Mr.
Edward
Bagshaw
,
THe
Title
of
your
Book
is
not
immodest
,
being
called
only
An
Enquiry
into
the
Grounds
of
the
Roman
Churches
Infallibility
;
But
by
pronouncing
in
the
conclusion
those
fatall
words
,
MENE
TEKEL
,
you
confidently
declare
,
it
cannot
be
answered
:
The
destruction
of
the
Babilonian
Monarchy
was
not
more
inevitable
after
the
writing
that
Decretory
sentence
by
an
invisible
Angels
fingers
,
than
is
the
Roman
Churches
now
.
You
have
compiled
and
published
this
your
Book
,
which
you
judge
unanswerable
,
and
(
to
deal
ingenuously
with
you
)
so
may
I
too
,
though
I
be
as
good
a
Catholick
as
the
Pope
himself
.
What
would
you
have
more
?
A
reason
for
it
?
Have
but
a
little
patience
and
you
shall
not
fail
of
one
,
better
then
you
expect
,
or
have
knowledge
to
foresee
.
2.
Yet
I
conceive
it
concerns
not
Catholicks
only
,
but
the
whole
Kingdom
,
I
mean
all
good
Subjects
in
it
,
that
such
a
book
,
though
pretendedly
against
Roman
Catholicks
only
,
yet
full
of
pernicious
invectives
,
malicious
complaints
,
and
seditious
reflexions
against
the
State
,
should
with
a
barefac'd
impudence
stalke
abroad
in
the
publick
view
,
as
fearless
of
a
censure
.
Nor
is
the
Book
in
it self
so
highly
provoking
,
as
in
respect
of
the
abominable
Preface
that
no
honest
subject
,
Protestant
or
Catholick
,
can
read
without
indignation
,
no
reader
justify
or
not
mislike
without
declaring
his
Thirst
after
the
publick
ruine
.
3.
The
Apostles
advice
of
redeeming
the
time
forbids
me
to
mispend
it
by
replying
line
after
line
to
what
you
have
written
:
That
therefore
which
I
have
to
say
to
you
shall
be
to
make
good
these
positions
in
direct
opposition
to
what
you
have
written
,
viz.
1.
That
it
is
against
the
welfare
of
English
subjects
,
both
for
body
and
soul
,
that
you
,
and
such
as
you
should
be
permitted
to
call
your selves
Protestants
,
and
members
of
the
English
Church
.
2.
That
your
instilling
suspicions
into
the
peoples
minds
,
as
if
English
Divines
,
&c.
had
a
design
to
introduce
Popery
again
,
is
a
meer
acting
over
the
late
Rebellion
.
3.
That
your
attempt
to
render
Roman
Catholick
subjects
only
in
an
incapacity
of
Toleration
,
is
more
groundlesse
,
and
in
your
mouthes
most
maliciously
ridiculous
.
4.
That
your
whole
discourse
against
the
Churches
Infallibility
only
proves
that
you
have
nothing
to
say
to
the
purpose
against
it
.
I.
That
it
is
a
publick
mischief
that
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
or
any
such
as
he
,
should
be
permitted
to
call
themselves
English
Protestants
.
1.
IF
common
fame
be
true
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
you
are
the
same
person
that
published
so
petulant
and
uncivil
a
Libel
against
my
Lord
Bishop
of
Worcester
,
and
not
for
that
fault
alone
have
been
so
deservedly
Disciplined
by
Mr.
l'Estrange
,
and
so
smartly
whip't
,
that
the
whole
Town
has
heard
your
cries
.
How
then
comes
it
to
pass
that
you
can
find
leasure
to
seek
out
,
and
defy
to
the
combat
other
enemies
?
But
it
may
be
the
demolishing
of
the
Roman
Church
is
but
an
excursion
in
a
Parenthesis
,
whilst
you
are
,
for
your
divertisement
,
unbending
your
thoughts
,
or
taking
breath
awhile
against
a
new
combat
,
with
an
Adversary
that
has
a
great
deal
more
zeal
,
sharpness
,
honesty
and
courage
then
is
for
your
purpose
,
who
hope
not
to
be
discern'd
,
whilst
in
despight
of
the
Act
of
Oblivion
you
will
not
suffer
either
the
King
or
any
of
his
faithfull
Subjects
to
forget
what
they
have
suffered
,
and
must
expect
,
but
still
work
and
preach
and
print
,
almost
totidem
Verbis
as
you
did
when
the
horrible
Covenant
was
the
only
Religion
and
Gospel
of
the
three
Kingdoms
.
2.
These
practices
,
Mr.
L
‛
Estrange
,
if
he
cannot
interrupt
,
yet
he
can
call
company
,
and
bid
them
take
notice
of
them
.
He
will
not
permit
you
to
Glory
as
if
you
could
once
more
couzen
the
Kingdom
into
a
new
Rebellion
.
Never
hope
to
find
so
much
as
one
English
Protestant
that
will
once
more
be
cheated
to
look
upon
you
as
the
Assertors
of
the
Subjects
Liberties
,
or
maintainers
of
pure
Protestant
Religion
.
If
the
Civil
Authority
will
for
ever
wink
at
your
Caballs
,
and
the
Ecclesiastick
leave
open
the
Pulpits
to
your
Sermons
of
the
old
stile
,
and
the
Presses
to
your
Pamphlets
against
Bishops
and
indifferent
Ceremonies
:
If
you
expect
Indemnity
must
be
interpreted
to
regard
the
future
also
,
all
that
can
be
said
will
be
,
Sani
,
Sobrii
,
vigiles
perîmus
.
We
shall
not
,
as
heretofore
,
be
surprised
:
but
we
make
a
Covenant
with
destruction
,
as
if
we
were
afraid
it
would
escape
us
.
3.
As
for
your
Pamphlet
touching
Infallibility
,
though
by
the
Title
you
pretend
to
attacque
only
Roman
Catholicks
,
and
to
demolish
the
Grounds
of
the
Churches
Faith
,
yet
in
the
whole
Book
there
are
not
quite
two
small
leaves
wherein
the
Church
is
concern'd
at
all
either
in
its
Grounds
or
Superstructure
.
Therefore
I
am
confident
,
and
it
may
be
Mr.
L'Estrange
(
who
knows
your
wayes
and
Arts
much
better
then
I
)
may
in
a
far
neater
,
that
is
,
his
own
stile
tell
you
,
your
real
Design
was
to
write
a
Book
with
the
Title
against
Catholicks
,
meerly
to
have
an
opportunity
to
stuffe
the
Preface
with
malicious
glances
against
Protestants
too
,
and
incense
vulgar
minds
,
as
if
Popery
(
forsooth
)
were
ready
to
be
introduced
.
4.
Now
though
my self
,
purely
as
a
Catholick
,
am
little
concern'd
in
that
part
of
your
book
which
you
purposely
wrote
against
Catholicks
;
and
not
very
much
in
those
passages
against
Protestants
,
except
only
in
this
consideration
,
that
you
would
fain
make
Catholick
Religion
your
Engine
to
raise
troubles
,
yet
as
a
faithfull
Subject
to
his
Majesty
,
and
a
lover
of
my
Countries
peace
,
I
cannot
but
inwardly
bewail
,
and
must
take
leave
thus
publickly
to
justifie
the
too
reasonable
cause
of
my
grief
,
when
I
see
an
English
Subject
openly
professing
his
name
,
and
pretending
to
the
Protection
of
an
Honourable
Counsellour
of
State
,
renew
the
old
seditious
practise
of
inflaming
the
Peoples
minds
with
rage
against
their
Teachers
,
and
murmuring
suspicions
against
their
Governours
:
A
practise
that
above
all
others
contributed
to
the
raising
of
the
late
Rebellion
,
and
to
the
ruine
and
murder
of
our
late
Soveraign
of
happy
memory
,
and
his
best
Subjects
and
Servants
,
the
late
Archbishop
of
Canterbury
,
Earl
of
Strafford
,
&c.
Here
are
still
among
us
God
knowes
how
many
Sects
,
that
if
any
Protestant
Doctours
shall
presume
to
speak
or
write
otherwise
,
then
according
to
what
the
furious
zeal
of
Sectaries
against
Ecclesiasticall
Unity
and
peace
suggests
,
they
must
presently
be
exposed
to
a
general
suspicion
,
the
Country
must
be
raised
upon
them
,
and
upon
the
Bishops
if
they
not
discountenance
them
,
and
upon
the
King
unless
he
punish
them
for
no
fault
at
all
.
4.
But
give
me
leave
now
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
to
ask
.
Who
are
you
?
of
what
Sect
?
Of
what
Church
?
Common
report
gives
you
for
a
Presbyterian
,
a
man
formerly
very
busie
in
the
Intrigues
of
that
Faction
.
Yet
some
passages
in
your
Preface
and
Epistle
Dedicatory
speak
you
an
Independent
:
in
which
you
call
your self
an
Assertor
of
Christian
Liberty
,
complaining
of
the
keenness
of
Laws
against
such
;
a
disliker
of
Episcopal
Authority
as
setled
in
England
;
and
one
that
refuses
to
admit
the
interpretation
of
Scripture
from
any
Person
or
Church
,
but
only
from
your
own
private
Reason
.
Most
likely
it
is
,
you
reserve
in
petto
a
Declaration
whether
party
you
mean
to
adhere
to
,
till
you
see
how
they
are
likely
to
thrive
:
till
then
you
would
pass
for
an
Amphibion
.
And
truly
such
a
temper
among
you
threatens
much
danger
to
the
State
.
When
Pilate
and
Herod
are
made
friends
,
Christ
must
look
to
himself
.
5.
If
you
be
an
Independent
on
all
others
,
will
you
not
suffer
others
to
be
Independent
likewise
on
you
?
Or
if
you
be
a
Presbyterian
;
are
you
not
content
with
enjoying
hitherto
the
fruits
of
his
Majesties
most
gracious
promise
from
Breda
?
None
pretend
more
then
you
to
tender
consciences
.
Have
any
call'd
you
in
question
for
differences
in
Religion
?
But
this
it
seems
will
not
serve
your
turn
:
Nor
an
Independents
turn
.
Your
tender
conscience
will
not
accept
of
the
only
condition
that
his
Majesty
annexes
to
this
his
Grace
,
which
is
,
That
you
must
not
disturb
the
peace
of
the
Kingdom
.
This
most
just
and
necessary
condition
you
here
in
your
Preface
renounce
,
in
which
you
again
blow
the
Trumpet
to
sedition
,
by
telling
the
World
that
English
Divines
are
bringing
in
Popery
.
If
that
were
true
,
as
long
as
it
may
be
permitted
to
you
to
be
Presbyterians
or
Independents
among
your selves
,
what
do
you
complain
of
?
Will
you
never
leave
this
peevish
,
this
malicious
envy
,
not
to
content
your selves
with
your
own
safety
unless
others
be
ruin'd
?
6.
But
it
is
intolerable
that
you
should
call
your selves
in
your
Preface
,
We
Protestants
:
and
talke
of
our
Reformed
Church
of
England
,
or
our
Ancestors
,
Our
primitive
protestancy
,
&c.
Are
you
an
English
Protestant
?
a
member
of
the
English
Church
established
by
Law
and
Canons
?
Why
then
do
you
not
submit
peaceably
to
the
government
of
your
Bishops
,
and
indifferent
Ceremonies
?
Why
do
you
reject
the
Book
of
Common
Prayer
enacted
by
supreme
authority
both
Spiritual
and
Temporal
to
be
the
publick
Liturgy
of
the
protestancy
of
England
?
Why
do
you
find
fault
with
the
keenness
of
Laws
against
such
Assertors
of
Christian
Liberty
?
The
very
titles
you
assume
of
Presbyterian
or
Independent
,
declare
that
your
formal
essence
consists
in
an
opposition
to
English
protestancy
and
prelacy
.
You
pilfer
therefore
the
name
of
an
English
Protestant
,
ut
sportulam
furunculus
,
to
use
Tertullians
phrase
:
Or
rather
you
are
English
protestants
,
as
Salvian
says
some
in
his
time
were
Christians
,
in
opprobium
&
contumeliam
Christi
.
7.
But
you
are
wise
in
your
generations
:
you
know
you
could
do
no
mischief
,
unless
you
took
a
vizard
.
For
if
you
had
spoken
in
your
Preface
the
true
Language
of
a
Sectary
;
if
directing
your
speech
to
English
Protestants
you
had
said
,
I
Mr.
Edward
Bagshaw
,
Student
of
Christ-Church
,
a
very
Presbyterian
(
or
Independent
)
a
professed
Rebell
against
the
English
Church
,
do
out
of
my
tender
love
and
care
of
the
welfare
and
promotion
of
the
said
Church
,
give
you
,
O
English
Protestants
,
warning
to
take
heed
of
Popery
,
for
the
bringing
in
of
which
among
you
Doctour
Gunning
and
Mr.
Thorndike
,
and
God
knowes
how
many
more
are
preparing
way
;
the
Bishops
are
of
intelligence
with
them
,
and
the
State
connives
at
them
:
Therefore
look
to
your selves
.
All
we
can
do
is
to
blow
the
Trumpet
,
and
tell
you
once
more
how
couragiously
we
will
lead
you
to
a
thorough
Reformation
:
If
you
have
neither
zeal
for
God
,
nor
knowledge
of
your
own
strength
,
't
is
none
of
our
fault
,
Little
do
you
know
that
we
Presbyterians
,
Independents
,
Anabaptists
Quakers
,
&
e.
are
again
become
good
friends
,
and
will
joyne
together
to
put
down
this
Antichristian
Hierarchy
;
and
when
we
are
to
divide
their
lands
it
will
be
time
to
try
which
of
us
can
get
most
.
Now
a
beater
Meane
we
have
not
for
such
a
purpose
then
,
as
formerly
we
did
,
to
cry
out
,
Beware
of
Popery
,
Take
heed
of
your
Antichristian
Clergy
,
&c.
8.
If
you
had
unwisely
discovered
your
thoughts
with
such
plainnesse
,
your
open
dealing
would
have
shewed
some
sincerity
,
some
appearance
of
the
simplicity
of
the
Dove
,
but
little
of
the
subtle
wisdom
of
the
Serpent
,
a
quality
much
more
for
your
purpose
.
Notwithstanding
,
your
vizard
being
quite
worne
out
,
your
calling
your selves
English
Protestants
will
not
have
the
effect
it
had
in
your
former
happy
dayes
twenty
years
since
.
Your
Voice
is
too
well
known
now
not
to
be
Jacobs
,
There
is
scarce
an
English
subject
so
ignorant
,
or
of
so
short
a
memory
,
but
can
take
notice
that
this
was
the
Old
Tune
that
sounded
to
a
charge
,
and
invited
them
to
kill
one
another
for
Charities
sake
,
and
to
suffer
you
know
whom
,
to
murther
the
best
King
that
ever
reigned
before
him
.
The
difference
between
the
two
Brethren
in
iniquity
,
being
only
this
;
One
did
but
fight
against
him
,
and
the
Other
killed
him
;
One
bound
his
hand
,
and
the
other
cut
off
his
head
:
They
will
be
so
far
from
startling
at
the
name
of
Popery
out
of
your
mouthes
,
that
perhaps
they
may
begin
to
entertain
a
better
opinion
of
a
Religion
so
persecuted
by
you
,
especially
remembring
that
the
Papists
never
separated
their
interests
from
the
Kings
and
Theirs
,
but
unanimously
ventured
their
lives
and
estates
for
them
,
and
this
purely
out
of
love
,
Duty
and
conscience
,
even
when
all
they
could
expect
by
a
victory
was
to
remain
still
under
the
penalty
of
the
Laws
.
9.
Therefore
a
disguise
is
necessary
for
you
whensoever
you
would
speak
,
except
to
your
own
Party
in
private
.
It
had
been
folly
in
extremity
to
say
,
We
Presbyterians
,
Independents
,
&c.
do
give
you
English
Protestants
warning
to
beware
of
your
Doctours
that
would
bring
in
Popery
,
It
had
been
apparently
to
your
own
prejudice
,
unless
you
had
said
,
We
tell
you
this
who
are
true
Reformed
English
Protestants
,
of
the
same
Church
with
you
,
your
Pastours
,
who
have
care
of
your
souls
,
whom
you
see
no
man
hinders
from
preaching
in
your
Pulpits
,
and
writing
Books
to
Preach
to
those
that
cannot
hear
us
in
Pulpits
.
If
we
were
enemies
would
the
Civill
or
Ecclesiastical
State
,
think
you
,
allow
us
such
a
liberty
,
and
maintain
us
at
their
charges
to
Preach
and
Print
as
we
do
?
10.
But
I
do
assure
you
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
you
are
no
English
Protestant
,
For
what
is
it
to
be
an
English
Protestant
,
or
a
member
of
the
English
Church
?
This
is
a
question
of
greater
moment
then
ordinarily
is
believed
:
The
very
subsistence
of
Protestant
Religion
in
England
now
depends
upon
the
right
stating
of
it
.
Nay
I
may
truly
say
,
that
even
we
Roman
Catholicks
are
much
concerned
in
it
,
and
therefore
I
may
be
pardoned
if
I
insist
upon
it
;
because
unless
this
question
be
resolved
,
all
our
disputes
with
Protestants
are
likely
to
prove
meer
beating
of
the
air
,
contentions
utterly
wandring
from
the
purpose
.
Therefore
I
may
be
excused
,
if
I
take
the
trouble
upon
me
to
resolve
it
:
and
this
I
must
do
,
not
upon
Catholick
grounds
,
or
notions
of
the
phrase
[
being
members
of
a
Church
]
but
only
the
notions
which
Protestants
and
generally
all
Sects
divided
from
the
Catholicks
have
entertained
of
that
phrase
.
For
Catholicks
do
not
esteem
any
one
a
member
of
the
Roman
Catholick
Church
,
that
doth
not
profess
all
Doctrines
without
exception
taught
by
it
to
be
true
,
and
submits
not
to
all
the
Lawes
and
Ordinances
of
it
.
There
is
no
distinction
to
be
made
,
as
to
this
matter
,
between
Doctrines
in
themselves
Fundamental
or
non-Fundamental
,
between
Lawes
in
themselves
necessary
or
not
:
because
a
refusal
to
accept
any
one
of
those
Lawes
or
Doctrines
does
vertually
destroy
the
Authority
of
the
Church
,
of
how
little
concernment
so
ever
such
a
Doctrine
or
Ordinance
be
in
it self
.
There
may
be
differences
and
even
dissentions
among
Catholicks
,
about
points
of
far
greater
moment
in
themselves
,
and
yet
neither
of
the
parties
be
in
danger
of
being
excluded
from
the
Title
of
Catholiks
,
or
members
of
the
Roman
Catholick
Church
,
because
the
Churches
Authority
has
not
interposed
it self
in
those
disputes
either
way
,
and
therefore
is
untouched
by
either
.
11.
But
generally
all
Congregations
divided
from
the
Catholick
have
a
quite
different
conceit
of
the
Phrase
[
being
Members
of
a
Church
:
]
And
this
conceit
is
either
general
,
or
more
special
.
According
to
the
general
conception
of
that
phrase
they
acknowledge
all
to
be
members
of
their
Church
(
or
rather
co-members
of
the
Church
of
Christ
)
that
do
not
teach
doctrines
or
make
ordinances
excluding
all
right
and
interest
in
the
common
salvation
:
and
thus
English
protestants
esteem
themselves
members
of
the
Catholick
Church
,
and
Lutherans
of
the
Calvinists
Church
,
and
you
Presbyterians
,
Independents
,
&c.
of
the
English
protestant
Church
:
because
they
do
not
deny
a
possibility
of
salvation
to
one
another
notwithstanding
the
differences
among
them
.
