
confidence
this
whole
Processe
was
begun
and
followed
;
as
the
safest
and
fairest
way
to
be
ridd
of
the
English
,
without
such
reckoning
as
was
formerly
made
for
the
courses
of
open
hostilitie
.
But
if
this
way
goe
for
currant
,
though
towards
a
forraigne
Nation
:
how
comes
it
that
by
the
Law
and
custome
of
Nations
,
so
many
Reprizalles
and
warres
haue
been
made
for
iniustice
done
by
the
Iudges
of
one
Nation
to
the
people
of
another
,
when
none
other
redresse
could
be
obtained
,
yea
and
many
times
in
such
foule
causes
as
this
,
without
any
demand
of
redresse
?
These
grounds
aforesaid
,
being
thus
laid
,
this
Remonstrance
proceedeth
to
take
notice
of
two
seuerall
Discourses
spread
as
well
in
England
as
in
the
Lowe
Countryes
against
the
Dutch
cause
of
Amboyna
:
the
first
,
a
briefe
Collection
of
the
effect
of
certaine
Letters
written
by
the
English
Factors
at
Iaccatra
,
dated
the
19.
of
Iune
1623.
The
second
,
a
more
ample
Writing
,
entituled
,
A
true
Relation
of
the
cruell
and
barbarous
Tortures
and
Execution
of
the
English
at
Amboyna
by
the
Dutch
there
.
The
former
of
these
this
Remonstrance
chargeth
with
passion
and
great
vehemency
;
because
it
doth
by
way
of
preiudice
,
enstile
the
Processe
of
Amboyna
,
an
vniust
and
barbarous
murder
:
and
aggrauateth
the
fashion
and
manner
of
the
Tortures
.
So
it
vouchsafeth
this
none
other
answere
;
but
this
note
of
passion
;
and
that
it
falsely
nameth
the
Iapons
executed
to
be
the
seruants
of
the
English
;
Whereas
in
truth
they
were
the
seruants
of
the
Dutch
at
Amboyna
.
What
or
whose
this
Discourse
thus
excepted
against
and
thus
answered
is
;
the
English
Company
knowes
not
.
Yet
they
beleeue
not
that
any
of
the
English
partie
,
would
(
except
it
were
by
a
slip
of
the
penne
)
call
these
Iapons
,
seruants
of
the
English
:
the
same
being
contrary
to
all
the
reports
and
aduertisements
that
came
from
Amboyna
and
Iaccatra
;
it
is
likewise
to
be
presumed
,
that
if
in
that
Writing
there
had
beene
any
thing
els
,
which
they
could
haue
answered
,
they
would
not
haue
dismissed
it
as
they
doe
.
For
,
as
for
the
terming
the
execution
,
An
vniust
and
barbarous
murder
;
that
were
no
more
cause
to
reiect
the
Discourse
without
further
answere
;
then
the
like
stile
giuen
it
in
the
very
title
of
the
second
and
larger
Writing
,
which
neuerthelesse
hath
obtained
a
more
particular
answere
.
Hauing
giuen
the
first
Writing
this
quicke
dispatch
,
the
Remonstrance
proceedeth
to
the
answere
of
the
Relation
set
out
by
the
English
East
India
Company
;
and
in
the
first
place
chargeth
it
with
an
impertinent
description
(
in
the
very
introduction
)
of
the
Castle
of
Amboyna
,
and
the
Dutch
Garrisons
and
Forces
there
;
to
the
end
(
saith
this
Remonstrance
)
to
shew
that
there
was
no
likelihood
nor
probability
that
the
English
there
would
vndertake
the
surprize
of
the
Castle
;
being
a
thing
impossible
to
be
done
:
as
if
(
saith
the
Remonstrance
)
the
want
of
vnderstanding
in
the
Conspirators
,
and
the
foolish
ground
of
their
proiect
(
all
other
accusations
ceasing
)
should
haue
excused
them
from
punishment
:
the
contrary
whereof
is
euery
where
obserued
.
Here
in
the
very
first
steppe
of
the
Answere
,
the
end
of
the
English
Company
in
setting
out
the
impossibilitie
of
the
fact
,
is
either
mistaken
or
traduced
.
For
if
the
conspiracy
had
beene
sufficiently
prooued
according
to
the
direction
euen
of
the
Lawes
by
which
the
Dutch
are
gouerned
;
then
the
probabilitie
or
possibilitie
of
the
fact
had
neuer
beene
alledged
.
For
in
such
case
it
is
true
,
that
the
foolishnesse
of
the
plott
excuseth
no
man
.
But
when
there
is
no
other
proofe
or
euidence
,
but
the
meere
confession
of
the
prisoner
,
(
which
is
the
present
case
)
then
the
very
text
of
the
Law
of
treason
,
enioyneth
the
Iudge
to
consider
the
person
of
the
prisoner
(
which
is
the
present
case
)
then
the
very
text
of
the
Law
of
Treason
,
enioyneth
the
Iudge
to
consider
the
person
of
the
prisoner
;
whether
he
be
able
to
execute
such
a
thing
as
he
is
accused
of
,
whether
he
euer
practised
the
like
before
;
what
he
meant
;
and
whether
he
were
in
his
wits
of
no
;
and
such
like
;
For
without
these
considerations
the
slippery
confession
of
the
tongue
ought
not
to
be
the
ground
of
the
punishment
.
This
is
their
Law
,
according
to
which
if
they
had
proceeded
,
the
English
had
neuer
needed
to
alledge
these
impossibilities
;
which
the
Iudges
themselues
ought
to
haue
considered
.
But
not
hauing
done
it
,
they
haue
made
themselues
guiltie
of
vniust
Iudgement
;
which
to
prooue
,
the
impossibilitie
of
the
fact
is
both
pertinent
and
necessary
.
But
the
better
to
inforce
the
former
answere
,
the
Remonstrance
saith
,
that
this
presumption
of
the
impossibilitie
of
the
fact
ought
not
to
be
considered
,
against
a
veritie
altogether
notorious
and
prooued
,
against
the
confessions
of
the
prisoners
themselues
,
and
against
the
conscience
&
testimony
of
so
many
men
of
worth
and
credit
,
that
managed
this
affayre
,
and
against
a
Court
or
Colledge
of
Iudges
,
&c.
in
publique
Office
and
sworne
.
All
this
is
but
a
Rhetoricall
flourish
,
and
being
examined
,
will
vanish
into
the
ayre
as
a
meere
sound
.
For
first
for
the
notoriousnesse
of
the
pretended
conspiracie
;
although
now
ex
post
facto
,
they
cry
it
out
for
notorious
;
yet
at
the
time
when
the
notorietie
should
haue
beene
considered
,
which
was
before
the
apprehension
,
torturing
,
and
execution
of
our
people
;
there
was
not
the
least
breath
of
such
a
fame
.
It
is
now
too
late
to
alledge
a
notorietie
,
that
themselues
haue
made
who
alledge
it
.
As
for
the
proofes
here
mentioned
;
Why
haue
they
not
at
any
time
specified
them
?
If
there
be
none
other
proofes
besides
the
meere
confessions
(
as
other
the
Acts
doe
not
so
much
as
mention
)
why
then
are
proofes
and
confessions
here
distinctly
acumulated
;
as
if
there
were
any
other
proofes
besides
the
said
confessions
?
As
for
the
conscience
and
testimony
of
those
that
managed
the
Processe
,
being
a
publique
and
sworne
Colledge
of
Iudges
;
it
is
not
at
all
to
be
reckoned
of
;
when
it
appeareth
that
they
haue
not
proceeded
according
to
the
Law
.
And
if
this
plea
might
be
admitted
,
no
Iudge
should
euer
be
found
guiltie
of
Iniustice
.
Further
,
if
the
very
qualitie
of
the
Iudges
be
considered
,
it
will
rather
hurt
then
helpe
them
:
there
were
none
amongst
them
that
had
any
ordinary
knowledge
in
the
Law
,
whereby
they
vndertake
to
judge
causes
:
besides
their
young
yeares
and
wicked
liues
:
which
if
it
were
pertinent
to
the
cause
in
question
,
might
be
set
forth
by
many
speciall
instances
.
But
if
they
were
neuer
so
learned
,
experienced
,
or
well
famed
;
yet
that
would
not
auayle
when
they
haue
proceeded
against
the
prescript
of
their
owne
Law
(
to
say
nothing
here
of
the
treatie
)
as
they
are
sufficiently
prooued
to
haue
done
.
But
this
Remonstrance
not
trusting
to
this
Answere
,
in
slighting
the
improbability
and
impossibility
of
the
fact
,
as
not
worth
the
considering
;
yet
for
all
that
,
in
the
next
place
laboureth
and
sweateth
to
make
the
fact
seeme
probable
and
possible
,
the
contrary
whereof
in
vs
that
hold
the
contrary
part
,
it
reiecteth
as
impertinent
;
Is
it
impertinent
for
vs
to
shew
the
improbabilitie
and
impossibilitie
of
the
fact
;
and
yet
pertinent
for
them
to
shew
the
contrary
probabilitie
and
possibilitie
?
But
let
vs
see
and
consider
their
presumptions
.
First
(
they
say
)
they
haue
already
proued
,
that
the
English
for
a
diuersion
of
the
Dutch
Forces
in
the
Castle
,
had
inuited
and
induced
all
the
Ternatans
,
Seranians
,
and
neighbouring
Indians
to
rebell
,
and
doe
violence
to
the
Dutch
,
that
when
the
Dutch
Gouernour
should
haue
drawne
the
maine
of
his
Forces
of
men
and
shipping
that
way
,
then
the
English
might
with
ease
take
the
Castle
so
emptied
and
denuded
of
her
Forces
.
How
vaine
this
point
is
,
is
already
manifested
in
the
Answere
to
the
Dutch
Relation
.
And
as
for
the
proofes
here
mentioned
;
there
is
in
all
the
Acts
not
so
much
as
any
offer
made
of
any
proofe
of
this
point
.
But
it
is
worthy
againe
to
be
noted
,
that
here
the
deuice
and
Scene
is
changed
.
For
where
in
the
Dutch
Relation
it
is
said
,
(
though
no
where
prooued
)
that
the
Ternatans
of
Loho
should
haue
come
with
their
Curricurryes
to
assist
Maister
Towerson
at
Amboyna
,
and
that
the
Dutch
Gouernour
must
haue
beene
killed
there
in
the
Castle
by
the
Iapons
;
now
he
must
be
gone
with
all
his
Forces
out
of
the
Island
to
tame
those
Ternatans
and
the
rest
of
the
Seranians
&
neighbouring
Indians
:
that
the
English
might
surprize
the
Castle
in
their
absence
.
As
for
the
shippes
of
the
Dutch
,
which
now
also
must
haue
beene
absent
:
it
is
well
knowne
,
that
the
seruice
here
pretended
would
neither
need
,
nor
could
haue
vse
of
their
great
shippes
,
but
onely
of
Currycurries
and
small
Vessels
,
which
also
the
Dutch
after
vsed
,
leauing
their
great
shipping
in
the
roade
by
the
Castle
.
The
strength
of
the
Dutch
thus
extenuated
,
in
the
next
place
the
Remonstrance
pursuing
the
argument
of
possibilitie
,
amplifieth
the
Forces
of
the
English
.
And
first
it
deliuereth
,
that
the
English
had
a
great
number
of
slaues
in
their
Factories
,
which
great
number
is
already
truely
confessed
in
the
answere
to
the
Dutch
Relation
,
to
be
iust
sixe
and
all
boyes
.
Next
it
is
added
,
that
they
would
also
haue
stayed
their
actuall
attempt
of
the
Castle
,
vntill
some
English
shippes
were
arriued
there
;
which
point
is
also
at
large
refuted
in
the
said
Answere
.
Thirdly
,
here
is
alledged
,
that
Maister
Towerson
had
giuen
charge
vnto
his
other
English
,
to
haue
daily
laboured
and
wonne
by
vnder-hand
practize
,
other
subiects
of
the
Dutch
,
thereby
to
augment
their
owne
partie
,
and
to
weaken
the
strength
of
the
Dutch.
Of
which
point
,
as
there
was
no
probabilitie
;
so
in
all
the
Acts
,
there
is
no
shadow
of
proofe
thereof
made
,
or
so
much
as
endeuoured
:
how
euer
now
the
desperate
cause
requireth
the
helpe
of
so
grosse
a
fiction
.
Fourthly
(
which
is
vaunted
for
the
principall
argument
)
it
is
here
seriously
obserued
;
that
the
Castle
should
haue
beene
surprized
by
treason
and
not
by
siege
;
and
so
like
enough
the
English
(
though
but
few
)
might
by
this
meanes
doe
wonders
.
A
very
poore
note
;
as
if
the
English
Relation
had
cited
impossibilities
by
way
of
siege
,
and
not
as
well
by
way
of
trechery
.
But
besides
that
,
this
argument
beggeth
the
maine
question
;
to
wit
,
that
there
was
indeed
such
a
treason
:
was
there
euer
any
such
treason
or
stratagem
practized
in
any
Countrey
,
to
surprize
a
Castle
by
a
small
force
;
without
a
competency
of
seconds
to
make
good
and
hold
that
which
was
so
entred
and
possessed
?
Yet
this
argument
is
further
enforced
,
not
onely
by
the
opportunitie
that
the
Iapons
had
to
betray
the
Castle
;
themselues
seruing
as
Souldiers
therein
;
but
also
by
the
extraordinary
valour
ane
hardinesse
of
that
Nation
,
set
forth
by
two
seuerall
Apochriphal
Legends
of
strange
feats
of
other
Iapons
;
without
specifying
of
the
number
of
them
that
performed
these
wonders
,
but
leauing
a
blanke
to
helpe
the
tale
at
their
pleasure
.
But
let
it
be
granted
that
the
Iapons
are
all
Gyants
,
and
had
opportunity
being
trusted
:
yet
is
it
likely
,
that
the
Dutch
Gouernour
in
his
expedition
here
supposed
against
the
Rebells
of
Seran
and
the
other
Indians
,
would
haue
left
such
Worthies
idle
in
their
Castle
at
home
,
and
not
haue
taken
them
with
them
,
according
to
their
Custome
?
Would
they
haue
withdrawne
their
Dutch
,
and
trusted
such
strangers
with
their
Castle
,
being
yet
so
suspitious
of
them
,
that
they
would
torture
them
for
asking
an
ordinary
harmelesse
question
?
O
miserable
presumptions
!
And
yet
here
we
haue
all
the
particulars
that
are
alledged
,
or
could
be
inuented
.
In
the
next
place
,
the
Remonstrants
returne
to
the
answere
of
the
English
Relation
:
finding
themselues
grieued
,
that
their
Councell
of
Amboyna
is
charged
to
haue
forged
this
crime
against
the
English
,
thereby
to
be
ridd
of
their
company
,
and
so
to
enioy
the
trade
there
alone
.
For
their
purgation
wherein
,
here
are
diuers
arguments
alledged
.
As
first
,
that
if
they
had
not
liked
their
company
there
,
it
had
beene
easier
and
fairer
to
haue
kept
them
out
,
when
they
were
out
,
then
to
haue
so
cast
them
out
after
their
admission
of
them
by
the
Treatie
,
Ann.
1619.
And
God
forbid
(
saith
the
Remonstrance
,
)
that
any
should
vse
such
wicked
and
bloudy
meanes
for
so
poore
an
end
,
as
onely
to
driue
the
English
out
of
Amboyna
.
It
is
true
ordinarily
;
Turpius
●ijcitur
&c.
It
is
more
discurtesie
to
turne
out
a
guest
,
then
at
first
to
deny
him
entertainment
.
But
sometimes
there
may
be
such
a
necessitie
,
as
that
a
man
must
needs
,
for
avoyding
of
a
greater
inconuenience
,
entertaine
the
guest
,
whom
he
is
as
glad
to
be
ridd
of
,
as
he
was
vnwilling
to
receiue
him
.
And
sometimes
a
man
entertaineth
a
guest
in
hope
of
some
benefit
to
be
made
by
him
;
whereof
afterwards
being
frustrate
,
he
will
gladly
be
quit
of
his
guest
as
soone
as
he
findeth
himselfe
defeated
of
his
hoped
ends
.
Both
these
considerations
haue
had
their
place
in
this
entertaining
of
the
English
by
the
Dutch
at
Amboyna
and
other
places
.
For
the
former
,
all
that
are
acquainted
with
the
occasion
,
and
the
passages
of
the
Treatie
of
the
yeare
1619.
know
very
well
,
that
there
was
then
none
other
or
better
way
or
meane
for
the
Hollanders
East
India
Company
to
giue
satisfaction
to
the
Kings
Maiesty
for
the
bloud
of
many
of
his
people
,
and
the
inualuable
damage
done
vnto
the
English
Company
by
the
said
Hollanders
vniust
taking
of
their
shippes
and
goods
onely
in
respect
of
their
lawfull
trade
into
the
Islands
of
the
Moluccoes
and
Banda
;
but
the
accommodation
of
the
whole
matter
,
by
admitting
of
the
English
East
India
Company
into
the
participation
of
the
trade
in
those
Islands
,
and
this
of
Amboyna
.
Which
being
yeelded
vnto
with
great
difficultie
;
yet
the
said
Dutch
with
might
and
maine
reserued
the
Forts
which
they
were
then
possessed
of
,
in
their
owne
hands
:
thereby
still
retaining
the
power
and
opportunitie
to
master
the
English
,
and
weary
them
of
their
lodging
at
their
pleasure
.
In
the
next
place
,
it
seemeth
by
their
after-course
that
hauing
so
assured
themselues
of
the
Forts
and
Mastring
power
,
they
hoped
to
make
benefit
by
this
partnership
;
by
the
ordering
of
their
Accompts
in
such
manner
,
as
that
the
English
should
pay
their
part
of
the
charge
as
well
of
the
Garrisons
as
of
their
new
buildings
,
and
of
the
warres
which
they
vndertooke
for
enlarging
the
Dutches
Dominion
,
and
all
this
in
ready
money
,
whilest
the
Dutch
furnished
their
owne
share
in
commodities
,
and
at
what
prizes
they
list
.
Now
when
the
Dutch
in
the
Indies
saw
,
that
the
English
there
would
not
suffer
themselues
to
be
thus
bridled
and
sadled
;
but
made
their
protests
and
complaints
against
this
dealing
:
they
sought
meanes
to
be
quit
of
them
.
And
finding
that
the
blunt
way
of
fact
would
not
be
well
taken
,
but
giue
a
new
offence
to
the
King
,
(
especially
after
the
Treaty
to
the
contrary
)
they
deuise
this
new
meane
to
thrust
out
their
vnwelcome
guests
,
with
lesse
bloudshed
then
they
before
had
kept
them
out
with
,
and
with
lesse
feare
of
accompting
for
the
same
,
being
done
vnder
the
faire
colour
of
Iustice
;
which
point
being
clearely
enough
touched
in
the
very
Introduction
of
the
English
Relation
,
this
Remonstrance
professing
an
answere
to
the
whole
,
yet
passeth
ouer
this
with
a
dry
foote
,
and
deepe
silence
:
yea
,
it
minceth
the
very
matter
whereof
it
seemes
to
take
notice
,
making
the
charge
against
them
to
be
onely
the
driuing
of
the
English
out
of
Amboyna
,
where
the
English
Relation
chargeth
them
to
haue
contriued
and
executed
this
bloudy
businesse
,
with
intention
to
driue
them
(
the
English
)
out
of
the
Moluccoes
and
Banda
also
,
as
well
as
out
of
Amboyna
.
Which
end
and
drift
of
the
worke
how
euer
it
is
slighted
hereby
the
Remonstrants
,
yet
it
appeareth
of
what
value
it
is
in
their
secret
estimation
,
by
that
which
they
haue
formerly
done
to
keepe
the
English
from
the
trade
of
those
Islands
.
Yet
further
to
cleare
themselues
of
this
end
and
designe
,
they
alledge
that
the
Netherlands
East
India
Company
here
in
Europe
neuer
gaue
any
Commission
to
their
Officers
at
Amboyna
,
to
put
such
a
thing
as
this
in
practise
,
nor
could
haue
any
benefit
thereby
,
but
rather
losse
:
and
the
Officers
themselues
were
too
honest
and
wise
to
haue
executed
such
a
Commission
:
especially
since
themselues
should
haue
no
profit
by
it
,
but
incurre
great
danger
of
giuing
accompt
for
the
same
.
For
the
point
of
Commission
,
the
English
Companie
doth
not
charge
the
Dutch
Company
,
nor
the
whole
Colledge
of
Directors
,
with
any
such
proiect
or
direction
.