12.
The
second
and
more
special
notion
of
the
phrase
[
being
Members
of
a
Church
]
entertained
by
all
particular
Congregations
not
Catholick
,
does
import
an
external
conformity
in
all
Doctrines
without
exception
,
and
all
practises
determined
by
each
congregation
respectively
,
a
renunciation
of
any
excluding
the
refusers
from
an
external
communion
and
participation
of
the
priviledges
of
that
Congregation
,
who
notwithstanding
may
be
acknowledged
to
be
almost
in
as
good
a
condition
as
to
salvation
,
as
those
are
which
exclude
them
from
their
external
Communion
.
Thus
Lutherans
are
not
Calvinists
,
though
they
believe
Calvinists
may
meet
them
in
heaven
,
because
they
will
not
admit
them
to
their
communion
.
Thus
you
Presbyterians
and
Independents
,
&c.
are
no
English
protestants
as
long
as
you
are
Non-Conformists
.
Let
the
differences
between
you
be
never
so
small
[
as
wearing
a
Surplice
,
Kneeling
at
Communion
,
&c.
]
if
these
Ceremonies
be
established
by
Lawes
Ecclesiastical
or
Civil
,
the
non-submission
to
them
is
a
manifest
dividing
from
that
Church
:
and
the
less
considerable
the
quarrels
are
,
the
greater
is
the
guilt
of
those
that
publickly
dispute
or
write
against
that
Church
of
which
they
desire
to
be
thought
members
.
True
it
is
you
would
seem
to
have
some
reason
to
complain
against
the
English
Church
,
if
for
such
trifling
differencies
only
,
they
should
pronounce
you
excommunicated
from
Christs
Mystical
Body
:
(
though
they
must
give
me
leave
to
say
,
That
by
not
doing
so
,
but
acknowledging
your
Congregations
to
be
members
of
the
Church
,
they
do
manifestly
conclude
themselves
guilty
of
Schisme
by
such
a
communication
with
you
,
whom
they
cannot
deny
to
be
Schismaticks
:
)
But
it
would
be
ridiculous
in
you
to
accuse
them
of
Tyranny
for
excluding
you
from
their
External
Communion
,
when
you
your selves
will
not
embrace
it
.
They
do
not
pretend
to
an
Authority
to
oblige
you
in
conscience
to
believe
that
their
Doctrines
are
true
and
their
Ordinances
just
:
but
they
would
be
no
Church
,
they
would
renounce
all
Order
,
if
they
did
not
maintain
the
laws
and
customes
with
so
great
deliberation
,
and
after
so
many
disputes
with
you
,
framed
and
renewed
.
Where
there
is
no
Uniformity
even
in
external
matters
,
there
is
no
Church
,
but
a
Babel
.
If
at
Communion
some
should
sit
,
others
stand
,
others
lye
along
,
(
as
our
Lord
did
)
and
others
kneel
,
if
some
should
be
bare-headed
,
others
with
their
hats
on
,
would
it
looke
like
an
assembly
of
men
that
served
God
?
Therefore
complain
not
,
but
rather
thank
God
and
them
,
if
they
force
not
your
consciences
,
but
permit
you
to
abstain
from
things
you
do
not
like
,
and
to
practice
among
your selves
things
you
like
better
.
But
to
expect
to
be
acknowledged
members
of
a
Church
,
whilst
you
refuse
to
submit
to
the
authority
of
that
Church
in
things
of
themselves
not
evil
,
much
more
whilst
you
write
publickly
against
them
,
is
to
desire
them
not
to
pretend
to
the
name
of
a
Church
.
Therefore
,
I
conclude
,
that
you
Mr.
Bagshaw
are
no
more
a
member
of
the
English
Church
,
then
I
am
:
and
my
proofe
is
this
very
Preface
of
your
Book
that
I
now
write
against
.
Your
saying
that
Episcopacy
is
lawful
,
or
your
being
ordained
by
Bishops
,
signifies
nothing
;
as
long
as
you
disobey
them
,
you
are
none
of
their
subjects
.
13.
However
I
cannot
blame
you
,
if
in
despight
of
English
protestants
themselves
you
will
needs
be
called
English
protestants
.
For
if
being
,
as
really
you
are
,
no
true
members
of
the
English
Church
,
you
were
treated
as
such
,
that
is
,
excluded
from
a
participation
of
the
emoluments
of
it
,
and
obliged
to
a
separated
exercise
of
your
ill-natur'd
Religion
,
two
great
incommodities
would
ensue
to
you
,
and
withal
two
as
proportionably
great
benefits
to
them
,
and
the
whole
Nation
.
14.
For
First
,
What
pittiful
Congregations
would
you
in
a
short
time
appear
to
be
?
At
present
your
numbers
,
especially
in
Cities
and
Towns
are
not
unconsiderable
.
Whereas
,
if
being
no
members
of
the
English
Church
,
you
were
excluded
from
participating
Tithes
,
Benefices
and
other
preferments
,
not
at
all
due
to
you
,
and
had
no
other
maintenance
but
the
Voluntary
contributions
of
your
own
party
,
you
would
quickly
find
that
Party
weary
of
you
,
and
become
rather
content
to
hear
a
sermon
in
the
Church
,
and
wholesome
prayers
in
a
Surplice
,
then
to
pay
so
much
overplus
for
far
worse
stuffe
in
a
parlour
,
from
a
short
cloak
and
no
cassack
.
15.
The
Second
Mortification
thence
flowing
would
be
yet
more
intolerable
.
Hitherto
the
facility
of
Bishops
giving
you
leave
to
call
your selves
English
protestants
and
members
of
their
Church
enables
you
to
defile
their
Churches
by
doing
your
own
businesse
in
them
to
their
great
prejudice
and
danger
.
In
their
pulpits
you
cry
down
Ceremonies
,
you
preach
against
their
government
,
you
sow
sedition
in
the
hearts
of
their
flock
,
you
instill
discontent
against
the
State
:
In
a
word
you
do
all
the
mischief
you
can
,
both
to
it
and
them
.
And
all
this
while
you
enjoy
their
Livings
:
they
maintain
you
to
destroy
them
.
Whereas
if
at
the
charges
of
your
own
patrons
only
you
were
to
preach
and
pray
in
private
parlours
,
your
peculiar
Gifts
in
both
would
quickly
vanish
:
for
there
would
be
no
use
of
rayling
,
and
blowing
up
discontented
passions
in
an
Auditory
,
where
most
of
your
hearers
can
raile
as
well
as
your selves
,
and
are
perhaps
already
more
discontented
:
You
would
lose
the
pleasure
of
gaining
Proselytes
to
your
Faction
;
because
none
will
hear
you
that
are
in
danger
of
being
seduced
.
On
the
contrary
to
your
hearts
torment
you
would
see
even
City-Churches
every
day
more
and
more
filled
with
your
dearest
friends
;
nay
your
own
Stomacks
would
come
down
,
and
for
preferment
,
yea
even
bread
,
you
would
quickly
digest
both
Crosse
and
Surplice
.
16.
Before
I
leave
this
Argument
,
I
would
fain
with
your
permission
propose
a
Question
to
You
,
though
I
fear
the
very
proposal
will
anger
You
,
and
I
do
scarce
hope
for
an
Answer
,
though
if
you
had
a
mind
to
it
,
nothing
is
more
easie
to
be
answered
:
and
in
case
you
reply
to
this
paper
,
remember
,
I
summon
You
not
to
forget
this
question
.
17.
Suppose
then
His
Majesty
and
the
Parliament
should
by
Law
confirme
to
You
the
gratious
promise
from
Breda
,
That
upon
giving
security
not
to
enter
into
practises
to
disturbe
the
publick
peace
,
You
should
not
be
called
in
question
for
matters
of
opinion
,
but
should
have
a
moderate
liberty
to
exercise
your
Religion
at
home
(
or
even
in
Churches
to
your
own
party
only
,
with
prohibition
to
all
good
subjects
to
come
to
your
sermons
)
would
you
be
content
with
such
an
indulgence
and
mercie
from
the
State
?
Would
You
upon
these
termes
engage
to
discontinue
your
sermons
and
prayers
top-ful
of
the
fel
draconum
?
18.
Till
You
answer
this
Question
,
I
will
tell
You
the
Opinion
of
many
that
believe
they
know
Your
temper
well
enough
.
They
do
assure
themselves
you
would
not
:
You
,
I
mean
,
Presbyterians
and
Independents
:
For
as
for
your
natural
brood
,
and
subdivided
Sects
of
Anabaptists
,
Quakers
,
&c.
I
conceive
they
are
more
reasonable
in
this
matter
of
Liberty
of
conscience
.
They
would
be
content
to
serve
God
after
their
fashion
in
their
own
Chambers
,
and
would
maintain
their
own
Ministers
,
and
poor
too
,
paying
withall
the
dues
which
by
Law
belong
to
Parishes
.
Whereas
there
is
but
too
good
ground
to
believe
that
there
is
nothing
more
apprehended
by
You
Presbyterians
and
Independents
,
then
such
an
Indulgence
:
because
that
would
disunite
from
you
all
other
Sects
,
and
make
them
sure
to
the
State
against
You
:
so
that
You
and
your
Friends
would
stand
miserably
and
contemptibly
alone
.
19.
True
it
is
,
you
would
fain
seem
somwhat
inclined
to
a
Conformity
of
your
fashion
,
and
for
that
end
You
demand
Conferences
and
Treaties
with
the
Bishops
,
&c.
But
withall
You
require
a
condescendence
from
them
in
such
things
,
as
both
honour
and
truth
forbid
a
compliance
in
,
and
which
cannot
be
granted
without
a
secret
acknowledgment
that
they
have
been
faulty
hitherto
in
oppressing
You
with
undue
burdens
.
And
as
for
other
trifling
scruples
of
yours
,
You
are
more
troubled
when
they
yield
any
thing
,
then
when
they
refuse
all
.
However
by
such
Treaties
You
gain
this
,
that
among
Vulgar
minds
You
may
sometimes
pass
for
zealous
persons
in
all
things
pertaining
to
God
,
and
withall
no
enemies
to
peace
:
And
besides
;
You
may
have
occasion
thereby
to
complain
yet
more
against
Bishops
,
for
not
submitting
to
your
conditions
,
so
easie
and
reasonable
.
For
alas
!
You
desire
ease
only
in
indifferent
trifling
matters
:
whereas
in
all
necessary
Ordinances
for
Gods
glory
You
are
ready
to
comply
.
What
a
great
matter
,
say
You
,
is
a
Surplice
,
or
refusing
a
Papis●ical
Cross
?
For
peace
sake
You
will
even
digest
Episcopacy
.
Let
there
be
Bishops
,
but
not
jure
Divino
,
or
if
jure
Divino
,
not
such
as
Law
hath
established
.
Let
them
be
countermanded
each
Bishop
by
a
dozen
Presbyters
,
and
subject
to
their
Classes
,
and
you
will
not
stand
upon
the
Title
.
20.
I
dare
say
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
You
are
very
angrie
now
to
be
told
thus
publickly
,
that
you
are
more
afraid
of
Liberty
of
Conscience
then
of
persecution
,
unless
You
might
have
leave
to
interpret
Liberty
of
conscience
,
to
be
a
free
permission
to
do
mischief
,
not
to
serve
God
.
And
much
more
,
to
be
told
,
You
are
no
English
protestant
.
But
You
must
pardon
us
,
that
cannot
but
think
so
,
till
You
tell
the
World
what
You
mean
by
an
English
protestant
,
and
what
that
English
protestancy
is
which
You
professe
and
maintaine
,
and
have
been
so
busie
Twenty
Years
,
almost
to
the
ruine
of
the
Kingdome
,
to
set
up
against
Prelacy
.
II.
That
Mr.
Bagshaw
's
insttilling
supicions
into
the
Peoples
minds
,
as
if
English
Divines
,
&c.
had
a
designe
to
introduce
Popery
again
,
is
a
mere
acting
over
the
late
Rebellion
.
1.
IT
is
now
time
to
take
into
consideration
the
zeal
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
that
You
,
as
a
good
English
Protestant
,
have
shew'd
against
those
that
have
a
liking
to
the
pompe
of
popery
,
and
are
so
hardy
as
to
make
some
attempts
to
bring
it
back
into
your
Church
.
In
this
zeal
You
spare
neither
Gentry
(
including
I
suppose
the
Nobility
)
nor
Clergy
.
2.
First
as
touching
the
Gentry
,
You
tell
the
Kingdom
that
too
many
of
our
unwary
Gentry
begin
already
to
be
taken
with
the
outward
pompe
of
popery
.
Who
are
these
many
,
too
many
?
They
are
Gentlemen
.
The
Gentry
indeed
are
not
so
apt
to
be
wrought
upon
by
You
,
as
Inferiour
Tradesmen
and
day-laborours
:
and
therfore
it
is
much
for
your
purpose
,
that
the
general
rout
should
have
a
suspicion
of
them
.
Well
though
there
be
many
of
them
,
yet
You
name
none
:
whereas
there
are
but
two
of
the
Clergy
,
and
You
name
them
both
.
There
is
some
Mystery
in
this
.
Would
You
not
have
it
believed
,
but
dare
not
speak
out
,
that
these
too
many
Gentlemen
are
some
members
of
the
present
Parliament
,
that
you
covertly
desire
the
Kingdome
may
suspect
,
and
have
an
ill
opinion
of
,
because
they
will
not
,
in
compliance
with
your
slovenly
devotion
,
suffer
you
to
burne
Surplices
and
Copes
,
or
abrogate
decent
Ceremonies
?
but
much
more
because
several
Honourable
persons
among
them
have
expressed
some
pity
to
Roman
Catholicks
,
and
an
inclination
to
requite
their
fidelity
with
some
small
ease
from
the
heavy
burdens
laid
on
them
by
the
Lawes
?
It
is
a
greater
torment
to
You
to
see
their
Fidelity
rewarded
,
then
their
Religion
not
persecuted
.
But
it
is
intolerable
to
you
,
that
no
good
Christian
now
can
be
unsatisfied
in
the
way
that
Roman
Catholicks
have
taken
to
appear
fit
objects
of
mercy
,
since
they
have
both
publickly
in
the
house
of
Lords
Vivâ
voce
,
and
by
many
Treatises
and
Protestations
in
writing
given
such
security
of
their
unalterable
Loyalty
and
Obedience
to
his
Majestie
,
and
the
State
,
as
not
any
Christian
can
possibly
give
greater
,
and
I
much
fear
You
will
never
have
the
honesty
to
imitate
them
.
3.
Observe
one
thing
I
pray
You
,
in
such
Protestations
and
writings
of
Roman
Catholicks
.
They
do
not
deprecate
any
former
faults
committed
,
because
they
are
guiltie
of
none
:
they
protest
their
clearness
from
those
crimes
of
a
few
desperate
unhappy
monsters
,
and
writings
of
their
traiterous
Masters
,
that
occasioned
the
severity
of
Laws
against
all
:
They
do
not
mention
their
universal
fidelitie
to
the
King
these
last
twentie
Years
,
as
an
obligation
or
merit
,
for
which
they
expect
reward
from
men
:
but
as
a
necessary
duty
to
which
their
Religion
bound
them
,
and
which
if
they
had
not
performed
,
they
should
have
incurred
a
curse
from
God
.
Yet
all
this
perhaps
will
not
satisfie
You.
But
see
our
different
Complexion
:
for
my
part
though
there
were
not
one
of
Your
(
supposed
)
Religion
,
but
were
deeply
ingaged
in
infidelity
to
the
King
,
yet
if
You
would
only
acknowledg
that
a
fault
was
committed
,
is
repented
of
,
and
a
promise
made
of
Loyalty
for
the
future
,
I
should
hope
well
,
and
wish
You
might
be
believed
and
confided
in
for
the
future
.
4.
Next
as
to
the
Clergy
,
Your
accusation
I
need
not
plead
for
the
not
persecuting
of
Poperie
,
&c.
when
some
that
yet
professe
themselves
to
be
of
our
Church
,
and
those
of
good
note
too
,
are
not
afraid
to
plead
for
somthing
more
then
its
Toleration
.
Since
by
telling
us
in
print
,
that
the
Pope
is
not
in
Weights
and
Measures
.
Antichrist
,
That
Papists
are
not
Idolaters
;
nay
by
affirming
,
That
all
are
schismaticks
who
upon
that
score
do
refuse
communion
with
them
,
they
not
only
blemish
the
vertue
and
piety
of
our
first
Reformers
,
who
all
built
upon
that
foundation
,
but
likewise
shew
how
willing
they
are
upon
any
termes
how
wretched
and
unworthie
soever
,
to
returne
into
Egypt
,
and
bring
us
to
our
Brick
and
bondage
again
.
If
this
be
not
the
interest
of
some
,
I
cannot
imagine
what
means
the
crying
up
of
that
Great
Diana
of
the
Papists
,
the
Churches
Authority
,
and
making
that
the
sole
Interpreter
of
Scripture
,
The
M.
Thorndike
ut
suprà
.
both
to
express
scripture
,
and
an
Act
of
Parliament
.
The
insinuating
,
that
we
may
lawfully
pray
for
the
dead
,
and
likewise
expect
some
benefit
by
their
prayers
,
which
in
time
may
easily
be
improved
to
our
praying
unto
them
.
These
with
some
other
opinions
of
the
like
nature
,
so
far
degenerating
from
our
primitive
protestancy
,
do
shew
that
if
the
Age
is
willing
to
be
deceived
,
there
are
not
wanting
learned
men
who
are
willing
enough
to
deceive
them
.
5.
This
authority
that
You
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
take
upon
You
to
proscribe
all
protestants
that
dare
not
profess
such
a
detestation
of
Catholick
Vnity
as
Your
party
does
,
is
alone
sufficient
to
demonstrate
how
much
the
English
Clergy
does
neglect
their
own
preservation
,
whilst
they
permit
such
as
You
to
call
your selves
protestants
,
and
members
of
their
Church
:
your
waies
and
interests
being
so
directry
opposed
to
theirs
.
6.
All
England
almost
has
lately
heard
Archbishop
of
Canterbury
.
laid
to
the
charge
of
the
late
most
unjustly
murdered
Archbishop
of
Canterbury
,
as
the
most
heavy
point
of
his
accusation
,
that
he
had
a
desire
of
restoring
England
to
Catholick
unity
.
Yet
there
was
not
produced
any
proof
at
all
,
that
for
that
end
he
deserted
any
necessarie
and
essential
Doctrines
of
his
own
Church
:
the
mere
desire
of
unity
was
his
crime
.
A
crime
that
he
willingly
acknowledged
,
and
as
he
had
reason
joyfullie
boasted
of
.
And
certainly
,
that
Christian
must
needs
be
full
of
a
Spirit
not
from
heaven
,
that
hates
unitie
,
quatenus
ipsam
.
Now
,
what
my
Lord
Archbishop
desired
,
and
died
for
,
I
am
perswaded
there
is
scarce
any
true
genuine
English
protestant
but
does
commend
in
him
,
and
would
not
refuse
,
occasion
being
given
,
to
imitate
him
in
.
7.
If
you
read
Bishop
Andrews
his
works
both
English
and
Latine
,
You
Pentecost
:
Who
shall
make
us
of
one
accord
?
High
shall
his
reward
be
in
heaven
,
and
happy
his
remembrance
on
earth
,
that
shall
be
the
means
to
restore
this
accord
to
the
Church
;
that
once
we
may
keep
a
true
and
perfect
Pentecost
,
like
this
here
,
Erant
omnes
unanimiter
.
It
was
a
restoring
of
unity
that
he
so
much
thirsted
after
:
which
word
shewes
,
that
he
had
a
respect
to
the
Catholick
Church
from
which
only
a
separation
was
made
.
8.
And
Doctour
Steward
likewise
,
a
person
as
replenished
with
learning
,
prudence
9.
These
wothy
persons
were
indeed
English
protestants
,
like
those
You
now
arraign
.
They
knew
the
true
composition
of
their
own
Chuch
:
A
Church
,
though
I
must
needs
say
,
not
firmly
built
yet
however
erected
by
advice
of
persons
in
Authority
,
persons
of
honour
and
judgment
:
not
as
Geneva
,
Holland
,
and
Cromwels
Independent
Church
,
by
a
rebellious
Army
of
Tradesmen
.
They
knew
that
at
the
first
framing
of
the
English
Church
a
way
was
not
so
wholly
given
to
passion
,
but
that
when
certain
interests
of
a
few
great
persons
were
complied
with
,
and
several
too
justly
complained
of
Gravamina
from
the
Roman
Court
remedied
,
there
might
be
a
possibility
of
closing
again
with
that
Church
which
they
then
only
so
far
deserted
.
They
knew
there
was
never
any
intention
so
to
forsake
the
Roman
Church
,
as
if
it
were
a
Babel
,
or
seat
of
Antichrist
,
but
ever
acknowledged
it
a
true
Church
,
though
not
so
well
Reformed
.
On
the
contrarie
they
knew
,
and
their
successors
do
still
to
your
hearts
torment
acknowledg
,
that
all
the
Ordination
and
spiritual
Jurisdiction
of
the
English
Church
is
derived
from
the
Roman
:
which
therefore
must
be
a
true
Church
if
theirs
be
any
.
10.
Upon
such
grounds
as
these
,
no
question
,
my
Lord
Archbishop
of
Canterbury
not
only
desired
,
as
all
honest
well
minded
Protestants
do
,
but
also
hoped
,
that
if
by
his
authority
and
skill
he
could
reduce
the
English
church
to
that
primitive
State
before
your
Calvinistical
dregs
and
poison
were
instilled
into
it
,
he
might
,
upon
warrantable
terms
,
procure
a
Re-union
with
the
Catholick
Church
.
But
how
should
this
Re-union
be
made
?
By
giving
up
to
Roman
Catholicks
all
the
points
of
English
Doctrins
and
Discipline
?
No
such
matter
.
But
this
he
knew
,
That
in
Books
of
Controversy
,
among
ten
Points
disputed
,
there
are
not
two
wherein
either
of
the
Churches
are
interested
:
and
that
most
of
the
few
,
real
,
Substantial
differences
might
be
qualified
by
a
moderate
interpretation
and
condescendence
.
11.
But
whensoever
such
a
business
as
this
is
either
agitated
or
talked
of
,
you
Mr.
Bagshaw
and
your
party
smile
,
and
deride
us
poor
Roman
Catholicks
,
as
if
we
vainly
framed
to
our selves
great
hopes
and
advantages
by
such
good
Christian
designes
,
or
Writings
of
Protestants
.
But
truly
you
are
deceived
.
We
indeed
,
as
we
ought
,
are
glad
,
purely
for
their
sakes
that
either
designe
or
write
sincerely
and
ingenuously
in
matters
of
Religion
.
But
such
designs
and
Writings
are
harmeful
to
us
in
our
present
condition
:
and
the
reason
is
plain
:
because
they
being
the
works
of
particular
persons
without
any
publick
commission
;
of
persons
that
have
no
sufficient
influence
upon
the
whole
English
Church
and
State
,
they
produce
little
effect
:
On
the
contrary
they
give
only
an
opportunity
to
such
malicious
tongues
and
pens
as
Yours
to
Alarme
the
whole
Kingdome
both
against
them
and
us
.
12.
But
if
it
would
please
his
sacred
Majestie
or
the
Parliament
to
allow
a
modest
Conference
(
not
Dispute
)
between
a
certain
number
of
sober
learned
English
Protestants
and
Catholicks
,
by
means
of
which
a
clear
view
might
be
given
what
the
peculiar
Doctrines
by
Authority
established
on
both
sides
are
,
and
what
place
may
be
allowed
for
moderate
Interpretations
and
Condescensions
,
in
all
probability
the
success
could
not
but
be
most
happy
:
the
whole
Kingdome
,
yea
all
Christendom
would
stand
in
a
maze
to
see
what
an
inestimable
blessing
has
been
so
long
wanting
to
England
,
and
how
little
cause
there
was
it
should
be
refused
.
How
would
the
Civil
and
Ecclesiastical
State
of
these
nations
be
established
and
united
in
interests
with
all
the
Christian
world
almost
?
How
free
should
we
all
be
from
the
least
danger
of
being
infected
with
the
venom
of
Sectaries
,
and
how
secure
from
their
designes
?
For
then
they
would
to
all
eyes
appear
in
their
distinct
bodies
:
it
would
be
seen
who
,
how
many
,
and
how
qualified
they
are
:
and
permission
being
allowed
them
for
a
private
liberty
of
exercising
their
Religions
respectively
,
any
succeeding
tumults
would
be
both
easily
repressed
,
and
their
cause
appear
inexcusable
.
In
a
word
Religion
as
it
might
by
common
Advice
be
setled
in
this
Kingdom
,
would
deserve
to
be
the
envy
and
pattern
to
all
the
world
besides
,
being
easily
freed
from
many
abuses
much
complained
of
,
but
hard
to
be
rectified
in
other
Catholick
Countries
.
13.
And
whence
comes
the
obstruction
to
so
inconceivable
and
universal
a
blessing
as
this
,
but
meerly
from
such
,
English
Protestants
as
You
and
Your
partie
are
permitted
to
call
your selves
.
From
You
it
proceeds
that
the
Ecclesiasticks
of
this
Kingdom
have
not
hitherto
so
much
as
endeavoured
to
convert
us
Roman
Catholicks
to
their
Religion
:
They
have
been
unwilling
to
be
informed
what
the
true
Differences
between
us
and
themselves
are
.
As
if
true
Reformed
Religion
did
formally
consist
in
a
blind
,
heady
,
and
voluntary
breach
of
Unity
with
all
Churches
before
them
.
They
have
condescended
to
admit
conferences
with
Sects
,
whose
peculiar
complexion
consisting
in
an
incompossibility
with
their
government
renders
them
irreconcileable
,
unless
they
yield
up
both
their
Faith
and
Estates
.
Yea
for
such
Enemies
satisfaction
(
if
any
thing
could
satisfie
them
)
they
have
submitted
to
alterations
even
in
their
Church
office
and
Discipline
.
Lastly
to
content
such
English
Protestants
as
You
,
they
have
connived
at
your
defiling
,
altering
and
destroying
that
which
heretofore
was
called
,
and
by
Law
still
is
truly
the
English
Protestant
Religion
:
As
will
appear
even
by
what
You
are
suffered
here
to
write
against
eminent
persons
of
their
Church
.
14.
You
proscribe
and
expose
to
publick
hatred
Doctour
Gunning
and
Master
that
would
seduce
English
subjects
to
Popery
.
And
what
are
your
Proofs
?
Forsooth
Doctour
Gunning
has
preached
before
the
King
,
and
since
printed
,
and
beyond
your
skill
to
disprove
,
has
demonstrated
that
the
Lent
fast
is
an
Apostolical
Institution
.
Where
lies
the
Popery
?
It
is
,
You
say
,
against
express
scripture
.
But
is
it
therefore
popery
?
Do
no
Sects
contradict
express
Scripture
but
Roman
Catholicks
?
Behold
the
natural
Logick
of
a
Fanatick
.
However
,
let
this
express
scripture
be
produc'd
.
Non
liquet
,
either
in
your
Text
or
Margin
.
Well
at
least
,
say
You
,
it
is
against
an
Act
of
Parliament
.
Let
me
ask
You
and
Your
fellowes
a
Question
.
Will
You
be
content
to
stand
to
all
Acts
of
Parliament
,
both
as
to
their
Prefaces
and
Clauses
,
as
Declarations
of
Faith
:
and
this
under
the
penalty
of
being
esteemed
Papists
:
Then
I
here
denounce
You
a
Papist
:
For
has
not
the
whole
Liturgy
and
Discipline
of
the
English
Church
been
ratified
by
Acts
of
parliament
?
But
what
will
You
say
to
an
Act
of
Parliament
that
has
declared
,
and
like
a
Heretick
burnt
Your
Covenant
as
a
damned
,
trayterous
conspiracie
?
Take
heed
therefore
You
be
not
found
your self
a
papist
.
As
for
the
Lent
fast
,
You
know
that
by
the
Lawes
of
the
Kingdom
Bishops
are
appointed
the
exacters
and
dispensers
of
the
Observance
of
Lent
:
which
shewes
it
to
be
esteemed
an
Ecclesiastical
observance
as
well
as
Civil
,
So
that
I
believe
Dr.
Gunning
is
in
little
danger
from
your
charge
.
15.
God
send
Mr.
Thorndike
as
good
a
deliverance
:
For
his
Charge
consists
he
tells
us
in
print
that
the
Pope
is
not
Antichrist
.
Item
,
That
Papists
are
not
Idolaters
.
Item
by
consequence
,
that
all
are
Schismaticks
who
upon
that
score
do
refuse
Communion
with
them
.
These
are
terrible
points
against
good
Mr.
Thorndike
:
Yet
,
alas
,
not
all
his
popery
neither
.
16.
A
time
was
when
such
as
You
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
could
both
undoe
and
destroy
English
subjects
meerly
upon
an
accusation
of
Popery
,
without
proofe
.
God
be
thanked
it
is
otherwise
now
.
Therefore
You
ought
at
least
to
have
produced
some
proofes
that
these
Assertions
are
direct
popery
.
But
not
having
done
it
:
let
me
advise
you
what
kind
of
proofes
will
be
expected
.
You
must
know
therefore
that
it
is
a
Law
of
the
English
Church
,
that
whatsoever
is
found
in
the
Antient
Canons
,
and
is
not
expressly
revoked
by
Ecclesiastical
Authority
in
England
,
is
to
be
esteemed
still
in
force
.
And
common
sence
and
reason
will
tell
you
,
that
before
you
can
by
such
allegations
as
these
prove
any
one
to
have
deserted
the
English
Churches
doctrine
,
and
be
turned
a
papist
,
you
must
produce
some
Authentick
Declaration
of
this
Church
by
which
the
Pope
is
decided
to
be
Antichrist
,
and
the
Papists
,
Idolaters
.
But
that
is
impossible
for
you
to
do
.
You
will
perhaps
,
to
little
purpose
,
cite
the
names
of
certain
Calvinistical
Writers
,
that
,
as
you
,
hypocritically
called
themselves
English
Protestants
:
but
withall
you
will
take
notice
that
all
very
Protestants
have
laughed
at
them
,
some
have
been
angry
,
and
demonstrated
the
direct
Negative
.
If
you
were
a
live
member
of
the
English
Church
,
you
would
know
that
the
English
Church
would
be
no
Church
if
the
Pope
were
Antichrist
,
and
the
Papists
,
Idolaters
.
For
would
you
acknowledg
that
to
be
a
Church
that
enjoyes
her
whole
Authority
and
Jurisdiction
from
Antichrist
and
Idolaters
?
Is
she
not
rather
a
member
and
abortive
of
Antichrist
?
This
is
plain
reason
Mr.
Bagshaw
:
and
consequently
the
inference
is
undeniable
,
That
all
are
schismaticks
who
upon
that
score
do
refuse
communion
with
the
Roman
Church
.
17.
You
proceed
against
Mr.
Thorndike
,
He
insinuates
,
say
you
,
that
we
may
lawfully
pray
for
the
Dead
.
Your
proof
,
I
told
you
,
that
this
is
against
Protestancy
,
must
be
to
shew
where
the
English
Church
has
repealed
the
Antient
Canons
commanding
Prayer
for
the
Dead
.
That
will
be
a
hard
task
.
On
the
contrary
You
your selves
object
against
the
Common-Prayer-Book
that
there
is
a
clause
in
it
,
that
not
only
insinuates
it
to
be
lawful
,
but
actually
exercises
prayer
for
the
dead
.
And
you
know
that
within
the
time
of
the
four
first
General
Counsels
(
received
in
England
)
above
twelve
hundred
years
ago
your
Progenitors
were
by
the
Universal
Church
declared
Hereticks
for
denying
it
.
Yea
moreover
that
there
was
never
extant
any
Liturgy
or
Missal
in
the
Church
of
Christ
,
Eastern
or
Western
,
wherein
there
were
not
prayers
for
the
dead
.
18.
You
go
on
.
Mr.
Thorndike
against
the
Doctrine
of
the
Church
of
England
saies
,
That
we
may
expect
some
benefit
by
the
prayers
of
souls
departed
(
I
suppose
,
holy
soules
are
meant
.
)
Where
does
the
Church
of
England
contradict
this
?
nay
more
,
except
you
will
acknowledg
your self
to
be
a
Socinian
,
and
deny
that
the
souls
of
dead
persons
have
any
subsistence
at
all
with
perception
,
and
use
of
rational
faculties
,
you
your self
will
not
be
so
shameless
as
to
deny
what
you
here
lay
to
Mr.
Thorndikes
charge
.
For
I
know
none
that
call
themselves
Christians
,
except
Socinians
,
but
acknowledg
that
the
glorified
Saints
do
pray
at
least
in
general
for
the
Church
Militant
.
Now
if
they
all
do
pray
for
us
all
,
will
you
not
permit
us
to
expect
some
benefit
by
their
prayers
?
Must
we
maintain
that
all
their
prayers
are
to
no
purpose
?
O
but
you
infer
,
That
this
in
time
may
easily
be
improved
to
our
praying
unto
them
.
As
for
this
inference
which
is
not
your
defendants
,
but
only
your
own
,
give
me
leave
to
tell
you
:
That
if
you
believe
that
the
Saints
pray
for
the
Church
in
general
,
it
would
be
no
hard
matter
by
one
Syllogisme
to
oblige
you
to
acknowledge
that
we
may
pray
to
God
that
he
would
hear
and
grant
their
prayers
,
making
them
beneficial
to
us
.
And
now
search
all
the
Solemn
Offices
and
Missals
of
the
Roman
Church
mark
the
prayers
that
occurrs
every
Saints
Feast
,
you
will
find
no
other
formes
but
such
as
that
:
The
prayer
is
alwayes
directed
to
God
alone
immediately
,
and
he
is
desired
to
grant
us
such
and
such
blessings
by
the
intercession
of
such
Saints
.
And
if
in
less
solemne
Devotions
,
as
Litanies
,
Antiphons
,
&c.
we
say
,
Sancte
Maria
,
Sancte
Michael
,
Sancte
Petre
,
ora
pro
nobis
:
we
are
by
the
Church
obliged
to
no
other
meaning
then
as
before
:
and
we
imitate
express
Scripture
,
Laudate
Deum
omnes
Angeli
ejus
,
omnes
Sancti
ejus
,
&c.
Cardinal
Perron
will
assure
you
that
our
prayers
to
Saints
is
only
prier
pour
prier
,
a
devout
wishing
that
they
would
pray
for
us
:
And
truly
for
my
part
I
do
heartily
wish
all
the
Saints
in
heaven
to
intercede
in
their
prayers
with
God
,
that
he
would
vouchsafe
to
give
you
(
and
us
all
)
a
sincere
love
both
to
truth
and
peace
.
19.
I
have
reserved
your
most
criminal
charge
till
the
last
,
which
you
thus
express
,
If
it
be
not
the
intent
of
some
to
returne
into
Aegypt
,
I
cannot
imagine
what
means
the
crying
up
of
that
great
Diana
of
the
Papists
,
the
Churches
authority
,
and
making
that
the
sole
interpreter
of
Scripture
.
What
Religion
can
you
possibly
be
of
,
and
talk
thus
?
You
in
your
own
person
,
standing
alone
,
are
not
a
Church
.
If
you
be
but
one
member
of
a
Church
,
what
ever
it
be
,
as
long
as
you
are
so
,
you
are
subject
to
it
,
it
must
have
Authority
over
you
:
the
Spirit
of
one
Prophet
must
be
subject
to
an
assembly
of
Prophets
are
you
an
Independent
?
much
freedom
is
implyed
in
that
Title
:
yet
I
believe
your
Lay
Church
will
think
it
has
authority
enough
to
oblige
you
not
to
interpret
Scripture
for
the
advantage
of
that
court
of
Inquisition
,
the
Classes
of
the
Presbytery
.
Are
you
a
Presbyterian
?
Your
private
reason
shall
be
yoaked
and
chained
with
bonds
strong
enough
,
and
heavy
enough
to
keep
it
from
stirring
to
the
prejudice
of
the
Holy
brethren
and
Sisters
.
But
you
will
needs
call
your self
an
English
Protestant
,
and
yet
will
dare
to
revile
all
the
Authority
in
your
Church
,
boldly
protesting
that
it
shall
not
interpret
Scripture
for
you
:
Your
private
reason
shall
over-master
it
.
Unless
it
confesse
it self
to
be
no
Church
,
that
is
,
to
have
no
Authority
to
oblige
its
members
to
receive
the
sence
of
scripture
from
her
,
you
will
be
revenged
by
bellowing
aloud
This
is
the
crying
up
of
the
great
Diana
of
the
Papists
.
Truly
I
must
needs
say
,
the
Church
of
England
is
a
very
patient
Church
,
if
she
suffer
you
to
speak
this
Bedlam
language
and
injoy
a
Benefice
too
.
20.
But
you
do
well
,
though
you
mean
very
ill
,
when
you
call
this
the
Diana
of
the
Papists
:
Since
you
imply
that
a
true
obliging
Authority
,
if
any
where
,
can
only
be
found
in
the
Catholick
Church
.
As
for
Sects
that
have
no
Succession
of
Ordination
for
such
to
assume
Authority
and
Jurisdiction
in
matters
of
Religion
,
is
ridiculous
even
to
common
sence
:
for
it
implies
,
that
to
be
men
which
have
an
ordinary
use
of
reason
,
is
a
sufficient
qualification
to
become
Ecclesiastical
Teachers
and
Governours
.
The
Clergy
of
England
challenging
a
lawful
Ordination
,
have
some
pretension
to
a
real
Authority
:
and
if
they
could
justify
themselves
free
from
the
guilt
of
Schisme
,
even
we
Roman
Catholicks
could
not
deny
but
their
Authority
would
oblige
in
conscience
,
and
under
the
penaltie
of
damnation
,
because
then
it
would
be
an
Authority
participating
that
of
the
whole
Catholick
Church
,
and
acting
in
union
with
it
But
of
this
somewhat
more
in
the
last
part
of
this
Discourse
.
21.
I
do
apprehend
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
that
if
you
make
any
reply
to
this
,
you
will
,
instead
of
speaking
to
the
purpose
,
endeavour
to
aggravate
the
cause
of
Doctour
Gunning
and
Mr.
Thorndike
,
by
saying
at
adventure
,
that
there
is
a
secret
intelligence
between
the
Papists
and
them
,
and
that
they
do
mutually
maintain
one
anothers
quarrells
.
On
the
other
side
I
am
not
without
suspicion
that
some
even
of
my
own
belief
and
Church
,
will
think
that
it
did
not
become
a
Catholike
to
busy
himself
with
justifying
the
writings
of
protestants
,
especially
when
he
endeavours
to
shew
that
such
Writers
are
no
Catholicks
,
though
the
particular
points
taught
by
them
be
real
Catholick
verities
.