Neither
doe
they
thinke
that
any
one
amongst
them
would
by
his
priuate
aduice
incite
the
Gouernor
of
Amboyna
to
this
or
the
like
fact
in
particular
.
But
they
cannot
tell
whether
some
one
or
few
amongst
them
of
speciall
place
and
authoritie
;
and
of
like
respect
with
their
Officers
in
the
Indies
,
may
not
vpon
some
discontent
or
dislike
of
the
Treatie
&
the
effects
▪
thereof
,
haue
giuen
aduice
to
the
principall
Officers
of
the
Dutch
in
the
Indies
,
to
lay
hands
and
make
vse
of
any
colourable
occasion
,
to
weary
the
English
of
the
trade
established
by
the
Treatie
;
and
so
the
Gouernor
of
Amboyna
may
haue
fallen
vpon
this
particular
out
of
such
generall
grounds
of
aduice
.
Which
suspition
of
the
English
Company
,
ariseth
not
onely
from
the
earnest
and
strayned
defence
and
iustification
which
they
now
obserue
to
be
made
of
this
execrable
fact
;
but
also
from
a
passage
that
fell
out
here
in
London
immediately
after
the
Treatie
An.
1619.
which
now
this
dispute
calleth
to
their
remembrance
.
And
here
in
they
report
themselues
to
the
memorie
and
conscience
of
those
of
the
Dutch
directors
,
that
were
then
employed
in
the
forming
of
an
explanation
of
the
Articles
of
the
Treatie
,
intituled
;
The
Order
of
Execution
,
&c.
whether
one
of
them
appearing
highly
discontented
,
for
that
the
English
would
not
condescend
to
a
proposition
of
theirs
,
about
the
order
of
selling
out
the
Spices
here
in
Europe
,
did
not
then
in
a
vehement
manner
threaten
the
English
(
that
dealt
with
them
about
that
point
)
that
they
should
repent
them
of
their
dissent
herein
:
which
the
English
not
vnderstanding
by
all
the
disputes
,
how
it
could
come
to
passe
in
the
course
of
trade
,
if
the
treatie
were
obserued
,
still
persisted
in
their
former
resolution
.
Whereupon
the
said
partie
with
the
rest
of
the
Dutch
desired
that
it
might
be
noted
in
the
Iournall
of
the
Conference
;
that
they
had
forewarned
them
,
that
there
would
a
great
inconuenience
follow
by
reason
of
this
dissent
of
the
English
,
which
was
noted
in
the
same
Iournall
accordingly
.
What
this
carriage
might
portend
,
or
what
directions
might
be
giuen
in
consequence
of
this
discontent
,
the
English
Company
leaue
to
be
iudged
by
others
:
hauing
themselues
neuer
since
in
the
course
of
their
sale
of
the
Spices
,
without
obseruation
of
the
order
(
then
desired
by
the
Dutch
)
found
any
inconuenience
but
rather
aduantage
;
As
for
the
benefit
of
the
Dutch
by
driuing
the
English
from
the
trade
of
the
Moluccoes
,
Banda
,
and
Amboyna
,
it
may
be
esteemed
(
as
is
before
noted
)
by
the
courses
that
the
Dutch
formerly
tooke
to
keepe
the
English
out
of
that
trade
.
And
for
their
contrary
benefit
here
also
pretended
by
holding
the
English
in
the
communion
of
that
trade
:
It
is
true
,
that
as
long
as
the
English
would
pay
readie
money
,
the
Dutch
paying
in
wares
,
would
beare
their
share
of
the
charge
of
Fortifications
and
Conquests
,
whereof
the
benefit
accrued
wholly
to
the
Dutch
,
as
long
as
they
would
ioyne
with
the
Dutch
to
finde
the
Enemy
worke
in
one
place
,
while
the
Dutch
might
thereby
the
easier
winne
for
themselues
onely
in
another
place
:
so
long
the
Dutch
might
easily
make
benefit
of
their
partnership
,
and
abide
their
sharing
with
them
for
one
third
part
of
that
trade
.
But
when
the
English
shewed
themselues
sensible
of
this
Leonine
Societie
,
and
protested
against
it
,
and
refused
to
pursue
the
Action
of
defence
in
such
a
course
:
Then
it
was
time
to
seeke
out
an
occasion
to
be
vtterly
freed
from
their
partnership
,
now
proouing
otherwise
then
was
before
hoped
.
As
touching
the
honestie
of
their
Officers
at
Amboyna
here
alledged
,
there
hath
been
enough
said
alreadie
.
And
for
their
benefit
also
by
thus
ridding
themselues
of
the
English
,
who
knoweth
not
what
benefit
may
be
expected
by
being
an
Instrument
of
so
great
profit
,
atchieuing
it
by
such
a
conueyance
,
wherin
who
euer
giueth
Commission
,
is
by
ioynt
guilt
obliged
to
gratifie
and
promote
his
instrument
euen
for
his
owne
safetie
?
Besides
,
their
Officers
had
their
owne
priuate
quarrells
against
the
English
for
their
daily
complaints
against
their
riotous
liuing
,
and
the
great
expence
thereof
,
deriued
in
the
greatest
part
vpon
the
English
by
the
arts
aboue-mentioned
.
Especially
the
Gouernour
himselfe
had
a
maine
griefe
,
that
the
English
had
often
complained
to
the
Councell
of
Defence
at
Iaccatra
,
of
the
extraordinary
&
excessiue
charge
of
his
Table
and
other
expences
:
which
by
the
Iournal
of
the
consultations
of
the
said
Councell
appeareth
to
haue
bin
a
matter
of
much
dispute
there
,
and
was
at
last
promised
by
the
Dutch
partie
to
be
reformed
.
Another
quarrell
also
the
same
Gouernour
had
against
the
English
at
Amboyna
,
about
a
Dutch-man
that
was
executed
for
killing
of
an
Englishman
;
Which
Dutch-man
when
the
Gouernour
could
not
fairely
saue
(
the
fact
being
too
foule
and
manifest
to
beare
it
)
he
was
so
offended
with
the
English
prosecution
of
the
matter
,
that
he
solemnly
vowed
,
if
euer
any
of
the
English
came
within
his
compasse
,
such
should
repent
that
none
of
them
had
interceded
for
the
life
of
the
said
Dutch-man
.
Lastly
,
it
must
be
remembred
,
that
at
the
time
of
this
forged
crime
,
the
newes
of
the
Match
with
Spaine
was
very
rife
and
hott
at
Amboyna
;
where
with
how
all
the
Dutch
there
were
enraged
,
and
what
insolent
speeches
they
vsed
of
the
Kings
Maiestie
,
is
well
enough
knowne
;
though
thought
vnmeete
to
be
here
recited
.
Hauing
thus
laboured
to
cleare
the
finall
cause
of
this
Processe
,
the
Remonstrants
returne
to
charge
the
English
(
that
are
executed
)
with
other
arguments
of
their
pretended
treason
.
As
(
say
they
)
if
it
were
not
a
true
treason
,
why
came
the
Iapon
(
that
was
first
apprehended
vpon
the
walles
)
and
made
such
curious
inquisition
about
the
setting
of
the
Watch
,
and
of
the
Dutch
Forces
in
the
Castle
?
How
came
it
that
being
examined
,
he
forthwith
spake
so
pertinently
of
this
treason
?
If
he
were
suborned
by
the
Dutch
,
why
then
did
they
execute
him
?
Why
did
he
accuse
his
owne
Countrymen
as
well
as
the
English
?
Why
should
the
Dutch
thus
vse
the
Iapons
,
whom
they
had
no
cause
otherwise
to
hate
?
The
first
of
these
questions
is
already
answered
before
,
to
wit
,
that
the
Iapon
did
nothing
herein
,
but
what
any
Souldier
may
lawfully
,
and
is
wont
to
doe
,
without
blame
or
iust
suspition
.
It
importeth
euery
Souldier
to
know
the
strength
of
the
place
where
he
serueth
,
and
the
order
and
course
of
the
seruice
,
as
is
said
in
the
answere
to
the
Dutch
Relation
.
The
second
question
would
be
as
easily
answered
,
if
it
had
seemed
good
to
those
that
kept
the
Acts
,
to
haue
kept
faithfull
Record
in
them
of
the
Interrogatories
ministred
to
this
Iapon
in
his
tortures
.
But
the
English
Relation
in
the
Examinations
of
Collins
,
Sherrock
,
and
Beamont
,
hath
discouered
the
Art
vsed
in
all
the
rest
;
to
wit
,
the
leading
Interrogatories
,
or
rather
Directories
,
specifying
to
the
prisoner
what
he
might
say
to
come
quitt
of
the
torture
:
As
for
the
suborning
of
this
Iapon
by
the
Dutch
here
mentioned
in
the
third
question
;
The
English
easily
grant
that
hee
was
not
suborned
,
but
(
which
is
worse
)
he
was
tortured
to
make
him
accuse
both
the
English
and
his
owne
Countrymen
)
the
Iapons
;
which
also
answereth
the
fourth
question
of
this
Rhetoricall
Dialogisme
.
And
for
the
fift
and
last
question
,
why
the
Dutch
should
also
practise
the
Iapons
destruction
:
it
is
easily
conceiued
,
that
els
the
English
should
haue
seemed
to
haue
had
no
Complices
,
nor
hope
of
assistance
of
other
Nations
,
which
would
haue
made
their
crime
appeare
more
impossible
to
be
a
true
charge
then
now
it
doth
;
although
(
as
now
it
is
)
it
is
vtterly
voyde
of
all
probabilitie
and
possibilitie
.
And
is
it
any
wonder
they
would
sacrifice
the
bloud
of
tenne
Infidells
for
that
end
,
for
which
they
spared
not
tenne
Christians
,
and
those
of
that
Nation
which
mostagreeth
with
themselues
in
Religion
,
and
to
whom
they
are
of
all
other
Nations
most
beholden
?
In
the
next
place
,
the
Remonstrance
proceedeth
to
answere
a
circumstance
related
by
the
English
,
that
the
Iapons
being
examined
three
or
foure
dayes
before
them
,
they
yet
fled
not
:
whereby
they
shewed
their
innocency
.