22.
Now
to
both
these
I
must
say
,
that
I
never
had
the
happiness
to
know
or
see
either
Doctour
Gunning
or
Mr.
Thorndike
:
never
was
there
any
message
or
intelligence
between
us
.
But
my
only
Motive
to
write
as
I
have
done
,
was
to
comply
with
that
precept
of
God
(
Pacem
&
veritatem
diligite
)
Love
peace
and
Truth
.
As
a
true
faithful
English
subject
,
I
could
not
see
so
professed
a
disturber
of
peace
without
reproving
him
.
As
a
catholick
I
could
never
hope
(
what
I
am
bound
to
desire
and
aim
at
)
that
both
truth
and
peace
would
find
admittance
into
England
by
any
endeavours
either
of
Protestants
or
Catholicks
till
it
was
apparent
what
the
true
grounds
of
our
separation
are
:
and
this
never
will
be
known
till
other
Sects
be
made
to
blush
,
when
they
impudently
and
perniciously
both
to
the
Church
and
State
,
call
themselves
English
protestants
,
and
pretend
to
be
judges
of
what
is
to
be
esteemed
in
the
English
Church
Catholick
Doctrine
.
23.
Therefore
for
a
conclusion
of
this
argument
touching
your
charge
against
Dr.
Gunning
and
Mr.
Thorndike
,
I
will
once
more
protest
,
that
unless
either
the
Civil
or
Ecclesiastical
Authority
do
in
time
provide
against
such
writers
as
you
,
the
whole
Kingdom
in
a
very
short
space
will
be
in
iminent
danger
to
become
a
mere
Babel
.
For
if
it
shall
be
permitted
to
such
men
,
to
defame
any
English
Doctour
or
Writer
that
shall
not
conspire
in
all
the
furious
positions
of
Presbyterians
,
Independents
,
&c.
against
the
Catholick
Church
,
there
will
not
be
a
Bishop
or
sober
Divine
in
England
that
will
not
be
at
your
mercy
,
both
for
his
fame
and
subsistence
,
nay
his
life
also
,
when
you
can
either
raise
a
tumult
,
or
which
is
more
dreadful
,
a
new
Tribunal
of
Justice
.
III.
That
Mr.
Bagshaws
attempt
to
render
only
the
Roman
Catholick
Subjects
,
in
an
incapacity
of
Toleration
is
in
it self
most
groundless
,
and
in
his
mouth
most
ridiculously
malicious
.
1.
WEE
poor
Roman
Catholicks
could
not
but
be
strangely
surprised
to
see
such
a
Protestant
of
the
Church
of
England
,
as
you
Mr.
Bagshaw
are
,
to
become
our
Advocat
,
and
to
beg
our
pardon
saying
,
How
ill
an
opinion
soever
I
have
both
of
the
Papists
Religion
,
2.
What
a
kind
wish
is
here
,
and
a
reason
for
it
truly
unanswerable
?
Indeed
here
is
Charity
,
a
point
too
high
to
be
believed
sincere
.
Therefore
to
the
end
your
Charity
may
be
rational
,
do
not
deprecate
the
inflicting
of
all
punishment
upon
any
,
if
you
can
indeed
prove
that
by
the
Principles
of
their
Religion
they
are
obliged
to
inflict
the
like
punishment
on
others
.
As
for
our
Principles
,
we
protest
unto
you
they
are
very
innocent
in
this
point
.
Laws
indeed
have
oft
been
made
in
Catholick
Countries
very
severe
against
those
that
the
Church
calls
Hereticks
.
But
they
are
none
of
the
Churches
laws
:
they
were
not
enacted
by
Ecclesiasticks
but
by
Civil
Governours
only
.
You
know
that
by
the
Canons
of
the
Church
ever
in
force
,
the
Clergy
under
penalty
of
Irregularity
are
forbidden
to
have
any
hand
,
either
by
Counsel
or
otherwise
,
in
blood
.
And
whatsoever
Laws
have
been
or
shall
be
made
by
Catholick
Civil
Governours
,
especially
such
as
reach
to
blood
,
if
the
Motive
of
them
hath
been
pure
Opinions
of
the
Understanding
,
not
prejudicial
to
Government
,
or
any
thing
except
a
prudent
mean
to
prevent
Sedition
or
Rebellions
justly
apprehended
,
we
assure
you
they
are
not
made
by
the
Principles
of
Catholick
Religion
,
but
against
them
.
3.
You
will
object
the
Spanish
Inquisition
.
But
withall
be
pleased
to
consider
,
that
almost
all
the
Catholick
Kingdoms
in
Europe
besides
do
abhorr
the
cruelty
of
that
Inquisition
,
and
have
often
declared
they
will
suffer
the
utmost
extremities
,
rather
than
admit
it
.
4.
This
Charity
of
yours
therefore
was
too
excessive
to
be
long-liv'd
,
or
deserving
to
be
esteem'd
sincere
:
for
you
presently
repent
and
revoke
it
,
whilst
immediatly
after
you
add
,
I
must
confess
there
are
two
things
which
do
much
difference
the
case
of
the
Papists
from
that
of
any
other
Religious
Sect
5.
How
was
it
possible
for
one
that
wrote
this
cruel
passage
,
not
presently
to
blot
out
what
with
the
same
ink
he
had
written
immediatly
before
?
The
King
and
State
are
little
beholding
to
you
,
when
you
wish
that
may
be
done
,
which
is
both
very
unsafe
and
unwarrantable
:
and
besides
,
that
may
be
done
for
Roman
Catholicks
,
which
you
say
are
the
only
Religous
Sect
in
the
World
,
which
it
is
both
very
unsafe
and
unwarrantable
to
tolerate
:
you
except
not
even
the
Fifth-Monarchists
,
whose
Religion
forbids
subjection
to
all
Civil
Governours
whatsoever
,
and
commands
by
Fire
and
Sword
to
erect
their
new
spiritual
Kingdom
of
Christ
,
which
is
to
last
a
thousand
years
.
Let
but
Papists
be
excluded
,
and
all
the
monsters
of
Egypt
are
welcom
to
Mr.
Bagshaw
:
Yet
he
must
know
that
if
there
had
been
no
Papists
in
the
World
,
no
other
Sect
among
us
had
ever
heard
of
Christ
.
Behold
the
mercies
of
a
Presbyterian
(
or
Independent
,
I
know
not
whether
)
how
cruel
they
are
.
6.
And
all
this
he
writes
to
prevent
the
benignity
of
Protestants
,
which
he
suspects
may
in
some
measure
be
extended
as
well
to
Roman
Catholicks
that
suffered
with
them
,
as
to
his
own
party
that
still
grieve
they
had
not
swallowed
up
both
.
He
forgets
what
a
converted
criminal
(
as
if
it
were
some
honest
Anabaptist
,
or
Quaker
,
one
that
had
been
,
but
now
is
no
longer
,
a
murderer
and
seditious
person
)
said
to
his
obdurat
companion
,
Dost
thou
not
fear
God
,
since
thou
art
in
the
same
condemnation
?
And
we
indeed
justly
:
But
these
Men
what
have
they
done
?
But
we
should
not
much
apprehend
that
his
perswasion
should
prevail
with
persons
that
sure
should
now
know
us
both
,
were
it
not
that
(
by
what
unlucky
star
we
are
ignorant
)
a
perswasion
has
entred
the
minds
of
not
a
few
among
them
,
that
there
is
a
secret
intelligence
and
Union
of
interests
between
Roman
Catholicks
and
all
our
Sects
,
even
to
Fanaticks
,
and
that
they
do
all
joyntly
conspire
against
Protestants
.
This
opinion
is
imbibed
by
persons
of
prudence
,
and
otherwise
well
disposed
to
contribute
to
the
ease
and
comfort
of
Catholicks
,
were
it
not
that
the
proofs
of
this
accusation
are
said
to
be
unanswerable
.
Many
Priests
say
they
,
are
known
to
have
been
busie
in
Cromwels
Army
:
and
even
of
late
some
Catholicks
have
sided
with
Presbyterians
,
&c.
7.
Now
what
is
left
for
distressed
Roman-Catholicks
to
do
in
this
case
?
Protestations
and
Oaths
to
the
contrary
,
will
not
serve
.
Writings
of
this
nature
,
if
they
be
read
by
such
,
are
slighted
.
Quid
verba
audimus
(
say
they
)
cum
facta
videmus
?
But
if
they
see
them
,
let
the
state
see
them
too
:
Let
some
delinquents
be
produced
.
No
:
yet
the
thing
is
certainly
true
.
But
how
comes
this
ttuth
known
to
Protestants
?
Have
the
Sectaries
discovered
it
?
It
is
hard
that
their
testimony
should
be
taken
:
and
though
their
professed
hatred
be
notorious
,
it
is
unlikely
they
would
forfeit
their
priviledge
by
the
Act
of
Indemnity
,
meerly
to
do
mischief
to
others
.
Are
they
Catholicks
that
have
discovered
this
?
They
may
easily
be
brought
to
a
tryal
:
no
Troops
need
be
employed
to
apprehend
them
.
And
an
unanswerable
way
of
justifying
the
past
severity
of
the
State
against
us
all
,
would
be
the
arraignment
of
them
,
in
case
they
can
accuse
any
that
have
instilled
unlawful
principles
or
encouragements
into
them
.
If
all
the
several
bodies
of
Ecclesiasticks
be
not
able
to
justifie
both
their
Religion
and
practise
,
we
renounce
all
mercy
.
But
let
it
be
granted
that
some
Priests
were
in
Cromwells
Army
:
who
were
they
?
Either
sensual
Apostates
,
or
I
am
loath
to
say
who
,
and
they
perhaps
with
a
mind
to
serve
the
King
:
Or
in
case
it
should
happen
,
as
possibly
it
may
,
that
three
or
four
rash
persons
,
out
of
a
tender
affection
and
devotion
to
one
party
among
Catholicks
,
whose
exclusion
they
fear
,
to
prevent
that
,
should
enter
into
any
practise
without
commission
even
of
that
party
it self
,
hoping
that
such
an
Act
of
theirs
would
be
imputed
to
all
Catholicks
,
and
by
that
means
hinder
their
Friends
from
being
treated
more
severely
then
all
the
rest
;
would
not
Justice
it self
complain
,
if
even
that
party
should
suffer
for
the
rash
misdemeanours
of
a
few
:
but
Justice
would
forsake
the
earth
,
if
all
the
whole
innocent
body
should
be
made
a
sacrifice
for
a
crime
so
committed
.
It
is
a
hard
condition
we
are
in
:
We
actually
suffer
as
if
we
were
guilty
of
a
crime
,
and
are
forced
to
guess
what
that
crime
(
utterly
unknown
to
our selves
)
can
be
supposed
to
be
.
All
that
can
be
said
in
the
present
circumstances
must
be
,
That
if
in
reality
we
can
be
proved
deservedly
obnoxious
to
a
condemnation
upon
this
charge
,
both
the
present
and
future
Age
ought
to
stigmatize
us
and
our
memories
,
as
persons
not
only
in
the
highest
degree
criminal
,
but
as
such
who
in
a
blind
frenzy
,
after
they
had
by
suffering
all
extremities
from
powerful
enemies
twenty
Years
together
for
their
Soveraign
,
obtained
a
sufficient
reward
in
being
esteemed
by
him
constantly
Loyal
Subjects
,
and
(
as
their
hopes
were
)
had
withal
sufficiently
freed
their
Religion
from
the
scandal
of
infidelitie
:
afterwards
when
his
Majesty
was
restored
to
his
power
,
and
treated
them
with
a
mercy
never
before
experienced
by
them
,
yea
moreover
when
the
Honourable
Lords
in
Parliament
after
a
gracious
hearing
of
their
defence
,
gave
them
hopes
of
future
favour
,
just
then
they
deserted
their
Loyalty
to
the
King
:
and
entred
into
a
combination
with
enemies
alwaies
implacable
to
themselves
,
and
at
a
time
when
those
Enemies
had
all
power
taken
from
them
.
This
would
be
a
complication
of
all
crimes
in
one
,
a
Treason
joyned
with
the
most
prodigious
ingratitude
,
most
scandalous
impiety
,
most
barbarous
inhumanity
,
and
most
brutish
stupidity
that
ever
was
.
8.
But
Mr.
Bagshaw
(
who
,
I
am
assured
,
does
not
suspect
us
,
nay
knowes
we
are
not
guilty
of
this
crime
)
calls
me
to
hear
his
Reasons
why
Papists
alone
should
be
ill-treated
:
and
I
obey
.
You
say
,
Sir
,
you
have
more
then
one
reason
which
does
difference
the
case
of
Papists
from
all
other
Sects
,
&c.
If
this
be
true
,
then
You
had
not
so
much
as
half
a
reason
to
wish
sincerely
that
the
penal
Statutes
should
be
taken
from
them
:
Nay
that
unlawful
wish
deserved
punishment
.
8.
Let
us
see
these
Your
evincing
reasons
.
One
is
,
say
You
,
their
depending
upon
and
owning
a
forraign
power
,
&c.
If
you
had
stopped
at
these
words
,
we
should
have
found
no
reply
.
For
we
confess
,
such
a
power
we
depend
upon
and
own
;
but
we
utterly
deny
that
that
should
put
us
in
a
worse
condition
then
others
.
For
if
that
Power
be
purely
spiritual
,
that
is
,
of
a
quite
different
nature
,
and
not
in
the
least
degree
prejudicial
to
the
Kings
Civil
Power
,
but
rather
obliging
those
that
acknowledg
it
,
faithfully
to
obey
the
King
,
the
owning
of
it
surely
ought
to
be
no
hindrance
to
a
Toleration
.
If
you
think
otherwise
,
then
I
must
tell
You
that
no
Sect
of
Christians
whatsoever
ought
to
be
tolerated
in
England
.
For
let
me
ask
You
(
who
ever
you
are
,
whether
Presbyterian
,
Independent
,
Anabaptist
,
Quaker
,
or
even
English
Protestant
)
Do
not
you
,
and
all
of
Your
perswasion
with
You
,
depend
upon
and
own
a
power
distinct
from
his
Majesties
Civil
power
,
I
mean
,
a
power
meerly
Spirituall
,
or
Pastoral
,
not
subordinate
to
the
Kings
,
but
to
which
the
King
himself
,
if
he
be
of
your
Religion
,
ought
to
be
subject
,
as
being
no
Pastour
,
but
a
Sheep
,
no
Teacher
,
but
a
Hearer
;
no
administrer
of
Sacraments
,
but
a
receiver
;
no
Excommunicatour
,
but
lyable
himself
,
as
all
Christs
flock
are
when
they
demerit
it
,
to
have
Ecclesiastical
censures
inflicted
on
him
?
Such
a
power
,
I
am
sure
,
you
all
acknowledge
:
And
no
other
power
do
Roman
Catholicks
depend
upon
or
own
.
Be
not
then
so
manifestly
,
so
affectedly
partial
,
as
to
alledge
that
to
the
prejudice
and
destruction
of
Roman
Catholicks
only
,
which
must
as
well
exclude
all
Christians
out
of
England
.
10.
But
it
is
a
forreign
power
,
You
say
,
that
Papists
depend
upon
and
own
,
and
this
word
Forreign
makes
the
difference
.
It
does
indeed
:
But
the
difference
is
,
I
suppose
,
much
to
the
advantage
both
of
the
King
and
Roman
Catholicks
too
.
For
tell
me
for
Gods
sake
since
there
is
indeed
a
spiritual
power
from
which
Princes
themselves
ought
not
to
be
exempted
,
nor
can
free
themselves
from
it
without
infinite
prejudice
to
their
own
souls
,
is
it
not
more
for
their
temporal
peace
and
security
that
this
Spiritual
power
should
reside
in
one
single
person
that
usually
is
both
learned
and
discreet
,
and
withal
is
a
thousand
miles
removed
from
our
King
,
then
in
many
thousands
within
his
own
Kingdom
,
not
all
of
them
Angels
,
that
if
they
have
a
mind
to
do
him
a
mischief
,
have
all
the
means
and
opportunities
imaginable
?
The
King
of
France
esteems
it
a
great
priviledge
granted
him
in
a
Concordate
by
the
Pope
,
that
no
particular
Bishop
should
have
power
in
any
case
to
excommunicate
him
:
this
power
being
reserved
by
the
Pope
alone
.
11.
Thefore
you
do
very
well
when
for
an
escape
to
your selves
You
add
,
but
very
ill
,
when
most
calumniously
to
us
You
add
,
That
Catholicks
depend
upon
and
own
such
a
power
which
according
to
the
opinion
of
their
teachers
12.
Imperet
tibi
Dominus
.
Here
the
world
sees
the
charity
of
a
Presbyterian
,
&c.
in
its
natural
colours
.
The
Christian
charity
so
divinely
commended
by
St.
Paul
has
these
qualities
,
Non
cogitat
malum
,
&c.
It
thinks
no
ill
:
It
does
not
rejoyce
in
iniquitie
,
but
rejoyces
13.
But
truly
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
You
have
made
choice
of
a
most
unseasonable
time
to
vomit
forth
these
most
spightful
untruthes
against
Catholicks
,
with
any
hope
they
should
be
believed
.
In
the
last
age
indeed
when
the
criminous
Writings
and
practises
of
four
or
five
Catholicks
of
one
peculiar
Order
had
justly
incensed
the
State
,
and
no
way
was
afforded
to
all
the
rest
publickly
to
defend
themselves
from
an
imputation
of
concurring
with
,
and
holding
the
wicked
principles
of
a
few
Traytours
,
such
a
bloody
accusation
as
this
might
perhaps
find
entrance
into
the
minds
of
some
few
unwary
persons
.
But
now
when
such
practises
and
principles
have
been
he
artily
disavowed
by
all
sorts
of
Catholicks
:
When
the
honourable
Catholick
Lords
,
have
in
the
name
of
the
whole
body
of
the
Catholicks
,
before
a
most
glorious
Tribunal
made
most
confident
protestations
of
an
Eternal
fidelity
to
the
King
,
and
of
renouncing
all
dependance
on
a
forreign
Authority
that
can
any
way
be
prejudicial
to
him
:
When
so
many
professions
have
been
printed
by
several
sorts
of
Catholicks
declaring
,
That
no
power
upon
earth
can
absolve
them
from
their
most
necessary
&
natural
Allegiance
,
nor
so
much
as
free
them
from
the
Obligation
of
any
Promise
or
Engagement
made
to
any
private
person
:
When
his
Majesty
himself
has
honoured
his
Catholick
subjects
with
such
a
confidence
in
their
Loyalty
and
sincerity
,
as
to
trust
his
life
into
their
hands
,
when
some
(
Mr.
Bagshaw
knows
who
)
sought
and
hunted
after
that
most
pretious
life
;
Lastly
when
for
the
space
of
twenty
years
a
fiery
tryall
has
passed
upon
the
fidelity
of
Catholicks
,
and
never
could
diminish
it
:
Now
,
I
say
,
after
all
this
to
hear
this
accusation
against
them
,
out
of
such
a
mouth
as
Mr.
Bagshaws
,
that
they
depend
on
a
Power
that
can
release
them
from
their
most
sacred
engagements
,
is
beyond
all
sufferance
.
What
name
can
be
found
out
worthily
to
express
such
a
shamelessness
in
a
Presbyterian
or
Independent
,
none
of
whose
party
ever
assisted
,
but
rather
used
all
their
power
and
skill
to
ruine
the
King
,
and
after
their
Indemnity
not
one
has
appeared
to
make
a
publick
promise
of
dealing
better
with
him
for
the
future
?
Who
can
with
patience
hear
such
an
one
,
tell
the
State
,
that
it
is
concerned
in
wisdom
and
policy
to
keep
Roman
Catholicks
under
,
whom
as
to
temporal
subjection
it
cannot
confide
in
,
when
as
not
any
one
of
them
disserved
the
state
,
but
many
thousands
have
lost
their
lives
,
and
far
more
(
almost
all
)
are
ruined
in
their
estates
for
their
fidelity
only
;
and
moreover
to
shew
that
this
Fidelity
was
a
Duty
of
their
Religion
,
have
and
ever
will
be
ready
to
give
all
security
of
peaceable
obedience
and
sincere
integrity
that
Words
or
Actions
can
confirme
?
What
can
You
expect
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
should
be
the
fruit
of
such
a
passage
as
this
in
a
Book
of
Yours
,
but
a
guilty
blushing
in
Your
own
party
,
indignation
in
loyal
Protestants
to
hear
such
as
You
become
accusers
in
such
a
cause
as
this
,
and
joy
in
Roman
Catholicks
,
to
see
that
none
have
of
late
taxed
them
as
persons
not
to
be
confided
in
,
but
such
old
confiding
men
,
as
after
oathes
of
Fidelity
have
taken
the
Covenant
and
Engagements
worse
then
that
,
and
but
for
an
Act
of
Oblivion
,
&c.
would
in
Westminster-Hall
hear
,
and
not
be
able
to
answer
a
far
heavier
accusation
then
this
?
14.
There
are
but
two
Oaths
by
the
State
accounted
tryals
of
an
English
subjects
fidelity
,
that
of
Supremacy
and
of
Allegiance
.
If
the
former
were
but
so
expressed
as
to
require
an
acknowledgement
of
a
Civil
Supremacy
in
his
Majesty
only
,
exclusively
to
the
Pope
:
And
if
the
unfortunate
word
,
Heretical
were
left
out
of
the
other
,
no
honest
Catholick
would
desire
to
be
allowed
the
priviledge
of
a
subject
if
he
refused
either
.
And
more
then
this
,
not
any
one
Protestant
,
Presbyterian
,
or
whosoever
he
be
that
freely
takes
them
,
can
intend
by
them
.
For
not
any
of
these
will
say
that
the
Catholick
Church
of
any
Age
has
defind
this
Assertion
to
be
Heretical
,
That
Princes
excommunicated
or
deprived
by
the
Pope
,
may
be
deposed
or
murdered
by
their
Subjects
:
It
being
an
assertion
they
never
dream'd
of
:
Neither
will
any
of
those
that
make
no
scruples
at
either
of
the
Oathes
,
allow
a
spirituall
power
,
much
less
a
Supremacy
in
that
power
to
the
King
.
So
that
it
is
evident
that
Catholicks
are
exposed
to
the
extremity
of
sufferings
for
not
taking
oaths
in
the
full
importance
of
whose
sence
they
agree
with
all
those
by
whom
they
are
persecuted
.
15.
But
truly
now
,
since
the
State
has
most
graciously
been
pleased
to
give
a
publick
hearing
to
the
Catholicks
,
speaking
by
the
Tongues
of
the
Catholick
Lords
,
&c.
who
have
against
all
possible
objections
maintained
the
innocence
of
our
Religion
in
the
point
of
Fidelity
:
And
since
it
has
been
a
general
asseveration
of
Magistrates
and
the
State
,
that
they
never
had
any
intention
to
take
away
any
mans
life
merely
for
his
Religion
and
conscience
,
as
long
as
he
was
free
from
practising
sedition
:
Me
thinks
hereafter
our
Justitiae
Sacerdotes
,
the
Reverend
Judges
should
find
a
great
difficulty
to
perswade
their
consciences
to
permit
their
tongues
to
pronounce
a
condemnation
,
as
for
treason
,
against
any
English
subject
,
meerly
for
having
a
scruple
in
an
Oath
to
bring
forth
the
word
Heretical
,
he
being
at
the
same
time
ready
to
acknowledge
,
as
due
to
the
King
,
all
the
authority
and
right
that
the
Judge
himself
does
,
when
he
condemns
him
for
a
traytour
.
16.
Therefore
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
if
You
would
perswade
the
State
that
it
cannot
confide
in
Catholicks
,
You
must
study
some
other
motives
:
For
we
heartily
renounce
the
acknowledgment
of
any
power
that
can
dispence
with
us
,
or
release
us
of
our
Engagements
to
his
Majesty
.
They
are
none
of
our
teachers
that
hold
such
opinions
.
And
what
Bellarmine
saies
,
That
the
sole
cause
why
the
Primitive
Christians
were
content
to
suffer
without
resistance
was
their
want
of
power
,
we
abhor
,
as
a
speech
blasphemous
to
the
Holy
Martyrs
,
and
scandalous
to
the
Church
.
Yet
let
me
tell
You
,
this
was
a
Doctrine
that
Bellarmine
might
have
learnt
from
Your
Fore-fathers
the
antient
Puritans
,
for
out
of
them
it
is
that
Archbishop
Bancroft
quotes
such
unchristian
sayings
and
words
,
as
this
for
one
,
Paul
commanding
us
to
be
subject
and
obedient
to
in
Dangerous
Positions
p.
17
Princes
,
did
write
this
in
the
infancie
of
the
Church
:
there
were
but
few
Christians
then
,
and
not
many
of
them
rich
,
or
of
ability
,
so
as
they
were
not
for
such
a
purpose
.
As
if
a
man
should
write
to
such
Christians
as
are
under
the
Turk
,
in
substance
poor
,
in
courage
feeble
,
in
strength
unarm'd
,
in
number
few
,
and
generally
subject
to
all
kind
of
injuries
,
would
he
not
write
as
Paul
did
?
So
as
the
Apostle
did
respect
the
men
he
wrote
unto
,
and
his
words
are
not
to
be
extended
to
the
body
or
people
of
a
Common
wealth
or
whole
City
.
For
imagine
that
Paul
were
now
alive
,
&c.
and
that
there
were
such
Kings
as
would
have
their
becks
stand
for
Laws
,
as
cared
neither
for
God
nor
man
,
&c.
what
would
he
write
of
such
to
the
Church
?
Surely
except
he
would
dessent
from
himself
,
he
would
say
,
that
he
accounteth
not
such
for
Magistrates
,
&c
,
he
would
leave
them
to
their
subjects
to
be
punished
,
&c.
17.
What
think
You
of
this
Mr.
Bagshaw
?
Yet
I
will
not
accuse
You
of
holding
the
same
.
Nay
more
,
though
I
can
demonstrate
tuat
there
's
not
a
Country
or
City
in
Christendom
into
which
Your
Sect
or
Religion
ever
entred
by
any
other
waies
but
sedition
and
Rebellion
,
witness
France
,
Geneva
,
Holland
,
several
States
in
Germany
,
Switzerland
,
Scotland
,
and
(
for
almost
twenty
Years
space
)
England
,
yet
if
You
would
renounce
that
abominable
principle
,
That
it
is
lawful
to
defend
Religion
by
arms
against
a
lawful
Prince
,
I
should
have
a
scruple
to
say
,
that
a
State
cannot
safely
or
warrantably
confide
in
you
,
as
You
have
most
unjustly
said
against
Roman
Catholicks
,
taking
advantage
from
one
or
two
Writers
generally
disallowed
by
us
,
though
You
can
not
name
any
one
City
or
Country
in
Christendom
into
which
Catholick
Religion
ever
entred
but
by
suffering
.
18.
Do
not
therefore
endeavour
to
make
all
Catholicks
answerable
for
the
wicked
assertions
of
a
few
Authors
,
when
you
know
they
have
been
condemned
by
whole
Kingdoms
.
You
have
eyes
sharp
enough
to
spy
even
in
the
Catholick
Church
our
sort
of
Presbyterians
and
Independents
,
Yea
even
Quakers
too
:
If
any
such
be
in
England
,
the
State
may
easily
convert
them
.
However
God
be
thanked
their
teachings
are
out
of
fashion
:
and
I
would
to
God
they
displeased
You
as
much
as
they
do
us
.
You
know
we
can
lay
to
your
charge
ten
seditious
Authours
for
one
:
and
which
is
mainly
(
indeed
,
only
)
considerable
,
You
are
not
able
to
produce
one
of
your
party
that
has
condemned
their
horribly
Rebellious
principles
.
And
as
to
the
point
of
defending
Religion
by
Arms
,
if
by
a
Reply
You
will
summon
me
to
produce
the
particular
passages
,
I
will
at
large
informe
You
,
that
during
the
reign
of
the
last
King
of
France
,
there
was
by
his
order
proposed
to
an
Assembly
of
Catholick
Bishops
this
Question
or
problem
,
If
it
were
supposed
that
the
King
of
France
became
Mahumetan
,
and
by
his
power
endeavoured
to
force
his
subjects
to
that
infidelity
,
Whether
they
might
lawfully
,
according
to
the
principles
of
Christianity
,
by
arms
against
their
Soveraign
resist
such
an
attempt
of
his
?
To
which
Question
the
unanimous
answer
of
the
Bishops
was
,
That
such
a
resistance
would
be
unlawful
:
since
Christian
Religion
allowed
no
other
way
of
maintaining
the
faith
against
lawful
Soveraigns
,
but
prayers
,
tears
and
suffering
.
When
will
England
be
so
happy
as
to
see
such
a
resolution
to
proceed
from
a
Synod
of
Presbyterians
,
&c.
It
would
be
some
comfort
to
see
but
one
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
publish
a
little
book
to
that
purpose
.
Never
certainly
was
there
a
more
seasonable
time
then
now
.
That
would
be
a
powerful
expedient
to
imprint
the
Act
of
Oblivion
in
the
very
hearts
of
all
English
subjects
:
And
till
some
such
thing
be
done
,
Quis
Caelum
terris
non
misceat
to
read
from
such
an
one
as
Mr.
Bagshaw's
pen
a
Lecture
of
Fidelity
to
the
King
,
and
a
warning
given
to
the
State
,
who
the
only
persons
are
not
fit
to
be
confided
in
?
19.
You
add
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
But
could
our
Papists
in
England
give
sufficient
evidence
of
their
hearty
disowning
such
an
irreligious
Tenet
,
yet
there
is
another
thing
,
Could
the
Papists
?
Why
,
have
they
not
?
Is
their
an
ear
in
England
that
can
perceive
sence
,
and
has
not
heard
what
a
profession
was
made
by
the
Catholick
Lords
in
the
House
of
Peers
?
Is
there
an
eye
that
can
read
,
and
has
not
seen
their
printed
Declarations
in
which
that
irreligious
Tenet
was
confidently
,
clearly
and
heartily
Disavowed
?
They
have
,
do
,
and
will
protest
,
that
if
they
be
not
ready
to
give
all
possible
security
of
disavowing
that
,
and
all
other
Principles
prejudicial
to
Authority
,
Justice
,
and
Peace
,
it
would
neither
be
prudence
in
his
Majesty
,
nor
a
just
care
of
his
Kingdomes
welfare
,
to
tolerate
them
among
his
Subjects
.
What
would
you
require
more
?
20.
If
You
think
,
or
however
,
if
You
be
resolved
to
say
,
though
You
do
not
think
so
,
that
we
lye
when
we
both
make
such
protestations
,
and
withall
offer
to
confirme
them
by
Oathes
,
You
will
put
us
into
some
puzzle
how
to
give
You
satisfaction
.
Yet
in
order
thereto
,
even
to
You
that
perhaps
are
unwilling
to
be
satisfied
,
we
tell
You
this
.
You
cannot
but
know
that
Catholick
Religion
utterly
forbids
all
lying
,
and
above
all
,
Perjury
.
If
therefore
You
will
judge
,
that
neither
the
Protestations
,
nor
Oaths
of
Catholicks
,
are
to
be
credited
,
you
will
condemn
the
State
of
want
of
prudence
in
contriving
Oathes
for
tryals
of
their
Fidelity
:
and
moreover
you
must
needs
esteem
us
the
most
impertident
Lyars
in
the
World
,
that
is
,
such
as
only
lye
when
it
is
for
our
disadvantage
.
If
we
durst
lye
,
we
would
much
rather
chuse
to
lye
by
taking
the
Oathes
in
the
formes
as
they
are
expressed
,
then
make
voluntary
false
protestations
of
the
same
duty
that
the
oaths
require
:
because
by
taking
the
Oathes
we
should
free
our selves
oftimes
from
the
loss
of
our
Estates
,
and
sometimes
of
our
lives
:
whereas
by
such
Voluntary
protestations
we
cannot
challenge
any
temporal
commodity
:
nay
perhaps
we
anger
those
,
that
take
it
worse
from
us
that
we
prove
our selves
good
subjects
,
then
they
would
,
if
we
had
been
ill
ones
.
This
is
all
I
can
at
present
say
to
such
a
scruple
.
If
this
satisfy
not
,
God
mend
those
that
are
in
fault
.
21.
Let
us
now
see
Your
second
reason
why
only
Papists
must
not
be
tolerated
though
they
were
never
so
good
subjects
.
That
You
deliver
in
these
words
.
There
is
another
thing
practised
by
22.
You
are
hard
put
to
it
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
to
find
reasons
to
kill
Roman
Catholicks
.
The
saying
is
Furor
arma
;
but
it
has
put
a
straw
into
Your
hands
,
to
wound
us
with
.
Yet
I
am
likewise
hard
put
to
it
too
,
how
to
defend
my self
against
even
such
a
weapon
:
that
is
,
how
to
discourse
upon
this
point
of
Images
with
one
that
professes
he
will
neither
accept
Fathers
,
Councels
,
nor
the
whole
Church
it self
for
an
Interpreter
of
Scriptures
,
or
Decider
of
Controversies
,
but
only
his
own
private
enlightned
reason
.
It
cannot
be
helped
therefore
:
Reason
alone
must
be
judge
between
us
:
You
will
needs
have
it
so
.
Let
reason
then
be
our
judge
,
but
upon
condition
that
You
will
not
call
that
reason
which
is
against
common
sence
.
22.
You
say
,
The
worshipping
of
Images
is
a
sin
repugnant
to
the
common
sence
and
reason
of
all
sober
men
:
so
that
your
common
sence
and
reason
concludes
,
that
there
is
not
a
Catholick
in
the
world
that
is
a
sober
man
,
and
not
devoid
of
common
sence
and
reason
:
and
by
consequence
,
all
France
,
Spain
,
Italy
,
Germany
,
Savoy
,
Greece
,
&c.
are
but
one
large
Bedlam
.
24.
Well
,
however
give
one
of
these
Bedlam
men
leave
to
propose
to
such
a
sober
man
as
you
are
,
that
is
all
compounded
of
Reason
,
some
few
Questions
,
First
,
then
suppose
there
were
represented
to
you
while
You
were
thinking
of
other
matters
,
or
talking
,
a
picture
of
our
Lord
hanging
on
the
Crosse
:
could
you
possibly
avoid
the
calling
to
mind
who
our
Lord
was
,
and
what
he
had
done
or
suffered
for
you
?
And
if
not
being
able
to
forbid
the
entrance
of
such
thoughts
into
your
mind
on
such
an
occasion
,
would
your
reason
dictate
to
you
that
you
had
done
ill
in
changing
your
thoughts
from
the
world
to
God
,
would
you
repent
of
it
,
asking
pardon
of
God
,
and
praying
that
such
a
tentation
might
never
befal
you
afterwards
?
Does
your
enlightned
reason
suggest
this
to
you
?
Truely
if
it
do
,
I
believe
you
are
of
a
temper
of
mind
almost
specifically
different
from
all
mankind
besides
,
and
must
change
their
nature
before
You
make
them
of
your
perswasion
,
or
Church
.
And
yours
is
not
a
common
sence
,
if
it
either
tell
You
that
by
Your
beating
down
Crosses
and
breaking
Church
windows
,
our
good
Countrymen
think
more
of
God
then
they
did
while
those
remembrances
were
standing
:
or
if
they
think
less
,
that
it
is
better
for
them
,
to
forget
him
.
25.
To
make
a
step
further
,
Let
it
be
supposed
that
at
the
same
time
You
saw
before
you
several
pictures
of
several
persons
in
quite
contrary
manner
regarded
by
you
,
as
of
St.
Peter
and
Judas
,
of
our
Late
Soveraign
and
Bradshaw
:
(
you
are
beholding
to
me
for
this
example
:
)
Or
put
case
you
had
in
one
hand
a
Bible
and
in
the
other
the
infamous
story
of
Pantagruel
:
does
not
your
common
sence
and
reason
tell
you
,
that
such
pictures
or
books
force
upon
your
mind
quite
contrary
thoughts
and
affections
,
the
which
regard
those
pictures
or
books
not
simply
considered
,
but
as
representing
such
persons
,
and
containing
such
matter
?
The
which
thoughts
being
just
,
and
not
at
all
harmful
to
you
,
and
withal
almost
impossible
to
be
avoyded
,
I
cannot
find
any
reason
why
reason
should
forbid
them
:
I
am
sure
common
sence
will
not
.
26.
If
then
it
be
according
to
reason
and
common
sence
,
and
likewise
unavoydable
to
admit
such
different
thoughts
:
will
not
reason
also
warrant
you
to
expresse
outwardly
by
words
or
actions
,
whatsoever
you
may
without
any
fault
think
inwardly
?
For
my
part
I
cannot
imagine
any
scruple
in
this
.
If
then
I
may
and
must
think
reverently
or
contemptuously
of
the
Objects
,
I
may
as
well
speak
,
or
behave
my self
externally
after
the
same
manner
to
them
respectively
;
For
whatsoever
is
ill
or
good
in
words
or
actions
,
is
so
likewise
in
thoughts
.
27.
Now
to
shew
that
such
thoughts
or
affections
regard
not
the
persons
only
but
the
pictures
also
as
representations
of
such
persons
,
ask
Your
own
heart
and
You
will
find
that
You
would
not
place
S.
Peters
picture
,
or
the
Kings
in
an
unclean
,
dishonest
place
.
If
any
one
should
spit
upon
either
of
them
,
your
heart
would
rise
against
him
,
and
tempt
you
to
strike
him
:
which
it
would
not
do
,
if
the
same
contemptuous
usage
were
shewed
to
the
picture
of
Judas
or
Bradshaw
.
Now
this
is
so
naturally
imbibed
in
the
hearts
of
all
mankind
,
that
in
all
Kings
Courts
a
respect
and
outward
mark
of
reverence
is
required
to
the
Chamber
of
presence
,
or
Chair
of
State
:
and
a
refusal
of
it
,
much
more
a
contemptuous
behaviour
,
would
be
criminal
.
To
apply
this
to
the
forementioned
Books
:
You
could
not
bring
your
reason
to
permit
You
to
tear
out
a
leafe
of
the
Bible
for
an
unclean
use
,
as
you
could
without
the
least
remorse
do
to
the
story
of
Pantagruel
or
Aesops
fables
.
28.
Let
us
now
consider
what
kind
of
respect
this
is
that
we
express
to
such
images
.
Comparing
the
images
of
Saint
Peter
and
our
Soveraigns
together
,
we
find
that
a
respectful
regard
is
had
to
both
,
and
a
contemptuous
usage
of
either
would
displease
us
:
Yet
it
is
not
the
same
kind
of
respect
:
For
St.
Peters
image
we
consider
as
of
a
man
that
puts
us
in
mind
of
heaven
and
heavenly
things
,
one
highly
favoured
by
Almighty
God
,
a
principal
Courtier
in
his
Kingdom
,
and
one
that
by
his
writings
and
example
has
been
a
great
instrument
of
promoting
our
eternal
happiness
.