To
the
consequence
of
which
argument
the
Remonstrance
first
answereth
,
that
the
English
did
this
to
auoyde
great
suspition
,
being
sure
enough
they
could
not
fly
:
the
Gouernour
had
(
euen
to
their
knowledge
)
taken
such
order
to
stop
all
passages
,
as
well
of
all
other
Merchants
that
then
frequented
Amboyna
as
of
the
English
.
This
is
a
meere
fiction
:
for
the
Curricurries
and
other
Vessells
departed
as
freely
from
Amboyna
while
the
Iapons
were
in
examination
,
as
at
any
time
before
.
And
if
the
Gouernor
had
vsed
neuer
so
much
circumspection
herein
,
and
the
English
had
knowne
of
it
,
yet
how
could
so
many
guiltie
consciences
haue
contained
themselues
,
and
not
one
of
them
all
haue
attempted
to
flie
or
hide
or
disguise
himselfe
in
all
this
time
?
All
men
know
that
a
guiltie
conscience
prouoketh
men
to
attemptescapes
aboue
and
against
all
reason
.
And
therefore
the
Law
euer
enquireth
of
the
flight
or
shrinking
of
the
accused
as
a
speciall
indicium
of
their
guilt
.
Why
did
not
the
Dutch
then
in
their
examinations
question
and
sift
out
by
what
consultation
and
agreement
all
the
English
came
to
be
of
one
minde
,
to
shew
such
confidence
in
this
case
?
But
to
make
a
further
and
better
answere
to
this
argument
,
the
Remonstrance
chargeth
the
matter
of
it
with
vntruth
:
Saying
that
the
examination
of
the
Iapons
began
the
24.
of
Februarie
,
and
that
the
next
day
after
,
to
wit
,
the
25.
the
English
were
seized
;
So
that
here
was
but
one
dayes
respite
for
the
English
to
shift
for
themselues
.
This
impudence
is
very
strange
;
for
,
the
Acts
of
the
Processe
record
,
the
beginning
of
the
examination
of
the
Iapons
to
be
the
23.
of
Februarie
,
and
the
resolution
to
seize
the
English
to
be
the
26.
which
is
the
third
day
after
inclusiuè
.
It
is
well
wee
haue
a
copie
of
their
Acts
,
(
such
as
they
are
)
els
we
see
into
how
many
formes
this
Proteus
would
turne
,
to
auoyde
the
true
discouery
.
After
this
the
Remonstrants
with
the
like
modestie
note
another
vntruth
in
the
English
Relation
,
where
it
affirmeth
that
the
English
had
not
any
conuersation
with
the
Iapons
;
the
contrary
whereof
(
say
the
Remonstrants
)
appeareth
as
well
by
the
confessions
of
the
English
as
the
Iapons
,
and
particularly
by
Maister
Towersons
voluntary
confession
,
made
long
time
after
his
examination
.
What
credit
the
Acts
and
confessions
may
deserue
,
is
alreadie
shewed
:
and
the
very
persons
themselues
therein
assigned
to
this
conuersation
with
the
Iapons
,
had
no
language
to
serue
them
therein
.
And
for
Master
Towersons
voluntary
confession
pretended
to
be
made
so
many
dayes
after
his
examination
;
besides
the
foule
play
of
the
Dutch
vsed
in
alledging
it
so
,
alreadie
discouered
in
the
answer
of
the
Dutch
Relation
(
which
by
this
very
touch
appeareth
to
be
the
worke
of
the
same
Penne
that
wrote
this
Remonstrance
)
that
pretended
voluntary
confession
hath
not
one
word
or
mention
of
the
Iapons
in
it
:
And
yet
this
Remonstrance
(
hauing
thus
stoutly
prooued
this
point
)
triumpheth
ouer
the
English
Relation
;
saying
,
that
these
contrarieties
and
dissimulations
shew
that
the
same
marueylously
strayeth
and
wandreth
from
the
truth
;
and
that
the
contrary
thereof
in
all
points
may
be
taken
for
true
.
After
this
,
the
Remonstrance
commeth
to
the
examination
of
the
English
prisoners
,
set
downe
in
our
Relation
:
and
promiseth
that
the
particulars
thereof
shall
hereafter
in
time
be
refuted
,
and
prooued
vtterly
counterfe
it
in
the
most
substantiall
points
:
as
shall
likewise
that
which
is
there
related
of
the
tortures
.
But
why
haue
they
not
all
this
while
made
,
or
at
least
attempted
some
disproofe
hereof
?
Why
could
not
Maerschalcke
(
whom
they
haue
now
deposed
in
other
points
)
haue
said
something
to
these
;
being
himselfe
the
second
person
in
the
Councell
,
and
acquainted
with
all
that
passed
?
Well
,
since
they
be
prooued
here
by
sixe
Witnesses
,
let
them
yet
stand
for
true
,
vntill
this
promised
Counterproofe
arriue
.
But
for
the
point
of
torture
,
the
Remonstrance
answereth
in
the
Interim
,
that
if
the
case
lawfully
require
,
it
is
no
fault
in
the
Iudge
to
examine
vpon
the
torture
:
being
the
Custome
in
all
Europe
,
and
particularly
in
the
Low
Countryes
.
And
if
any
were
tortured
,
that
was
done
vpon
pregnant
and
waightie
Indicia
,
proofes
and
confessions
of
others
.
This
hath
beene
sufficiently
replyed
to
in
the
English
Answere
to
the
Dutch
Relation
,
where
it
is
prooued
,
first
that
the
English
were
not
lawfully
subiect
to
the
iurisdiction
of
the
Gouernour
of
Amboyna
,
and
therefore
vnlawfully
tortured
.
Secondly
,
that
the
kinde
of
torture
vsed
,
was
not
agreeable
to
the
Law
and
Custome
of
the
Low
Countryes
:
and
lastly
,
that
there
was
no
sufficient
Indicium
for
the
torturing
of
the
first
Iapon
,
nor
none
other
proofes
or
Indicia
against
the
English
,
but
the
forced
confessions
of
the
tortured
Iapons
;
which
ground
of
torture
is
prohibited
by
their
owne
Law
.
Yet
further
the
Remonstrants
fetch
an
argument
out
of
this
point
of
the
tortures
,
in
iustification
of
their
officers
fact
at
Amboyna
.
If
(
say
they
)
they
would
haue
drawne
confessions
out
of
the
English
by
tortures
;
why
did
not
they
torture
all
the
English
?
This
riddle
is
plainely
vnfolded
by
the
same
English
Relation
:
where
it
appeareth
,
that
after
they
had
tortured
,
Iohnson
,
Collins
,
and
Clarke
;
glad
was
that
Englishman
that
could
deuise
any
thing
to
confesse
,
to
please
the
Fiscall
,
and
auoyde
the
torture
.
Yea
,
Sherrock
prayed
to
God
to
assist
him
in
this
kinde
.
Others
asked
those
that
had
beene
formerly
examined
,
what
they
had
confessed
;
saying
,
they
would
doe
the
like
,
thereby
to
shunne
the
crueltie
of
the
torture
.
As
for
those
that
were
acquitted
(
as
hauing
confessed
nothing
)
the
Dutch
plot
could
not
reach
them
.
For
hauing
laide
the
consultation
of
this
pretended
conspiracie
at
Amboyna
,
where
none
of
these
foure
were
vpon
New-yeares
day
;
they
had
no
colour
to
torture
them
,
whom
their
owne
people
that
stood
by
,
knew
to
be
so
farre
absent
:
And
no
man
imagineth
that
all
the
Dutch
that
were
by
at
the
torture
,
were
priuie
to
the
intention
of
the
Gouernour
;
who
in
this
case
was
to
carry
himselfe
so
,
as
that
he
must
not
make
the
busines
so
grosse
,
that
all
that
stood
by
might
vnderstand
it
.
It
sufficed
him
that
he
caught
the
chiefe
of
the
English
there
,
and
such
a
number
by
whose
example
all
would
afterwards
abandon
the
fatall
places
.
Lastly
,
the
Remonstrance
gathereth
that
there
was
no
excesse
vsed
,
because
some
of
the
English
were
pardoned
;
to
none
other
end
(
forsooth
)
but
to
giue
testimony
of
their
whole
proceedings
.
This
indeed
is
a
point
wherein
the
Dutch
vsed
the
quintessence
of
their
skill
:
so
to
handle
the
matter
as
that
they
would
seeme
to
mixe
clemency
with
Iustice
;
to
make
their
Processe
to
passe
the
easier
and
fayrer
,
both
among
their
owne
people
there
,
and
after
when
it
should
come
into
Europe
.
But
he
that
will
but
a
little
consider
what
the
Dutch
Gouernours
end
and
ayme
was
,
will
finde
,
that
as
he
and
the
Fiscall
laboured
in
all
the
Processe
to
reach
Captaine
Towerson
the
chiefe
of
the
English
there
;
neuer
satisfying
themselues
with
any
confession
that
made
not
him
guiltie
(
as
appeareth
in
the
English
Relation
:
)
so
when
they
had
caught
him
,
and
so
many
other
of
the
chiefe
of
the
English
there
,
it
was
a
small
matter
for
them
to
spare
a
few
of
the
meaner
sort
:
being
assured
that
the
execution
of
the
rest
,
would
be
a
sufficient
warning
for
all
other
Englishmen
euer
after
to
keepe
their
distance
farre
enough
from
that
place
.
And
this
tooke
so
right
(
according
to
the
intention
)
that
all
the
English
as
well
at
the
Moluccoes
and
Banda
,
as
the
poore
remnant
at
Amboyna
forthwith
vpon
the
newes
of
this
Tragedy
,
quitted
their
Factories
in
all
those
Islands
:
choosing
rather
to
leaue
the
places
and
their
trade
there
,
then
their
liues
for
it
.
For
the
Dutch
had
spoken
loude
enough
,
and
plaine
enough
in
this
action
,
for
all
the
English
to
vnderstand
their
meaning
:
who
therefore
would
not
stay
till
the
chiefe
of
them
also
were
thus
cut
off
,
and
the
rest
dismissed
with
their
life
for
a
prey
,
and
for
an
argument
of
the
Dutch
Officers
clemencie
.
But
if
these
few
English
were
saued
to
this
end
,
in
the
Dutches
intention
,
to
giue
testimony
of
all
their
proceedings
,
as
here
is
alledged
:
Why
then
doe
not
the
Dutch
receiue
and
allow
of
their
testimony
?