We
do
not
so
esteem
of
every
good
King
.
Therefore
to
shew
the
difference
of
our
respect
to
each
,
we
would
choose
to
give
St.
Peters
picture
a
place
in
our
Oratory
,
and
the
Kings
in
our
Gallery
.
But
what
names
to
give
to
these
different
respects
is
not
easie
to
determine
.
It
is
plain
,
that
which
is
given
to
the
Kings
picture
is
purely
a
civil
respect
:
but
what
shall
we
call
that
which
is
given
to
St.
Peters
?
If
we
say
it
is
Religious
,
you
will
quarrel
,
as
derogating
from
God
.
Let
us
therefore
call
it
a
sacred
veneration
,
or
honour
:
For
since
all
things
that
are
appointed
on
purpose
to
mind
us
of
God
,
of
heaven
and
the
salvation
of
our
souls
,
we
call
them
sacred
,
this
name
may
well
be
applyed
to
such
a
picture
.
But
moreover
,
because
there
are
not
invented
such
variety
of
names
as
there
are
things
,
and
there
are
far
fewer
sorts
of
outward
postures
of
our
Bodies
denoting
respect
,
then
there
are
Names
or
Words
:
Hence
it
comes
to
pass
that
when
we
would
express
a
Civil
and
a
Sacred
,
yea
a
Religious
respect
,
we
are
forced
to
use
the
same
outward
behaviour
of
bowing
,
kneeling
,
&c.
to
Fathers
and
Magistrates
,
that
we
do
to
God
himself
:
Yea
we
find
in
the
Scripture
Kings
adored
,
and
a
prostration
of
bodies
paid
to
them
.
Yet
for
all
this
no
man
will
suspect
that
thereby
any
dishonour
was
intended
to
God
,
or
the
Honour
due
only
to
him
was
paid
to
creatures
.
29.
In
the
next
place
let
reason
and
common
sence
give
judgment
of
the
distinction
between
the
respect
that
may
be
paid
to
the
picture
of
St.
Peter
,
and
that
which
ought
to
be
paid
to
himself
in
case
he
appeared
to
us
glorified
as
he
is
.
A
Divine
respect
we
pay
to
neither
,
though
sometimes
we
use
such
postures
as
we
do
when
we
pray
,
or
worship
God
.
It
is
then
a
sacred
veneration
only
:
but
yet
there
are
some
expressions
of
respect
that
we
would
use
to
the
person
,
that
would
be
ridiculous
to
the
picture
,
as
reverently
to
speak
to
him
,
to
beg
his
prayers
to
God
for
us
,
to
ask
a
Question
,
&c.
30.
Our
last
Enquiry
shall
be
into
the
difference
of
regard
(
if
any
there
be
)
to
our
Saviours
picture
and
S.
Peters
,
the
former
representing
to
us
him
that
is
both
God
and
man
,
the
latter
,
meerly
man
.
However
we
shall
find
that
the
regard
to
both
the
pictures
is
of
the
same
species
and
nature
,
that
is
,
only
sacred
:
because
a
picture
we
never
look
upon
but
as
an
instrument
to
put
us
in
mind
,
or
to
call
to
our
memories
an
object
:
and
therefore
it
being
of
our
own
frameing
is
not
capable
of
any
respect
beyond
that
which
is
due
to
so
material
,
inferiour
a
thing
,
what
ever
the
object
represented
by
it
be
.
True
it
is
that
the
internal
affections
and
thoughts
occasionally
raised
in
our
minds
will
be
infinitely
different
,
for
we
shall
think
upon
Christ
with
Adoration
,
Love
,
Resignation
and
Obedience
due
to
God
only
:
not
so
of
St.
Peter
:
but
the
pictures
themselves
will
be
treated
by
us
as
sacred
pictures
only
,
that
deserve
a
respect
proportionable
:
And
since
it
is
evident
they
are
capable
of
a
sinful
disrespect
,
consequently
a
due
respect
may
be
paid
to
them
.
I
say
,
may
be
,
not
alwaies
ought
to
be
:
for
then
it
would
never
be
fit
to
put
on
ones
hat
,
&c.
in
a
room
where
there
hangs
a
crucifix
.
31.
To
summe
up
briefly
our
meaning
in
this
whole
matter
:
We
find
our
minds
too
apt
to
be
distracted
from
meditating
on
Divine
things
:
therefore
we
help
our selves
by
such
things
as
will
call
to
our
memories
,
and
fix
our
thoughts
upon
Objects
good
for
our
souls
to
be
thought
upon
:
Such
are
holy
pictures
both
in
times
of
prayer
and
out
,
we
find
this
benefit
by
them
.
Being
such
sacred
things
,
we
must
renounce
our
reason
,
if
we
deny
a
respect
may
be
due
to
them
:
but
by
honouring
with
an
outward
regard
a
picture
,
we
intend
only
to
give
a
testimony
what
respect
we
bear
to
the
person
or
holy
thing
represented
:
And
though
for
want
of
variety
of
postures
,
we
shew
some
part
of
the
same
outward
Reverence
to
the
pictures
of
St.
Peter
and
our
Lord
,
yet
that
signifies
,
we
only
venerate
St.
Peter
as
a
glorious
Saint
,
yet
a
creature
,
but
that
we
adore
Christ
as
God
:
And
no
man
that
sees
or
knows
us
can
think
otherwise
.
So
that
unless
it
be
a
sin
to
shew
outwardly
what
we
are
oblig'd
to
think
inwardly
,
there
is
not
the
least
fault
committed
.
32.
And
now
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
give
me
leave
to
acquaint
You
with
Your
mistakes
.
First
,
this
respect
called
by
the
Church
,
Honour
and
Veneration
,
which
We
affirme
may
be
paid
to
sacred
Images
,
you
call
Worshipping
of
Images
,
meerly
to
make
us
odious
to
your
ignorant
Proselytes
:
For
Worship
is
commonly
taken
to
be
that
Honour
which
is
due
only
to
God
,
and
which
we
abhor
to
give
to
Images
.
But
Secondly
,
you
give
it
another
name
more
abominable
,
calling
it
,
Idolatry
such
as
God
punished
in
the
worst
of
Pagans
.
Once
at
least
in
your
life
speak
your
conscience
:
Do
you
think
,
or
only
suspect
that
we
Roman
Catholicks
do
worship
false
Gods
,
and
true
Devils
?
Do
we
consider
our
Images
,
as
they
did
their
Idols
,
to
which
by
Magical
conjurations
they
annexed
an
evil
Spirit
to
do
wonders
,
and
to
extort
Divine
worship
from
the
seduced
people
?
Take
heed
Sir
how
you
persist
in
so
unjust
a
blasphemy
against
Gods
Church
:
A
time
will
come
that
You
will
be
called
to
a
strict
account
for
it
:
it
concerns
you
therefore
to
make
some
reparation
.
33.
But
after
all
this
,
take
notice
that
the
Catholick
Church
,
though
it
declare
that
such
a
veneration
may
fitly
be
given
to
Holy
Images
,
as
common
Reason
,
and
Humane
nature
cannot
choose
but
allow
:
Yet
it
commands
none
to
afford
them
but
even
so
much
.
You
may
be
a
Roman
Catholick
all
your
life
,
and
yet
never
be
obliged
to
performe
any
external
respect
to
an
Image
.
There
is
not
in
Catholick
countries
a
Groom
or
Kitchin-maid
so
ignorant
,
but
would
rather
burn
an
Image
,
then
afford
it
any
honour
due
to
God
only
.
And
shall
those
that
think
thus
,
and
do
only
what
humane
reason
generally
approves
and
cannot
hinder
,
be
esteemed
and
published
by
you
the
only
Christians
in
the
World
fit
to
be
thrust
out
of
all
Christian
Kingdomes
,
and
executed
as
traytours
,
though
otherwise
they
be
acknowledged
most
faithful
,
peaceable
men
and
obedient
Subjects
?
Are
you
not
afraid
of
,
In
quo
judicio
judicaveritis
judicabimini
?
34.
You
see
Sir
,
how
since
you
will
not
admit
of
Authorities
to
justify
the
Beliefe
and
Practice
of
Roman
Catholicks
,
but
only
common
sence
and
reason
,
I
have
complyed
with
you
:
And
now
in
one
word
tell
you
,
that
You
must
never
hope
to
make
any
sober
man
believe
that
Roman
Catholicks
are
Idolaters
,
or
even
faulty
in
the
matter
of
Images
,
till
You
can
demonstrate
,
1.
That
it
is
unlawful
to
make
use
of
our
Seeing
faculty
to
put
us
in
mind
of
God
.
2.
That
he
dishonours
the
King
that
shall
with
reverence
,
bareheaded
,
and
in
a
kneeling
posture
receive
a
Letter
or
Mandate
that
comes
from
him
.
3.
That
it
is
a
contempt
of
God
to
go
through
a
Church
with
ones
head
uncovered
.
4.
And
that
it
is
unlawful
,
and
irreligious
to
make
a
scruple
of
using
a
leaf
of
the
Bible
in
the
house
of
Office
.
35.
For
a
farewel
I
will
conclude
this
point
with
a
Story
,
the
truth
whereof
several
Gentlemen
,
Protestants
too
,
in
this
Town
are
able
to
justify
.
In
the
year
1651.
a
devout
Italian
Friar
being
appointed
to
preach
in
the
Great
Dome
at
Padua
,
the
Archbishop
present
,
and
having
been
informed
that
among
his
Auditors
there
were
some
English
Protestants
,
that
in
discourse
had
earnestly
objected
(
as
you
do
)
Idolatry
to
Catholicks
,
He
therefore
that
he
might
occur
to
such
a
scandal
,
made
choice
of
the
Doctrine
concerning
Images
for
the
subject
of
a
great
part
of
his
sermon
.
And
when
he
came
to
that
point
,
holding
in
his
hand
a
Crucifix
,
he
told
his
hearers
,
That
that
Image
did
in
one
glance
lively
represent
,
even
to
the
most
ignorant
beholder
,
our
Lord
Jesus
,
God
and
Man
,
and
almost
all
the
circumstances
of
his
most
bitter
and
accursed
death
so
patiently
and
willingly
suffered
for
us
.
Thereupon
with
great
passion
and
Rhetorick
he
magnified
the
Love
of
our
Lord
hanging
on
the
Cross
,
earnestly
pressing
his
hearers
to
return
a
proportionable
Love
and
Duty
to
him
.
And
during
this
discourse
,
he
often
with
great
reverence
and
tenderness
of
affection
embraced
and
devoutly
kissed
the
Crucifix
.
Having
said
much
to
this
purpose
,
after
a
little
pause
he
pursued
his
Discourse
,
telling
them
he
could
not
believe
or
suspect
,
that
any
one
that
had
heard
and
seen
what
he
had
said
and
done
,
could
reasonably
imagine
that
he
had
any
intention
to
dishonour
our
Lord
,
by
that
which
he
had
done
to
the
Crucifix
which
represented
him
,
much
less
that
he
adored
it
,
as
if
he
thought
it
a
kind
of
God
,
that
he
put
his
trust
in
it
,
as
expecting
any
good
from
it
,
as
if
(
he
knew
not
what
)
Divinity
,
Vertue
or
Sanctity
was
in
that
carved
piece
of
wood
.
Notwithstanding
because
he
had
heard
that
such
a
scandalous
imputation
was
by
some
misperswaded
persons
laid
on
the
Church
,
he
would
then
and
there
undeceive
them
.
Thereupon
he
spit
upon
the
Crucifix
,
threw
it
scornfully
to
the
ground
,
and
trampled
it
under
his
feet
.
36.
You
see
,
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
what
kind
of
Idolaters
the
Papists
are
.
Against
this
Idolatry
,
let
us
see
what
express
Scripture
you
can
produce
.
This
is
the
great
crime
,
for
which
there
can
be
no
expiation
but
oppressions
,
emprisonments
and
Gallowses
.
Now
if
what
hath
been
here
said
give
you
no
satisfaction
,
in
case
you
have
a
mind
to
reply
,
do
not
practice
your
old
way
of
snatching
a
phrase
or
expression
out
of
a
single
Authour
,
a
Schoolman
or
Controvertist
,
and
making
the
whole
Church
answerable
for
one
mans
indescretion
.
But
search
what
the
Church
her self
has
declared
in
the
Council
of
Trent
,
and
dispute
against
that
as
well
as
you
can
:
and
be
assured
you
shall
either
be
answered
,
or
else
told
that
you
are
unconquerable
.
IV.
That
Mr.
Bagshaw's
whole
Discourse
against
the
Churches
Infallibility
is
nothing
to
the
purpose
.
1.
HItherto
of
your
Preface
:
Now
I
come
to
your
book
:
which
truly
will
afford
very
little
businesse
.
And
in
grosse
concerning
your
grave
Discourse
I
must
tell
you
,
That
if
you
would
be
as
merciful
to
our
Estates
and
our
Lives
as
You
are
to
this
our
fundamental
Doctrine
,
we
should
find
You
a
a
very
commodious
Adversary
:
For
notwithstanding
all
your
blustring
You
have
not
given
this
Doctrine
one
blow
that
smarts
at
all
:
But
God
bless
us
from
Your
Swords
,
and
Your
Sermons
.
2.
The
Title
of
your
book
is
,
The
great
Question
about
the
Infallibility
of
the
Pope
and
Church
of
Rome
:
This
Question
you
undertake
to
determine
.
We
are
likely
to
have
good
stuff
in
a
Book
that
mistakes
the
subject
to
be
discoursed
on
.
You
should
not
have
said
,
The
great
Question
about
,
&c.
but
Two
Questions
,
the
one
a
great
one
,
about
the
Infallibility
of
the
Roman
Catholick
Church
:
which
if
it
be
disproved
,
destroys
the
foundation
of
that
Church
:
the
other
a
very
little
question
about
the
Popes
personal
infallibility
,
in
which
the
Church
it self
is
not
concerned
at
all
,
but
only
Cardinal
Bellarmine
,
and
a
few
Writers
zealous
for
that
Court.
And
when
you
had
said
this
,
in
all
reason
,
having
a
design
to
triumph
over
Roman
Catholicks
,
you
ought
not
to
have
said
a
word
about
this
little
,
trifling
,
unconcerning
Question
,
but
have
bent
all
your
forces
against
that
Great
one
which
was
only
to
the
purpose
.
3.
But
You
very
wisely
have
spent
your
whole
book
upon
it
only
,
though
a
subject
that
You
your self
in
your
Preface
confess
,
is
not
yet
decided
in
the
Schools
amongst
learned
men
,
which
is
as
much
as
to
say
,
no
Catholick
is
obliged
to
maintain
,
and
consequently
no
Protestant
needs
trouble
himself
about
it
:
Nay
moreover
you
say
the
two
Councils
of
Basil
and
Constance
,
and
(
in
your
Book
)
the
sixth
General
Council
have
(
vertually
)
decided
the
contrary
,
having
preferred
the
Authority
of
a
Council
above
the
Pope
,
which
therefore
may
reverse
his
decisions
,
and
actually
condemned
a
Pope
of
Heresie
:
you
might
have
added
the
seventh
and
eighth
General
Councils
which
ratifyed
the
same
condemnation
:
and
to
them
You
might
have
joyned
Pope
Agathon
the
successour
of
Pope
Honorius
,
that
was
condemned
,
and
his
Successours
Pope
Leo
the
second
and
the
rest
till
Pope
Adrian
the
second
,
who
lived
in
the
time
of
the
eighth
Council
▪
4.
Why
do
You
write
Books
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
so
confessedly
to
no
purpose
at
all
?
And
why
do
you
trouble
your self
about
a
subject
that
the
Authour
whom
you
pretend
to
confute
,
cannot
himself
believe
,
what
ever
opinion
or
suspition
he
may
have
of
it
?
For
no
Catholick
can
be
said
to
believe
any
thing
as
a
Christian
Verity
merely
upon
discourse
of
Reason
,
or
probable
deduction
from
Scripture
,
but
only
when
such
a
verity
appears
either
expressly
contained
in
the
Bible
,
or
is
formally
decided
by
a
General
Council
,
or
received
by
unquestionable
Tradition
of
the
Church
.
Now
it
is
apparent
,
even
out
of
Bellarmine
himself
,
that
none
of
these
wayes
the
Popes
Infallibility
has
been
confirmed
:
Nay
more
,
Never
yet
has
any
Pope
declared
that
himself
is
Infallible
.
But
you
are
wise
in
the
midst
of
folly
.
You
write
out
of
all
danger
of
being
confuted
,
because
no
body
thinks
himself
touched
:
so
that
you
have
an
easie
and
cheap
triumph
of
it
.
Notwithstanding
by
your
own
example
I
do
much
doubt
your
Honourable
patron
,
by
whose
command
,
You
say
,
You
wrote
,
finds
not
you
have
killed
the
Enemy
,
having
left
no
Argument
unanswered
:
since
evidently
you
have
mistaken
your
enemies
person
through
your
whole
book
,
excepting
only
the
two
last
leaves
,
where
obiter
,
and
in
answer
to
an
Objection
supposed
to
be
made
by
moderate
and
ingenuous
Papists
you
make
an
offer
to
speak
de
tribus
capellis
,
that
is
,
the
Pope's
being
infallible
,
not
in
himself
,
but
in
and
with
a
Councill
:
which
though
it
be
the
only
matter
in
question
,
you
call
only
a
Conceit
,
of
which
you
will
speak
a
little
,
and
you
keep
your
word
,
you
say
very
little
,
and
that
little
to
no
purpose
at
all
.
5.
Therefore
to
what
purpose
should
any
Catholick
set
pen
to
Paper
to
answer
you
,
since
if
you
be
never
so
evidently
confuted
,
you
are
excused
from
yielding
by
saying
you
have
said
a
very
little
,
but
could
have
said
more
:
and
Catholicks
are
forbidden
to
yield
,
since
they
have
a
world
of
proofs
to
demonstrat
,
the
Infallibility
of
the
Church
,
far
more
efficacious
then
these
one
or
two
Texts
of
Scripture
called
out
by
you
for
your
best
advantage
.
And
even
these
Texts
as
they
are
produced
and
made
use
of
by
Catholicks
are
unanswerable
,
especially
to
those
that
think
it
reasonable
to
admit
that
to
be
the
sence
of
Scripture
which
all
antiquity
has
given
,
which
all
protestants
and
all
reasonable
men
do
.
They
could
not
foresee
that
there
could
arise
a
Disputant
so
void
of
reason
,
as
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
to
whom
the
whole
consent
of
all
Ages
of
the
Church
,
all
Councils
and
Fathers
appeared
light
and
inconsiderable
,
if
compared
with
his
single
reason
.
Therefore
till
you
have
proved
that
Ground
demonstratively
,
that
is
,
turned
sand
into
a
Rock
,
you
are
not
in
a
capacity
either
to
object
or
answer
.
6.
And
to
the
end
you
may
set
upon
such
a
work
to
some
purpose
,
I
pray
please
to
enquire
out
a
Book
called
Exomologesis
,
or
Motives
of
the
Conversion
&c.
where
your
great
Lanista
Mr.
Chillingworths
reasons
for
such
a
position
are
pretended
to
be
answered
;
and
in
an
Appendix
to
that
Book
You
will
find
an
Examination
of
the
Fundamental
Grounds
of
my
Lord
Faulklands
Discourse
on
that
Subject
.
These
are
the
men
you
brag
of
in
Your
Preface
as
your
great
Patrons
,
that
is
indeed
,
such
Protestants
as
you
are
,
that
lay
such
grounds
as
utterly
demolish
the
whole
structure
of
the
English
church
,
denying
that
any
Authority
upon
Earth
can
oblige
any
man
.
And
this
very
thing
,
I
mean
,
the
destruction
of
the
Church
of
England
you
Nothing
can
be
more
unreasonable
For
that
would
be
to
take
the
Pope's
Chair
,
and
succeed
into
his
room
.
7.
This
therefore
having
been
by
your self
acknowledged
your
Design
,
I
must
repeat
what
I
have
already
said
:
That
the
English
Bishops
and
Clergy
are
far
more
interessed
in
your
Book
,
for
all
the
Title
be
only
against
Catholicks
,
then
Catholicks
are
.
But
as
to
this
horrible
position
of
Yours
,
which
utterly
destroys
all
Order
and
peace
:
Let
me
tell
You
that
to
particular
Churches
and
Church-Rulers
(
if
they
be
members
of
the
Catholick
Church
)
infallibility
is
not
at
all
necessary
to
make
their
Doctrines
or
Orders
obliging
even
in
conscience
:
Because
all
their
subjects
whilest
they
remain
so
,
are
bound
,
I
do
not
say
to
believe
internally
,
but
not
to
contradict
their
declared
Doctrines
,
and
to
submit
to
their
Orders
:
the
refusing
of
either
perhaps
not
damning
,
but
certainly
excluding
the
refusers
from
an
outward
communion
with
that
Church
.
So
that
here
you
plainly
,
exerto
Capite
,
tell
the
World
you
are
no
English
protestant
,
though
perhaps
you
would
fain
have
an
English
Benefice
,
and
preach
against
order
in
English
pulpits
.
8.
Now
as
for
that
Great
Question
of
the
Infallibility
of
the
Church
,
which
You
consider
only
as
the
conceit
of
some
few
Catholicks
,
if
You
have
a
mind
to
write
any
thing
to
the
purpose
,
to
prevent
Your
mistaking
(
if
that
be
a
possible
thing
)
give
a
well-wishing
friend
leave
to
informe
you
in
general
,
That
there
is
extant
no
formal
Decision
of
the
Church
touching
her
own
infallibility
:
Notwithstanding
all
Catholicks
are
bound
to
acknowledge
her
to
be
infallible
,
by
a
necessary
consequence
of
an
essential
Article
of
the
Creed
.
Which
consequence
You
may
conceive
to
be
thus
deduced
,
viz.
9.
First
,
it
is
an
Article
of
our
Creed
Credo
unam
Sanctam
Catholicam
&
Apostolicam
Ecclesiam
,
that
is
,
I
believe
one
(
and
but
One
)
holy
Catholick
and
Apostolick
Church
.
By
which
Article
sincerely
professed
,
the
person
,
declaring
himself
a
Christian
,
signifies
a
necessity
of
his
being
truly
a
member
in
Communion
with
that
One
Church
,
and
consequently
renounces
all
other
Congregations
,
and
all
Ecclesiastical
Communion
with
persons
divided
from
that
One
Church
.
10.
In
the
Second
Place
,
Your
only
Guide
,
common
sence
and
reason
tells
us
that
a
multitude
cannot
be
called
One
Society
,
except
they
be
joyned
and
linked
together
by
a
Government
and
Lawes
common
to
all
.
And
therefore
the
whole
Catholick
Church
,
being
indeed
one
Body
(
as
St.
Paul
sayes
)
and
one
General
Congregation
,
it
must
necessarily
have
both
general
Rulers
,
and
Common
lawes
universally
obliging
,
which
does
not
at
all
hinder
but
that
under
and
within
that
general
Congregation
there
may
be
many
distinct
Societies
enjoying
particular
Lawes
,
Priviledges
and
Rulers
,
upon
condition
they
do
not
contradict
,
nor
refuse
to
submit
to
the
said
general
Laws
,
Tribunals
and
Governours
.
11.
Thirdly
,
our
Lord
having
expressly
promised
to
preserve
and
continue
this
Church
,
as
one
Society
,
to
the
end
of
the
World
,
so
as
that
the
Gates
of
Hell
shall
never
prevail
against
it
:
it
followes
undeniably
,
that
he
has
provided
sufficient
and
efficacious
means
to
preserve
this
unity
:
for
otherwise
one
Article
of
the
Creed
might
happen
to
fail
.
12.
In
the
fourth
place
,
since
universal
Experience
both
in
Humane
and
Divine
matters
testifies
,
that
never
any
Writing
,
Law
,
or
Science
could
yet
be
so
expressed
,
but
that
being
left
to
the
wits
,
enlightned
Reason
,
and
interests
of
particular
men
to
descant
upon
them
,
there
would
follow
differences
of
sences
and
interpretations
,
and
consequently
Divisions
and
separated
interests
destructive
to
unity
:
to
provide
against
which
the
only
possible
remedy
hath
alwaies
been
acknowledged
to
be
the
constituting
of
an
External
lasting
Authority
of
Judges
and
Magistrates
.
Hence
it
is
,
that
the
Supreme
Tribunal
of
a
General
Council
has
evermore
hitherto
been
confessed
by
all
Christians
to
be
the
only
preservative
against
a
breach
in
the
universal
Church
:
and
because
it
cannot
alwaies
be
possible
to
summon
such
an
Assembly
,
therefore
by
way
of
provision
the
supreme
Pastour
of
the
Church
hath
alwaies
exercised
,
in
matters
that
concern
the
common
Faith
,
and
Discipline
,
an
Authority
,
if
not
to
decide
,
at
least
to
compose
and
silence
all
differences
in
Opinions
,
&c.
and
to
put
in
Execution
the
Ordinances
of
precedent
Councils
.
13.
Now
if
You
will
discourse
to
any
purpose
in
opposition
to
this
(
as
I
know
You
have
a
great
Tooth
against
it
)
You
must
either
demonstrate
that
there
is
no
need
at
all
that
controversies
should
be
composed
and
Schismes
healed
:
Or
if
You
cannot
do
this
,
You
must
contradict
the
Experience
of
all
mankind
,
by
shewing
that
Judges
are
not
necessary
to
end
Law-suites
,
that
writings
alone
with
enlightned
reason
will
do
the
business
:
and
especially
that
above
all
Lawes
and
Sciences
,
the
Holy
Scriptures
that
are
in
some
places
infinitely
obscure
,
and
in
plain
places
compiled
in
a
popular
stile
,
far
from
that
studied
exactness
of
Lawes
and
Sciences
,
are
most
proper
to
have
their
sence
agreed
in
.
This
must
be
your
task
,
and
to
make
it
good
,
it
will
be
expected
that
You
should
do
one
miracle
more
,
which
is
,
to
produce
but
one
Example
during
sixteen
hundred
years
and
upwards
,
taking
in
the
Apostles
times
,
if
You
please
,
to
shew
that
differences
in
Religion
have
been
prevented
or
composed
,
and
separations
of
divided
Churches
re-united
by
disputing
out
of
Scriptures
alone
,
without
submission
to
a
common
Tribunal
.
On
the
contrary
side
we
Catholicks
will
be
obliged
to
shew
you
that
all
Heresies
hitherto
appearing
have
been
so
far
destroyed
by
General
Councils
,
that
the
Church
has
been
preserved
in
Unity
,
and
we
are
confident
will
be
so
for
ever
,
notwithstanding
even
so
formidable
an
Adversaries
opposition
,
as
you
are
.
14.
In
the
fifth
place
,
This
great
Tribunal
of
a
General
Council
is
of
an
Authority
so
authentick
,
that
no
Appeal
from
it
must
be
admitted
.
Yea
moreover
it
has
influence
not
on
the
outward
actions
or
professions
only
,
but
even
the
judgments
and
hearts
of
all
particular
Catholick
persons
and
Churches
.
This
appears
not
only
by
the
universal
agreement
of
all
Fathers
and
Ecclesiastical
Writers
past
and
present
,
but
by
the
solemn
stile
of
the
Decrees
made
by
all
such
Councils
,
in
which
Anathema's
have
been
denounced
against
all
Hereticks
and
Schismaticks
,
and
they
separated
from
the
Mystical
Body
of
Christ
,
to
which
alone
Salvation
is
promised
.
15.
In
the
last
place
therefore
,
the
Church
being
one
,
and
to
keep
it
so
,
Authority
having
been
communicated
to
it
by
our
Lord
,
which
Authority
for
that
purpose
must
needs
under
penalty
of
an
Eternal
separation
from
Christ
oblige
all
Christians
to
submit
even
their
minds
to
it
,
it
seems
to
us
that
it
followes
necessarily
and
inevitably
,
that
the
Church
is
infallible
:
Unless
we
would
say
,
that
our
Lord
has
commanded
us
to
hear
such
a
Church
and
Guide
as
might
lead
us
to
Hell
.
To
prevent
all
suspicion
of
which
he
has
expresly
promised
to
lead
(
not
the
Apostles
only
,
as
you
fancy
,
but
)
his
Church
into
all
Truth
,
with
whom
he
said
he
would
be
present
to
the
end
of
the
world
,
thousands
of
years
after
the
Apostles
were
dead
.
16.
These
you
may
suppose
,
Mr.
Bag.
to
be
the
true
grounds
of
the
Churches
Infallibility
.
It
is
Infallible
because
it
is
One
,
but
,
it
is
such
an
One
from
which
as
Separation
is
damnable
.
So
that
if
you
,
a
Presbyterian
,
or
Independent
,
&c.
have
a
minde
to
assault
these
grounds
;
then
1.
You
must
first
destroy
that
Article
of
our
Creed
,
I
believe
one
Catholick
Church
.
2.
Next
you
must
prove
out
of
express
Scripture
not
only
that
Scripture
is
our
only
Rule
,
but
that
we
have
no
other
Guide
to
find
out
the
sence
of
it
but
only
our
private
reason
or
spirit
:
and
what
these
joyn'd
together
conclude
upon
,
will
infallibly
serve
our
turn
,
whether
it
be
true
or
false
.
3.
That
all
the
Antient
Church
and
all
Protestants
too
are
mistaken
when
they
say
that
Schism
,
(
to
you
the
most
innocent
thing
in
the
World
)
is
a
Sin
,
a
great
exterminating
sin
,
for
which
there
cannot
possibly
be
a
just
cause
,
or
sufficient
excuse
.
4.
Lastly
,
you
must
have
the
confidence
befitting
a
Presbyterian
to
say
,
that
all
Christians
before
you
have
been
poor
spirited
sheepish
,
deceived
people
,
that
knew
not
what
the
Liberty
of
a
Subject
was
:
and
that
all
General
Councils
that
presumed
to
denounce
Anathema's
against
the
private
spirit
or
enlightned
reason
,
have
been
most
abhorred
conspiracies
of
Tyrants
over
Mens
souls
.
17.
Whereas
if
you
were
an
English
Protestant
truly
so
called
,
(
but
the
very
supposition
is
unsufferable
,
and
therefore
must
be
changed
,
therefore
I
say
)
whereas
a
true
English
Protestant
would
protest
his
readiness
to
submit
both
his
tongue
and
soul
to
a
lawful
General
Council
,
and
consequently
would
have
no
quarrel
against
the
Infallibility
of
the
Universal
Church
:
He
would
admit
Tradition
to
be
the
best
Interpreter
of
Scripture
:
Only
his
Controversiehumour
would
spend
it self
against
the
Roman
Churches
pretention
to
the
Title
of
Catholick
,
and
would
maintain
that
the
English
State
and
Clergy
had
authority
enough
to
reform
themselves
without
consulting
the
Roman
,
or
any
other
Churches
:
Indeed
if
the
Eastern
Church
had
still
been
in
Union
with
the
Roman
the
case
then
would
be
altered
.
The
English
Church
on
such
a
supposition
would
have
had
a
scruple
to
oppose
both
.
18.
Therefore
since
it
is
not
in
our
power
to
oblige
the
Turk
to
permit
the
Eastern
Bishops
to
meet
in
a
General
Council
with
the
West
:
for
English
Protestants
sake
(
not
yours
,
good
Mr.
Bagshaw
)
I
will
take
upon
me
a
little
more
then
your
Book
can
require
from
me
,
and
that
is
to
propose
in
the
mean
time
a
convenient
mean
and
expedient
towards
the
removing
this
scruple
:
and
that
is
as
followeth
.
19.
Since
we
cannot
have
speaking
Judges
that
will
please
them
,
they
may
,
I
suppose
,
do
well
to
help
themselves
with
Books
:
and
for
that
purpose
pitch
upon
some
well
known
time
in
which
the
Eastern
and
Western
Churches
were
united
,
and
out
of
the
Books
and
Monuments
of
that
Age
impartially
collect
the
Doctrines
then
taught
,
and
the
Church-government
then
in
use
through
the
whole
Church
:
For
thereby
it
will
evidently
appear
whether
of
the
Churches
,
Eastern
or
Western
that
now
differ
in
both
,
have
deserted
that
which
was
anciently
in
both
.
20.
Now
I
conceive
a
more
proper
time
for
this
purpose
cannot
be
imagined
then
the
Age
of
the
Church
in
St.
Gregory
the
great
's
time
when
England
was
converted
from
Paganisme
by
St.
Augustin
the
Monk
sent
by
him
.
For
it
is
evident
that
the
whole
Church
was
then
in
perfect
Union
:
the
same
Doctrines
were
taught
,
and
the
same
Government
and
Common
laws
in
use
all
the
Christian
World
over
.
Besides
,
there
are
extant
more
,
better
and
clearer
Monuments
both
of
the
Doctrines
and
Discipline
of
that
Age
then
in
any
other
:
and
especially
in
St.
Gregories
Epistles
sent
into
all
quarters
of
the
World
,
and
in
other
of
his
works
translated
into
the
Greek
tongue
,
and
freely
embraced
,
yea
admired
by
the
Greek
Church
,
we
may
find
what
Authority
so
learned
and
Holy
a
Pope
exercised
over
other
Churches
according
to
the
then
received
Ecclesiastical
Canons
.
Moreover
besides
S.
Gregories
Works
,
our
own
Country
both
by
wtitings
of
learned
men
,
Councils
of
Bishops
,
and
visible
Marks
in
the
foundation
of
Churches
and
Monasteries
,
will
most
abundantly
furnish
us
.
21.
Now
when
we
have
found
what
in
that
age
was
the
Belief
and
practise
of
the
whole
Church
uniformly
:
Then
we
are
to
confront
thereto
the
Doctrines
and
Discipline
of
the
present
Eastern
and
Western
Churches
:
Being
assured
that
both
of
them
have
not
deserted
the
Antient
Belief
and
practise
:
because
if
it
were
so
,
there
would
not
now
be
extant
any
Orthodox
Church
at
all
:
and
consequently
our
Saviours
promise
of
leading
his
Church
into
all
Truth
would
have
failed
.
21.
Now
when
it
shall
appear
unto
us
whether
of
these
two
great
Churches
hath
preserved
the
Antient
faith
and
Discipline
,
we
shall
necessarily
be
obliged
to
a
Communion
with
that
Church
:
because
a
separation
from
it
will
be
a
manifest
Apostacy
and
Schism
from
the
most
certainly
one
,
true
,
Catholick
Church
,
and
consequently
from
Christ
himself
.
22.
Now
that
the
present
Roman
Church
does
at
this
day
profess
the
very
same
Doctrines
,
and
is
governed
by
the
same
Laws
,
that
were
in
force
in
St.
Gregories
dayes
,
will
as
seems
to
us
evidently
appear
both
from
his
Writings
,
the
Ecelesiastical
Writers
since
,
and
the
Antient
English
Councils
:
as
likewise
by
the
acknowledgment
of
several
learned
Protestants
.
To
this
purpose
Doctor
Humphreys
in
par.
2.
rat.
5.
p.
5.
&
627.
writes
thus
,
In
Ecclesiam
verò
quid
invexerunt
Gregorius
&
Augustinus
?
Onus
ceraemoniarum
,
&c.
that
is
.
But
now
what
have
Gregory
and
Austin
brought
into
the
Church
?
A
burden
of
Ceremonies
,
&c.
the
Archiepiscopal
Pall
to
be
used
at
Solemn
Mass
,
Purgatory
,
&c.
the
Oblation
of
the
Holy
Host
and
prayers
for
the
Dead
,
&c.
Relicks
,
&c.
Transubstantiation
,
&c.
new
Consecrations
of
Churches
,
&c.
To
these
particulars
Carion
a
Chronologist
the
publick
Rite
of
Invocation
of
Saints
,
a
false
perswasion
concerning
a
Monastical
profession
,
works
devised
without
any
precept
of
God
,
satisfactions
,
vowes
,
&c.
And
whereas
(
saith
he
)
Gregory
himself
did
tragically
declaim
,
and
profess
his
abhorring
the
Title
of
Universal
Bishop
,
yet
in
reality
he
declared
that
himself
did
vehemently
desire
the
thing
signified
by
that
Title
,
since
he
took
upon
him
a
commanding
power
over
other
Churches
.
To
these
may
be
added
the
Centuriators
of
Magdeburg
,
Bale
,
&c.
who
mention
these
and
other
particular
Doctrines
,
as
Novelties
introduced
by
St.
Gregory
.
23.
Hence
if
our
Adversaries
speak
truth
it
will
evidently
follow
,
that
since
there
are
now
differences
between
the
Eastern
and
Western
Churches
,
all
the
alterations
and
innovations
have
been
made
by
the
Greek
Church
only
.
24.
Do
you
not
now
see
,
Mr
,
Bagshaw
,
what
Religion
that
is
,
the
professours
whereof
you
,
as
far
as
your
vote
extends
,
expose
to
the
Butchery
?
whence
is
apparent
,
that
if
you
had
been
a
leader
of
a
party
able
to
execute
your
cruel
intentions
in
S.
Gregories
dayes
,
you
would
like
a
very
Antichrist
,
have
laid
wast
the
whole
Church
of
Christ
,
and
murdred
all
that
were
called
by
his
name
.
There
wants
only
this
to
crown
your
zeal
,
that
you
should
cry
out
,
Their
blood
be
upon
us
and
upon
our
children
.
Thus
would
you
have
treated
S.
Augustin
and
his
fellow
Monks
,
you
I
say
,
that
the
less
Charity
you
have
,
esteem
your selves
the
more
perfect
Christians
and
Saints
,
you
would
have
condemn'd
to
Gallowses
,
quartering
of
members
,
and
burning
of
bowels
those
innocent
persons
that
exposed
themselves
to
all
incommodities
for
the
salvation
of
our
Country
:
when
as
our
Pagan
Ancestors
,
though
Slaves
of
Devils
,
yet
treated
them
with
all
humanity
.
Take
heed
they
do
not
rise
in
judgment
against
you
:
I
am
sure
in
that
great
Judgment
you
shall
not
rise
to
condemn
them
for
this
sin
.
1.
THus
Sir
,
I
have
performed
as
much
as
I
promised
in
the
beginning
:
and
truly
I
promised
more
then
your
Book
deserved
:
In
which
I
found
so
very
small
a
proportion
of
Reason
employed
,
that
I
may
perhaps
incur
censure
for
mispending
time
about
a
Discourse
that
would
not
indanger
the
misleading
of
any
.
I
must
therefore
plainly
tell
the
Reader
that
it
was
only
your
passion
,
Your
cruelly
malicious
suggestions
that
I
intended
to
oppose
:
That
is
your
proper
Engin
to
do
mischief
with
,
to
prevent
which
,
a
Christian
compassion
to
thousands
of
innocent
,
peaceable
souls
whose
destruction
your
passion
designes
,
does
require
all
honest
mens
endeavours
and
care
.