For
these
all
with
one
month
accuse
the
Dutch
to
haue
proceeded
by
trechery
and
most
execrable
iniustice
in
this
whole
action
:
although
indeed
some
of
them
that
were
absolued
,
confesse
vpon
oath
,
that
they
conceiue
the
reason
and
end
of
the
Dutch
in
sparing
them
,
to
haue
beene
in
hope
that
for
that
fauour
they
would
haue
giuen
testimony
on
their
part
,
when
this
businesse
should
come
to
be
examined
here
in
Europe
:
if
yet
the
cause
should
euer
come
to
be
reuiewed
here
;
for
some
of
the
Dutch
at
Amboyna
declared
plainely
,
that
they
made
accompt
the
Spanish
Match
would
preuent
the
accompting
for
this
businesse
.
The
next
point
that
the
Remonstrants
note
in
the
English
Relation
of
the
examination
of
the
prisoners
,
is
the
description
of
the
tortures
of
Water
and
fire
:
which
(
they
say
)
is
finely
and
prolixly
set
forth
and
embelished
,
to
mooue
compassion
,
and
to
inueagle
the
Reader
,
to
swallow
the
rest
of
the
errors
and
vntruths
of
the
Relation
.
But
that
,
albeit
all
torture
is
in
it selfe
rough
and
harsh
;
especially
seemeth
so
to
the
English
,
because
none
is
vsed
in
England
,
but
in
cases
of
high
treason
,
yet
the
torture
of
Water
is
the
most
gentle
,
ciuill
,
and
safe
of
all
other
kindes
of
torture
:
onely
causing
an
oppression
and
anxietie
of
breathing
and
respiration
,
but
no
replenishing
and
swelling
of
the
dodie
,
as
the
English
Relation
setteth
it
out
,
&c.
Yea
that
all
that
the
said
Relation
deliuereth
touching
these
Examinations
,
is
but
a
bare
narration
onely
without
any
proofe
:
or
at
the
most
is
witnessed
but
by
a
very
few
persons
,
and
those
such
,
as
the
cause
concerneth
:
in
which
being
themselues
once
iudicially
conuicted
,
they
may
not
now
be
admitted
and
allowed
as
witnesses
against
the
Iudge
and
his
proceedings
,
against
a
Court
and
Councell
of
foureteene
Iudges
,
persons
well
knowne
to
be
of
worth
and
vertue
;
and
against
their
owne
confessions
legally
taken
,
and
confirmed
with
their
owne
subscriptions
.
For
reply
to
all
this
:
first
,
for
the
description
of
the
tortures
,
which
is
here
(
scoffingly
)
said
to
be
so
laboured
&
adorned
,
to
moue
compassion
,
&
make
an
easie
way
for
vntruthes
;
it
is
remitted
to
the
reader
to
peruse
&
iudg
it
.
It
will
be
found
as
voyd
of
this
art
of
painting
,
as
it
is
of
the
vntruths
which
the
Remonstrants
mention
,
but
specifie
not
,
least
they
should
be
cleared
,
as
other
pretended
vntruths
are
already
in
this
reply
.
The
cause
of
the
English
needed
no
such
helpes
.
The
truth
of
the
things
deliuered
in
the
whole
Relation
so
shineth
in
the
meere
Series
and
circumstances
of
the
fact
,
that
it
disdained
those
borrowed
colours
,
feathers
,
and
trash
,
wherwith
the
Remonstrants
haue
trimmed
vp
this
their
answere
.
But
it
is
a
signe
of
their
penury
of
matter
,
that
they
thus
carpe
at
the
style
of
the
English
Relation
.
As
for
the
gentlenesse
of
their
torture
of
Water
;
that
is
also
left
to
be
iudged
;
yea
euen
by
the
words
of
this
Remonstrance
,
that
acknowledgeth
it
to
be
an
Oppression
and
stopping
of
the
breath
:
then
which
what
striueth
more
with
the
very
life
of
a
man
,
or
more
forceth
the
noblest
and
tenderest
parts
?
It
is
no
maruaile
that
some
of
their
owne
Adventurers
tell
these
Directors
in
Print
,
that
they
can
cut
of
another
mans
eare
,
with
as
little
feeling
as
of
an
old
shoe
.
But
our
people
that
haue
tasted
of
this
Water-torture
of
Amboyna
,
and
haue
heard
those
that
suffred
both
there
make
the
comparison
,
say
,
that
this
is
more
terrible
&
insupportable
for
the
time
,
then
the
torture
of
fire
:
how
euer
the
wound
of
the
latter
resteth
longer
in
the
flesh
.
The
same
men
also
tell
vs
,
(
and
that
vpon
their
oath
)
that
it
is
not
onely
a
stiffling
and
oppression
of
the
breath
;
but
also
a
replenishing
of
the
body
till
it
be
swollen
and
stretcht
,
as
in
Clarks
examination
is
set
downe
:
contrary
to
that
,
these
Remonstrants
here
affirme
.
Yea
,
but
(
say
they
)
these
witnesses
are
but
a
very
few
,
and
the
same
also
parties
in
this
cause
,
and
ought
not
to
be
heard
against
a
Colledge
of
Iudges
,
honest
and
substantiall
men
,
nor
against
their
owne
former
confessions
.
That
they
are
so
few
,
wee
may
thanke
the
Dutch
that
left
vs
no
more
.
But
all
that
they
haue
spared
vs
,
agree
in
one
vnanimous
and
constant
testimony
.
Neither
can
there
in
this
case
be
any
other
proofe
required
.
What
?
Would
the
Remonstrants
haue
vs
prooue
these
things
by
the
testimony
of
the
Dutch
that
were
employed
in
this
Processe
,
and
are
themselues
guiltie
of
this
masqued
murther
?
Should
we
haue
brought
a
Certificate
hereof
vnder
the
seale
of
Amboyna
,
with
the
Gouernour
and
his
Councels
hands
to
it
?
What
other
proofe
is
the
nature
of
the
cause
capeable
of
,
but
such
as
wee
bring
?
And
whereas
the
Remonstrants
say
here
that
our
witnesses
are
parties
,
and
formerly
conuict
in
the
cause
;
they
seeme
to
forget
,
that
their
owne
Acts
shew
,
that
some
of
them
were
absolued
expressely
,
others
neuer
condemned
.
As
for
the
Credit
of
the
Colledge
of
Iudges
,
so
often
repeated
,
it
is
already
examined
in
the
beginning
of
this
Reply
,
as
also
in
the
answere
to
the
Dutch
Relation
.
Finally
,
for
the
Declarations
and
Writings
of
Master
Towerson
,
Coulson
,
Griggs
,
and
others
,
set
downe
in
the
English
Relation
,
these
Remonstrants
seeme
to
doubt
whether
any
such
be
extant
.
And
for
the
strange
signes
of
the
storine
,
the
sodaine
madnesse
and
death
of
Dunkyn
,
and
the
new
sicknesse
at
Amboyna
,
following
the
execution
of
the
English
,
which
they
tearme
pretended
miracles
;
they
say
,
that
the
truth
can
be
witnessed
by
those
that
were
present
and
about
them
at
the
execution
,
that
no
such
thing
happened
.
And
here
they
adde
,
that
the
English
stirre
heauen
&
earth
to
conceale
and
couer
this
detestable
fact
.
But
who
will
suppose
(
say
they
)
that
substantiall
people
,
(
men
of
approued
worth
and
vertue
)
would
shew
themselues
so
impious
and
inhumane
to
torture
and
execute
innocent
persons
?
Much
lesse
must
this
be
presumed
of
a
Court
of
Iudges
sworne
and
established
.
As
for
the
Writings
of
Maister
Towerson
,
Coulson
,
Griggs
,
and
others
,
mentioned
in
the
English
Relation
(
now
doubted
of
by
the
Remonstrants
)
wee
report
vs
vnto
the
Lords
of
his
Maiesties
priuie
Councell
,
that
haue
seene
them
,
and
to
the
friends
of
the
parties
that
know
their
seuerall
hands
;
and
lastly
,
to
the
same
Writings
themselues
still
extant
and
kept
to
be
shewed
vpon
any
occasion
.
As
for
the
signes
related
,
they
are
sworne
by
our
men
that
came
thence
,
and
further
to
be
prooued
by
Letters
written
,
from
some
that
then
serued
,
and
(
wee
suppose
)
doe
yet
serue
the
Dutch
at
Amboyna
,
if
they
be
not
since
dead
,
whereof
no
newes
is
yet
come
.
But
what
Witnesse
doe
the
Remonstrants
bring
,
that
those
things
so
set
downe
with
their
circumstances
,
and
so
the
easier
examined
,
were
not
so
?
The
truth
(
say
they
)
may
be
witnessed
by
those
that
were
present
and
about
the
prisoners
at
the
execution
.
But
who
be
those
?
Why
doth
not
Maerschalcke
in
his
desperate
oath
(
anon
to
be
examined
)
attest
that
there
was
no
such
matter
as
the
English
pretend
?
Or
why
shall
wee
reiect
our
peoples
testimony
,
and
beleeue
these
Remonstrants
without
any
witnesse
?
But
wee
shall
haue
witnesses
hereafter
.
In
the
Interim
then
,
let
the
thing
so
already
witnessed
remaine
for
true
,
till
it
be
contradicted
by
more
and
better
witnesses
.
As
for
the
English
stirring
heauen
and
earth
,
not
to
conceale
or
couer
a
detestable
fact
of
their
owne
people
(
as
the
Remonstrance
speaketh
)
but
to
discouer
a
most
damned
practise
of
the
Dutch
,
and
to
procure
Iustice
vpon
it
,
they
conceiue
they
are
not
to
be
blamed
herein
:
yea
that
it
is
their
dutie
to
mooue
heauen
and
earth
against
them
,
that
haue
mooued
hell
against
Innocents
.
Now
for
the
honestie
and
credit
of
their
Gouernour
and
Councell
at
Amboyna
,
a
string
often
harped
vpon
:
although
it
be
euident
that
there
is
a
great
difference
of
the
stuffe
betweene
the
Iudges
of
Amboyna
,
and
all
other
Iudges
in
the
parts
of
Christendome
:
yet
the
honesty
and
credit
euen
of
the
best
Iudges
is
no
sufficient
defence
for
them
against
such
apparant
proofes
of
Iniustice
,
as
are
extant
in
this
cause
,
euen
in
the
acts
of
the
Processe
it selfe
,
as
is
before
declared
.
For
the
Iudge
that
in
his
Processe
obserueth
not
the
order
prescribed
by
the
Law
,
is
reputed
as
a
priuate
person
.