You
acknowledge
enlightned
reason
for
your
only
Principle
:
but
I
find
that
which
You
call
by
such
a
name
to
be
nothing
else
but
a
restless
fancy
,
swelling
with
self
opinion
,
and
inflamed
with
almost
all
sorts
of
inordinate
passions
,
sharpned
against
all
moderate
persons
,
both
Protestants
and
Catholicks
,
that
is
,
against
all
that
have
any
sence
of
Duty
to
the
King
,
or
love
of
peace
among
Christians
.
2.
Now
as
among
Protestants
You
thought
fit
to
single
out
only
two
,
Doctour
Gunning
and
Mr.
Thorndike
,
through
whose
sides
You
would
wound
all
that
are
not
as
furious
against
peace
as
your self
:
So
among
Catholicks
likewise
there
are
two
,
my
Lord
the
Earle
of
Earle
of
Bristow
.
Fiat
Lux
Bristow
,
and
the
Authour
of
Fiat
Lux
,
against
whom
you
have
thrust
forth
a
forked
sting
armed
with
poyson
enough
,
but
wanting
strength
to
make
that
poyson
enter
.
I
hope
his
Lordship
will
pardon
a
stranger
,
yet
an
admirer
of
his
most
eminent
abilities
and
vertues
,
for
taking
notice
without
order
from
him
,
of
your
malicious
reflexions
upon
him
,
which
might
be
prejudicial
to
his
Honour
,
were
it
not
that
it
comes
from
a
person
that
I
am
assured
he
will
never
dignify
with
answering
.
3.
You
reckon
his
Lordship
in
the
Catalogue
of
those
who
have
shewed
the
vanity
and
uselessness
of
Allegations
(
say
you
)
it
is
possible
that
the
example
of
that
Honourable
Person
may
be
urged
against
me
,
since
his
present
practise
doth
contradict
his
former
principles
,
I
will
only
add
this
,
that
since
his
book
is
not
yet
answered
by
himself
,
I
hope
he
thinks
it
unanswerable
,
and
will
not
long
continue
in
communion
with
that
Church
,
whose
foundations
he
hath
so
well
overthrown
.
An
Admirable
passage
this
is
,
fit
for
no
pen
but
Mr.
Bagshaws
.
4.
That
his
Lordship
has
not
yet
publish'd
an
Answer
to
a
Writing
of
his
own
,
sufficiently
confuted
by
his
practise
,
I
should
rather
think
you
might
have
imputed
to
such
as
your self
.
These
are
not
times
for
any
of
his
Lordships
present
perswasion
in
matters
of
Religion
to
multiply
unnecessary
controversies
of
that
Nature
.
And
however
,
your self
and
your
party
afford
such
as
his
Lordship
is
business
enough
to
exercise
all
their
abilities
prudence
and
skill
,
in
opposing
your
secret
workings
and
open
calumnies
,
by
demonstrating
that
a
change
in
his
perswasion
about
points
of
faith
doth
make
no
change
at
all
in
his
Fidelity
.
And
thus
much
his
Lordship
(
in
the
name
of
all
Catholicks
)
to
your
great
grief
has
performed
with
that
sincerity
,
candour
and
energy
,
that
I
am
confident
there
is
not
a
Protestant
that
shall
read
your
infamous
aspersions
cast
upon
Catholick
Religion
,
touching
the
matter
of
Loyalty
,
but
will
look
upon
them
as
the
last
effects
of
the
desperate
rage
of
one
that
takes
pleasure
in
mere
calumniating
,
without
any
expectation
to
be
believ'd
.
5.
And
truly
,
Sir
,
if
you
had
taken
to
task
the
making
the
World
believe
that
in
your
Sect
Christian
Charity
is
esteemed
a
mortal
sin
,
you
could
not
have
better
effected
your
design
then
by
saying
,
as
you
have
done
,
I
hope
his
Lordship
thinks
his
Book
unanswerable
,
&c.
For
shame
change
this
phrase
,
I
hope
,
&c.
It
would
have
been
an
impudence
not
to
be
pardon'd
had
you
only
said
I
fear
,
or
I
suspect
this
:
But
sure
there
is
not
any
Christian
,
except
Mr.
Bagshaw
whose
Religion
would
allow
him
to
say
,
I
hope
his
Lordship
thinks
his
Book
unanswerable
:
that
is
in
effect
,
I
hope
in
God
that
his
Lordship
is
both
an
Atheistical
Hypocrite
,
professing
a
Religion
contrary
to
his
conscience
,
and
withall
that
his
Hypocrisie
,
against
the
nature
of
that
sin
,
is
sencelesly
void
of
all
worldly
pretentions
,
since
he
counterfeits
a
Religion
that
he
knowes
is
ruinous
to
his
fortunes
.
Is
this
your
Theological
vertue
of
Hope
?
Truly
it
becomes
you
well
:
Your
Faith
,
Hope
and
Charity
I
see
are
all
of
a
piece
.
6.
It
may
be
you
knew
some
Great
Men
that
for
some
ends
you
could
permit
to
strain
their
consciences
so
far
as
to
profess
a
Religion
that
themselves
are
able
to
confute
.
But
sure
they
will
be
no
losers
by
it
:
whatever
becomes
of
ther
souls
,
care
shall
be
taken
that
their
worldly
Estate
shall
thrive
by
it
:
They
will
declare
for
a
Sect
where
money
abounds
,
and
where
power
and
Offices
may
be
shared
:
That
is
,
of
all
Religions
in
England
they
will
take
heed
of
the
Catholick
.
7.
Indeed
if
you
understood
what
Catholick
Religion
is
,
you
would
never
say
so
much
,
as
I
suspect
,
&c.
and
if
you
knew
what
Christian
Religion
is
you
would
never
have
said
I
hope
such
an
abominable
,
so
unreasonable
a
thing
.
In
your
Sect
I
conceive
such
an
Hypocrisie
may
be
practised
at
a
cheaper
rate
.
But
in
Catholick
Religion
no
Man
can
commit
that
sin
alone
:
it
must
necessarily
be
attended
with
most
horrible
sacriledge
and
a
solemn
profanation
of
two
Sacraments
,
Pennance
and
the
Holy
Eucharist
.
Therefore
I
hope
that
you
have
been
bold
to
bely
your self
when
you
said
,
I
hope
his
Lordship
thinks
his
Book
unanswerable
.
I
have
a
better
opinion
of
you
,
then
you
desire
I
should
.
8.
As
for
the
Author
of
Fiat
Lux
complained
Blasphemies
that
you
(
good
man
)
tremble
to
mention
:
If
you
had
sincerely
related
those
passages
,
and
were
they
considered
not
as
standing
alone
,
but
with
the
dependance
on
what
is
delivered
before
,
they
will
be
so
far
from
deserving
to
be
called
Blasphemies
,
that
no
sober
charitable
Reader
will
deny
them
to
be
simple
unstrain'd
Truths
.
And
if
you
think
good
to
reply
to
these
papers
I
here
undertake
to
justifie
those
passages
in
the
proper
true
sence
that
the
Author
apparently
meant
them
.
Which
that
it
is
no
hard
matter
to
do
I
will
shew
you
presently
:
His
first
passage
related
by
you
is
this
:
In
my
judgment
(
saith
he
)
Christ
our
Lord
hath
no
less
shewn
his
Divinity
and
power
in
the
Pope
,
then
in
himself
.
And
all
things
considered
,
I
may
truly
say
,
that
Christ
in
the
Pope
and
Church
is
more
miraculous
,
then
in
his
own
person
.
My
reason
to
demonstrate
the
truth
of
this
(
which
is
the
Authors
too
(
is
this
,
because
the
preservation
of
the
Church
in
Unity
and
Truth
under
the
Government
of
supream
Pastours
,
without
interruption
for
sixteen
hundred
years
and
more
amongst
so
many
tryals
and
oppositions
,
is
a
greater
effect
of
a
Divine
power
in
Christ
,
then
he
shew'd
in
prolonging
his
own
personal
life
for
about
thirty
three
years
.
9.
And
as
to
the
second
passage
,
viz.
That
the
first
great
Fundamental
of
Christian
Religion
,
which
is
the
truth
and
Divinity
of
Christ
,
had
it
not
been
for
the
Pope
,
had
failed
long
ago
in
the
World
.
So
that
I
may
truly
say
,
that
Christ
is
the
Popes
God
:
For
if
the
Pope
had
not
been
,
or
had
not
been
so
vigilant
a
Pastor
as
he
is
,
Christ
had
not
been
taken
now
for
any
such
person
as
he
is
believed
this
day
.
Consult
your
books
,
and
the
whole
Series
of
Ecclesiastical
Story
will
inform
you
that
the
Pope
by
means
of
Councels
of
the
Western
Church
assembled
by
his
Authority
was
he
alone
that
instrumentally
destroy'd
Arianisme
and
other
Heresies
denying
the
Divinity
of
Christ
,
which
for
some
ages
had
in
a
manner
poyson'd
all
the
East
.
10.
And
lastly
without
much
boasting
I
may
with
him
conclude
.
This
I
may
boldly
say
,
and
am
assured
of
,
that
if
the
Pope
be
not
an
unerring
Guide
in
affairs
of
Religion
,
that
way
I
mean
that
I
have
shewn
him
in
all
ages
to
have
exercised
his
Guidance
[
by
General
Councils
,
]
all
is
lost
.
For
this
is
no
other
then
what
with
all
Catholicks
I
have
asserted
and
will
positively
justifie
,
that
the
authority
of
the
Church
in
her
supream
Tribunals
is
the
only
assured
means
of
preserving
the
Church
in
Unity
,
as
being
an
Authority
from
which
no
Appeals
must
be
admitted
,
that
is
,
being
Infallible
.
These
therefore
,
you
see
,
are
no
such
Blasphemies
as
to
put
you
into
a
fit
of
trembling
.
11.
I
do
now
expect
,
Sir
,
unless
God
inspire
more
charity
into
your
heart
,
that
you
will
make
loud
complaints
of
the
presumption
of
your
Roman
Catholick
adversary
,
for
daring
to
defend
his
Religion
against
your
evident
mistakes
,
and
the
cause
of
all
his
profession
from
the
trayterous
imputation
of
a
Dependence
on
a
forreign
authority
,
most
unjustly
by
you
laid
to
their
charge
:
like
the
ancient
Gladiatour
,
you
will
accuse
us
for
avoyding
your
blows
and
thrusts
,
and
because
we
do
not
recipere
totum
gladium
.
But
this
Confidence
is
the
effect
of
our
Innocence
only
,
which
as
the
Scripture
says
,
Gives
the
boldnesse
of
a
lyon
.
Nay
,
it
is
for
your
sake
,
if
you
please
;
however
it
is
for
our
Countreys
sake
,
that
we
beg
no
more
innocent
blood
may
be
laid
to
its
charge
.
But
if
it
must
still
be
spilt
,
we
had
rather
you
should
be
our
Executioners
,
than
any
other
.
We
give
Almighty
God
,
and
the
Parliament
most
humble
thanks
,
that
we
have
been
permitted
to
wipe
off
the
scandal
of
Infidelity
from
our
Religion
:
This
we
triumph
in
.
Hereafter
if
we
suffer
,
we
call
God
to
witness
,
and
the
whole
Kingdom
(
I
mean
English
Protestants
)
that
it
will
be
purely
our
Conscience
,
our
Religion
,
our
love
of
Peace
and
Unity
that
we
suffer
for
;
for
all
manner
of
security
we
have
,
and
ever
will
give
of
being
faithfull
,
quiet
,
good
Subjects
:
all
Oaths
expressing
only
our
obligation
to
Fidelity
,
or
acknowledgment
of
the
Kings
temporal
Supreamacy
we
will
take
.
Does
it
not
become
then
such
Sufferers
to
be
confident
?
Does
it
not
become
such
lovers
of
their
Countrey
to
wish
that
no
more
guilt
may
lye
upon
it
?
True
it
is
,
we
look
upon
your
party
as
our
Murderers
,
you
give
us
up
into
their
hands
,
you
kill
us
with
their
swords
.
They
are
inclin'd
to
mercy
,
being
satisfyed
of
our
Innocency
:
but
you
threaten
to
set
the
Kingdom
on
fire
,
with
your
crying
out
Popery
,
if
they
spare
us
.
We
do
not
expect
from
his
Majesty
,
that
for
our
sakes
(
though
his
most
loyal
Subjects
)
he
should
take
upon
himself
the
envy
that
you
would
raise
against
him
.
We
beseech
him
he
would
not
:
indeed
he
ought
not
to
do
it
,
considering
the
mischief
that
may
follow
,
is
publick
,
and
threatning
the
whole
Kingdom
.
But
the
generality
of
Protestants
,
me
thinks
,
have
little
reason
to
fear
your
clamours
,
when
they
extend
mercy
to
innocent
persons
.
And
therefore
those
that
by
their
Offices
have
an
influence
upon
our
Lawes
,
and
are
able
to
abate
the
sharpness
of
them
,
yea
have
thought
fit
to
take
it
into
consideration
,
if
they
,
either
out
of
complyance
,
or
fear
of
You
,
forbear
to
do
what
Civil
Justice
,
and
much
more
,
Christian
Charity
,
requires
,
they
must
not
expect
that
God
will
hold
them
innocent
:
It
will
be
a
great
mercy
if
he
punisheth
them
in
this
world
,
either
in
their
estates
persons
or
families
.
12.
You
know
the
Gospel
Story
:
I
would
to
God
You
would
make
better
use
of
it
:
The
Jewish
Priests
and
Pharisees
accused
our
Saviour
of
seditious
doctrine
:
and
for
that
delivered
him
into
the
hands
of
the
Romans
.
What
did
they
lay
to
his
charge
?
Art
thou
a
King
?
said
Pilate
,
that
was
his
charge
:
He
assumes
(
said
they
)
a
power
contrary
to
Caesars
.
Our
Saviour
acknowledges
that
he
was
a
King
:
that
he
challenged
a
Supremacy
of
power
:
and
that
he
came
to
constitute
a
new
Kingdom
upon
earth
:
but
it
was
a
Kingdom
not
of
this
world
:
it
was
a
power
purely
spiritual
,
so
far
from
being
prejudicial
to
Caesar
,
that
one
of
the
fundamentall
Lawes
of
this
spiritual
Kingdom
was
,
That
whatsoever
belonged
to
Caesar
should
be
given
to
him
:
not
one
dram
of
Civil
authority
should
be
taken
from
him
.
The
Romans
were
satisfied
with
his
answer
:
Pilate
protested
him
innocent
.
But
all
little
purpose
,
for
the
Pharisees
make
clamours
,
they
stir
the
people
to
sedition
;
they
threaten
Pilate
:
and
the
Text
sayes
,
the
clamours
of
the
Pharisees
and
people
so
wholly
prevailed
,
that
our
Saviour
was
delivered
up
unto
their
will
,
to
do
unto
him
even
what
they
pleased
.
All
that
Pilate
durst
to
do
was
to
wash
his
hands
,
and
proclaim
the
violence
used
upon
him
:
but
however
he
judged
him
to
death
,
and
the
Romans
crucified
him
.
Now
not
any
man
will
acquit
Pilate
,
though
a
greater
damnation
be
due
to
the
Pharisees
.
Pilates
crime
was
heynous
,
but
it
was
humane
,
he
would
fain
have
done
justice
,
but
he
feared
a
sedition
,
he
had
not
the
courage
to
suffer
for
Justice
.
But
the
Pharisees
crime
was
Diabolical
,
and
as
they
behaved
themselves
by
crying
out
,
His
blood
be
on
us
and
our
Children
,
it
became
unpardonable
:
both
the
temporal
and
eternal
destruction
of
the
whole
nation
was
the
reward
of
it
.
But
now
consider
who
these
Priests
and
Pharisees
were
that
accused
our
Saviour
of
seditious
Doctrine
against
Caesar
.
They
were
the
only
Enemies
that
Caesar
had
in
the
whole
Nation
:
Josephus
will
tell
us
that
the
principles
of
their
Sect
were
treason
and
Rebellion
:
They
only
of
all
the
Jews
refused
an
Oath
of
Allegiance
.
If
our
Saviour
would
have
incited
his
followers
to
cast
off
Caesars
yoke
,
they
would
have
joyned
with
him
,
and
have
made
him
either
their
King
or
Protectour
.
They
had
attempted
several
insurrections
against
Caesar
,
and
within
a
few
years
after
put
the
whole
State
into
an
open
bloody
Rebellion
,
which
ended
in
their
utter
destruction
.
Yet
such
power
had
these
mens
malicious
suggestions
as
to
make
our
Saviour
be
condemned
as
a
Traytour
:
His
Disciples
therefore
must
not
think
to
be
bettter
used
then
their
Master
,
I
mean
by
Pharisees
.
13.
I
suppose
Mr.
Bagshaw
,
here
is
enough
said
to
your
Stating
of
that
great
Question
of
Infallibility
,
as
you
have
stated
it
:
And
more
then
You
will
think
enough
,
to
Your
cruelty
against
Roman
Catholicks
.
If
you
have
any
suspition
that
we
have
not
expressed
our
mindes
clearly
and
satisfactorily
enough
;
Upon
any
exceptions
You
will
please
to
make
,
more
shall
be
said
.
And
as
touching
what
hath
been
here
delivered
about
disowning
a
forreign
power
prejudicial
to
the
State
,
do
not
read
it
as
the
assertion
of
one
single
Roman
Catholick
:
But
be
assured
that
if
ever
these
papers
be
offered
to
Your
eyes
to
be
read
,
You
will
read
that
which
has
been
approved
,
and
will
be
justifyed
by
many
Worthy
Persons
of
the
same
Religion
,
persons
of
Learning
,
Vertue
and
Authority
,
who
therefore
can
know
,
and
will
be
answerable
for
the
conformable
judgments
of
far
greater
numbers
that
depend
on
their
Direction
respectively
.
14.
My
desire
now
is
,
that
you
would
write
no
more
against
any
Catholick
Truth
,
or
Christian
peace
.
But
if
You
cannot
for
Your
life
hold
,
then
I
would
,
as
a
friend
,
advise
you
to
get
before
hand
a
right
notion
and
understanding
of
the
subject
you
would
write
upon
:
and
however
,
that
You
would
forbear
laying
false
crimes
to
the
charge
of
Your
brethren
:
The
condition
of
Roman
Catholicks
is
sad
enough
:
And
truly
it
is
most
unhandsome
for
those
that
are
in
a
State
of
Uniformity
with
them
,
to
add
to
their
sufferings
.
To
conclude
,
if
you
think
me
worthy
to
be
your
Adversary
in
a
Pen-quarrell
,
let
us
not
dispute
about
things
in
which
You
have
no
skill
,
or
that
will
not
be
profitable
,
but
rather
wound
blessed
Christian
Charity
.
And
if
you
will
permit
me
to
propose
a
subject
in
which
you
and
your
party
are
believed
to
have
much
interest
,
and
which
if
well
debated
,
would
bring
much
good
to
thousands
of
souls
in
these
Kingdomes
,
my
desire
is
it
may
be
this
Problem
or
Question
(
which
I
told
you
has
been
taken
into
consideration
in
France
,
viz.
)
Whether
Christian
Subjects
may
by
their
Religion
be
allowed
to
defend
by
Armes
against
their
Soveraign
and
lawful
Authority
their
Opinions
and
Doctrines
,
in
case
these
be
persecuted
by
them
.
For
my
own
part
I
make
choice
of
the
Negative
.
And
now
I
resigne
you
to
the
mercy
of
Mr.
L'Estrange
.
FINIS
.