Otherwise
indeed
,
the
Iudge
is
not
without
proofe
to
be
presumed
to
haue
done
vniustly
:
but
this
will
not
serue
these
Iudges
.
Neither
is
any
partie
accused
,
to
be
presumed
guiltie
,
without
Indicia
or
euidence
:
but
euery
man
to
be
presumed
good
vntill
the
contrary
be
prooued
.
Which
should
haue
mooued
those
Iudges
of
Amboyna
to
haue
beene
tender
and
carefull
in
the
Indicijs
that
were
made
the
pretexts
to
torture
the
first
Iapon
:
and
not
to
torture
a
poore
man
for
asking
an
vsuall
and
harmelesse
question
,
yea
,
and
needfull
in
the
place
of
his
seruice
;
as
is
shewed
in
the
answere
to
the
Dutch
Relation
.
Much
more
ought
they
in
this
respect
to
haue
beene
tender
of
taking
the
extorted
confessions
of
the
Iapons
,
for
a
sufficient
Indicium
against
Maister
Towerson
;
not
onely
in
regard
of
his
qualitie
,
as
being
the
Agent
and
Cape
Merchant
for
the
English
there
;
but
also
of
his
innocent
and
harmelesse
,
(
yea
godly
)
behauiour
at
Amboyna
,
and
all
his
life
before
.
For
as
he
was
a
man
of
note
,
and
knowne
to
most
men
of
his
qualitie
here
in
England
;
so
all
that
knew
him
(
especially
that
were
well
acquainted
with
him
,
whereof
there
is
no
small
number
)
ioyne
and
iumpe
in
this
one
opinion
&
commendations
of
him
,
that
he
was
of
a
most
faire
condition
and
sweet
disposition
,
harmelesse
,
and
without
spleene
or
gall
;
and
(
in
a
word
)
the
vnlikeliest
Englishman
that
euer
went
into
the
East
Indies
,
to
be
a
plotter
or
practiser
of
such
a
fact
,
as
he
was
condemned
of
.
The
Remonstrants
hauing
thus
finished
their
answere
to
the
English
Relation
,
affirme
that
by
their
deduction
of
Iuly
,
and
this
answere
,
they
haue
sufficiently
iustified
the
proceedings
of
their
Officers
at
Amboyna
;
neuerthelesse
ex
abundanti
they
produce
further
euidence
out
of
an
attestation
of
Signeur
Houtman
their
late
Gouernour
in
the
Moluccoes
.
Which
because
it
is
afterwards
againe
repeated
in
seuerall
Articles
,
shall
be
there
with
the
rest
answered
.
In
the
meane
time
,
they
appeale
to
the
Lords
States
generall
,
whether
they
haue
not
by
all
this
giuen
sufficient
satisfaction
and
cause
to
the
English
Company
,
to
abate
and
let
fall
their
suit
,
leauing
the
blame
vpon
the
Authors
of
this
abhominable
conspiracie
(
as
they
call
it
)
and
of
their
owne
misfortune
.
Neuerthelesse
,
not
daring
to
goe
to
tryall
of
the
maine
cause
vpon
these
their
allegations
and
proofes
,
they
pray
that
there
may
be
no
precipitation
vsed
,
but
a
fit
respite
granted
them
for
the
exact
enquiry
of
the
truth
in
the
Indies
:
and
that
in
the
meane
time
,
they
may
haue
the
protection
of
the
Lords
States
,
and
all
misunderstanding
and
contrary
deductions
may
cease
;
at
least
prouisionally
.
For
put
case
(
say
they
)
that
their
Officers
be
truely
guiltie
(
as
the
English
pretend
)
yet
they
must
be
heard
before
they
can
be
condemned
.
And
in
their
opinion
(
say
they
)
the
ground
of
the
Conusance
of
this
cause
must
come
from
Amboyna
to
Battauia
,
and
thence
hether
:
and
time
conuenient
being
giuen
,
there
will
doubtlesse
come
daily
more
and
more
cleare
proofes
and
light
in
the
cause
.
As
for
themselues
,
they
at
last
plainly
confesse
,
that
they
cannot
answere
the
obiections
and
circumstances
alledged
and
proposed
;
but
that
this
must
and
can
be
done
by
them
onely
,
whom
the
cause
toucheth
and
concerneth
:
to
wit
,
their
Officers
at
Amboyn●
,
Here
they
renounce
all
the
defence
and
iustification
which
they
haue
alreadie
made
;
as
impertinent
and
insufficient
.
They
might
haue
done
well
then
to
haue
spared
all
this
labour
,
and
at
first
to
haue
left
the
cause
to
them
whom
it
concernes
,
as
the
English
Company
by
their
Letters
requested
them
.
As
for
precipitation
in
the
cause
,
the
English
Company
require
none
.
But
because
the
Acts
of
the
Councell
at
Amboyna
themselues
containe
all
that
can
be
legally
pleaded
in
iustification
of
the
Officers
,
(
for
,
if
in
them
there
be
no
iust
ground
of
the
condemnation
and
execution
of
the
English
,
all
superuenient
proofes
come
too
late
to
excuse
the
Iudges
,
euen
by
their
owne
Lawes
)
therefore
the
English
Company
presume
and
maintaine
,
that
there
is
already
ground
sufficient
,
out
of
the
same
Acts
,
and
out
of
the
Treatie
,
whereof
this
Processe
is
a
plaine
breach
,
for
the
Lords
States
generall
by
an
Act
of
State
publiquely
to
declare
the
Nullity
and
Iniustice
of
the
Processe
.
But
for
the
iudiciall
proceedings
against
the
particular
persons
that
haue
committed
this
vnparareld
Iniustice
:
there
may
be
such
order
and
course
taken
,
as
his
Maiestie
and
the
Lords
States
shall
finde
the
nature
of
the
cause
to
require
.
Wherein
also
the
greatest
care
and
expedition
that
can
be
vsed
for
the
apprehension
of
the
parties
,
will
be
no
precipitation
;
considering
the
manifest
proofes
of
their
Iniustice
,
appearing
in
their
owne
Acts
,
as
is
before
declared
.
Hauing
finished
their
prayer
to
the
Lords
States
generall
,
to
the
effect
aforesaid
,
the
scope
and
drift
of
all
,
being
onely
for
Dilation
and
respite
in
the
cause
:
yet
as
it
were
repenting
them
of
their
former
reare
and
declination
of
a
present
tryall
they
come
on
a
fresh
with
new
proofes
,
which
they
affirme
to
be
so
strong
and
vigorous
,
that
they
are
of
power
,
more
then
sufficiently
to
giue
their
Officers
an
entire
discharge
,
and
to
confound
their
Aduersaries
:
and
that
without
helpe
of
the
points
before
alledged
.
And
to
make
good
these
great
words
,
they
produce
eleuen
seuerall
Articles
taken
by
deposition
of
Laurence
Maerschalck
their
late
Cape
Merchant
at
Amboyna
,
and
now
returned
into
Holland
,
and
sworne
to
the
same
Articles
before
the
Senate
of
Delfe
the
4.
of
Nouember
last
stilo
nouo
;
whose
name
in
this
Remonstrance
they
conceale
.
Next
they
annexe
the
report
and
deposition
of
Signeur
Houtman
their
late
Gouernour
at
the
Moluccoes
,
before
mentioned
.
And
in
the
last
place
,
they
repeate
some
points
already
by
them
alledged
in
this
Remonstrance
,
and
so
shut
vp
their
whole
Worke.
For
the
testimony
of
Maerschalck
,
it
is
to
be
considered
in
the
generall
;
that
he
is
a
partie
,
being
the
second
man
of
the
Councell
of
Amboyna
:
and
therefore
what
is
before
said
against
the
whole
Councell
,
falleth
vpon
him
in
his
particular
with
more
enforcement
.
Neuerthelesse
,
this
protestation
against
his
incompetency
to
be
a
Witnesse
in
this
cause
being
thus
premised
;
wee
will
peruse
and
examine
the
particulars
of
his
Attestation
:
yet
with
this
leaue
,
a
little
to
inuert
the
order
of
the
Articles
,
(
but
without
preiudice
of
the
substance
of
them
)
thereby
to
take
all
the
matter
of
one
nature
together
,
to
auoyd
prolixitie
and
needlesse
repetition
of
the
same
thing
in
diuers
parts
of
the
answere
.
The
first
,
second
,
and
third
Articles
affirme
,
that
as
well
the
Iapons
as
the
English
,
not
onely
signed
their
seuerall
confessions
with
euery
of
their
hands
respectiuely
,
but
ioyntly
and
seuerally
confirmed
and
persisted
in
the
same
,
euen
out
of
the
fetters
and
irons
,
at
seuerall
sessions
of
the
Councell
;
yea
the
English
three
or
foure
seuerall
times
,
without
retracting
or
reuoking
or
changing
of
anything
:
albeit
the
Gouernour
seriously
admonished
them
to
alter
or
reuoke
any
thing
which
they
had
falsly
confessed
through
paine
or
feare
&c.
But
that
all
the
English
shrinking
vp
their
shoulders
confirmed
all
they
had
confessed
to
be
true
,
and
craued
mercy
and
not
Iustice
.
These
impudent
fictions
are
answered
by
that
which
is
already
noted
concerning
the
Requisites
and
Solennities
of
the
Acts
of
all
Courts
of
Iustice
:
which
by
prescript
of
the
Law
itselfe
record
the
passages
of
euery
Session
,
with
the
date
thereof
.
But
in
all
the
Acts
of
the
Court
of
Amboyna
,
(
vnlesse
they
haue
giuen
a
false
Copie
,
which
yet
were
to
be
taken
for
true
against
themselues
that
so
falsified
it
)
there
is
no
mention
of
any
more
confession
then
one
of
euery
prisoner
,
nor
of
any
freedome
from
fetters
,
nor
of
any
such
admonition
by
the
Gouernour
as
is
here
pretended
.
Besides
the
English
that
are
escaped
,
as
well
those
that
were
absolued
,
as
the
rest
,
vtterly
deny
these
seuerall
points
to
be
true
.
Yea
the
gesture
here
added
of
the
contracting
or
shrinking
vp
the
shoulders
,
being
no
English
gesture
,
sufficiently
refuteth
this
fiction
.
The
fourth
Article
saith
,
that
William
Webber
one
of
the
Complices
confessed
he
had
receiued
a
Letter
from
Iohn
Clarke
,
intimating
that
there
was
some
extraordinary
matter
and
of
great
importance
in
hand
by
the
English
at
Amboyna
:
and
that
Iohn
Clarke
confessed
to
haue
written
such
a
Letter
.
The
confession
of
Webber
touching
this
Letter
,
is
acknowledged
in
the
English
Relation
:
but
whereas
this
deposition
saith
,
that
Clarke
also
confessed
the
writing
of
such
a
Letter
,
the
Acts
themselues
wherein
Clarks
confession
is
set
downe
by
the
Dutch
Actuary
,
refuteth
it
,
not
making
mention
of
any
such
thing
,
nor
of
any
question
ministred
to
Clarke
touching
this
Letter
,
or
his
meaning
by
that
intimation
;
Which
would
not
haue
beene
omitted
,
if
the
Fiscall
had
not
perceiued
that
Webber
had
faigned
this
matter
onely
to
auoyde
torture
.
The
fifth
Article
being
of
the
same
nature
with
the
eighth
and
ninth
,
shall
be
anon
with
them
answered
.
The
sixth
and
seauenth
Articles
recite
certaine
pretended
voluntary
confessions
of
Thompson
made
before
some
of
the
Councell
apart
:
to
wit
,
that
he
had
endured
so
much
torture
without
confession
,
because
he
was
often
vpbraided
by
Master
Towerson
with
drunkennesse
,
and
warned
that
he
should
not
in
his
cupps
discouer
the
pretended
plott
.
Whereupon
he
had
vowed
and
sworne
to
himselfe
,
that
he
would
not
be
the
third
nor
yet
the
fourth
man
that
confessed
:
what
euer
torture
he
suffered
.
But
afterwards
he
confessed
(
saith
the
seuenth
Article
)
that
he
was
glad
that
God
had
reuealed
the
fact
,
for
the
sauing
of
innocent
bloud
,
and
that
he
had
doubly
deserued
death
:
yet
craued
mercy
.
Here
let
the
course
of
the
Dutch
in
making
Affidauit
of
the
pretended
voluntary
confession
of
Maister
Towerson
before
six
of
the
Councell
apart
(
and
entred
into
the
Acts
)
be
considered
,
as
it
is
truely
set
downe
in
the
answere
to
the
Dutch
Relation
:
and
it
will
manifestly
appeare
,
that
this
confession
of
Thomsons
(
if
any
such
had
beene
)
was
of
much
more
importance
to
the
clearing
of
the
Dutch
proceedings
,
then
those
obscure
words
of
Maister
Towerson
:
and
so
would
the
rather
haue
beene
brought
by
way
of
Attestation
into
the
Acts
,
as
the
other
were
.
But
in
the
Acts
there
is
no
entry
of
any
such
confession
of
Thomson
:
who
also
going
to
the
execution
,
and
being
reproched
to
be
a
Schellam
or
villaine
,
openly
and
boldly
answered
,
that
he
was
as
honest
as
the
Gouernor
himselfe
,
and
by
and
by
tooke
his
death
that
he
was
innocent
.
The
fifth
,
eighth
,
and
ninth
Articles
affirme
,
that
Collins
confessed
all
without
torture
,
and
being
confronted
with
Maister
Towerson
before
the
Councell
,
auerred
his
confession
,
and
perswaded
him
to
doe
the
like
,
also
that
Maister
Towerson
being
another
time
before
the
Councell
with
the
rest
of
the
English
prisoners
,
reproached
them
with
their
drunkennesse
and
disordered
liues
,
and
imputed
the
discouery
of
the
conspiracie
to
Gods
iudgement
vpon
their
wickednesse
:
yet
that
at
last
Maister
Towerson
confessed
himselfe
to
be
the
Author
and
instigator
of
the
rest
,
and
asked
them
forgiuenesse
.
Of
all
these
matters
being
farre
more
pregnant
(
if
they
were
true
)
to
haue
beene
the
ground
of
the
sentence
then
any
thing
entred
in
the
Acts
,
there
is
no
one
word
or
mention
in
all
the
Processe
,
although
these
things
are
here
affirmed
to
haue
passed
before
the
bodie
of
the
Councell
.
But
it
seemeth
that
Maerschalk
(
since
his
arriuall
in
Holland
)
is
shewed
the
defects
of
the
Processe
,
and
so
would
supply
them
by
his
owne
testimony
.
But
he
commeth
now
too
late
to
make
new
Acts
,
after
the
Copie
of
the
Processe
imparted
to
the
English
.
In
particular
,
Collins
was
tortured
with
water
in
such
sort
,
as
the
view
of
him
afterwards
made
Coulson
confesse
without
torture
,
as
is
set
downe
in
the
English
Relation
,
and
yet
auerred
by
those
also
that
saw
him
come
out
as
Coulson
did
.
Further
,
how
sencelesse
had
the
speech
of
Maister
Towerson
beene
,
to
impute
the
discouerie
of
the
plott
,
to
Gods
iustice
vpon
the
bad
life
of
his
pretended
Complices
,
and
not
rather
vpon
himselfe
for
being
the
inuenter
and
Author
of
the
conspiracie
,
in
it selfe
more
haynous
,
then
any
thing
he
could
charge
the
rest
withall
?
Lastly
,
it
is
already
sufficiently
prooued
by
more
competent
witnesses
then
Maerschalk
,
that
Maister
Towerson
and
the
rest
were
neuer
together
before
the
Councell
,
from
the
first
apprehension
vntill
the
last
sentence
:
and
that
in
all
that
time
,
he
spake
with
none
of
the
English
,
but
Coulson
,
Griggs
,
and
Fardo
;
so
impudent
is
this
attestation
of
Maerschalck
,
that
he
vsed
the
speeches
here
pretended
,
vnto
Collins
and
the
rest
;
and
that
before
the
Councell
.
The
tenth
Article
saith
,
there
was
a
Letter
written
by
Maister
Towerson
to
Coulson
,
charging
him
to
be
the
prime
and
sole
cause
that
mooued
him
to
this
enterprise
of
making
himselfe
Maister
of
the
Castle
:
and
that
the
same
Letter
was
in
the
hands
of
the
Gouernor
of
Amboyna
.
If
this
be
true
,
how
could
Maister
Towerson
make
himselfe
the
first
author
of
this
conspiracy
,
as
the
Acts
and
Maerschalcks
owne
relation
in
the
former
Articles
present
him
?
How
cometh
it
,
that
there
is
no
mention
of
this
Letter
in
the
Acts
,
nor
the
same
Letter
or
any
authenticall
Copie
thereof
sent
ouer
for
iustification
of
the
cause
,
being
so
pregnant
and
pertinent
a
proofe
?
The
11.
Article
telleth
a
tale
of
Collins
his
refusing
to
sit
and
eate
with
the
Dutch
Merchants
in
their
passage
from
Amboyna
to
Iaccatra
in
the
shippe
,
when
he
and
Beamont
were
sent
thither
:
vpon
scruple
(
forsooth
)
to
eate
with
such
honest
men
,
being
himselfe
a
traytor
.
This
as
it
is
friuolous
and
of
no
value
in
itselfe
,
Collins
being
then
as
a
condemned
man
to
stand
to
the
mercy
of
the
Dutch
Generall
at
Iaccatra
:
so
the
truth
of
it
is
vtterly
denied
by
Beamont
that
passed
with
him
in
the
same
shippe
,
and
together
with
Collins
did
eate
at
the
same
Table
with
the
Dutch
Merchants
without
strayning
of
any
curtesie
for
the
matter
.
But
to
helpe
the
testimony
of
Maerschalk
,
that
sweareth
all
the
former
points
in
his
owne
cause
,
and
against
the
very
Acts
themselues
,
and
all
other
probabilities
:
the
Remonstrants
in
the
next
Article
,
supply
him
with
a
Contestis
,
beyond
exception
as
they
pretend
:
to
wit
,
Signeur
Houtman
their
late
Gouernour
in
the
Moluccoes
.
Who
comming
thence
to
Amboyna
after
the
execution
,
heard
and
saw
some
things
pertaining
to
this
businesse
;
whereof
,
(
being
now
returned
into
Holland
)
he
maketh
report
and
deposition
,
in
sixe
seuerall
points
,
viz:
First
,
that
it
was
firmely
and
without
question
or
doubt
beleeued
at
Amboyna
generally
,
and
by
euery
man
in
particular
;
yea
by
himselfe
also
:
that
the
English
and
Iapons
there
had
truely
and
in
effect
conspired
the
taking
of
the
Castle
.
Secondly
,
that
the
said
Signeur
Houtman
comming
through
Hitto
,
George
Sherrock
(
one
of
the
English
Complices
)
fell
at
his
feete
,
and
acknowledged
the
great
fauour
that
Gouernour
Speult
and
the
Councell
at
Amboyna
had
done
him
in
pardoning
his
delict
.
Thirdly
,
that
he
was
afterwards
present
at
Iaccatra
when
Iohn
Beamont
(
another
of
the
English
Complices
)
confessed
his
fault
before
the
Dutch
Generall
Carpentiere
,
and
craued
mercy
for
the
same
.
Fourthly
,
that
himselfe
and
diuers
others
at
Iaccatra
,
had
good
and
sure
information
and
notice
,
that
Beamont
freely
confessed
the
conspiracie
also
to
the
English
President
there
;
but
that
the
English
President
thereupon
lockt
him
vp
close
from
speaking
with
any
man
;
thereby
to
preuent
the
dishonor
of
the
treason
.
Fiftly
,
that
the
Gouernour
Speult
is
reputed
for
a
man
of
worth
,
honorable
and
godly
,
by
all
that
haue
conuersed
with
him
:
and
the
rest
of
the
Councell
also
,
such
as
cannot
any
way
be
doubted
or
suspected
guiltie
of
so
foule
a
fact
,
as
to
accuse
or
misvse
the
English
,
much
lesse
to
put
them
to
death
,
if
they
had
not
beene
guiltie
.
Lastly
,
that
the
torture
of
Water
is
alwayes
vsed
by
the
Dutch
in
the
Indies
,
and
is
not
so
cruell
nor
dangerous
,
as
other
kindes
of
torture
vsed
in
the
Low
Countryes
,
and
in
all
Europe
.
First
,
the
English
that
were
saued
from
the
butchery
of
Amboyna
,
doe
not
yet
beleeue
,
that
Signeur
Houtman
hath
deposed
,
as
is
here
inferred
.
For
when
he
was
at
Amboyna
,
and
laboured
to
be
brought
in
expost
facto
,
for
the
saluing
of
the
businesse
;
he
openly
professed
:
that
he
would
wash
his
hands
of
it
,
and
that
Harman
van
Speult
had
begun
it
,
and
Harman
van
Speult
should
end
it
.
And
this
presumption
of
theirs
is
further
confirmed
by
the
manner
of
citing
this
Signeur
Houtman
,
euen
in
this
Article
,
where
his
deposition
is
not
simply
and
clearely
alledged
;
but
with
this
doubtfull
variation
:
Les
dires
et
depositions
du
Signeur
Gouerneur
Houtman
,
&c.
Neither
is
it
specified
,
where
or
before
whom
or
when
he
tooke
his
oath
:
which
yet
is
according
to
the
Custome
set
downe
touching
the
deposition
of
Maerschalck
:
to
wit
,
that
he
tooke
his
oath
before
the
Senate
of
Delft
the
4.
of
Nouember
1624.
But
admit
he
be
sworne
to
these
Articles
:
let
vs
examine
their
particular
import
.
The
first
is
onely
of
a
common
opinion
and
fame
that
he
found
at
Amboyna
,
that
it
was
a
true
treason
.
Is
it
any
maruaile
that
the
Dutch
,
that
had
made
the
people
beleeue
that
the
English
meant
to
haue
ript
vp
the
bellies
of
the
women
with
childe
(
euen
of
the
Natiues
)
and
to
make
choice
by
the
beautie
and
feature
of
the
seuerall
infants
,
which
to
saue
and
which
to
slay
,
had
prepared
a
sufficient
rumor
against
the
comming
of
Signeur
Houtman
,
to
winne
his
opinion
to
their
cause
?
Next
,
it
is
not
likely
that
he
spake
with
any
,
but
those
of
the
Castle
:
who
were
most
of
them
parties
in
this
but
cherie
:
and
therefore
would
make
no
report
to
him
,
but
what
serued
their
owne
turnes
.
Further
,
the
iudgement
being
passed
against
our
people
,
their
fact
(
though
neuer
done
)
might
be
presumed
notorious
in
Law
:
and
therefore
no
maruaile
he
and
others
gaue
credit
to
it
.
Yet
who
knoweth
not
,
that
much
false
iudgement
happeneth
,
notwithstanding
the
notorietie
induced
by
the
Acts
and
sentence
?
It
were
an
easie
matter
for
a
Iudge
to
answere
any
Iniustice
thus
.
But
when
the
iudgement
and
the
Iudges
are
questioned
of
Iniustice
,
the
notorietie
that
themselues
haue
made
is
no
plea
for
them
.
Yet
if
the
Acts
containe
sufficient
proofes
for
ground
of
the
sentence
,
then
such
notorietie
may
helpe
them
.
But
in
this
case
,
the
Acts
shewing
that
they
haue
proceeded
contrary
to
Law
,
inferre
their
Iniustice
to
be
notorious
,
as
is
before
shewed
.
For
the
second
and
third
Articles
,
concerning
Sherrock
and
Beamonts
confession
of
their
faults
extra
iudicially
,
and
while
they
were
yet
in
danger
:
they
are
of
no
moment
,
to
prooue
their
guilt
,
much
lesse
the
guilt
of
those
that
were
executed
,
of
whom
these
confessions
make
no
mention
;
nor
especially
can
they
giue
any
succour
to
the
cause
of
the
Gouernour
and
Councell
for
their
proceedings
:
who
ought
to
haue
had
the
grounds
of
their
sentence
in
the
Acts
of
the
Processe
,
before
they
condemned
and
executed
our
people
.
More
particularly
,
Sherrock
indeed
confesseth
,
that
with
humble
obeysance
he
complained
to
Signeur
Houtman
of
the
Dutches
daily
reproaching
him
with
treason
,
and
prayed
him
that
he
would
deale
with
the
Gouernor
Speult
,
to
take
order
with
them
for
their
inciuilitie
.
For
(
said
he
)
although
I
had
beene
guiltie
,
yet
being
now
pardoned
,
why
should
they
thus
reproach
me
?
Other
confession
then
this
,
he
vtterly
denieth
to
haue
made
to
Signeur
Houtman
.
Beamont
also
confesseth
,
that
when
he
came
to
Iaccatra
,
being
sent
thither
to
stand
to
the
mercy
of
the
Generall
;
who
then
told
him
,
that
he
came
thither
to
die
;
he
was
much
amased
.
But
when
sodainly
the
Generall
in
better
earnest
told
him
,
he
forgaue
him
;
then
he
gaue
him
humble
,
and
open
thanks
;
but
made
no
confession
of
his
fault
,
nor
was
by
the
Generall
vrged
in
the
least
thereunto
.
For
the
fourth
point
,
that
Signeur
Houtman
and
others
had
such
notice
,
as
is
here
pretended
of
Beamonts
confession
to
the
English
President
;
who
also
clapt
him
vp
for
it
:
it
were
here
requisite
that
Signeur
Houtman
(
if
he
haue
thus
attested
)
did
name
his
Authors
if
he
will
be
beleeued
.
For
himselfe
is
but
testis
ex
auditu
.
In
the
meane
time
,
not
onely
Beamont
denyeth
these
things
,
but
Collins
that
lodged
in
the
same
chamber
at
Iaccatra
with
him
,
auerreth
,
that
his
restraint
and
close
custody
is
vtterly
feigned
;
neither
did
he
euer
heare
any
word
or
inckling
of
such
his
confession
to
the
President
.
Maister
Augustine
Spalding
also
then
one
of
the
English
Councell
at
Iaccatra
,
(
but
now
returned
into
England
)
giueth
the
like
report
.
For
the
fifth
point
,
being
the
faire
testimony
of
Signeur
Houtman
touching
the
person
of
his
brother
Gouernor
,
Van
Speult
,
and
his
Councell
;
It
is
a
point
of
ciuilitie
in
him
,
to
helpe
them
with
a
good
word
in
the
generall
:
but
it
is
farre
too
light
to
lay
in
the
scoale
against
the
seuerall
and
pregnant
proofes
of
their
foule
Iniustice
,
before
in
this
reply
at
large
specified
,
by
the
witnesse
of
all
our
English
that
were
saued
(
as
well
those
that
were
absolued
as
the
rest
)
by
cleare
circumstances
of
the
whole
businesse
,
and
by
the
Acts
themselues
of
the
Councell
of
Amboyna
.
Lastly
,
for
the
Water
torture
,
it
appeareth
without
Signeur
Houtmans
testimony
,
to
be
vsed
by
the
Dutch
in
the
Indies
.
The
poore
Polarones
and
the
English
witnesse
it
with
a
mischiefe
.
But
to
make
it
lawfull
;
it
should
be
prooued
to
be
vsed
in
the
Low
Countryes
:
as
hath
beene
alreadie
shewed
.
But
why
doth
Signeur
Houtman
,
nor
the
Remonstrants
,
in
all
this
discourse
say
nothing
for
the
Fire-torture
,
which
was
also
vsed
,
and
that
in
most
barbarous
manner
and
degree
vpon
the
poore
Iapons
,
and
diuers
of
the
English
?
The
Remonstrance
hauing
thus
pressed
the
testimony
of
Maerschalck
and
Signeur
Houtman
,
in
the
next
place
(
being
the
13.
Article
)
telleth
vs
without
any
witnesse
:
that
diuers
persons
(
which
the
English
Relation
mentioneth
)
to
be
tortured
with
Fire
and
Water
,
were
neuer
once
touched
.
If
this
were
true
and
certaine
,
it
had
beene
easie
for
the
Remonstrants
to
haue
named
the
persons
touching
whom
such
error
is
committed
.
The
English
Relation
nameth
none
but
Iohnson
,
Thomson
,
and
Clarke
to
be
tortured
with
Fire
.
Which
of
these
will
the
Remonstrants
denie
to
be
so
handled
:
against
such
cleare
euidence
of
our
part
?
The
foureteenth
Article
promiseth
,
that
the
particulars
and
pettie
matters
(
as
they
are
here
tearmed
)
shall
be
disprooued
by
the
depositions
of
those
that
were
in
presence
,
and
should
haue
knowne
them
if
any
had
beene
.
Therefore
vntill
they
be
thus
disprooued
,
(
which
will
neuer
be
)
let
them
remaine
for
true
;
especially
being
alreadie
prooued
by
the
oath
of
credible
persons
,
and
carrying
truth
in
the
very
circumstances
.
Lastly
,
for
the
extraordinary
signes
that
happened
at
the
time
of
the
execution
,
which
are
here
(
scoffingly
)
tearmed
miracles
,
the
same
are
also
prooued
by
oath
,
and
further
by
Letters
written
from
some
of
the
seruants
of
the
Dutch
themselues
at
Amboyna
,
readie
to
be
exhibited
vpon
occasion
.
And
as
it
had
beene
a
sillie
part
of
the
English
to
haue
feigned
such
matter
,
so
is
it
no
lesse
impudence
to
deny
that
which
so
many
as
well
Dutch
and
Indians
as
English
saw
,
and
knew
to
be
notorious
.
After
all
this
new
charge
so
confidently
giuen
,
yet
the
Remonstrants
fall
off
againe
,
and
not
desiring
to
put
the
triall
of
the
cause
vpon
these
,
nor
all
the
rest
of
their
allegations
;
they
returne
by
way
of
conclusion
to
pray
the
Lords
States
Generall
,
that
there
may
be
a
conuenient
respite
giuen
for
the
better
examination
of
the
whole
matter
:
and
to
that
end
that
they
will
mediate
with
his
Maiestie
,
to
content
himselfe
also
therewith
.
But
the
English
East
India
Companie
vpon
the
grounds
before
at
large
deduced
,
doubt
not
but
that
the
cause
will
appeare
as
well
to
his
Maiesty
as
the
Lords
States
,
to
be
ripe
and
readie
for
such
an
Act
of
State
as
is
desired
,
and
for
the
apprehension
of
the
Authors
of
this
odious
and
execrable
Processe
,
as
soone
as
they
,
or
any
of
them
can
be
gotten
.
And
then
the
iudiciall
Processe
against
them
may
follow
,
as
shall
appertaine
to
so
foule
and
infernall
a
Fact
.
(
⸪
)
FINIS
.